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Pisgah Valdez - Pisgah Brewing Co.

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Pisgah ValdezPisgah Valdez

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

300 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 300
Reviews: 193
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 11.81%
Wants: 177
Gots: 19 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Pisgah Brewing Co. visit their website
North Carolina, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 12-02-2007)
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3.75/5  rDev -9.6%

AngusOg, Nov 29, 2012
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3.75/5  rDev -9.6%

Jlang2012, May 09, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -9.6%

bgramels, Dec 22, 2012
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3.75/5  rDev -9.6%

JoninVT, Apr 29, 2013
Photo of CoolJosh
3.75/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Very generously shared by treyrab at one of our rare tastings in February.

Pours an average black with some lighter brown see-through around the edges. A nice khaki highly carbonated head. Looks alright, I guess similar to that of a coffee stout.

This beer smells very similar to founders breakfast stout. Very airy, with a lot of bitter coffee. A little bit salty. Some bitter roasts but not many to speak of.

Very thin and way too carbonated which is really throwing me off. Not complex by any means but I've come to expect that with coffee stouts (not dissing the style). Tons of bitter coffee and some oats but that's hindered due to the carbonation. If I were to sit this down in the morning and drink a carbonated black cup of coffee, this is what I'd drink.

I don't know if this style is misclassified, but this beer is far from an imperial stout.

CoolJosh, May 05, 2009
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3.75/5  rDev -9.6%

birchstick, Mar 22, 2012
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3.75/5  rDev -9.6%

dataylor21, Jun 03, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev -9.6%

pintofparadise, Dec 24, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -9.6%

lakersfan16, Jul 06, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev -9.6%

ZEB89, Dec 27, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -9.6%

WOLFGANG, Jul 22, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -9.6%

popery, Mar 01, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -9.6%

BigTrubble, Dec 24, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -9.6%

nickfl, Mar 11, 2013
Photo of mondegreen
3.78/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

22oz into a Pisgah pint glass.

No bottled on date. Bottle says 6.5% abv.

Pours pitch black with the smallest sliver of ruby highlighting. A tiny bit of tan froth on top, but no real head to speak of.

Aroma is straight coffee. Roasty and a little sweet. It is one dimensional, but it is one of the best smelling coffe beers I've had.

Taste is bitter coffee, borderlining on burnt. I'd like a little more complexity here, but it's still pleasent.

The mouth is something of a letdown. It is more along the lines of an American Stout, way too thin for a double. Of course, the abv isn't all that imperial either, so the category kinda confuses me.

Drinkability is nice. The bitterness does linger, forcing you to take it slow to avoid palate fatigue, but its still a very very good coffe stout. It is almost reminiscent of Terrapin/Left Hand's Depth Charge, but not nearly as sweet. I'd love to see this one as a true Imperial at 10% or so.

mondegreen, Jul 30, 2010
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3.78/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Beautiful offblack with tiny dark tan bubbles in a medium high head. Good lasting power on that head.

Smells a lot of dryer chocolates - cocoa powder.

There's more going on than just the chocolate. Light, a little hop tang, the chocolate, of course, but not as a bitter dry one. Hints of coffee.

Light in the mouth for a double. More like a coffee or chocolate porter given the alcohol and body.

Decent and light and easy enough for drinking on warmer days. Rich enough for drinking on cooler days. Not bad!

charlesw, Sep 24, 2009
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3.78/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Thanks to mikesgroove for allowing me to take part in this bomber.

Jet black in colour, effervescent head that died quickly with essentially no lacing throughout. Aromas strong of roasted coffee and some malt tones. Not much else. The coffee flavor was pretty dominant. Not a bad thing. But there really was little else. Slight roasted flavor to play with the coffee notes, but not much else.

A decent brew, overall.

goindownsouth, Sep 07, 2008
Photo of jsanford
3.8/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle poured into a Tulip Glass.

Poured a bark black with a creamy mocha head. Big, sweet Stout aromas of dark malt, chocolate, coffee, milk, sugar, and cream. Taste is quite similar, getting lots of that coffee-and-cream thing going on. This reminds me a bit of Terrapin's Depth Charge, which is definitely a good thing. Mouthfeel is very creamy, with a medium-full body and solid carbonation. Overall a great coffee Stout, certainly one of the best I've had!

jsanford, Oct 18, 2011
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3.8/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled January 2009 (discovered today in my cellar)

Appearance: Pours pitch black with a massive, creamy tan head that coats the pint glass with a sheet of lace

Smell: Coffee, coffee and coffee....with sugar; smells like a Cuban coffee

Taste: Cuban coffee with chocolate underneath; the sweeter aspects grow in the middle, with chocolate building in the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with creamy carbonation

