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Pisgah Valdez - Pisgah Brewing Co.

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Pisgah ValdezPisgah Valdez

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

294 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 294
Reviews: 193
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 11.3%
Wants: 177
Gots: 19 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Pisgah Brewing Co. visit their website
North Carolina, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 12-02-2007)
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Photo of oberon
4.33/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I was glad to try this,had three at Barley's yesterday afternoon.Poured a jet black with tight formed mocha colored head that settled nicely into a creamy top.French roast coffee and bitter chocolate dominate the aromas,the coffee really hits home nicely.Flavors are also dominate by French roast coffee and bitter chocolate,but there is some molasses-like flavor to lend sweetness as well as a bit of earth in the finish.Very nicely done,heavy roast but enough sweetness to make it complete,well done.

oberon, Apr 20, 2010
Photo of Mavajo
4.53/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 2 | overall: 4.5

Extremely interesting brew. Had on tap at Barley's Pizzeria in Asheville - pint glass serving.

The pour is near-black with a 2-finger thick brown head. The bubbles in this head are huge, which to me isn't preferable - I prefer a creamier or finer looking head. Minimal lacing. As you near the end of your glass, you can catch some brown almost garnett hues around the edges.

The nose is pure joy - HUGE coffee presence. In fact, that's almost all you can get. Perhaps there's some chocolate notes there, but this coffee aroma is powerful. Fortunately, the taste follows up the aroma to perfection - again, massive coffee notes in the taste. Unlike some other coffee-dominated beers, Valdez avoids being overly roasted or bitter. It's extremely tasty with a nice sweetness.

The mouthfeel, however, is a bit of a disappointment. It's smooth and appropriately carbonated, but much too thin. When a beer is this dark, with a taste and aroma this dominant, I want a thick body to follow up that intensity. Valdez doesn't provide that.

All in all, this is an extremely tasty brew. Although I'm disappointed by the thin body, it does make it probable that you could enjoy a number of these in one sitting. One of my favorite coffee beers to date.

Mavajo, Apr 14, 2010
Photo of farrago
4.3/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

You get two fingers of head, profuse amount of larger bubbles has it dissolving quickly, very deep tan color, minimal stickiness to the lacing. The liquid is 100% black, not a hint of color to be found. The nose smells like a Starbucks at 8:00 AM, coffee, coffee, coffee fills the air, the heavy roast extends to the dark chocolate, toasted coconut accents, dollop of plum and cherry fruit scents, one assumes hops were used in the creation of this brew but nothing evident in the nose. Full-bodied, curiously foamy mouth entry, albeit the carbonation trails off after that. Heavily roasted espresso dominates, bitter and oily, forms a thick cloud of perfume in the mouth. Bittersweet dark chocolate, honey, uncooked oatmeal, what really saves the beer is the underlying sweetness and semi-creamy texture, it gives you breathing room to enjoy the coffee without excessive bitterness. As with many beers of such tight focus, if you agree with the vibe it'll knock your socks off, if not, after one glass you'll get bored.

farrago, Mar 29, 2010
Photo of DosBeerigos
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

C. UGGHH clarity...whats that?
H. Black
N. Coffee

Ok, so I've joked about beers tasting like coffee before...yah I was wrong, nothing I have ever had has tasted this much like coffee. This is an organic beer that uses Dynamite Roasting Coffee Beans, and boy oh boy does the coffee stick out on this beer. Seriously I think Miguel poured this bad boy out of my coffee pot. I like it a lot, and it's a very straight forward coffee stout.

DosBeerigos, Mar 15, 2010
Photo of CBlack85
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

On tap at Duckworths in Charlotte.

Beer is completely black with just a trace of a tan head. What little head was there dissipates quickly and leaves no trace behind.

The nose is of straight coffee, with just a hint of chocolate as it warms.

