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Eisenbahn Vigorosa (Weizenbock) - Cervejaria Sudbrack Ltda

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Reviews: 90
Hads: 105
Avg: 3.71
pDev: 14.56%
Wants: 5
Gots: 4 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: soper2000 on 08-30-2005

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Reviews: 90 | Hads: 105
Photo of wisrarebeer
2.22/5  rDev -40.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

A: nice, clean light brown color
S: a bit of clove and banana but too sweet
T: alcohol presence noticeable, some clove/banana but very cloying
M: doesn't dance on the tongue like traditional weiss biers, too sweet
D: needs liveliness, and too sweet

disappointing overall

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Photo of Ryan011235
2.27/5  rDev -38.8%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Poured into an E&J Cask & Cream glass on 5/14/12

Batch 04

The appearance is something of a cloudy, muddled brown. A two finger head crowned with a layer of loose bubbles dissipates after a few minutes. No retention or lace.

The aroma has a distinctly tangy wheat snappiness. There is a hint of dustiness and yeast, too. Underneath the wheat are notes of raisins, figs, bread, caramel, cocoa, dark cherry and suggestions of leather. Faint overtones of alcohol heat.

The flavor starts off with promise - deep wheat and bread flavors mix with more subtle representations of the complexities of the nose. However, the flavors tank quickly, leaving a finish that is wrought with oxidation and old paper. The less than pleasing flavors of the latter half linger far too long.

The feel is on the thin side of medium overall, devolving in tandem with the flavor profile. Carbonation is on the lower side, which is nice.

While there are a few good things about this beer to enjoy, it ultimately falls short for me. It's drinkable enough and I find it mellows over time. Not terrible.

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Photo of RoyalT
2.48/5  rDev -33.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Appearance – The beer here is a murky, dark brown with a modest, off-white head.

Smell – There is a mild sense of yeast and toasted malts but this nose is pretty dull.

Taste – I can kind of get the dunkles weizen flavor and a bit of poorly-made bock, but this beer has a funny tang to it that just doesn’t fit with the style and in fact is quite unpleasant. It’s like a dash of orange soda or something.

Mouthfeel – This is well shy of medium-bodied with cheap carbonation and a flat finish.

Sinkability – I don’t know what this is, but it’s not a wheat OR a bock.

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Photo of tjd25
2.52/5  rDev -32.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

Not overly impressive or lasting head on a beautifully hazy dark brown ebony color body. The smell is wheaty but also shows notes of pear, apple and alcohol. In the taste, the wheat gets overwhelmed by a darker, more roasted malty flavor, and by the fruitiness of apples and pears already noticeable in the smell. Alcohol is clearly, and excessively present. 8% are hard to hide, for sure. Carbonation is a bit low to clean the palate of this excess of alcohol. The finish and aftertaste are chewy and don’t fit in the style. Lacking sweetness and a refreshing character. Something interesting here, a nice try, but not a success. Undrinkable alone, I couldn’t drink half of the 330ml bottle; maybe paired with some food, it could be a little better. Two thousand miles behind Aventinus.

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Photo of AltBock
2.68/5  rDev -27.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

12 oz. bottle with a colorful drawing of a steaming locomotive plowing through the rain forest. There's nothing more satisfying then plowing through a precious ecosystem with a big powerful mechanical object. I dare you find something more satisfying than that! To the left of the train is the US government warning and to the right of the train is the beer's ingredients, refund values, and a batch number. My bottle was from batch number 10. From this, I can tell that it's from...uh, I don't know.

I had no other choice than to pour this Weizenbock into my Erdinger Weizen glass.This beer's color was a cross between a dark caramel brown and an apple cider brown. Usually Weizens have a massive head of foam on them, but this weizen had a tiny 1/4 of an inch head of foam. I honestly can't say what the color of the head of foam was because it dissipated away too fast. Did it leave behind any lace? Hell No! It only left behind 2 clear rings. Not lace, rings! Spots or streaks of lace was nonexistent.

The aroma was on the light side of things. I swirled it around to see if the aroma would wake up a little bit, but it was no avail. The aroma was still on the light side with roasted wheat, a hint of cloves, a touch of banana, a drop of salt water, and plenty of alcohol. I should mention that if this beer is swirled around, the aroma will increase the scent of alcohol. The aroma of this beer was mostly alcohol with a few Weizen characteristics behind it.

The taste was a little better than the aroma that this beer contained. Luckily there wasn't any salt water in the taste. This Weiznbock kicked off with roasted wheat, a touch of ripe banana, and a pinch of cloves. It was after the cloves where this beer showed its true side, alcoholic. The strong taste of alcohol at the end almost tasted like medicinal alcohol. Not good! I know this beer has a 8% ABV, but the strong taste of alcohol at the end made it fell like it contained a 11% ABV content.

