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Pisgah Valdez - Pisgah Brewing Co.

Pisgah ValdezPisgah Valdez

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

270 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 270
Reviews: 190
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 11.54%


Brewed by:
Pisgah Brewing Co. visit their website
North Carolina, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 12-02-2007)
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abedenbaugh

South Carolina

3.98/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Very dark brown pour with a brown head to match.
S: There is lots of coffee up front in the nose but no harshness. The coffe is a light roast. A little bit of sweetness.
T: A light roast coffee flavor. Some roast and dark chocolate. There is a little bit of tartness. Some woodsy and earthy flavors.
MF: Medium mouth feel and medium carbonation.
D: I really liked thie light roasted coffee in this beer. I would love to have this on tap at work instead of morning coffee. It reminded me a lot of drinking coffee, but at the same time it held on to everything that makes you know it's a beer.

Serving type: bottle

09-30-2008 19:06:11 | More by abedenbaugh
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maximum12

Minnesota

3.98/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to mikesgroove & ncvbc who offered me up bottles of this during the winter. Happy to try any coffee-upped stout, especially one with such a good rep. This one was bottled in September 2008. Bring me coffee!

Valdez is black, & very bubbly with a significant head on him. Smell is aggressively coffee as soon as the cork pops. Intersestingly, once it settles into the tulip, the nose simmers down quite a bit.

This is what coffee should taste like for those of us who don't dig it! The coffee taste is there, & fairly pronouned, but isn't drowning the baby beer behind it. The carbonation creates a definite bubbling in the mouth...other than that, I can't pick out anything in particular. It's just good. Weird. There's a solid body behind it of, well, something. And it's a good one.

All in all a very good beer. This one comes off as a beer that could be extreme, but's not, & that's just fine. Fits it's style alright.

Serving type: bottle

04-21-2009 01:41:07 | More by maximum12
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MasterSki

Illinois

3.98/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

September 2008 Vintage of Valdez, corked and caged. Thanks to Dave Schuster for this one. Served in the same weird-ass conic glass.

A - Tons of foam after a big pop when the cork was pulled. Very similar look to the Odell, with big foam, tons of lace, and a touch of transparent brown at the fringes of a dark brown/near-black body.

S - Still tons of coffee even after a year, roasted malts, cocoa, and a touch of dark chocolate. It's starting to smell a little soapy/dirty but otherwise it's still pretty good.

T - Taste is also a bit faded, but still has plenty of coffee and bittersweet chocolate, some roastiness, and a touch of dark fruit. Finish has a good amount of coffee bitterness

M - Mouthfeel is very smooth, lower carbonation, with a good amount of residual stickiness. Medium body that suits the lower ABV.

D - This is palate fatiguing with the bitterness and coffee flavors. Still the lower ABV makes it pretty drinkable.

I'd like to try a newer release to see how different this is when it is fresh.

Serving type: bottle

10-05-2009 15:24:05 | More by MasterSki
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CooperEllis

New York

3.98/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

In a trade w/ trev1179
22oz into DFH snifter, celler temp.

Deep dark brown on the edge of black, solid color with sligh feathering of color on the edges where it mixes with the bubbles. Slight head, thing lacing, both a bright tan.

Aroma is nice, light, some acrid coffee notes but otherwise pleasant with malt and coffee dominating, slight milk chocolate as well.

The flavor isn't long on malt, but there is some roasted malt some coffee and a touch of bitter chocolate. The taste alone isn't much to stand on, but the combination of the taste with a light but still creamy mouthfeel makes this more drinkable than the sum of those two characteristics.

Very light for a double stout, I wish the abv was slightly lower because I think this would become a frequently sought out 'toss in' in trades or coveted extra. As is, I'll be happy every time I see one show up.

(103rd)

Serving type: bottle

02-23-2011 00:41:32 | More by CooperEllis
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SPLITGRIN

Kentucky

3.99/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I was a bit disappointed to see that this beer had not been properly rated in nearly 3 months. So I pulled this bottle from the cellar to give it a go. This one has been in my cellar for about 6-8 months.