The taste, much like the smell, is that of coffe. There is a little more chocolate present in the taste than in the smell, but the coffee is dominant. Very robust and flavorful, you can tell that the coffee used during brewing is very good on its own. Medium bodied, slightly more carbination than I expected, but not enough to distract you from the beautiful flavors of this well brewed beer.

Very nice, the guys at Pisgah really know what they are doing...

CBlack85, Mar 10, 2010
Photo of Tilley4
4.13/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

I've been wanting to try this one for a few years now and finally broke down and acquired a bottle...

Poured into a Chimay goblet...

Pours a 98% black with only a little brown showing around the edges when I hold the goblet up to the light... This brew forms a good head at first but that quickly dies down to leave just a little wispy one.. Not bad at all...

Huge pungent aromas of dark chocolate and dark roasted coffee beans that have been freshly ground... I have a Keurig coffeemaker and there's a brand of coffee that is super dark and rich and when its brewing it smells just like this beer... Very pungent and dark smelling with notes of what might be a little smokiness like a good smoked porter might have...

Loads of very dark roasted malts and coffee beans up front here... It's not hugely complex but I think that this is the sort of beer that doesn't have to be... You know what you're getting when you buy it.. It's a coffee stout first and foremost..

The mouthfeel leaves quite a bit to be desired here... This is basically a coffee porter if judged by the mouthfeel here... It isnt in the same class in this category with the other brews of the style...

Even with the thin mouthfeel, I still liked this one quite a bit... It's very drinkable and tasty and I'm very glad I got to give this one a shot... Would I purchase this one again? Hmmm.. hard to say.. I'd like to try it on tap sometime and do a comparison... The thin mouthfeel here sort of mars this one in my opinion...

Tilley4, Mar 06, 2010
Photo of SaCkErZ9
4.2/5  rDev +1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Served on draft at Duckworths in N Charlotte for $2.50 a pint. Great deal!

Comes to the bar pitch black. A very small tan head is present but then leaves completely. I was disappointed in the appearance of this one. Kind of looks like a cup of coffee in the glass. Actually, it smells like it too.

Aroma is full of coffee. I love it! Not a whole lot else is going on. Mild, freshly brewed coffee seems to be the dominating aroma.

Tastes like coffee as well. The coffee seems somwhat subdued but is certainly the focal point of this one. A bit of fruitiness and roasted grains penetrate the coffee blanket but lack the tenacity to make themselves completely known.

I really dug this one. It was served around 50F or so and as it warmed, it got better. I could drink this one at room temp. A bit thick on the tongue. Quite creamy. So delicious.

Note: This one is only 6.7% abv so how it is considered an Imperial Stout is beyond me. This one drinks like a stout and has the abv of a stout. The abv is very well hidden, however.

SaCkErZ9, Feb 23, 2010
Photo of sholland119
4.68/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I first tried this beer in a bottle and, while I liked it, I had no idea what all the fuss was about. But after trying this on tap at Barley's in Asheville on 2/5, the scales have fallen from my eyes.

A-Pours black as night, deep and opaque with a thin tan head and good sticky lacing.

S-A blast of fresh roasted coffee starts things off, with some nice roasted malt and cocoa behind it.

T-Delicious. Starts with a delicious roastiness, follow by a nutty maltiness, finishing with a crisp bitter hop burst and more roasted coffee. Plenty of coffee flavor but still tastes like a beer. Outstanding.

M-Medium bodied with a nice lingering finish.

D-Yes, please I would like many more. Outstanding!

HV

sholland119, Feb 19, 2010
Photo of GbVDave
4.47/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 22oz bottle into multiple glasses.

A: Pours a deep, tarry, black. Dark espresso crema colored head on top doesn't retain for very long, but leaves a little lace behind.

S: Holy crap! This smells just like chocolate covered espresso beans. Also along for the ride is blackened malt, dark fruit, and even more coffee and chocolate.

T: See above...nothing else to say.

M: Extremely coating, much like the oil spill from its' namesake oil tanker.

D: A scarily excellent coffee stout. Whew!