Event though this beer had a strong taste of medicinal alcohol to it, it was more of a medium bodied beer. The aftertaste had the taste of roasted wheat, a hint of banana and cloves, a splash of caramel, and a mild touch of alcohol. It's funny, the alcohol in the aftertaste wasn't medicinal like the one in the initial taste was.

I sure hope I got a bad batch of this beer and not all of these taste like this. I have no idea what other batches taste like, but batch 10 relied too much on the alcohol to get it through. If any of the other batches taste like this, then I fully doubt I'd ever drink this beer again.

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Photo of BedetheVenerable
2.71/5  rDev -27%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Presentation: 12oz brown screw cap; no date that I saw

Appearance: Mahogany beer capped by a dark ivory cap. A strong pour produces a nice 2 finger head, but this fades way too quickly to a patchy film and ring.

Smell: Lots of sticky dark fruit (I'm getting dried figs and raisins) as well as some dark brown sugar and a hint of fruity alcohol. Pretty nice overall.

Taste: Unfortunately the flavors don't match the aromas. While there is a really nice, almost burnt toffee characteristic here, the attractive dark fruit aromas are not mirrored in the flavor profile. Hint of earthiness, and a lot (especially for an 8% beer) of fruity alcohol. Too much, IMO.

Mouthfeel: The booziness comes together with a thinner than usual mouthfeel to make this really pretty lackluster.

Drinkability: I dunno if I'm going to get through this one...

Conclusion: Back to the drawing board with this one I'm afraid.

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Photo of Gavage
2.74/5  rDev -26.1%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Appearance:pours a hazy yellowish / light orange color with no head. No lacing or carbonation bubbles are visible.

Smell: caramel and wheat tones are very soft and barely detectable.

Taste: mild caramel sweetness, grainy wheat, no bitterness, and a mild metallic flavor appears while swallowing. Alcohol is barely noticeable. This beer did not seem old or mishandled, just not balanced. Overall a mild flavored weizenbock that just does not excite one's tastebuds.

Mouthfeel: medium bodied beer. Crisp at the start and finishes lightly crisp with a touch of dryness. Aftertaste follows the flavor profile and lingers briefly on the tongue.

Drinkability: this was a beer that one that is easy to forget. Not worth picking this up.

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Photo of decom
2.78/5  rDev -25.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

not my kind of beer.
You can notice the alcohol content too much, and that's bad, IMHO.

It looks great, nice head, hazy unfiltered look, and smells good also. Mouthfeel is similar the Eisenbahn's Weizenbier, only "stronger".

If you like higher alcohol content, I'd recommend this. If you don't, steer away. Maybe if I drank this along with some food, I would've enjoyed more. But since I drank it by itself (while watching a movie), I would ask for a second one.

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Photo of GRG1313
3/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a dark red with a very short, thin white head.

Banana bread/pineapple nose with underlying candy sugar and malt and a nose finish of bubblegum. Pleasant and undertones of toffee and carmel in the nose.

Medium light body of banana and malt. A bit thin in the mouth and short in character and finish. Hints of "sweet" malt and banana is primary character with light carbonation.

Short sweet malt finish.

Pleasant but nothing special.

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Photo of zeff80
3.1/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

A - Poured out a dark garnet color with a one-finger, thin, tan head. It left little to no lace on the glass.

S - It smelled a little boozy and malty with just a touch of wheat aroma.

T - Taste was not much different from the aroma. Boozy, malty and not much wheat.

M - It was fairly crisp and smooth. A medium bodied beer.

D - Weizenbock? More like a dopplebock. I got very little wheat flavors.

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Photo of megahurts4
3.12/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Eisenbahn Vigorosa

Appearance: dark amber, very small head, and a little lacing.

Smell: caramel thick, some spices, and banana.

Taste: banana, roasted malts, and some spice.

Mouthfeel: medium-light.

It is fairly thin and faintly watery. It initially comes off as a thicker triple, but that is not the case.

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Photo of atigerlife
3.18/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a dark brown with a 1 finger creamy brown head. Good retention.

Aroma of malt and light wheat.

Taste is sweet, wheat, woody and cloves. Also get some type of rubber taste going on.

Mouthfeel is slighly cleansing, medium bodied. Rather dull on the tongue.

Overall, drinkable, but not too exciting.

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Photo of beerphilosopher
3.2/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This one is odd, but mostly in a good way. My first of this variety. Poured from a twist top 12 oz bottle into a chalice.