Even with the age I get almost three fingers of deep bread y brown head with a vigorous pour. It lasts a good bit and leaves a wall of lace behind as it slowly fades. Body is pure silky blackness as it should be.

Nose is of coffee distinctly up front. You also get a bit of earthy grain and tobacco to boot. A solid nose but not all that developed.

The flavor, well this is where things go a-rye. With first sip the stand out here is...sour. Yes it is apparent that there was a problem here in terms of infection. Shockingly enough however it really isn't bad. Although I know this beer was not meant to be a sour it plays the hand very well. Dark fruits are drawn from the coffee and almost come off like a Belgian dark ale. I have said this many times, some of the best beers come from accidents or brewery mistakes. The taste here is exciting and very nice. Tartness is complete and thorough across the palate.

Mouthfeel is a dry sour feel that is actually very good. The coffee plays a bit on the mouthfeel as well.

As it stands this is not what I expected at all. But it was a very pleasant surprise.

Serving type: bottle

03-06-2014 04:49:28 | More by SPLITGRIN
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nflmvp

Wisconsin

4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is the second time I've had this beer. The first time was out of a two week old growler and THAT was awesome.

This sample exhibited more head...three fingers worth. Slow to subside, it eventually came down to a creamy coffee film with some mild lacing down the glass.

Smell was very definitely java but I also get a good dose of cocoa out of this. Very enticing.

Taste was more coffee and dark chocolate along with some vanilla and wood.

Mouthfeel starts out a little prickly but as the beer warms and mellows, it mellows to a creaminess that isn't initially expected.

Drinkability is very nice as as this beer is not too big. It's a very enjoyable 750ml of jo.

Serving type: bottle

09-13-2008 03:30:36 | More by nflmvp
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largadeer

California

4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml bottle from mikesgroove, thanks Mike! Bottled in September '08.

Appearance: Into a wide-mouthed goblet, no coffee mug on hand unfortunately. A pitch black body with two fingers of dark tan foam. Head retention is great, leaving rings of lace as my glass empties. Great looking stuff.

Smell: Smells like a bag of freshly roasted coffee. There's a bit of roasted malt in there as well, but not much gets past the coffee aroma. I might be getting a hint of caramel as it warms, but maybe I'm trying too hard.

Taste & mouthfeel: Coffee. Pretty much just coffee. This doesn't so much taste like a coffee stout as it tastes like a cup of coffee with a little beer in it. Malt is faintly present, but this is very dry stuff. Fortunately for this beer it's got a great coffee character, like a freshly brewed shot of espresso, not overly bitter or acidic. The coffee flavor even lingers on throughout the dry finish, it's the first thing tasted and also the last. Is it one-dimensional? Maybe. Is it good? Definitely. I'm sure some people won't enjoy this, it really depends on how much you enjoy coffee. As for myself, I could drink a ton of this stuff and not get sick of it.

Serving type: bottle

09-23-2008 00:28:47 | More by largadeer
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Sammy

Ontario (Canada)

4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pisgah week, part 2,from Bruisin' Ales. Pours choclate brown and thickish looking with big chocolate head. Aroma is coffee, and chocolate. There is a lot of coffee in the taste, I am not a coffee drinker but appreciated what it was, and a stout very well integrated with coffee. Of course on the thicker mouthfeel side though still smooth, not a sipper. Like a 1.5 stout not a RIS.

Serving type: bottle

03-29-2009 01:37:27 | More by Sammy
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Overlord

California

4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 3.5

This will be a day long remembered. Enjoyed this brew with some generous BA'ers.

Poured a muted brown, big tan head. Pretty big head, actually, even when split three ways.

Smells like milk chocolate and coffee ... not really bitter coffee, or espresso, etc., just straight up roasted coffee. Maybe a bit of roasted malt in the aroma.

Taste is primarily coffee, with some roasted malt, and maybe a splash of coffee. This is a fairly straightforward beer. If there's anything unusual about it, it's the lively, well carbonated mouthfeel.

Thanks mikesgroove for the PISGAH!

