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Eisenbahn Vigorosa (Weizenbock) - Cervejaria Sudbrack Ltda

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Reviews: 90
Hads: 105
Avg: 3.71
pDev: 14.56%
Wants: 5
Gots: 4 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: soper2000 on 08-30-2005

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Reviews: 90 | Hads: 105
Photo of GRG1313
3/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a dark red with a very short, thin white head.

Banana bread/pineapple nose with underlying candy sugar and malt and a nose finish of bubblegum. Pleasant and undertones of toffee and carmel in the nose.

Medium light body of banana and malt. A bit thin in the mouth and short in character and finish. Hints of "sweet" malt and banana is primary character with light carbonation.

Short sweet malt finish.

Pleasant but nothing special.

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Photo of scoobybrew
3.76/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This was poured from the bottle into a weizen glass.

A - deep amber color with a thick head that settles quite a bit but is otherwise well retained

S - faint bubble-gum yeast-like notes, some roasted grain scents

T - rich, smooth, sweet malt with a touch of roasted grain; some yeast esters present; alcoholic strength is noted

M - smooth creamy medium-full body with moderate carbonation

D - This is a decent weizenbock. I'm perhaps not enjoying it at the right time of year, but it's tasty nonetheless. I have rarely been disappointed by this brewery.

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Photo of bsp77
3.95/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Received in the April shipment of my Beer of the Month club. Hopefully this is a better month than March. Seriously, what were they thinking?

Serving glass: Poured from bottle into Frankfurt glass.

Appearance: Hazy chocolate brown with huge billowing head that eventually settled to 1/2 inch.

Smell: Banana, bubblegum, sweet dark fruit (plum?), slight noble hops and wheatiness.

Taste: Caramel and fruity malts, some banana and clove spiciness, light bitterness, somewhat grainy from the wheat. Semi-sweet wheat aftertaste.

Feel: Thick and chewy, more moderate carbonation than the pour suggested, slightly warming. There is also a slight chalky coating that it left in my month that detracts a little.

Drinkability: Easy to keep sipping all night long, and the alcohol is mostly hidden. The chalkiness is the only hindrance.

So far, this month's choices are looking better than last month's.

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Photo of CheeseTurds
3.66/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

poured from a bottle. It says on the side that it's from Batch 03, but I can't tell how old it is. Surely, it's not too new if it made the trek from Southern Brazil to San Francisco. The label's all in English so this was clearly bottled for export.

Anyway...it pours a nice dark brown (perhaps dark carmel color). I thought there was a hint of red in it but holding it up to the light just made it look browner. There was about an inch of head but it didn't last long.

On the first whiff I could tell this was going to be a sweet beer. I guess I haven't had anything too sweet lately because that taste really hit me at first. It wasn't boozy, but it tasted like a high alcohol sweetness. I see that it's 8% alcohol so maybe that's what I'm smelling/tasting.

My fridge is at 39 degrees and I thought that maybe that was too cold for this beer so I let the glass sit for a few minutes before drinking any more. When I got back to it, it was easier to taste more of the wheaty taste and maltiness. It was still pretty sweet but still totally drinkable. This seems like a beer better for just plain drinking rather than sipping and analyzing- so I'm just gonna drink it up! I only have one bottle so I don't know what it'd be like to drink a bunch in a row. I think it would be good, though.

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Photo of popery
3.72/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Vigorosa is an okay Weizenbock that suffers from comparisons to the top beers of the style. Aventinus and the relatively new Weihenstephaner Vitus really blow this beer out of the water. It's certainly not a bad beer. It's just sort of simple and unsophisticated in comparison to the big German entries, which happen to be a couple of my very favorite beers. Anyway, this beer looks pretty good, red amber liquid with a dissipating beige head. There are some good wheat and fruit notes in the nose, but they're a bit restrained. There just isn't enough depth The flavor is too sweet and cloying for my taste. The flavors are syrupy clove, ripe banana and caramel malt. There are also some unpleasant alcohol notes. It's not sharp, but there's just a bit of a rubbing alcohol flavor around the edges. I sound down on this beer, but I think it's good. It's just not great.

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Photo of AltBock
2.68/5  rDev -27.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

12 oz. bottle with a colorful drawing of a steaming locomotive plowing through the rain forest. There's nothing more satisfying then plowing through a precious ecosystem with a big powerful mechanical object. I dare you find something more satisfying than that! To the left of the train is the US government warning and to the right of the train is the beer's ingredients, refund values, and a batch number. My bottle was from batch number 10. From this, I can tell that it's from...uh, I don't know.

