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Eisenbahn Vigorosa (Weizenbock) - Cervejaria Sudbrack Ltda

Eisenbahn Vigorosa (Weizenbock)Eisenbahn Vigorosa (Weizenbock)

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97 Ratings
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Ratings: 97
Reviews: 88
rAvg: 3.71
pDev: 14.02%


Brewed by:
Cervejaria Sudbrack Ltda visit their website
Brazil

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: soper2000 on 08-30-2005)
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dwren89

Virginia

4.04/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: dark brown with medium brown highlights, no head (probably from elevated ABV), murky from wheat malt

Aroma: definite banana and clove nose, but much greater malty sweetness on the nose than a weizen or even a dunkelweizen, dark fruit, hint of fig, very slight nutty character as well, pungent aroma overall, with some noticeable alcoholic strength in the nose

Taste: Banana and clove-like yeast character hits first but then is immersed in a dark fruity sweetness than lasts through the finish. There is an obvious wheat character to the taste, as well as weizen yeast, but otherwise it drinks just like a doppelbock. Dark, strong, and malty with no noticable hop character, it is lightened in flavor by the weizen yeast and smoothed by the wheat malt. No strong alcohol flavors.

Mouthfeel: Smooth and wheaty, slight graininess, moderate carbonation, full bodied with a long finish.

Overall Impression: A good malt bomb that has some interesting wheat and weizen yeast character to make it unique. Flavors of a doppelbock married to a weizen, this beer sports an 8.0% ABV that, to its credit, you feel but don't taste.

Serving type: bottle

06-30-2013 20:35:12 | More by dwren89
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eduardolinhalis

Switzerland

3.98/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

355ml bottle served in an ordinary glass.

A: Pours an dark amber color forming a medium creamy yellow head. Medium retention and some lacings

S: Banana bread as expected. Toffee. Wheat. Fruity. Spicy

T: Banana, wheat, dark fruits. Toffee, caramel malts. Cinnamon. Overall mild sweet taste. Grainy. End is light bitter hops

M: Smooth medium body. A bit molasses. Medium carbonation

O: Easy drinking beer despite the 8% ABV. Well done Weizenbock. Another good surprise from Eisenbahn

Serving type: bottle

08-19-2012 17:57:42 | More by eduardolinhalis
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Ryan011235

Ohio

2.25/5  rDev -39.4%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Poured into an E&J Cask & Cream glass on 5/14/12

Batch 04

The appearance is something of a cloudy, muddled brown. A two finger head crowned with a layer of loose bubbles dissipates after a few minutes. No retention or lace.

The aroma has a distinctly tangy wheat snappiness. There is a hint of dustiness and yeast, too. Underneath the wheat are notes of raisins, figs, bread, caramel, cocoa, dark cherry and suggestions of leather. Faint overtones of alcohol heat.

The flavor starts off with promise - deep wheat and bread flavors mix with more subtle representations of the complexities of the nose. However, the flavors tank quickly, leaving a finish that is wrought with oxidation and old paper. The less than pleasing flavors of the latter half linger far too long.

The feel is on the thin side of medium overall, devolving in tandem with the flavor profile. Carbonation is on the lower side, which is nice.

While there are a few good things about this beer to enjoy, it ultimately falls short for me. It's drinkable enough and I find it mellows over time. Not terrible.

Serving type: bottle

05-22-2012 04:14:06 | More by Ryan011235
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StJamesGate

New York

4.05/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Glowing chestnut, active bubbles and tight creamy taupe head that fades and leaves the odd white trail. Banana creme, rye dough and wax on the nose.
Ryvita, more banana, milk chocolate and maraschino with clove and cinnamon to end.
Mango milkshake end and slight tingly linger - dies a bit. Medium, very creamy and smooth, bit of heat.

Some big spice balanced by very soft body. Not deep, but goes down dangerously easy for the strength. Don't get much actual wheat character, but still a solid weizenbock.

Serving type: bottle

10-05-2011 22:18:30 | More by StJamesGate
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woosterbill

Connecticut

3.83/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle into a Weyerbacher tulip. Thanks to Ernie for busting out this crazy beer at a tasting.

A: Clear persimmon body with a half-finger of fine tan foam that settles into a ring. Not bad at all.

S: Rich, intense aroma of cooked bananas, complete with butter + cinnamon. I like it.

T: More cooked banana goodness. Pure, straight banana + brown sugar sweetness. It's no Aventinus, but it's pretty darn good.

M: Smooth medium body with low carbonation.

D: The sweetness + stickiness don't take too much away from the tastiness. Ok.