Serving type: bottle

05-02-2009 06:41:23 | More by Overlord
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DosBeerigos

Florida

4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

C. UGGHH clarity...whats that?
H. Black
N. Coffee

Ok, so I've joked about beers tasting like coffee before...yah I was wrong, nothing I have ever had has tasted this much like coffee. This is an organic beer that uses Dynamite Roasting Coffee Beans, and boy oh boy does the coffee stick out on this beer. Seriously I think Miguel poured this bad boy out of my coffee pot. I like it a lot, and it's a very straight forward coffee stout.

Serving type: bottle

03-15-2010 20:55:14 | More by DosBeerigos
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urwithdave

Florida

4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Courtesy of TimmyP's life is good LIF. Shared this at the 110k release.

A- pours near black in color. There is two fingers wroth of a tan head. Decent retention. Not a lot of lacing though.

A- the BIGGEST coffee aroma I have ever gotten from a brew. Seriously, u could smell it from across the table. Espresso and coffee beans all the way.

T- well let's just say the nose isn't off. Just a huge burst of coffee and roasted malts. There is a slight hint of chocolate, but this is ALL about the coffee. Not overly bitter either. Its nice and smooth. If u aren't a coffee fan, don't bother.

M- this is where this one let me down. It was wayyy to thin. It was also too carbonated. These are my only real knocks on the brew.

D- if it wasn't for the mouthfeel I would rate this a 5 for sure. I still really enjoyed this brew and I would seek it out again in the future. A very solid coffee beer.

Serving type: bottle

05-30-2010 18:56:16 | More by urwithdave
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brewandbbq

New Hampshire

4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle from January 2009.

Pours opaque black with mahogany edging and a tight beige head. A partial skim coat and roped lacing throughout the glass.

Aromatics lead off with roasted malts, coffee grounds, bitter chocolate, and Oreo shells. A hint of char and smoke follow through.

Medium bodied with a slight chew. Thinnish for the style. The mouthfeel is soft and a bit creamy.

Brownie bits with espresso and chocolate malt start the palate. Medium roast coffee steps forward as well as bakers chocolate and a hint of Kahlua.

Finishes with shades of coffee, chocolate, and a bit of char.

Tasty enough, but I'm left wanting more of everything. The coffee character is a bit meekish and the stout base is rather average.

Serving type: bottle

02-28-2011 01:17:35 | More by brewandbbq
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babaracas

Florida

4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap at the Pisgah tasting room in a shaker pint. Black with thin medium brown head, spotty lace. Smell: big roasted coffee, roasted grain, toffee, a little green earthy hopping. Coffee forward, nice. Taste: caramel, coffee, booze. Nice. Light carbonation.

Serving type: on-tap

03-21-2011 05:21:52 | More by babaracas
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tdm168

North Carolina

4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - black with a thin brown head that has decent retention

S - coffee and roasted malts

T - also simply coffee and roasted malts

M - smooth, well carbonated, medium to full bodied

At first I was a bit disappointed that this was one-dimensional. Honestly, the one dimension is flavorful and enjoyable so I'm not mad about it. This is a nice coffee stout that you can enjoy on your own or share. I would have it again.

Serving type: bottle

11-21-2012 02:16:23 | More by tdm168
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srandycarter

California

4.03/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Dark ass pour, mocha head, thick, reduces to disk.

S - Lots of coffee and cocoa.

T - SO MUCH flavor. Hits all the buttons, but maybe a little bit unbalanced and too sweet.

M - Yes, cloying, at least a little.

D - Except for the unbalancing problem, pretty darned good!

Serving type: bottle

04-27-2009 03:23:58 | More by srandycarter
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TheManiacalOne

Rhode Island

4.03/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

September 2008 release acquired from mikesgroove courtesy of the Little Guy 2 BIF, so a big "Thank You" goes out to him. Poured from a 750ml bottle into a snifter glass.

A: The beer is a deep dark brown color, with a large light brown head that fades very slowly and leaves a thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma is of dark malts, black coffee, dark chocolate, some dark fruit and a faint touch of hops, but a bit of metallicness.