I had no other choice than to pour this Weizenbock into my Erdinger Weizen glass.This beer's color was a cross between a dark caramel brown and an apple cider brown. Usually Weizens have a massive head of foam on them, but this weizen had a tiny 1/4 of an inch head of foam. I honestly can't say what the color of the head of foam was because it dissipated away too fast. Did it leave behind any lace? Hell No! It only left behind 2 clear rings. Not lace, rings! Spots or streaks of lace was nonexistent.

The aroma was on the light side of things. I swirled it around to see if the aroma would wake up a little bit, but it was no avail. The aroma was still on the light side with roasted wheat, a hint of cloves, a touch of banana, a drop of salt water, and plenty of alcohol. I should mention that if this beer is swirled around, the aroma will increase the scent of alcohol. The aroma of this beer was mostly alcohol with a few Weizen characteristics behind it.

The taste was a little better than the aroma that this beer contained. Luckily there wasn't any salt water in the taste. This Weiznbock kicked off with roasted wheat, a touch of ripe banana, and a pinch of cloves. It was after the cloves where this beer showed its true side, alcoholic. The strong taste of alcohol at the end almost tasted like medicinal alcohol. Not good! I know this beer has a 8% ABV, but the strong taste of alcohol at the end made it fell like it contained a 11% ABV content.

Event though this beer had a strong taste of medicinal alcohol to it, it was more of a medium bodied beer. The aftertaste had the taste of roasted wheat, a hint of banana and cloves, a splash of caramel, and a mild touch of alcohol. It's funny, the alcohol in the aftertaste wasn't medicinal like the one in the initial taste was.

I sure hope I got a bad batch of this beer and not all of these taste like this. I have no idea what other batches taste like, but batch 10 relied too much on the alcohol to get it through. If any of the other batches taste like this, then I fully doubt I'd ever drink this beer again.

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Photo of biggmike
3.67/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This beer poured with a reddish-brown body with a fluffy white head that dissipated slowly. The aroma was of caramel, banana, and clove. The flavor was pretty much the same with some chocolate also coming through. This tasted similar to an Aventinus to me, but the alcohol was more present in the taste than an Aventinus. Decent, but needs a little more refining.

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Photo of scruffwhor
3.77/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Ruddy ruby and amber color. Somewhat viscous looking liquid, but when you hold this cola looking beer up to the light, you can see a nice column of bubbles rising to the top. Great aromas of plum, bread, clove, banana, and even some faint bubblegum. Hops aren't noticeable in the nose or taste, But the sweet, fruity yeast or carmelized malt is not cloying at all. Great banana bread combo of yeast and malt upfront. Good carbonation lets the 8% abv give some kiwi fruit flavors. But the alcohol doesn't add a warming feeling to the mouthfeel. Pretty fruity, the wheat and east flavors are shown in full glory with this beer. Plus the deceptive alcohol that mingles very well with the rest of the flavors.

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Photo of GbVDave
4/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a St. Bernardus goblet.

Batch No. 05

A: Pours an impenetrably hazy, caramel-sauce color. All sediment was swirled and poured into the glass and it was nearly impossible to see any floating in the glass (now that's cloudy!). Tiny light tan head immediately dissolves to a thick and bubbly ring that leaves no lace.

S: This one sports subtle aromas of caramel, chocolate, banana, spicy yeast, and raisins.

T: Spicy white pepper and yeast mix it up with caramel, chocolate, bread pudding, banana bread, pan roasted nuts, dark/tangy fruit, and toasted malt.

M: Big and peppery with a sticky oilyness in the middle that leads into a dry and tangy finish.

D: Where is the alcohol? Who cares! This is a great example of the style and will do time in my fridge again...

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Photo of Bierguy5
3.92/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle, 8% ABV, batch 03. Pours a cloudy mahogany color. Thin tan head disappears immediately. Not too bad looking.

Lots of fruit, particularly banana up front. Hints of chocolate and caramel. A bit vinous with a hint of oxidation, adding a bit of complexity.

A bit of caramel and chocolate flavor at first. A bit of tartness from the wheat comes in next. Lots of ripe fruit, with just a hint of earthy bitterness. Some warming from the alcohol. Nice caramel, banana finish.

Medium body, carbonation seems a bit low for the style. Pretty nice and enjoyable.

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Photo of Jablonski
3.84/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured out into a Weizenglass from a bottle.

Appearance: Pours a rusty-mahogany color that is only slightly cloudy; small head and no lacing

Smell: quite a fruity smell (pears mostly) with some metallic smells as well

Taste: Very malty and fruity taste; others have found a dry aftertaste, but it seems fairly one dimensional to me

Drinkability: nothing bad about this beer, but the fruity taste can get annoying after a while; 2 beers is good

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Photo of philipquarles
3.97/5  rDev +7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy ruby-mahogany with a surprisingly small head for a weizenbier. The dissipates into a film; not much lacing.

Smells of sweet crystal malts and wheat, along with banana and date esters. The taste is quite similar, with dark roasted malt coming through strongly, as well as some very bready yeast notes. The esters are lighter, though cherries also come through.

