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Eisenbahn Vigorosa (Weizenbock) - Cervejaria Sudbrack Ltda

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Ratings: 103
Reviews: 90
rAvg: 3.72
pDev: 13.44%
Wants: 4
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
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Brazil

Style | ABV
Weizenbock |  8.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: soper2000 on 08-30-2005

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Ratings: 103 | Reviews: 90
Photo of MuenchenerKindl
4.42/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 12 oz bottle to a steamed glass the liquid is a cloudy dark brown with good carbonation. The head is medium, tan and leave some lace.

The smell is quite good an interesting zing of fresh peppery dark fruit with a touch of flowery rose peddles.

The taste is quite complex, dark fruit is quite zesty, some fresh baked dark rye or pumpernickel with pepper and some Herbes de Provence. Really outstanding Augusteiner himself would be quite impressed.

The mouthfeel is good nice body and good carbonation.

The drinkability of this brew is really quite outstanding in by book.

Prosit und Zum Wohl, MK

Photo of russpowell
3.98/5  rDev +7%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a semi-hazed caramel/brown. No lacing or head retention

S: Loads of bubblegum & some apricot

T: Rich breadyness, a bit of juicy fruit gum & a touch of cloves up front. Dryness & a touch of booze & some appleskins & persimmons as this warms. Finishes fruitty & dry, a bit to dry, with a touch of cinnamon, leafy hops & loads of orchard fruits

MF: Chewy with low carbonation

Drinks pretty easy for the style & ABV, not a bad weizenbock at all

Photo of beersabound
4.02/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

The brewery calls it a wheat doppelbock and it is a good at that. The color is a little paler than a normal doppelbock but still has a rich copper hue. It's unfiltered but the yeast was packed pretty tight on the bottom and little clouded up the beer. An aroma of toast, light caramel and some plum come out at first and later some earthy spice notes were detected. Very inviting. The mouthfeel is smooth and fluffs up like a friendly pillow. The flavor is clean with great light caramel malts, moderate bitterness and is well balanced. Overall, I was rather impressed with this one and found it quite drinkable. But, it is not like Aventinus or other Weizenbocks. More like a light doppelbock.

Photo of vurt
3.8/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle purchased a while ago at The Wine House, Los Angeles, CA. The label indicates that this is Batch 05. Enjoyed in an Aventinus glass (think of a wine glass fused to the body of a kölsch stange). I swirled the last bit in the bottle so I could get more yeast into the pour.

Appearance:
This is a hazy auburn colored brew, with vivid orange highlights. A finger of beige foam shrinks into a collar and a thin skin on the surface, but it is restored with a steady swirl of the glass. The body is a little viscous, and leaves some lacing which eventually slips back into the beer.

Smell:
The savory malty aroma reminds me of when I used to be a home-brewer, when I would mill the grain at the shop. A delicious dry, nutty, somewhat crackery smell. The darker malts provide a little chocolate to go with the malt-- a veritable malted milk ball in a glass. Some sweet banana and caramel notes emerge next. I get only the barest suggestion of earthy hops at the end, which is certainly true to style.

Taste:
A rich caramel sweetness at the beginning makes this weizenbock seem like more of a doppelbock. There is some spiciness to go with the caramel, but it tastes more like cinnamon than cloves to me. A good banana note surfaces in the middle and pairs with the spiciness to create a great foil for the caramel and an emerging dark chocolate flavor. The finish is pleasantly fruity-- some black mission figs to go with the bananas. The yeasty tang I was expecting much sooner shows up at the end as well.

Mouthfeel:
This could really stand a little more carbonation. The tiny bubbles it has now can barely cut through the rich, full body, and as a result the beer feels a bit milky.

Drinkability:
Even though this beer weighs in at a generous 8%, the alcohol is masterfully hidden. This fairly sweet beer could use more carbonation-- the size of the bubbles is good right now; it could just use a lot more of them. I think it could also use more phenolic spiciness. There's not enough weizen in this weizenbock.

Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.65/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a clear, lightly effervescent, brown body with a small, ivory-colored head.

Smell: Toasted wheat nose with notes of dark fruit, banana, clove, and a small hint of chocolate. Picks up alot of apple upon warming.

Taste: Toasty wheat malt flavor with a medium candied sweetness. Restrained banana and clove components. Light touch of chocolate. Mild, spicy hops with an equally mild bitterness. Slight underlying yeastiness. As with the aroma, it gets increasingly apple-y. Sweetish finish overall with a little kick of alcohol.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium carbonation. Slight chalky mouthfeel.

Drinkability: A fairly tasty weizenbock with a keen drinkability.

Photo of tpd975
3.72/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Quake for this one at the most recent tasting

A: Pours a nice brown hue with ample head. Good retention no lace.

S: Sweet toffee aromas with hints of toasted malt, chocolate, and some spice.

T: Taste matches nose with the toastyness really coming out.

M: Medium in body fairly rich for the style.

D: Not bad, an overall good brew.

Photo of malcontent
3.65/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Hazy, brownish-amber with just a touch of off-white head.

Powdery clove, ripe plums, soft caramel and toasted wheat. Nice.

Big, bubble gum/clove weizen flavor right up front with a pleasant roasted malt note before a clean finish. However it does meander a bit into watery territory prior to the conclusion.

Once again, a bit too thin after a promising, well-carbonated start. Still, this is an above average take on the style and an encouraging sign coming from South America.

Photo of ColoradoBobs
4.05/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

355ml bottle as shown. Plenty of yeast at the bottom of the bottle, so I poured it like a Hefeweizen, in two stages: first, the slow pour until about 3 ounces are left, then a vigorous 5-second swirl to pick up the yeast in the bottle and sudden pour. Yields a large light tan head over a hazy mahogany body. Head fades quickly, leaving only a little lacing.

Smell is wheat, malted wheat, grass, hay, cracker malts, bread dough, and warm yeast: like warm malted raisin bread dough rising. This beer is alive. Spicey clove and coriander. Overall aroma is nice, but not too strong.

Taste is clove and cinnamon on toasted raisin bread. I really like the taste. SOOO spicey, more cinnamon than any other beer I've ever had. Chocolate on the finish, then more cinnamon and pepper warmth in the aftertaste. For how mild this smelled, I'm surprised by the flavor.

Mouthfeel is really nice. If anything, maybe there's a bit too much carbonation in the mouth.

Drinkability -- complex flavors lend themselves to long drinking, but there is so much carbonation from the ample yeast, I don't think I could drink more than a couple. That, plus the 8.0%, lowers the drinkability a bit.

Thanks to crosling, the beer manager at LiquorMax in Loveland, Colorado for the recommendation. I'll have more of this.

ColoradoBobs

Photo of jwc215
3.77/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours hazed reddish-amber with a thin, disappearing head.

The smell is of sweet caramel with a vague herbal spiciness and dark fruitiness.

The taste is of sweet caramel with dark fruitiness (raisin/plum). Wheat tang and a fair amount of hop presence for the style make it well-balanced.

The body is just a bit on the lighter side, but alcohol is well-covered, lending to a good drinkability. Overall, a nice weizenbock.

Photo of jdhilt
3.94/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a five finger light tan head that fades quickly to a ring leaving a no lace. Cloudy amber color with a ton of yeast left in bottle. Medium carbonation and medium bodied. Sweet clover nose. Flavor is sweet caramel, drying finish, not cloying. $1.99 for a 12oz bottle from John's Marketplace Portland, OR.

Photo of Sammy
3.68/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Surprisingly quite decent unfiltered wheat. I am getting some roasted, very consistent and smooth chocolate, a bit of the banana and clove aroma and flavor.Smooth above average mnouthfeel and very quaffable. A good baskinandrobbins ice cream candy and not too sweet.