GbVDave, Feb 13, 2010
Photo of htomsirveaux
4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750 mL bottle tried 23 Jun 2009. Trade from mikesgroove, thanks for the opportunity!

Poured in a 0.4 L Steiner Pils snifter. Thick, tight, medium sized light brown head. Medium carbonation. Beer looks like black ink. Aroma of super dark chocolate, cocoa, espresso, deep dark and roasty. Body is light and effervescent. Coffee and chocolate dance on the tongue like cocoa pop rocks. Lots of roasted malts, chocolate and coffee bitterness throughout. Somewhat sweeter in the finish. Mild ethanol.

Tasty, would have liked just a touch more body to this.

htomsirveaux, Jan 29, 2010
Photo of runningjoke
4.72/5  rDev +13.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Poured into tulip glass.
Looked like a glass full of obsidian. It barely let's the light through, shows just a touch of garnet around the edges. Head formed thick but disappeared quickly.
Smelled of black coffee and dark roasted malts.
It tasted exactly as it smelled, only a touch of bitter chocalate was detected. Nothing to complex, just a straight forward beer.
Moves through the mouth quickly. But the flavor lingers.
This is so easy drinking. For someone who drinks coffee black, this is a special treat for me. I had this on tap at the brewery while sloshed, but was impressed enough to take a few home for later.

runningjoke, Jan 15, 2010
Photo of koopa
4.13/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22oz Bomber Bottled January 09' Consumed January 10'

Appearance: Pours an attractive deep dark brown with a 2 finger light brown crown that shows some retention and lace.

Smell: Chocolate malt, mellowed coffee, roast malt.

Taste: More coffee than chocolate (opposite of nose) and the finish actually tastes like cream! My mind screams "iced coffee" over and over!

Mouthfeel: A touch thick but mighty slick too. Carbonation is ultra fine and comes into play about 2/3 of the way through the swallow.

Drinkability: Easy living!

koopa, Jan 08, 2010
Photo of drunkboxer1
4.1/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at the brewery. Deep brown in color, tan head. Smells like and espresso or something. From the smell I was expecting some serious coffee flavor when I tasted it. However, it's not as harsh as I thought it would be. Besides some malty sweetness, maybe a little chocolate, it comes off as a bubbly iced coffee. Little to no hop bitterness, but a good amount of coffee bitterness. I enjoyed this one a good bit. Probably would go well with ice cream or something. Don't really get why it's listed here as a imperial stout, but whatever.

drunkboxer1, Dec 30, 2009
Photo of paco1029384756
4.28/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle thanks to Kegatron.

Pours black with a large foamy white head, taking a good amount of time to settle completely; a beautiful beer.

Scent of mild bitter coffee, oatmeal, cinnamon, chocolate, and brown sugar. After nearly a year, the coffee is still present but fading.

Taste of chocolate, oatmeal, coffee, roasted malts, brown sugar and toffee. Finishes with a bitter chocolate and coffee flavor. Not as potent as it was when it was fresh, but I could drink this all day long even now.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied with a biting carbonation.

paco1029384756, Dec 26, 2009
Photo of mothman
3.63/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a snifter.

Pours a mocha tan head. Fades down quickly leaving no lace. Color is a deep brown, basically black.

Aroma: Nice coffee aroma, roasted malt, chocolate, grassy hops. I like the aroma a lot.

Taste: Tons of carbonation. Coffee and mocha flavors. Chocolate, cocoa, and earthy hops as well. I don't get a lot of flavors however, because of all the carbonation bubbles.

Mouthfeel: Over carbonated with a medium to full body. Creamy, but fizzy. Ends very dry. Not a fan of this.

Overall, this could be a lot better if there wasn't too much carbonation. I like the coffee flavors, but not something I'd go crazy for.

mothman, Dec 25, 2009
Photo of Mauerhan
4.43/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Cracked open on dark passenger Sunday, Reviewed from notes.