Overall, a very nice, well balanced beer. It's no Vitus, but not bad at all.

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Photo of MuenchenerKindl
4.42/5  rDev +19.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 12 oz bottle to a steamed glass the liquid is a cloudy dark brown with good carbonation. The head is medium, tan and leave some lace.

The smell is quite good an interesting zing of fresh peppery dark fruit with a touch of flowery rose peddles.

The taste is quite complex, dark fruit is quite zesty, some fresh baked dark rye or pumpernickel with pepper and some Herbes de Provence. Really outstanding Augusteiner himself would be quite impressed.

The mouthfeel is good nice body and good carbonation.

The drinkability of this brew is really quite outstanding in by book.

Prosit und Zum Wohl, MK

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Photo of russpowell
3.98/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a semi-hazed caramel/brown. No lacing or head retention

S: Loads of bubblegum & some apricot

T: Rich breadyness, a bit of juicy fruit gum & a touch of cloves up front. Dryness & a touch of booze & some appleskins & persimmons as this warms. Finishes fruitty & dry, a bit to dry, with a touch of cinnamon, leafy hops & loads of orchard fruits

MF: Chewy with low carbonation

Drinks pretty easy for the style & ABV, not a bad weizenbock at all

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Photo of beersabound
4.02/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The brewery calls it a wheat doppelbock and it is a good at that. The color is a little paler than a normal doppelbock but still has a rich copper hue. It's unfiltered but the yeast was packed pretty tight on the bottom and little clouded up the beer. An aroma of toast, light caramel and some plum come out at first and later some earthy spice notes were detected. Very inviting. The mouthfeel is smooth and fluffs up like a friendly pillow. The flavor is clean with great light caramel malts, moderate bitterness and is well balanced. Overall, I was rather impressed with this one and found it quite drinkable. But, it is not like Aventinus or other Weizenbocks. More like a light doppelbock.

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Photo of vurt
3.8/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle purchased a while ago at The Wine House, Los Angeles, CA. The label indicates that this is Batch 05. Enjoyed in an Aventinus glass (think of a wine glass fused to the body of a kölsch stange). I swirled the last bit in the bottle so I could get more yeast into the pour.

This is a hazy auburn colored brew, with vivid orange highlights. A finger of beige foam shrinks into a collar and a thin skin on the surface, but it is restored with a steady swirl of the glass. The body is a little viscous, and leaves some lacing which eventually slips back into the beer.

The savory malty aroma reminds me of when I used to be a home-brewer, when I would mill the grain at the shop. A delicious dry, nutty, somewhat crackery smell. The darker malts provide a little chocolate to go with the malt-- a veritable malted milk ball in a glass. Some sweet banana and caramel notes emerge next. I get only the barest suggestion of earthy hops at the end, which is certainly true to style.

A rich caramel sweetness at the beginning makes this weizenbock seem like more of a doppelbock. There is some spiciness to go with the caramel, but it tastes more like cinnamon than cloves to me. A good banana note surfaces in the middle and pairs with the spiciness to create a great foil for the caramel and an emerging dark chocolate flavor. The finish is pleasantly fruity-- some black mission figs to go with the bananas. The yeasty tang I was expecting much sooner shows up at the end as well.

This could really stand a little more carbonation. The tiny bubbles it has now can barely cut through the rich, full body, and as a result the beer feels a bit milky.

Even though this beer weighs in at a generous 8%, the alcohol is masterfully hidden. This fairly sweet beer could use more carbonation-- the size of the bubbles is good right now; it could just use a lot more of them. I think it could also use more phenolic spiciness. There's not enough weizen in this weizenbock.

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Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.65/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a clear, lightly effervescent, brown body with a small, ivory-colored head.

Smell: Toasted wheat nose with notes of dark fruit, banana, clove, and a small hint of chocolate. Picks up alot of apple upon warming.

Taste: Toasty wheat malt flavor with a medium candied sweetness. Restrained banana and clove components. Light touch of chocolate. Mild, spicy hops with an equally mild bitterness. Slight underlying yeastiness. As with the aroma, it gets increasingly apple-y. Sweetish finish overall with a little kick of alcohol.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium carbonation. Slight chalky mouthfeel.

Drinkability: A fairly tasty weizenbock with a keen drinkability.

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Photo of tpd975
3.72/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Quake for this one at the most recent tasting

A: Pours a nice brown hue with ample head. Good retention no lace.

S: Sweet toffee aromas with hints of toasted malt, chocolate, and some spice.

T: Taste matches nose with the toastyness really coming out.

M: Medium in body fairly rich for the style.

D: Not bad, an overall good brew.

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Photo of malcontent
3.65/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Hazy, brownish-amber with just a touch of off-white head.