T: The taste is chocolaty and has a strong roasted malt character. There are background flavors of coffee and dark fruit. The hops presence is very mild but is exactly where it should be for the style and is strong enough to bring some balance. The after-taste is slightly sweet.

M: Crisp and very smooth, medium-to-heavy body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

D: Tasty, goes down very easily, slightly filling, good kick, nice representation of style, this is a very good dark beer to drink for an entire evening if you're in the mood for the style.

Serving type: bottle

08-20-2009 04:17:19 | More by TheManiacalOne
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joepais

Maine

4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Thanks to Santa Deuane for this one. Once I struggled to get the cork out of this bottle.
I poured the bottle into a snifter and it produced a two finger coco colored Head that seems to be lasting. The body of course was a big black bomb

The first thing I smelled was coffee and chocolate right from the pour. After a bit I got a little sour yeast but not much

Flavors are Coffee that is about it till it warms. Not as sweet as Oscura, but the mouthfeel reminded me of it. It is a little light in the feel for an Imperial but ample carbonation maybe to much. Back to the flavor a little sweetness from the malts keeps it from being to bitter. Then some dark chocolate comes out as it warms.

A good coffee stout I really think there should be a separate category for these. The number of them seems to be climbing. Good drinkability I finished the bomber with no problems at all. Took my time and enjoyed it on this cloudy afternoon thanks again Santa

Serving type: bottle

01-10-2009 22:13:37 | More by joepais
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HopHead84

California

4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

There's nothing quite like an Imperial Stout on a 65 degree day in Carlsbad under a 90 degree heat lamp. It's a strange experience, but I wouldn't recommend it. I felt as though my life's blood was being drained from my body, one ounce at a time. Thankfully I had this Pisgah beer to sustain me or I fear I might not have made it. Thanks a lot to Mike for my first Pisgah beer. To be perfectly honest, I've never traded for a beer from this brewery because the name of the brewery has subconsciously irritated me. I'm happy to finally try it though.

Pours nearly black with a one inch, light brown head. The head has good retention and leaves a smattering of lacing as it recedes.

The aroma is dominated by dark chocolate and coffee with some cocoa. It smells quite nice. A low level of alcohol is noticeable. The taste is much like the aroma, centered on dark chocolate and coffee. Though I'm not an avid fan of coffee dominated stouts, this is quite good. There's a medium level of bitterness to the beer, but the hops have really no say in the rich flavor. No alcohol is noticeable, and considering the low percentage (imperial stout?) it's not surprising.

Full bodied with a nice level of carbonation.

Serving type: bottle

05-02-2009 07:42:48 | More by HopHead84
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barleywinefiend

Washington

4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Solomon420 for hooking me up.

Poured a deep, deep brown with a massive tannish head and great carbonation. Nose is chocolate, coffee, grains. Taste is is very similar to most organic brews, with a big earthiness, grain, coffee, chocolate. Mouthfeel is nice and coating but lacking a bit on the coffee department and not that creamy.

Serving type: bottle

08-16-2009 03:26:34 | More by barleywinefiend
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ClockworkOrange

Pennsylvania

4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Deuane for hauling this back from NC for me. A 2008 vintage corked 750ml bottle poured into my standard shaker glass. The stout appears a translucent dark chestnut color with an inch of creamy ecru colored foam. The head settles to a thin ring and remains until the glass is empty. Nose and flavor consist of medium roasted coffee beans, slightly sour and acidic espresso, quite earthy, nice molasses and caramel sweetness, bitter black coffee, baking chocolate. Maybe a notch better than medium bodied with adequate carbonation. I would have preferred a fuller body, but it's still pretty nice.

Serving type: bottle

08-31-2009 16:27:14 | More by ClockworkOrange
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htomsirveaux

Texas

4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750 mL bottle tried 23 Jun 2009. Trade from mikesgroove, thanks for the opportunity!

Poured in a 0.4 L Steiner Pils snifter. Thick, tight, medium sized light brown head. Medium carbonation. Beer looks like black ink. Aroma of super dark chocolate, cocoa, espresso, deep dark and roasty. Body is light and effervescent. Coffee and chocolate dance on the tongue like cocoa pop rocks. Lots of roasted malts, chocolate and coffee bitterness throughout. Somewhat sweeter in the finish. Mild ethanol.