Notes: Avoid this beer if you'd rather your Weizenbock be something other than a banana-bomb, but if that sounds appetizing this is a great one to seek out. Extremely flavorful and, to me, extremely enjoyable. Not a masterpiece of brewing by any stretch, but quite an unexpected treat.

Cheers!

Serving type: bottle

02-21-2011 02:39:49 | More by woosterbill
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atigerlife

Hawaii

3.15/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a dark brown with a 1 finger creamy brown head. Good retention.

Aroma of malt and light wheat.

Taste is sweet, wheat, woody and cloves. Also get some type of rubber taste going on.

Mouthfeel is slighly cleansing, medium bodied. Rather dull on the tongue.

Overall, drinkable, but not too exciting.

Serving type: bottle

01-29-2011 03:11:43 | More by atigerlife
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ForWhatAlesYou

Minnesota

3.28/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle poured into a pint glass

A: Head fades almost immediately. Dark with lots of brown and amber tones. Pours and looks like a glass of Diet Dr. Pepper

S: Caramel, banana, sweet bread dough.

T:Tastes of wheat and toasted corn. Caramel, cola. High alcohol is noticeable but balance nicely with the sweet agave syrup flavor.

M: Carbonation fades quickly on the palate into a noticeable light syrup viscosity. Sits well on the tongue and cheeks.

D: Good but I can't shake the similarity to diet soda. Hmmmm....not sure what to think of this.

Serving type: bottle

12-20-2010 01:14:36 | More by ForWhatAlesYou
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megahurts4

Louisiana

3.1/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Eisenbahn Vigorosa

Appearance: dark amber, very small head, and a little lacing.

Smell: caramel thick, some spices, and banana.

Taste: banana, roasted malts, and some spice.

Mouthfeel: medium-light.

Overall:
It is fairly thin and faintly watery. It initially comes off as a thicker triple, but that is not the case.

Serving type: bottle

12-05-2010 06:46:44 | More by megahurts4
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Halcyondays

California

3.6/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

335 mL bottle, thanks Jon,

A: Pours a deep brown with a medium off-white head, solid retention, no lace.

S: Banana bread, definite plum and Concord grape jelly.

T: Cloves come to the forefront a lot more than in the nose. Some dark malt, lots of dark fruit - spiced plums, mission figs and raisins.

M: Medium-bodied, fairly boozy, prickly carbonation.

D: A good weizenbock, not super complex or estery, but it's a solid effort.

Serving type: bottle

10-28-2010 02:42:49 | More by Halcyondays
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BedetheVenerable

Missouri

2.65/5  rDev -28.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Presentation: 12oz brown screw cap; no date that I saw

Appearance: Mahogany beer capped by a dark ivory cap. A strong pour produces a nice 2 finger head, but this fades way too quickly to a patchy film and ring.

Smell: Lots of sticky dark fruit (I'm getting dried figs and raisins) as well as some dark brown sugar and a hint of fruity alcohol. Pretty nice overall.

Taste: Unfortunately the flavors don't match the aromas. While there is a really nice, almost burnt toffee characteristic here, the attractive dark fruit aromas are not mirrored in the flavor profile. Hint of earthiness, and a lot (especially for an 8% beer) of fruity alcohol. Too much, IMO.

Mouthfeel: The booziness comes together with a thinner than usual mouthfeel to make this really pretty lackluster.

Drinkability: I dunno if I'm going to get through this one...

Conclusion: Back to the drawing board with this one I'm afraid.

Serving type: bottle

10-16-2010 06:02:17 | More by BedetheVenerable
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Tone

Missouri

3.7/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a clear, dark brown color. 1/4 inch head of an off-white color. Slight retention and poor lacing. Smells of sweet malt, dark citrus, yeast, slight alcohol, and hint of wheat. Fits the style of a Weizenbock. Mouth feel is smooth and clean, with an average carbonation level. Tastes of alcohol, sweet malt, slight dark citrus, and yeast. Overall, lacking in body, but good blend and aroma.

Serving type: bottle

08-03-2010 15:11:30 | More by Tone
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laituegonflable

Australia

3.5/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a rich umber colour, beautifully cloudy and bronze up to the light. Head is pretty pleasant, dense and beige, sinking steadily, lace left is disappointingly thin actually, but yeah, the nice head makes up for it.

Nose is tasty, malty and sweet for the most part, with a pleasant caramel aroma and a hint of brownness - like toastiness but not quite dark and bitter enough for that, just slight sourness. Hints of raisin and cinnamon on there as well and a mild citric hop character. Very pleasant aromatic nose, sweet and fresh.