Photo of Beertracker
3.95/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Sudbrack's Eisenbahn Vigorosa pours up neatly with a fine creamy whitish head that tops a slightly hazy copper-tawny brown body. The slightly spicy/phenolic (allspice, cloves, nutmeg) nose has a low-moderate fruitiness (apple, banana, pear) with some light bubblegum esters & chocolate-vanilla notes underlying the toasted bread graininess. The flavor starts off with a mild toffee/caramel character supported by a moderately toasty wheat bread graininess that's marked by just a touch of bitterness to balance the melanoidin sweetness. The underlying spiciness also helps to carry this one along to a mildly fruity, slightly yeasty, & warming finish. This medium bodied bottle-conditioned weizenbock has ample carbonation, but lacks some creaminess (fullness) & complexity. This weizenbock is a solid intepretation from South America's craft brewery and heavily influenced by tradition. Recommended pairings include Carpaccio with radicchio & parmesan, Chop suey, orange-glazed duck, Hungarian goulash, baked ham, grilled trout, beer braised sausages, or breaded veal. Here's to Gemütlichkeit & the Reinheitsgebot which are obviously alive & well in Brazil.

PROST! Beertracker

Photo of dsa7783
3.63/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12 oz single bottle copped from Buy Rite on Oak Tree in South Plainfield for $3.99...
First time I've ever heard of this Brazillian company, so I decided to give it a shot after a recommendation...
A hefty pour yielded a full, five-fingered foamy and frothy head that exhibited impressive staying power...
Rich smell dominated by malts and prunes.. very thick and heavy stuff...
Equally rich-tasting flavor bursting with strong, roasted, sweet malts, prunes, figs, dates, caramel, slight chocolate and vanilla, and dehydrated sugared-fruits...
Thick, rich, creamy mouthfeel evident with this one...
Drinkability was decent due to the overwhelming sweet flavor and smell...

Photo of ybnorml
3.59/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A hazy brown beer. Has a very small off white head. Don't blink because you'll miss it. Good strong banana and clove notes in the aroma. With the clove having the upper hand. The banana and clove notes hit first in the flavor. But give way quickly a malty sweetness that has notes of molasses and licorice.

Photo of TurdFurgison
4.02/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I bought this bottle at Stimmel's Market in Bowling Green Ohio ($2.49), my second beer from Cervejaria Sudbrack. Poured into a Sam Adams glass, the beer was dark copper color with a very thin tan head. The smell is dark fruits and bananas mixed with pungent alcohol, a proper weizenbock. The taste is the same, with a nice thick mouthfeel to keep the flavor on the tongue long enough to soak in. A very good weizenbock, one of my favorite styles.

Photo of deepsouth
3.88/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

this beer poured a hazy brown color with very little head that disapated quickly. the smell was fruity and malty. the taste is a bit sweet and a bit bitter, very well balanced. this beer is very consistant with the style.

i'm very impressed with the two offerings i have had from this brewery.

Photo of barefootbrewer
3.65/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer poured a hazy brown with a decent cream colored head. The aroma is earthy, fruity and grainy. The taste is earthy, sweet and malty - slight banana flavor as well. The mouthfeel is medium and seems well suited. Overall, this is a pleasant surprise which I'd recommend.

Photo of Mdog
3.76/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: By swirling in the bottle a lot, I was able to produce a brown mocha swirl effect from the yeast, cool looking.

Smell: Yeasty, a little banana, a little floral note like roses.

Taste: Moderately sweet, bready with a good banana bread-like flavor.

Mouthfeel: Seems thinner than it should be.

Drinkability: Pretty rare around here and pretty pricey, I'd have it again though.

Hey, a new weizenbock! Since it's one of my favorite styles, I had to try it. It's a pretty good effort, too bad the brewery's in Brazil and not the midwest.