A - Virtually no head to speak of and very little visible carbonation, probably due to the fact that this beer is unfiltered and rather mirky in appearance. At first blush, I thought this one might be flat. It wasn't. Poured a deep brown with a lot of "haze."

S - I thought there would be a head on this beer, then I thought there would be an aroma. Neither show up much. Judging merely from the appearance and aroma, I wouldn't expect much from this beer. Closest I can describe is a faint "hefe" wheat character, not much else. A good swirl of the glass elicited some aroma, but it's quite subdued.

T - Here is where things start to turn around. Maybe I didn't expect much, based on the afore-mentioned characteristics, but I was very pleasantly suprised by this one. Alcohol up front and a very good, fruity taste. Quite complex. An intermingling of wheat and exotic fruits. Leans toward a malty composition, with little detectable hop character. But, this is not inconsistent with a wheat beer. This one has a spicy and fruity taste that puts me in the Holiday spirit. A good beer for Christmas, I'd say. Not something you'd typically say of a wheat beer ... maybe slightly metallic, on the down side.

M - Lively. Again, with almost no discernable head or carbonation, I would expect this one to hit the mouth with a "flat" malty, or even syrupy feel. Not so. This beer is full of suprises. Good alcohol burn, yet smooth and complex. Alcohol lingers on the tongue.

D - Imminently drinkable, but be careful at this ABV! I'm challenged by this beer, and intrigued. It's like a Hefeweizen on steroids! Darker, more complex, and truly a variety of it's own. Share this one with friends and family over the Holidays ... Thanksgiving, Christmas ... whatever. Very festive and very good. Definitely surpassed expectations. A diamond in the rough in a lot of ways.

I'd recommend it. Way to go Brazil!

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Photo of ForWhatAlesYou
3.31/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle poured into a pint glass

A: Head fades almost immediately. Dark with lots of brown and amber tones. Pours and looks like a glass of Diet Dr. Pepper

S: Caramel, banana, sweet bread dough.

T:Tastes of wheat and toasted corn. Caramel, cola. High alcohol is noticeable but balance nicely with the sweet agave syrup flavor.

M: Carbonation fades quickly on the palate into a noticeable light syrup viscosity. Sits well on the tongue and cheeks.

D: Good but I can't shake the similarity to diet soda. Hmmmm....not sure what to think of this.

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Photo of denisconrado
3.5/5  rDev -5.7%

I pretty much effect when putting in tulip, gradually forming the fragrant foam; as my mother said, "until the foam leaves us dizzy." It is a true bock, but I'm not refined taste for it, dropping the cost-benefit to me. Thanks curiosity!

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Photo of brdc
3.5/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Had this one multiple times in Brazil, quite fresh as expected. It seems as though it is a better beer than we get here, although nothing spectacular.

Golden brown, tan head, but just average retention, minimal lacing.
Nose, just like the palate, is predominantly malty and sweetish, with bread, nuts, oats, vanilla and even a banana hint. Light bodied.
Nice, but as mentioned, nothing spectacular, but well worthwhile if you happen to have one fresh in hands.

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Photo of goochpunch
3.55/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours out a murk suede with a strong, billowing, off-white head. Has a candy sweet nose with ample chocolate and bananas and a nice clove undertone. Mild alcohol comes out. The sweetness and alcohol become a bit much in the flavor (although the alcohol isn't exactly overpowering, it's more than I'd like). The yeasty complexities are there but in the shadows of the overwhelming dark malts. Almost has an artificial sweetener flavor to it. Mouthfeel is just a tad stick, but the carbonation is wonderfully smooth. I'd reserve this as a dessert beverage.

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Photo of laituegonflable
3.57/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a rich umber colour, beautifully cloudy and bronze up to the light. Head is pretty pleasant, dense and beige, sinking steadily, lace left is disappointingly thin actually, but yeah, the nice head makes up for it.

Nose is tasty, malty and sweet for the most part, with a pleasant caramel aroma and a hint of brownness - like toastiness but not quite dark and bitter enough for that, just slight sourness. Hints of raisin and cinnamon on there as well and a mild citric hop character. Very pleasant aromatic nose, sweet and fresh.

Taste is considerably more sour, has a fair amount of citrus zest on the front that descends into a slight milkiness on the mid where the malt rises to join it. A hint of vinegar on the mid before it gets mildly toasty again, with some notes of toasted grain and pine nuts, plus light citric hop notes. Quite tangy on the finish actually but really, overall it seems a bit weak, never quite reaches 'full' flavour, could be sweeter, darker or hoppier and lacks classic weizen esters really.

Fairly good body though, seems a bit light for the dryness it produces on the finish, but not bad.