Powdery clove, ripe plums, soft caramel and toasted wheat. Nice.

Big, bubble gum/clove weizen flavor right up front with a pleasant roasted malt note before a clean finish. However it does meander a bit into watery territory prior to the conclusion.

Once again, a bit too thin after a promising, well-carbonated start. Still, this is an above average take on the style and an encouraging sign coming from South America.

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Photo of ColoradoBobs
4.05/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

355ml bottle as shown. Plenty of yeast at the bottom of the bottle, so I poured it like a Hefeweizen, in two stages: first, the slow pour until about 3 ounces are left, then a vigorous 5-second swirl to pick up the yeast in the bottle and sudden pour. Yields a large light tan head over a hazy mahogany body. Head fades quickly, leaving only a little lacing.

Smell is wheat, malted wheat, grass, hay, cracker malts, bread dough, and warm yeast: like warm malted raisin bread dough rising. This beer is alive. Spicey clove and coriander. Overall aroma is nice, but not too strong.

Taste is clove and cinnamon on toasted raisin bread. I really like the taste. SOOO spicey, more cinnamon than any other beer I've ever had. Chocolate on the finish, then more cinnamon and pepper warmth in the aftertaste. For how mild this smelled, I'm surprised by the flavor.

Mouthfeel is really nice. If anything, maybe there's a bit too much carbonation in the mouth.

Drinkability -- complex flavors lend themselves to long drinking, but there is so much carbonation from the ample yeast, I don't think I could drink more than a couple. That, plus the 8.0%, lowers the drinkability a bit.

Thanks to crosling, the beer manager at LiquorMax in Loveland, Colorado for the recommendation. I'll have more of this.


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Photo of jwc215
3.77/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours hazed reddish-amber with a thin, disappearing head.

The smell is of sweet caramel with a vague herbal spiciness and dark fruitiness.

The taste is of sweet caramel with dark fruitiness (raisin/plum). Wheat tang and a fair amount of hop presence for the style make it well-balanced.

The body is just a bit on the lighter side, but alcohol is well-covered, lending to a good drinkability. Overall, a nice weizenbock.

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Photo of jdhilt
3.94/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a five finger light tan head that fades quickly to a ring leaving a no lace. Cloudy amber color with a ton of yeast left in bottle. Medium carbonation and medium bodied. Sweet clover nose. Flavor is sweet caramel, drying finish, not cloying. $1.99 for a 12oz bottle from John's Marketplace Portland, OR.

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Photo of Sammy
3.68/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Surprisingly quite decent unfiltered wheat. I am getting some roasted, very consistent and smooth chocolate, a bit of the banana and clove aroma and flavor.Smooth above average mnouthfeel and very quaffable. A good baskinandrobbins ice cream candy and not too sweet.

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Photo of Beertracker
3.95/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Sudbrack's Eisenbahn Vigorosa pours up neatly with a fine creamy whitish head that tops a slightly hazy copper-tawny brown body. The slightly spicy/phenolic (allspice, cloves, nutmeg) nose has a low-moderate fruitiness (apple, banana, pear) with some light bubblegum esters & chocolate-vanilla notes underlying the toasted bread graininess. The flavor starts off with a mild toffee/caramel character supported by a moderately toasty wheat bread graininess that's marked by just a touch of bitterness to balance the melanoidin sweetness. The underlying spiciness also helps to carry this one along to a mildly fruity, slightly yeasty, & warming finish. This medium bodied bottle-conditioned weizenbock has ample carbonation, but lacks some creaminess (fullness) & complexity. This weizenbock is a solid intepretation from South America's craft brewery and heavily influenced by tradition. Recommended pairings include Carpaccio with radicchio & parmesan, Chop suey, orange-glazed duck, Hungarian goulash, baked ham, grilled trout, beer braised sausages, or breaded veal. Here's to Gemütlichkeit & the Reinheitsgebot which are obviously alive & well in Brazil.

PROST! Beertracker

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Photo of dsa7783
3.63/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12 oz single bottle copped from Buy Rite on Oak Tree in South Plainfield for $3.99...
First time I've ever heard of this Brazillian company, so I decided to give it a shot after a recommendation...
A hefty pour yielded a full, five-fingered foamy and frothy head that exhibited impressive staying power...
Rich smell dominated by malts and prunes.. very thick and heavy stuff...
Equally rich-tasting flavor bursting with strong, roasted, sweet malts, prunes, figs, dates, caramel, slight chocolate and vanilla, and dehydrated sugared-fruits...
Thick, rich, creamy mouthfeel evident with this one...
Drinkability was decent due to the overwhelming sweet flavor and smell...

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Eisenbahn Vigorosa (Weizenbock) from Cervejaria Sudbrack Ltda
84 out of 100 based on 90 ratings.