Photo of Natural510
3.93/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a nice, thick head from bottle. Color is medium-brown with yellowish overtone (likely from the wheat).
Taste is bitter, tangy and a bit tart....but overall smoky, much like the smoked lager also from this brand. The mouthful is hoppy & very carbonated. Perhaps not the most drinkable beer, if you do not enjoy smokiness in your brew, but a quality choice which stands on its own nonetheless.

Photo of sloejams
3.85/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I picked this up at the Pizza Port Carlsbad bottle shop, mid-Dec 2007.

I am happy to see craft brews available from South America here in SoCal, hopefully a push forward.

Color is a deep brown, small but persistent head. Nutty aroma with plum and some banana. Only had one 12 oz bottle and it went quickly.

Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.75/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Glowing persimmon with tangerine trim. The golden beige crown was large to start, but is audibly crackling its way down to a slim one finger by the several minute mark. The foam is completely unsticky and is leaving the glass untouched. Great color, average head, no lace.

The nose is reminiscent of lightly toasted, sparsely caraway-seeded rye bread. It's also a trifle earthy-musty. There's very little fruitiness (banana) and less boldness than I would prefer. I'm not jumping out of my seat yet.

Vigorosa Weizenbock (or 'Unfiltered Wheat Doublebock', as my label reads) is a good version that would be much more delicious if it was bigger. The only characteristics that it lacks are depth and flavor linger. Both are the result of a body that is more APA than weizenbock. The carbonation, that is now a fraction too noticeable, would be less so with more malt sugars running interference.

There's nothing much wrong with the flavor profile. I can appreciate a toasted pumpernickel breadiness, golden brown sugar, bruised banana, piquant ground clove and a dash of earthy pipe tobacco. I absolutely love the sweet-spicy contrast... that becomes even more prominent with warming.

Most of what I've had from Cervejaria Sudbrack has been good-very good beer. Unfiltered Wheat Doublebock could be the best one yet if it was bigger and a wee bit bolder. Potentially exceptional.

Photo of RoyalT
2.48/5  rDev -33.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Appearance – The beer here is a murky, dark brown with a modest, off-white head.

Smell – There is a mild sense of yeast and toasted malts but this nose is pretty dull.

Taste – I can kind of get the dunkles weizen flavor and a bit of poorly-made bock, but this beer has a funny tang to it that just doesn’t fit with the style and in fact is quite unpleasant. It’s like a dash of orange soda or something.

Mouthfeel – This is well shy of medium-bodied with cheap carbonation and a flat finish.

Sinkability – I don’t know what this is, but it’s not a wheat OR a bock.

Photo of drpimento
4.32/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Really a fabulous beer! Poured with a fine foamy head that settled down to a light cover. Nice filtered clear maghogany color. Decent body for the style. Intense but classic weizenbock aromas and flavors but with some booziness. Long finish. Good body for the style.

Photo of badbeer
4.72/5  rDev +26.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Nice dark amber color with an off-white head that retains well. Smell is very rich of caramel, various spices, dark fruit, and some clove. Burnt sugar and dark caramel sweetness greet the tongue, followed by perfect amount of spiciness (not spicy as in chili spicy, mind you), with a lingering sweet caramel finish with just a touch of banana. Carbonation is on the higher side, but not overpowering, it's just the right amount. Body is full, chewy, but not cloying; no discernable alcohol coming through. Truly an exceptional beer, I'm glad I decided to try it. I will be buying more of this and will be trying some of their other products.

Photo of doppelmeup
4/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This was a solid beer all around. Poured a pretty copper gold into my Aventinus Weizenbock glass. Not a lot of head, but typical for the style.

Aromas weren't as spicy as I remembered Aventinus..Not nearly the clove or allspice presence. But nonetheless, a sweet, malty aroma prevailed.

Taste as good. Definite doppelbock, sweet, malty, slightly spicy.

Mouthfeel was thick and warming, with just a hint of alcohol presence.

Overall, this was a very nice beer and I would recommend it.

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Eisenbahn Vigorosa (Weizenbock) from Cervejaria Sudbrack Ltda
84 out of 100 based on 103 ratings.