Taste is considerably more sour, has a fair amount of citrus zest on the front that descends into a slight milkiness on the mid where the malt rises to join it. A hint of vinegar on the mid before it gets mildly toasty again, with some notes of toasted grain and pine nuts, plus light citric hop notes. Quite tangy on the finish actually but really, overall it seems a bit weak, never quite reaches 'full' flavour, could be sweeter, darker or hoppier and lacks classic weizen esters really.

Fairly good body though, seems a bit light for the dryness it produces on the finish, but not bad.

Weak doesn't equal offensive. It needs a bit more balance, like more malt on the front but it's not a bad drop.

Serving type: bottle

06-04-2010 03:50:00 | More by laituegonflable
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lacqueredmouse

Australia

4.05/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a thick and cloudy deep brown amber colour, with some bubbling head when provoked, but otherwise just a film of off-white bubbling. The thickness and the opaqueness of the body are very nice.

Big sweet weizen notes. More than a hint of banana, some sweet caramel and even a slight hint of booze. Very smooth, rich and very much like a weizenbock should be. Absolutely lovely.

Mouthfeel is surprisingly thin, which is noticeable right from the start - a shame, and unexpected given the apparent thickness in the body. Taste is smooth, lacking a little of the rich and heavy sweetness I was expecting, but with some really pleasant light boozy phenols and a round deep weizen flavour.

A really good weizenbock. One of the best non-German examples I've had. Eisenbahn again show their skills in producing fine examples of classic styles.

Serving type: bottle

06-02-2010 08:36:19 | More by lacqueredmouse
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zeff80

Missouri

3.08/5  rDev -17%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

A - Poured out a dark garnet color with a one-finger, thin, tan head. It left little to no lace on the glass.

S - It smelled a little boozy and malty with just a touch of wheat aroma.

T - Taste was not much different from the aroma. Boozy, malty and not much wheat.

M - It was fairly crisp and smooth. A medium bodied beer.

D - Weizenbock? More like a dopplebock. I got very little wheat flavors.

Serving type: bottle

04-23-2010 02:25:55 | More by zeff80
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EgadBananas

Louisiana

3.73/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I hastily poured this without getting all any of the sediment, so I will have to do a follow up with the yum-yum's.

It's dark, with ruby highlights throughout the edges. Off white head, and no lacing really.

Smells spicy sweet. Rich in malts with a bit of caramel sweetness.

Taste is similar, yet there is definitely a little alcohol kick in the finish. I don't see a whole lot of the wheat in this...the dopplebock characteristics may over power that naturally.

Light-medium body, easy on the carbonation and smooth on the finish.

This is a not too, yet not under complex brew that can be enjoyed over and over.

This is a Brazilian beer, but brewed in one of the most heavily German influenced states, it carries so much of the
German style of beer, as you can plainly notice in the name and city it's brewed. Culture done well; on both sides of the playing field.

Serving type: bottle

04-23-2010 01:44:03 | More by EgadBananas
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daledeee

Iowa

4/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I just stumbled on this today and wondered what a Brazilian doppelbock would taste like.

It pours with a decent head that left nice lace as I drank it. The head was light tan and the beer itself was dark brown but you can see a little light if you hold it up to the light.

Nose is malty, syrupy and caramel

Taste is very malty with some caramel. It is not overly sweet like some others and not that spicy. I would have given it a higher mark if it was a little spicier. The beer seems to mellow a bit as it sits in the glass. I did not hurry!

Mouth feel is good with medium carbonation and not overly sticky.

This beer is very easy to drink and a very good example of the style.

Serving type: bottle

01-28-2010 00:35:21 | More by daledeee
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brdc

Wisconsin

3.5/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Had this one multiple times in Brazil, quite fresh as expected. It seems as though it is a better beer than we get here, although nothing spectacular.

Golden brown, tan head, but just average retention, minimal lacing.
Nose, just like the palate, is predominantly malty and sweetish, with bread, nuts, oats, vanilla and even a banana hint. Light bodied.
Nice, but as mentioned, nothing spectacular, but well worthwhile if you happen to have one fresh in hands.

Serving type: bottle

01-06-2010 18:39:00 | More by brdc
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DoubleJ

California

4.35/5  rDev +17.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I don´t know what `vigarosa´ means in Portuguese, but I had this weizenbock earlier tonight with my friend here in Brazil. 355 ml twist-off, on to the beer:

It´s a dark brown colored beer, almost nlike leather, topped by a large head that continues to say large and leaves lots of attractive lacing. Lots of banana bread in the nose. The nose is nicely spiced as well. A strong tasting beer, but the alcohol is hidden perfecty. Theré is a lot of banana, a touch of clove, topped with more banana bread. Goes down extremely easy for it´s size.