Pours dark chocolate brown with a plentiful two finger foamy head sitting up top that has some good retention on it. Leaves a good amount of lacing.

Smell is FANTASTIC! Rich chocolate and roasted sweet coffee. More rich tones come out as this bad boy warms up. Seriously this is how coffee stouts are supposed to smell.

I was expecting this to kick me in the teeth with coffee but I was surprised by the taste I got. well balanced coffee and cream with cocoa shavings. Very Nice.

Mouth is creamy and very easy to drink. As I reached the end of the glass I was a little turned off by the cloudy amount of sediment I was given even from a very gentle pour. But really that is one of the only things I wasn't big on. I would LOVE more of this. A very well done coffee stout. By all means worth a look.

Mauerhan, Dec 05, 2009
Photo of TurdFurgison
4.38/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a Pisgah bomber, in my possession since DLD this year, capped not corked. The label shows it's organic which doesn't really matter to me at all. The beer was dark brown chocolate color with a thick off-white foam that lasted forever. I figured the coffee aroma/taste would be lost in this old bottle but it came through nicely. The java smell is actually complementary to some malts that are more sweet than roasted in character, together the malts and coffee come off very close to Founders Breakfast Stout. Same with the taste, I found this to taste a bit like an aged FBS (which is a good thing, I've had some old FBS that was better than the new stuff). The body is on the thick side which suits the style, overall a very fine coffee stout that I'd love to get again.

TurdFurgison, Nov 07, 2009
Photo of sulldaddy
4.08/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Sampling at room temperatrue poured into a snifter. The beer pours a dark cocoa brown with foamy tan head of 3cm even with a gentle pour. Aroma is lite coffee grounds and roasted malt. Some brown sugar mixed in the background. Predominantly a roasty nose. First sip reveals an average body with silky smooth texture and mild rolling carbonation. Flavor is sweet malt and roasty with again brown sugar. A little coffee bite but no hops or ABV show up for this dance. Very easy smooth drinking beer. Aftertaste lingers for a little bit but then is gone, maybe a little chalky on the finish. OVerall a nice beer that isnt amazingly robust but does drink easy and taste good.

sulldaddy, Nov 03, 2009
Photo of MasterSki
3.98/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

September 2008 Vintage of Valdez, corked and caged. Thanks to Dave Schuster for this one. Served in the same weird-ass conic glass.

A - Tons of foam after a big pop when the cork was pulled. Very similar look to the Odell, with big foam, tons of lace, and a touch of transparent brown at the fringes of a dark brown/near-black body.

S - Still tons of coffee even after a year, roasted malts, cocoa, and a touch of dark chocolate. It's starting to smell a little soapy/dirty but otherwise it's still pretty good.

T - Taste is also a bit faded, but still has plenty of coffee and bittersweet chocolate, some roastiness, and a touch of dark fruit. Finish has a good amount of coffee bitterness

M - Mouthfeel is very smooth, lower carbonation, with a good amount of residual stickiness. Medium body that suits the lower ABV.

D - This is palate fatiguing with the bitterness and coffee flavors. Still the lower ABV makes it pretty drinkable.

I'd like to try a newer release to see how different this is when it is fresh.

MasterSki, Oct 05, 2009
Photo of rudylaw
3.75/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Another gem from MasterSki, sampled at the CE release. Hey, my GTOM taster is filled again... let's drink!

Pours a blackish tone with some brownish, ruby highlights. We have a solid tan head here.

Even though this is a 2008 bottle, I'm still getting tons of coffee in the nose. Very aromatic. Roasty, chocolatey goodness.

Same notes on the tongue, with some oatmeal perhaps, but this is really thin. Not a prototypical RIS by any stretch. The coffee is faded a bit, and we agree we'd like to try this one fresh for a proper rating in the future. Doesn't seem too complex. Straightforward coffee stout. Almost over-carbonated. I liked it a bit more at the beginning, but got bored with it at the end.