Tasty, would have liked just a touch more body to this.

Serving type: bottle

01-29-2010 23:33:11 | More by htomsirveaux
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Azurescens

Washington

4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22oz bottle with no bottled on or freshness date poured into Maudite stemmed glass, reviewed on 4/27/11

A: Pours black with dark tan head and moderate retention. The head fades to a collar and leaves some lacing around glass.

S: Smooth freshly roasted coffee up front with dark malt and a hint of chocolate lingering behind the huge coffee aroma. Lots and lots of coffee, if I were to take a blind sniff of this I would definitely think this was a cup of coffee instead of a beer.

T: Bitter roasted coffee dominates the taste with dark malts and some hops and alcohol barely coming through all of the coffee. Long lingering taste of freshly brewed coffee after each sip.

M: Nice medium body with a bit more carbonation than I would really like in a stout.

O: If you want lots of coffee in your stout, this is the beer to go for. Pretty drinkable for a 6.8% ABV brew. Some more body and less carbonation would do wonders for this beer. Still great none the less.

Serving type: bottle

04-28-2011 03:07:29 | More by Azurescens
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Ivanhoes_Backpack

New Brunswick (Canada)

4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Picked up a bottle of this and Vortex II in Asheville when I was there in August.

A - dark, almost pitch black, with a off-white head which leaves a nice rim

S - pure coffee, lots of chocolate, had a Founder's Breakfast Stout the next day and the smell was pretty on par with that

T - coffee, chocolate, a bit of tartness up front that maybe shouldn't be there, but pretty subtle, nice semi-dry bitterness on finish

M - maybe a little bit thinner than I expected, tingles the sides of my tongue a bit

O - a beauty coffee stout. Despite having a little age on it the beer still held up well. I assume it would be even better fresh, but as it is, it's one of the nicer coffee stouts I've had in a while

Serving type: bottle

12-17-2013 18:48:11 | More by Ivanhoes_Backpack
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dukedevil0

Illinois

4.08/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Big thanks to mikesgroove for sending me this 750mL bottle in a trade recently.

A: Pours dark black with a TON and I wish I could stress it more...a TON of khaki colored head (seriously looked like a beer float but no ice cream) and laced the glass a lot as it settled.

S: The dominant smell is chocolate, then roasted malts and coffee in the background...not complex or anything, but smells absolutely delicious and I hope the taste is similar

T: Roasted malts come out way more in the taste, then the coffee and chocolate are in the background this time.

M: I think far too much of the carbonation went out in the pour on this because what's left is a little more thin than I would expect. I even poured carefully so I dunno how to fix this. I get hints of creaminess when the carbonation stands out.

D: Because it's a little thin I could probably drink more than some creamy beers, but the flavor isn't really anything special to me unfortunately. Not really any alcohol picked up which is good. It tastes just like the majority of imperial stouts do. Now, that isn't all bad, because imperial stouts taste good, this just doesn't stand out above other examples of the style.

Serving type: bottle

08-16-2009 02:13:55 | More by dukedevil0
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sulldaddy

Connecticut

4.08/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Sampling at room temperatrue poured into a snifter. The beer pours a dark cocoa brown with foamy tan head of 3cm even with a gentle pour. Aroma is lite coffee grounds and roasted malt. Some brown sugar mixed in the background. Predominantly a roasty nose. First sip reveals an average body with silky smooth texture and mild rolling carbonation. Flavor is sweet malt and roasty with again brown sugar. A little coffee bite but no hops or ABV show up for this dance. Very easy smooth drinking beer. Aftertaste lingers for a little bit but then is gone, maybe a little chalky on the finish. OVerall a nice beer that isnt amazingly robust but does drink easy and taste good.

Serving type: bottle

11-03-2009 18:41:47 | More by sulldaddy
Pisgah Valdez from Pisgah Brewing Co.
92 out of 100 based on 270 ratings.