In short, an outstanding weizenbock. I don´t know how fresh it is in the states, but in Brazil, it is exceptional!

Serving type: bottle

12-07-2009 02:52:20 | More by DoubleJ
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Windigstadt

Illinois

3.55/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours a cloudy chestnut hue with a decent offwhite head, though it dissipated somewhat quickly for a wheat beer.

S: Wow, that's quite the aroma. We're talking beyond malty... it's like every kind of sugar mixed together, plus a little lemon too. I'm also picking up a hint of banana, but none of the phenols I would expect from a Weizen.

T: This is a very sweet beer, though it's more crystal malt sweetness (think brown sugar) than Munich malt sweetness (think sweet bread). Hardly any clove or banana. Hops are virtually non-existent, with an alcoholic dryness keeping the beer from being intolerably sweet.

M: While I would expect a heavy, thick mouthfeel, this beer is actually rather thin and alcoholic.

D: The thinness makes this rather drinkable for an 8% beer.

Overall: This isn't a bad beer, but certainly isn't what I would like in a Weizenbock. It's rather one-dimensional and thin. I don't want to come off as a style Nazi, but I expect more bready complexity and stone fruit, and more esters and phenols, from a Weizenbock.

Serving type: bottle

10-31-2009 03:11:07 | More by Windigstadt
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brentk56

North Carolina

3.88/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a dark amber color with a modest head that leaves a few dribs and drabs of lace

Smell: Fruity, with banana, plum and clove dominant, with caramel beneath

Taste: Fruity, up front, with the banana, green apple and plum favors joined, at mid-palate, by white pepper and clove spice; after the swallow, the sweeter fruit flavors dominate with a spice cake character in the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with prickly carbonation

Drinkability: The is batch 03 so I am guessing it has been a slow mover but I found that the age allowed the heat to settle down and bring the flavors to the front; rather enjoyable

Serving type: bottle

09-14-2009 00:06:53 | More by brentk56
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armock

New York

4/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Poured a dark brown color with a tan head that leaves lacing behind

S - Is good and of roasted malt chocolate and bananas

T - Very good follows the nose well

M - This beer has a thinner body with lighter carbonation

D - Better then I expected after tasting the SAPA first overall I thinks its pretty good and to style worth trying sometime

Serving type: bottle

09-02-2009 03:49:00 | More by armock
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ADZA

Australia

3.7/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

The bottle i have is different to this one but its still the same ABV and style so prob just some new labeling,the beer pours a murky brown honeyish colour with average carbonation that leaves a fast vanishing one finger head,it has aromas of sweet sticky date pudding and some alcohol laced candy,it has an average mouthfeel and the palette is flooded with tastes of fruitcake and xmas pudding not bad,not a beer i could drink all night but not bad.

Serving type: bottle

08-14-2009 12:43:44 | More by ADZA
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wisrarebeer

Wisconsin

2.2/5  rDev -40.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

A: nice, clean light brown color
S: a bit of clove and banana but too sweet
T: alcohol presence noticeable, some clove/banana but very cloying
M: doesn't dance on the tongue like traditional weiss biers, too sweet
D: needs liveliness, and too sweet

disappointing overall

Serving type: bottle

07-29-2009 21:51:30 | More by wisrarebeer
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GRG1313

California

3/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a dark red with a very short, thin white head.

Banana bread/pineapple nose with underlying candy sugar and malt and a nose finish of bubblegum. Pleasant and undertones of toffee and carmel in the nose.

Medium light body of banana and malt. A bit thin in the mouth and short in character and finish. Hints of "sweet" malt and banana is primary character with light carbonation.

Short sweet malt finish.

Pleasant but nothing special.

Serving type: bottle

07-18-2009 00:22:46 | More by GRG1313
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scoobybrew

Indiana

3.8/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This was poured from the bottle into a weizen glass.

A - deep amber color with a thick head that settles quite a bit but is otherwise well retained

S - faint bubble-gum yeast-like notes, some roasted grain scents

T - rich, smooth, sweet malt with a touch of roasted grain; some yeast esters present; alcoholic strength is noted

M - smooth creamy medium-full body with moderate carbonation

D - This is a decent weizenbock. I'm perhaps not enjoying it at the right time of year, but it's tasty nonetheless. I have rarely been disappointed by this brewery.

Serving type: bottle

05-06-2009 00:24:14 | More by scoobybrew
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Eisenbahn Vigorosa (Weizenbock) from Cervejaria Sudbrack Ltda
84 out of 100 based on 97 ratings.