My second Pisgah beer, and while still quality, I'm not really keen on going out of my way for a third.

rudylaw, Oct 04, 2009
Photo of ffejherb
4.43/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Dispensed via growler on 9/28/09. Thanks to Deuane for procuring this for me during a recent trip to Asheville, NC.

A - This stout is one shade away from plummeting into the void of utter darkness. A thin, tan cap sits on top, but dispersed into a wispy veil that eventually disappeared, leaving behind only spots of lace.

S - Freshly ground coffee beans. Pure and simple. As Valdez warmed up, hints of tobacco and subtle leafy hop notes also emerged. Some chocolate and tar-like gunk (in a good way) also creeped out from underneath the coffee beans. For some strange reason, I also got a subtle waft of garage. Yes, garage.

T - Again, coffee dominates with an iced coffee character and abumdance of roasty flavor. Subtle hints of chocolate, tar and tobacco also emerge, but this stout is all about that little dark brown bean.

M - Medium bodied with an icy, watery texture, a little thin perhaps, and very softly carbonated. Finishes with coffee bitterness and mild astringency on the palate.

D - Juan would be proud that this fine coffee stout shares his namesake. Of course, maybe he doesn't drink beer. Well, he does now! This is some serious competition for Planet Bean. Never heard of it? Seek it out!

ffejherb, Sep 29, 2009
Photo of charlesw
3.78/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Beautiful offblack with tiny dark tan bubbles in a medium high head. Good lasting power on that head.

Smells a lot of dryer chocolates - cocoa powder.

There's more going on than just the chocolate. Light, a little hop tang, the chocolate, of course, but not as a bitter dry one. Hints of coffee.

Light in the mouth for a double. More like a coffee or chocolate porter given the alcohol and body.

Decent and light and easy enough for drinking on warmer days. Rich enough for drinking on cooler days. Not bad!

charlesw, Sep 24, 2009
Photo of ClockworkOrange
4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Deuane for hauling this back from NC for me. A 2008 vintage corked 750ml bottle poured into my standard shaker glass. The stout appears a translucent dark chestnut color with an inch of creamy ecru colored foam. The head settles to a thin ring and remains until the glass is empty. Nose and flavor consist of medium roasted coffee beans, slightly sour and acidic espresso, quite earthy, nice molasses and caramel sweetness, bitter black coffee, baking chocolate. Maybe a notch better than medium bodied with adequate carbonation. I would have preferred a fuller body, but it's still pretty nice.

ClockworkOrange, Aug 31, 2009
Photo of TheManiacalOne
4.03/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

September 2008 release acquired from mikesgroove courtesy of the Little Guy 2 BIF, so a big "Thank You" goes out to him. Poured from a 750ml bottle into a snifter glass.

A: The beer is a deep dark brown color, with a large light brown head that fades very slowly and leaves a thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma is of dark malts, black coffee, dark chocolate, some dark fruit and a faint touch of hops, but a bit of metallicness.

T: The taste is chocolaty and has a strong roasted malt character. There are background flavors of coffee and dark fruit. The hops presence is very mild but is exactly where it should be for the style and is strong enough to bring some balance. The after-taste is slightly sweet.

M: Crisp and very smooth, medium-to-heavy body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

D: Tasty, goes down very easily, slightly filling, good kick, nice representation of style, this is a very good dark beer to drink for an entire evening if you're in the mood for the style.

TheManiacalOne, Aug 20, 2009
Photo of barleywinefiend
4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Solomon420 for hooking me up.

Poured a deep, deep brown with a massive tannish head and great carbonation. Nose is chocolate, coffee, grains. Taste is is very similar to most organic brews, with a big earthiness, grain, coffee, chocolate. Mouthfeel is nice and coating but lacking a bit on the coffee department and not that creamy.

barleywinefiend, Aug 16, 2009
Pisgah Valdez from Pisgah Brewing Co.
92 out of 100 based on 294 ratings.