Eisenbahn Vigorosa (Weizenbock) - Cervejaria Sudbrack Ltda

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Reviews: 90
Hads: 104
rAvg: 3.74
pDev: 12.83%
Wants: 4
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
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Weizenbock |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: soper2000 on 08-30-2005

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Photo of Sammy
3.68/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Surprisingly quite decent unfiltered wheat. I am getting some roasted, very consistent and smooth chocolate, a bit of the banana and clove aroma and flavor.Smooth above average mnouthfeel and very quaffable. A good baskinandrobbins ice cream candy and not too sweet. (266 characters)

Photo of GRG1313
3/5  rDev -19.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a dark red with a very short, thin white head.

Banana bread/pineapple nose with underlying candy sugar and malt and a nose finish of bubblegum. Pleasant and undertones of toffee and carmel in the nose.

Medium light body of banana and malt. A bit thin in the mouth and short in character and finish. Hints of "sweet" malt and banana is primary character with light carbonation.

Short sweet malt finish.

Pleasant but nothing special. (444 characters)

Photo of brentk56
3.85/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a dark amber color with a modest head that leaves a few dribs and drabs of lace

Smell: Fruity, with banana, plum and clove dominant, with caramel beneath

Taste: Fruity, up front, with the banana, green apple and plum favors joined, at mid-palate, by white pepper and clove spice; after the swallow, the sweeter fruit flavors dominate with a spice cake character in the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with prickly carbonation

Drinkability: The is batch 03 so I am guessing it has been a slow mover but I found that the age allowed the heat to settle down and bring the flavors to the front; rather enjoyable (635 characters)

Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.75/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Glowing persimmon with tangerine trim. The golden beige crown was large to start, but is audibly crackling its way down to a slim one finger by the several minute mark. The foam is completely unsticky and is leaving the glass untouched. Great color, average head, no lace.

The nose is reminiscent of lightly toasted, sparsely caraway-seeded rye bread. It's also a trifle earthy-musty. There's very little fruitiness (banana) and less boldness than I would prefer. I'm not jumping out of my seat yet.

Vigorosa Weizenbock (or 'Unfiltered Wheat Doublebock', as my label reads) is a good version that would be much more delicious if it was bigger. The only characteristics that it lacks are depth and flavor linger. Both are the result of a body that is more APA than weizenbock. The carbonation, that is now a fraction too noticeable, would be less so with more malt sugars running interference.

There's nothing much wrong with the flavor profile. I can appreciate a toasted pumpernickel breadiness, golden brown sugar, bruised banana, piquant ground clove and a dash of earthy pipe tobacco. I absolutely love the sweet-spicy contrast... that becomes even more prominent with warming.

Most of what I've had from Cervejaria Sudbrack has been good-very good beer. Unfiltered Wheat Doublebock could be the best one yet if it was bigger and a wee bit bolder. Potentially exceptional. (1,380 characters)

Photo of emerge077
3.96/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz. bottle, poured into a 0.5L Weizen glass. Tan foam creeps up past the half-liter mark, slowly settles in a few minutes. Body is an unfiltered, cloudy auburn.

Vigorosa doesn't have a pronounced aroma. Some light cloviness, esters, & mild whiff of alcohol, however not harsh or offensive.

Clove, almond, and rum are the notes that come out in the taste. ABV is there, again not harsh, but the presence is felt.

Mouthfeel is smooth, not as rich as Aventinus or Mahr's, but very pleasing and drinkable. Overall a solid Weizenbock. (542 characters)

Photo of zeff80
3.1/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

A - Poured out a dark garnet color with a one-finger, thin, tan head. It left little to no lace on the glass.

S - It smelled a little boozy and malty with just a touch of wheat aroma.

T - Taste was not much different from the aroma. Boozy, malty and not much wheat.

M - It was fairly crisp and smooth. A medium bodied beer.