Overall: While it is a bit too sweet for my palate, that may be a function of age, with the hops falling by the wayside; other than that, the beer has held up pretty well over the past four years

brentk56, Dec 28, 2012
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3.8/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The only thing that keeps this from getting a perfect appearance score for an impy stout is a bunch of floaties in it. Interesting.
Smells like coffee. Very little else. Some sweet grain, some roastiness, but basically coffee.
Flavor is much the same. A good malt backbone, but mostly coffee. Not much else. Rather one-dimensional. Good for breakfast.
Initially very carbonated and a bit thin. Mouthfeel gets better as the beer warms, becomes a bit silky with a slightly dry finish.
The beer is good. Worth a try. I find it to be a bit overrated, however. A bit one dimensional.

khiasmus, Sep 29, 2008
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3.83/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dark but not completely opaque brew. Dark chocolate brown in color topped by a medium brown orange tinted head. The head, comprised of medium bubbles densely packed together is large at first and fades to a foamy 1/4 inch. Lace is sparse. Aroma reminds me more of a milk (+ coffee) stout. Creamy, lactic, bakers chocolate, roast coffee, nuts, very light flowery hops, and a bunch of caramel maltiness. In the taste the roast coffee becomes more dominant than the chocolate and this still seems to have a lot of lactic qualities. Body is medium and the carbonation is appropriate. Mouthfeel is smooth and a bit slick. Drinkability is decent.

tastybeer, Sep 28, 2008
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3.83/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle. Poured into a New Belgium glass a dark brown color with a nice 1 finger tan head that settles to form a coaster. Roasted coffee, malts, tobacco, and leather dominate the nose. Medium mouthfeel. pretty velvety. Slightly sweet flavor soon gives way to a nice roasted coffee flavor that linger on for a while. Not the best coffee stout I have had but not bad either.

kbutler1, Dec 11, 2010
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3.85/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Reviewing based on notes from a prior tasting.

A - Black with a fair head spoiled by overfilling. Retention is good.

S - Overpowering coffee/espresso. Hard to get much else, although some chocolate and berry appears as it warms.

T - Very similar to iced coffee. Not much else is apparent. The bitterness is well balanced.

M - Carbonation is good, but I like my stouts thicker. This one is a bit thin.

D - Pretty easy to drink for a stout, seems a little light on the ABV for an 'Imperial', aiding the drinkability a bit. The balance aids as well.

This definitely has more 'coffee' to it than most other stouts I have had. This is good, but strikes me as a one trick pony kind of beer. Personally I would prefer a little more complexity.

Sponan, Jun 23, 2008
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3.9/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

My first sample from this brewery. Pours a deep black color with a huge, huge head. Almsot seems infected by the overcarbonation but I tend to think it is just the beer itself. Head has to be 2 inches thick. Ok aroma-the coffe smell is offset by a somewhat metallic and oxidized tinge. Solid roasted malt and coffee flavors dominate. Sort of grainy. Decent mouthfeel-finish is rather dry actually. A decent enough beer. Lacks whatever is needed to push it over the top.

lackenhauser, Apr 12, 2009
Photo of Jeffo
3.9/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bomber of this one provided by jbeatty. Thanks for the trade man!

From a bomber into a snifter
Vintage: 2010

APPEARANCE: A dark brown pour yields a two finger, medium looking, noisy, crackly, dark tan head with decent retention. Black body, opaque and medium carbonation evident. Head fades to a full film on top. A half wisp and a ring remain until the end leaving some nice lacing down the glass. Very nice looking beer, though noisy heads are never that appealing.

SMELL: Medium strength nose of roasted malts, roasted coffee beans, sweet cream and vanilla notes. A hint of caramel as well. Like a latte or a very milky, creamy coffee. A very nice nose for the age, though is has mellowed quite a bit at this point I fear.

TASTE: Some roasted and caramel malts up front with sweet cream and milky, roasted coffee through the middle into the finish. Sweet cream and vanilla mesh well with the coffee flavors, making it much like a latte, as the nose had advertised. Milder aftertaste of sweet cream, roasted coffee and a light bitterness lingers nicely on the palate. Very nice and appealing, but much like the nose, this has probably mellowed quite a bit over time.

PALATE: Medium body and medium carbonation. Light and creamy smooth on the palate, goes down smooth and finishes slightly dry. Nice and creamy feel.

OVERALL: I wouldn’t call this an imperial stout, but as an American coffee stout, this one is quite nice. I would think the nose and flavor profile was much bolder and forthcoming when the beer was fresh, but after over a year in the bottle, it’s certainly a nice drink; people who enjoy coffee stouts that are more restrained will definitely be extremely pleased with this. I certainly enjoyed this one and the bomber disappeared far too quickly. Thanks again for the brews jbeatty!

Jeffo, Jan 22, 2012
Pisgah Valdez from Pisgah Brewing Co.
92 out of 100 based on 300 ratings.