Pisgah Valdez - Pisgah Brewing Co.

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Pisgah ValdezPisgah Valdez

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92
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310 Ratings
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Ratings: 310
Reviews: 195
rAvg: 4.14
pDev: 11.84%
Wants: 179
Gots: 19 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Pisgah Brewing Co. visit their website
North Carolina, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 12-02-2007)
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Photo of MasterSki
3.98/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

September 2008 Vintage of Valdez, corked and caged. Thanks to Dave Schuster for this one. Served in the same weird-ass conic glass.

A - Tons of foam after a big pop when the cork was pulled. Very similar look to the Odell, with big foam, tons of lace, and a touch of transparent brown at the fringes of a dark brown/near-black body.

S - Still tons of coffee even after a year, roasted malts, cocoa, and a touch of dark chocolate. It's starting to smell a little soapy/dirty but otherwise it's still pretty good.

T - Taste is also a bit faded, but still has plenty of coffee and bittersweet chocolate, some roastiness, and a touch of dark fruit. Finish has a good amount of coffee bitterness

M - Mouthfeel is very smooth, lower carbonation, with a good amount of residual stickiness. Medium body that suits the lower ABV.

D - This is palate fatiguing with the bitterness and coffee flavors. Still the lower ABV makes it pretty drinkable.

I'd like to try a newer release to see how different this is when it is fresh.

Photo of mendvicdog
3/5  rDev -27.5%

Photo of drabmuh
4.18/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by the other Matt recently. Thanks other Matt, this was a medium list want of mine.

Beer is black and opaque with a thin tan head that leaves a lot of lacing on the glass. Head has moderate retention to it.

Aroma is roasty, mildly sweet and uncomplex. Smells like a big stout.

MMMM....sweet stout. Beer is medium in body and fills out the palate nice, coating the mouth with a strong feeling of sweetness with some chocolate flavors and some moderate bitterness at the finish. Coffee and roast are distinctive in the finish. I was surprised how sweet and chocolaty this beer was. A very nice beer overall.

Photo of mactrail
3.53/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Cold coffee in your cup.

Very attractive brownish foam on chestnut colored beer. Modestly fragrant with coffee. Medium body. I keep thinking of Hostess cream-filled chocolate cupcakes. Coffee flavor is main thing, much like Kahlua liqueur. Just a touch of black patent malt sourness. Some sweetness. Vanilla malt on the lips. Hops not very strong.

Tastes stronger than it apparently is. Flavor gets tiresome after a few swallows, but it's certainly one of the better coffee flavors.

Photo of DrunkinYogi
4.25/5  rDev +2.7%

Photo of Rochefort10nh
5/5  rDev +20.8%

Photo of GClarkage
4/5  rDev -3.4%

Photo of orangesol
4.25/5  rDev +2.7%

Photo of imperialking
4/5  rDev -3.4%

Photo of dbrauneis
4.38/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A: Pours an opaque yet clear jet black in color with minimal amounts of gentle visible carbonation along the surface of the beer and moderate amounts of cola brown highlights at the edges.

S: Strong aromas of slightly sweet coffee/espresso - like one that has cream and sugar added to it. Very light notes of roasted malts and just a hint of chocolate.

T: Upfront there is a light flavor of roasted and slightly ashy malts that is followed by strong flavors of coffee/espresso - reminds me of a cuban coffee with milk and sugar. Moderate amounts of bitterness which lingers for quite awhile.

M: Medium bodied with moderate to heavy amounts of carbonation. Smooth, almost creamy.

O: If you enjoy coffee, this is a beer that you really need to try... I love coffee and I really enjoy this one. Super easy to drink with well hidden alcohol. Definitely my favorite beer from this brewery.

Photo of duceswild
2/5  rDev -51.7%

Photo of stakem
3.5/5  rDev -15.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Thanks to Psycohops for sharing on 1/22/11.

This bomber was dated Jan '09 and it was poured into a snifter. It appears a dark brown color with lighter brown around the edges. A finger of big bubbly head appears and slowly recedes. Quite a creamy looking head that leaves plenty of lace about the glass. A swirl revived more than a finger of head.

The smell of this brew is coffee mostly with some citrus bean and earthy components. A little bit of musty grain is evident along with a characteristic that seems quite nutty.

The taste is citrusy from seemingly a combination of hops and coffee beans. A light twangy aspect of alcohol is evident along with a musty grain flavor. Roasty with chocolate and coffee throughout. A note of slight oxidation is present.