D - Weizenbock? More like a dopplebock. I got very little wheat flavors. (401 characters)

Photo of oberon
4.13/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a flute glass a hazy murky brown with a slight lemony yellow tinge a big blooming off white head that settles into a pillowy mass atop.Smokey clove and toasty malt in the nose with a hint of banana-like fruit,full near chewey mouthfeel but it still glides down very easily,starts out somewhat spicey and clovey with hints of smoke and brown sugar but its very light quite crisp and dry on the palate in the finish with a light banana flavor.This Brazilian brewery puts out some good stuff they know what they are doing this is another fine example. (560 characters)

Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.65/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a clear, lightly effervescent, brown body with a small, ivory-colored head.

Smell: Toasted wheat nose with notes of dark fruit, banana, clove, and a small hint of chocolate. Picks up alot of apple upon warming.

Taste: Toasty wheat malt flavor with a medium candied sweetness. Restrained banana and clove components. Light touch of chocolate. Mild, spicy hops with an equally mild bitterness. Slight underlying yeastiness. As with the aroma, it gets increasingly apple-y. Sweetish finish overall with a little kick of alcohol.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium carbonation. Slight chalky mouthfeel.

Drinkability: A fairly tasty weizenbock with a keen drinkability. (684 characters)

Photo of russpowell
3.98/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a semi-hazed caramel/brown. No lacing or head retention

S: Loads of bubblegum & some apricot

T: Rich breadyness, a bit of juicy fruit gum & a touch of cloves up front. Dryness & a touch of booze & some appleskins & persimmons as this warms. Finishes fruitty & dry, a bit to dry, with a touch of cinnamon, leafy hops & loads of orchard fruits

MF: Chewy with low carbonation

Drinks pretty easy for the style & ABV, not a bad weizenbock at all (451 characters)

Photo of WVbeergeek
3.62/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appears a cloudy murky amber brown mahogany hue large tan head with big bubbles dwindles quickly from about an inch and a half down to just a collar of lacing which are left in uneven specks. Aroma contains tart raisins and spicy christmas bread a real yeast and bread dough characteristic mild cider vinegar tart flow going on as well the fruitiness is rather perfumey. Flavor wise the taste is a bit clouded with spices and it really dominates the effervesent green apple and raisin fruit esters dough powdered yeast sits heavy with light herbal hops this beer is not harmonious it's in battle of spice versuses the yeast almost seems like something of Belgian character rather than a German style weizenbock alcohol is pretty well hidden even as it warms. Mouthfeel is a bit chewy yet soft flowing the carbonation gives this medium to fuller bodied brew enough moving power to not sit on the palate completely but once again the yeast and spice characteristics sit heavy on the tongue in the finish in trainwreck fashion. Drinkability leaves more to be desired for me flavor components attempt to pull of cohesion but it lacks so much from the German predecessors that I'd rather get the original definitely complex and tasty but I'm weary of supporting the Shelton Brothers on a regular basis. (1,297 characters)

Photo of jwc215
3.77/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours hazed reddish-amber with a thin, disappearing head.

The smell is of sweet caramel with a vague herbal spiciness and dark fruitiness.

The taste is of sweet caramel with dark fruitiness (raisin/plum). Wheat tang and a fair amount of hop presence for the style make it well-balanced.

The body is just a bit on the lighter side, but alcohol is well-covered, lending to a good drinkability. Overall, a nice weizenbock. (422 characters)

Photo of Gavage
2.74/5  rDev -26.7%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Appearance:pours a hazy yellowish / light orange color with no head. No lacing or carbonation bubbles are visible.

Smell: caramel and wheat tones are very soft and barely detectable.

Taste: mild caramel sweetness, grainy wheat, no bitterness, and a mild metallic flavor appears while swallowing. Alcohol is barely noticeable. This beer did not seem old or mishandled, just not balanced. Overall a mild flavored weizenbock that just does not excite one's tastebuds.

Mouthfeel: medium bodied beer. Crisp at the start and finishes lightly crisp with a touch of dryness. Aftertaste follows the flavor profile and lingers briefly on the tongue.

Drinkability: this was a beer that one that is easy to forget. Not worth picking this up. (734 characters)

Photo of Halcyondays
3.62/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

335 mL bottle, thanks Jon,

A: Pours a deep brown with a medium off-white head, solid retention, no lace.