Weak doesn't equal offensive. It needs a bit more balance, like more malt on the front but it's not a bad drop.

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Photo of clickpush
3.58/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured 12oz bottle to tulip. Dark brown beer with plenty of cloudiness capped by a small off white head that descended at a medium pace to nice lacings. Aroma is tons of yeast and caramel, and flavor is more of same, quite nutty, and very present alcohol. Alcohol a bit of a turn off, especially as the beer warmed. Mouthfeel is quite nice, small & steady carbonation. I like the style a lot and this is one worth trying, but not worth going out of your way for.

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Photo of ybnorml
3.59/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A hazy brown beer. Has a very small off white head. Don't blink because you'll miss it. Good strong banana and clove notes in the aroma. With the clove having the upper hand. The banana and clove notes hit first in the flavor. But give way quickly a malty sweetness that has notes of molasses and licorice.

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Photo of Windigstadt
3.6/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours a cloudy chestnut hue with a decent offwhite head, though it dissipated somewhat quickly for a wheat beer.

S: Wow, that's quite the aroma. We're talking beyond malty... it's like every kind of sugar mixed together, plus a little lemon too. I'm also picking up a hint of banana, but none of the phenols I would expect from a Weizen.

T: This is a very sweet beer, though it's more crystal malt sweetness (think brown sugar) than Munich malt sweetness (think sweet bread). Hardly any clove or banana. Hops are virtually non-existent, with an alcoholic dryness keeping the beer from being intolerably sweet.

M: While I would expect a heavy, thick mouthfeel, this beer is actually rather thin and alcoholic.

D: The thinness makes this rather drinkable for an 8% beer.

Overall: This isn't a bad beer, but certainly isn't what I would like in a Weizenbock. It's rather one-dimensional and thin. I don't want to come off as a style Nazi, but I expect more bready complexity and stone fruit, and more esters and phenols, from a Weizenbock.

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Photo of WVbeergeek
3.62/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appears a cloudy murky amber brown mahogany hue large tan head with big bubbles dwindles quickly from about an inch and a half down to just a collar of lacing which are left in uneven specks. Aroma contains tart raisins and spicy christmas bread a real yeast and bread dough characteristic mild cider vinegar tart flow going on as well the fruitiness is rather perfumey. Flavor wise the taste is a bit clouded with spices and it really dominates the effervesent green apple and raisin fruit esters dough powdered yeast sits heavy with light herbal hops this beer is not harmonious it's in battle of spice versuses the yeast almost seems like something of Belgian character rather than a German style weizenbock alcohol is pretty well hidden even as it warms. Mouthfeel is a bit chewy yet soft flowing the carbonation gives this medium to fuller bodied brew enough moving power to not sit on the palate completely but once again the yeast and spice characteristics sit heavy on the tongue in the finish in trainwreck fashion. Drinkability leaves more to be desired for me flavor components attempt to pull of cohesion but it lacks so much from the German predecessors that I'd rather get the original definitely complex and tasty but I'm weary of supporting the Shelton Brothers on a regular basis.

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Photo of Halcyondays
3.62/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

335 mL bottle, thanks Jon,

A: Pours a deep brown with a medium off-white head, solid retention, no lace.

S: Banana bread, definite plum and Concord grape jelly.

T: Cloves come to the forefront a lot more than in the nose. Some dark malt, lots of dark fruit - spiced plums, mission figs and raisins.

M: Medium-bodied, fairly boozy, prickly carbonation.

D: A good weizenbock, not super complex or estery, but it's a solid effort.

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Photo of dsa7783
3.63/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12 oz single bottle copped from Buy Rite on Oak Tree in South Plainfield for $3.99...
First time I've ever heard of this Brazillian company, so I decided to give it a shot after a recommendation...
A hefty pour yielded a full, five-fingered foamy and frothy head that exhibited impressive staying power...
Rich smell dominated by malts and prunes.. very thick and heavy stuff...
Equally rich-tasting flavor bursting with strong, roasted, sweet malts, prunes, figs, dates, caramel, slight chocolate and vanilla, and dehydrated sugared-fruits...
Thick, rich, creamy mouthfeel evident with this one...
Drinkability was decent due to the overwhelming sweet flavor and smell...

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Photo of barefootbrewer
3.65/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer poured a hazy brown with a decent cream colored head. The aroma is earthy, fruity and grainy. The taste is earthy, sweet and malty - slight banana flavor as well. The mouthfeel is medium and seems well suited. Overall, this is a pleasant surprise which I'd recommend.

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Eisenbahn Vigorosa (Weizenbock) from Cervejaria Sudbrack Ltda
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