This is a medium bodied brew with an aggressive level of carbonation that is fizzy, bubbly and prickly on the tongue. Overall quite earthy and drinkable. There is seemingly no indication of alcohol in this brew. For a coffee offering that was 2 years old, I was impressed that it didn't seem to drop out much. I wonder if coffee character that drops out in some brews is the product of different means of adding the coffee that was brewed or aging over beans. Regardless, I'd like to try this one fresh to have a comparison.

Photo of corby112
4.65/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours pitch black with faint mahogany edges and a one finger beige head that immediately fades into a thin ring.  Sporadic spots of lacing left behind.  
Rosted coffee bean aroma with lots of dark roasted malt and coffee presence. Gourmet coffee is prominent with a nice roastiness without smelling overdone or burnt.  Hints of hazelnut, toffee, chocolate and toast.  Slight liactic cream presence.  

Medium bodied with a blast of smooth, deep roasted coffee that dominates the flavor but never becomes overpowering, abrasive, acrid or burnt.  Hints of hazelnut and toffee as well as some bittersweet dark chocolate and a slight lactic creaminess that balances things out while adding to the palate.  Perfectly balanced and extremely quaffable.  One of the best coffee beer I've had.  

Photo of Georgiabeer
4.33/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I had this beer quite awhile ago and I'm just now getting around to reviewing it. Thanks very much to Brickstoredave and RustyDiamond for the chance to try it. I'm a big fan of the bigger beers from Pisgah, and this beer doesn't disappoint. It's very good. That being said, It's not my absolute favorite RIS, or even coffee stout, but it is very nice.

Pours black with fairly light carbonation and head- I'll chalk that up to the growler. The aroma is all coffee, coffee, coffee, with just a touch of dry malt in the background to support the coffee. This is very much a black coffee tasting stout- no cream here to lighten the experience. As much as I like that, I think a little creaminess brings out more of the chocolate notes found in coffee and balances some of the acids and tannins. The flavor has some of those nice chocolate and earthy characteristics of a good cup of Sumatra, and obviously good quality coffee was used. I'm always amazed at coffee and chocolate stouts that skimp on the quality of these additions- they should be the best available. There is a slight burst of acidity at the finish that I ould have wanted to see a bit tempered, but overall more flavors of laser like coffee. A bit of a one-note wonder, but what a nice note! Very smooth and drinkable and the coffee flavors are huge, but the overall body could be a bit more robust and the flavors could be a bit more varied, otherwise its another success from this great brewery.

Photo of mothman
3.63/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a snifter.

Pours a mocha tan head. Fades down quickly leaving no lace. Color is a deep brown, basically black.

Aroma: Nice coffee aroma, roasted malt, chocolate, grassy hops. I like the aroma a lot.

Taste: Tons of carbonation. Coffee and mocha flavors. Chocolate, cocoa, and earthy hops as well. I don't get a lot of flavors however, because of all the carbonation bubbles.

Mouthfeel: Over carbonated with a medium to full body. Creamy, but fizzy. Ends very dry. Not a fan of this.

Overall, this could be a lot better if there wasn't too much carbonation. I like the coffee flavors, but not something I'd go crazy for.

Photo of barleywinefiend
4.05/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Solomon420 for hooking me up.

Poured a deep, deep brown with a massive tannish head and great carbonation. Nose is chocolate, coffee, grains. Taste is is very similar to most organic brews, with a big earthiness, grain, coffee, chocolate. Mouthfeel is nice and coating but lacking a bit on the coffee department and not that creamy.

Photo of Huhzubendah
4.48/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle from hobbie100. Thanks Richard!

I shared this with some good friends while watching football. Good times.

A: Valdez appears deep, dark brown in color with a half inch of beige head. The head displays good retention and leaves some nice lacing on the glass.

S: Fabulous aroma, primarily of coffee, followed by roasted malt and chocolates.

T: The taste was also terrific. Valdez is all about the coffee. The flavor is robust and grand, with a variety of chocolates and roasted malt emerging behind the dominant coffee taste.

M: Smooth and creamy with a healthy level of carbonation. Well done.

D: A superb example of a coffee stout. I highly recommend Pisgah Valdez.

Photo of akorsak
4.6/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 5

A growler shared with Deuane, ClockworkOrange and JohnnyM2002 among others.

A: The stout is a dark cola brown color, almost indistinguishable from black. The growler, despite being wrapped in electrical tape, had lost a good bit of carbonation, so little if any head arose on the multiple pours.