S: Banana bread, definite plum and Concord grape jelly.

T: Cloves come to the forefront a lot more than in the nose. Some dark malt, lots of dark fruit - spiced plums, mission figs and raisins.

M: Medium-bodied, fairly boozy, prickly carbonation.

D: A good weizenbock, not super complex or estery, but it's a solid effort. (432 characters)

Photo of DoubleJ
4.33/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I don´t know what `vigarosa´ means in Portuguese, but I had this weizenbock earlier tonight with my friend here in Brazil. 355 ml twist-off, on to the beer:

It´s a dark brown colored beer, almost nlike leather, topped by a large head that continues to say large and leaves lots of attractive lacing. Lots of banana bread in the nose. The nose is nicely spiced as well. A strong tasting beer, but the alcohol is hidden perfecty. Theré is a lot of banana, a touch of clove, topped with more banana bread. Goes down extremely easy for it´s size.

In short, an outstanding weizenbock. I don´t know how fresh it is in the states, but in Brazil, it is exceptional! (666 characters)

Photo of weeare138
3.97/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to egajdzis for opening this brew. I've been trying to get this for a few years now. Batch 10...
Appears a russet toned copper with a small beige head that fades into a mild cap. Spotty lacing is left behind.
Smell is of caramel, bubble gum, doughy bread, yeasty as hell, mild cocoa, toffee, bananas, and other yeasty esters.
Taste is of the mentioned aromas with some fruity flavors shining through highlighted by light grapes.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied, yeasty, sweetly balanced, and estery. (501 characters)

Photo of lacqueredmouse
4.07/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a thick and cloudy deep brown amber colour, with some bubbling head when provoked, but otherwise just a film of off-white bubbling. The thickness and the opaqueness of the body are very nice.

Big sweet weizen notes. More than a hint of banana, some sweet caramel and even a slight hint of booze. Very smooth, rich and very much like a weizenbock should be. Absolutely lovely.

Mouthfeel is surprisingly thin, which is noticeable right from the start - a shame, and unexpected given the apparent thickness in the body. Taste is smooth, lacking a little of the rich and heavy sweetness I was expecting, but with some really pleasant light boozy phenols and a round deep weizen flavour.

A really good weizenbock. One of the best non-German examples I've had. Eisenbahn again show their skills in producing fine examples of classic styles. (843 characters)

Photo of biegaman
3.67/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz twist off bottle, found at Premier Gourmet, in Buffalo.
My second offering from the self-proclaimed "South America's Craft brewery" out of Blumeneau, Brazil.
My first impression, as noted with their Kolsch, is that there is no head; and yet this style is distinctly known for having copious, cloud like bundles of head (as well as properly shaped glassware to uphold them). This weizenbock, however, is flat. Some generated off the pour but it was short lived. The colour is very murky, like muddy swamp water. A half-paced stream of bubbles rise up the center. Very unattractive (and dull) brownish colour. There is some glow near the bottom, the top is simply murky. The aroma is a pleasant offering of wheat, coated with a ripe fruit character (raisin and dates). Lightly pungent, even musty, but well suited to the style and the appearance. Pleasant yes, but even more so underwhelming. Luckily, all was rescued with my first sip - an intense rush of dark wheat with a candy coating of dark fruit/berries, with a delicate touch of roast. A simple (straightforward, like their Kolsch) flavour profile that has just enough depth to keep you interested. The raisin and berries come through very clean on the aftertaste. Not even a faint suggestion as to the alcohol. Another nice offering from this brewery...

As a last thought, irrelevant to reviewing the beer, I feel "saudade" is the most beautiful -not only of all the words in the Portuguese language - but of any... wow, Saudade. (1,497 characters)

Photo of jdhilt
3.94/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a five finger light tan head that fades quickly to a ring leaving a no lace. Cloudy amber color with a ton of yeast left in bottle. Medium carbonation and medium bodied. Sweet clover nose. Flavor is sweet caramel, drying finish, not cloying. $1.99 for a 12oz bottle from John's Marketplace Portland, OR. (309 characters)

Photo of Tone
3.71/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a clear, dark brown color. 1/4 inch head of an off-white color. Slight retention and poor lacing. Smells of sweet malt, dark citrus, yeast, slight alcohol, and hint of wheat. Fits the style of a Weizenbock. Mouth feel is smooth and clean, with an average carbonation level. Tastes of alcohol, sweet malt, slight dark citrus, and yeast. Overall, lacking in body, but good blend and aroma. (393 characters)

Photo of Viggo
4.14/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Purchased at Premier Gourmet!

Pours an opaque orange/brown, thin tan head forms, disappears to a thin ring really fast, some lace spots. Sweet, banana/clove bread, wheat, very malty, caramel, very fruity, bit of alcohol, smells pretty nice. Taste is very malty, sweet caramel, bit of clovey banana bread again, heavy caramel and spice finish, alcohol is well hidden. Mouthfeel is medium bodied with low carbonation, close to flat. Twist off bottle cap coming from Brazil = potential carbonation problem. More carbonation would help it but a pretty damn smooth and nice drinking Weizenbock. (592 characters)

Photo of scruffwhor
3.77/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Ruddy ruby and amber color. Somewhat viscous looking liquid, but when you hold this cola looking beer up to the light, you can see a nice column of bubbles rising to the top. Great aromas of plum, bread, clove, banana, and even some faint bubblegum. Hops aren't noticeable in the nose or taste, But the sweet, fruity yeast or carmelized malt is not cloying at all. Great banana bread combo of yeast and malt upfront. Good carbonation lets the 8% abv give some kiwi fruit flavors. But the alcohol doesn't add a warming feeling to the mouthfeel. Pretty fruity, the wheat and east flavors are shown in full glory with this beer. Plus the deceptive alcohol that mingles very well with the rest of the flavors. (705 characters)

Photo of TurdFurgison
4.02/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I bought this bottle at Stimmel's Market in Bowling Green Ohio ($2.49), my second beer from Cervejaria Sudbrack. Poured into a Sam Adams glass, the beer was dark copper color with a very thin tan head. The smell is dark fruits and bananas mixed with pungent alcohol, a proper weizenbock. The taste is the same, with a nice thick mouthfeel to keep the flavor on the tongue long enough to soak in. A very good weizenbock, one of my favorite styles. (446 characters)

Photo of drpimento
4.32/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Really a fabulous beer! Poured with a fine foamy head that settled down to a light cover. Nice filtered clear maghogany color. Decent body for the style. Intense but classic weizenbock aromas and flavors but with some booziness. Long finish. Good body for the style. (266 characters)

Photo of popery
3.72/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Vigorosa is an okay Weizenbock that suffers from comparisons to the top beers of the style. Aventinus and the relatively new Weihenstephaner Vitus really blow this beer out of the water. It's certainly not a bad beer. It's just sort of simple and unsophisticated in comparison to the big German entries, which happen to be a couple of my very favorite beers. Anyway, this beer looks pretty good, red amber liquid with a dissipating beige head. There are some good wheat and fruit notes in the nose, but they're a bit restrained. There just isn't enough depth The flavor is too sweet and cloying for my taste. The flavors are syrupy clove, ripe banana and caramel malt. There are also some unpleasant alcohol notes. It's not sharp, but there's just a bit of a rubbing alcohol flavor around the edges. I sound down on this beer, but I think it's good. It's just not great. (870 characters)

Photo of RoyalT
2.48/5  rDev -33.7%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Appearance – The beer here is a murky, dark brown with a modest, off-white head.

Smell – There is a mild sense of yeast and toasted malts but this nose is pretty dull.

Taste – I can kind of get the dunkles weizen flavor and a bit of poorly-made bock, but this beer has a funny tang to it that just doesn’t fit with the style and in fact is quite unpleasant. It’s like a dash of orange soda or something.

Mouthfeel – This is well shy of medium-bodied with cheap carbonation and a flat finish.

Sinkability – I don’t know what this is, but it’s not a wheat OR a bock. (577 characters)

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Eisenbahn Vigorosa (Weizenbock) from Cervejaria Sudbrack Ltda
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