S: The nose is a delicious coffee aroma, a chocolate infused aroma with touches of acrid bitterness. The beer is basically coffee with touches of stout added for good measure. The aroma is tough to beat.

T: The first sip is a rich coffee blast. The java flavor in this beer is damned near the strongest that I've had (and I've had Coffee Bender, Central Waters Coffee Stout and WnB). There is little to suggest that this is a stout, the focus throughout is the deliciously bitter coffee flavor. The coffee flavor lingers long after the sip is gone. And did I mention that the stout has a strong coffee flavor?

M: The coffee flavor is strong but beyond that the taste is rather thin. There is little stout body to back up the arabica beans. A vinous finish would have sealed the deal as a beer d'ambrosia.

D: I stayed close to this growler for as long as it lasted. If you like coffee in your stout, this is a must try.

EDIT:
A second growler resulted in a much thicker, fuller head. The subtle stout flavors also became more evident through the coffee. As a result, Appearance went from 4 to 4.5 and Drinkability went from 4 to 4.5.

Photo of rhoadsrage
3.58/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a snifter)

A- This beer pours a jet black cocoa color with a tan head that boils away after a bit. There is a few tiny bubbles that glide up the side of the glass.

S- The ground coffee has a light breakfast roast quality with some earthy oat note in the finish.

T- The ground coffee has a slightly tart note and a fruity ester quality in the coffee's finish. There is a vegital capsicum flavor without any heat in the finish. A light inky hint lingers on the lips. As the beer warms there is a soft mellow black malt quality that comes through in the finish.

M- This beer has a medium-light mouthfeel with a tight fizz that scrubs the finish and no real alcohol.

O- This beer has some nice mellow coffee flavors but not much stout support and it finishes a bit vegital. As the beer warms the coffee takes on a bit of a stale quality.

Photo of brandoman63
4.75/5  rDev +14.7%

Photo of Wasatch
4.33/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks goes out to injuredreserve for this brew.

22oz. Bomber

Pours a very nice black color, nice carbonation, with a nice one-finger creamy light tan head, with some nice sticky lacing left behind. The nose is malty, with some nice chocolate/coffee notes, with some nice licorice/vanilla notes. The taste is really nice, malty, very nice chocolate/coffee notes, and some nice sweetness from the vanilla note. Medium body, has a nice creamyness to this Imp. Stout. Very Drinkable, a nice surprise.

Photo of chinchill
4.3/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Strongly flavored coffee stout. Sampled at the brewery.

A- very dark black pour with a tan head. Exceptionally durable beige head.

S - coffee! [4.25]

T- Stronger coffee flavor than any of the few other coffee stouts or porters I've sampled. Somewhat lacking in complexity: imagine a very fine stout + a cold expresso. Excellent sweet/bitter balance.

M: smooth [4.25]

D - an excellent brew best imbibed slowly in many small sips.

{revisited at brewery in Sept. 2012 -- high ratings generally confirmed, but felt it was a tad over carbonated this time}

Photo of tdm168
4/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - black with a thin brown head that has decent retention

S - coffee and roasted malts

T - also simply coffee and roasted malts

M - smooth, well carbonated, medium to full bodied

At first I was a bit disappointed that this was one-dimensional. Honestly, the one dimension is flavorful and enjoyable so I'm not mad about it. This is a nice coffee stout that you can enjoy on your own or share. I would have it again.

Photo of KAF
4/5  rDev -3.4%

Photo of billab914
3.73/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2008 vintage poured from 750ml bottle. Poured pitch black with a thick two inch bubbly head. The head settled but kept a nice layer covering the top of the beer. Some decent lacing was also left on the glass as I drank it.

There is definitely a strong bitter coffee flavor to the aroma followed by a good amount of milk chocolate. Kind of has a mixture of chocolate milk, coffee and roastedness thing going on.

The taste is also strong with bitter coffee. It has less of the milk chocolate flavor found in the nose and more of the roasted bitterness. This is definitely one of the stronger coffee flavored beers I've had. It's a good flavor but the coffee seems to overpower a little. Some of the coffee beers I've rated higher just seemed to blend the beer flavors with the coffee better. If you like coffee though you will most likely like this a lot.

Mouthfeel is on the thicker side with moderate carbonation. Could have used a little less carbonation for my tastes. Drinkability is good, the coffee is strong for sure but it's a pretty nice coffee stout.

Pisgah Valdez from Pisgah Brewing Co.
92 out of 100 based on 310 ratings.