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Pisgah Valdez - Pisgah Brewing Co.

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BA SCORE
93
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306 Ratings
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Ratings: 306
Reviews: 195
rAvg: 4.14
pDev: 11.84%
Wants: 179
Gots: 19 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Pisgah Brewing Co. visit their website
North Carolina, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 12-02-2007)
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Photo of zeledonia
4.35/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to n2185 for including this in a recent trade.

Pours black, no light even at the edges, with a solid two-finger medium-tan head. Head retention is okay, and lacing is good.

Smell is all nice smooth slightly bitter coffee. The malts are there, but they definitely take a back seat to the coffee. More like coffee than beer.

Taste is, well, delicious. Really nice coffee flavors throughout, with a hint of bitterness, but not the overbrewed bitter character that brings so many coffee stouts down. The malts again have second billing, but they bring in a bit of chocolate and a decent richness. Finishes smooth, with a gentle lingering bitterness.

Body is mid-way between a typical stout and imperial stout. Not light, but not the syrupy thick stuff that many impys are. Goes down smooth. Carbonation is on the high side; enough to tickle the mouth.

This is one of my new favorite coffee stouts. A step below Founders Breakfast Stout and Wake 'n Bake, particularly in the complexity of the flavor, but really freakin' good. The coffee flavors are present but smooth, without the sharpness and high bitterness that many coffee stouts deliver. The ABV is lower than a lot of the big coffee imperial stouts, which is nice - drinking a bomber of this myself isn't going to knock me flat.

Photo of Azurescens
4.05/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22oz bottle with no bottled on or freshness date poured into Maudite stemmed glass, reviewed on 4/27/11

A: Pours black with dark tan head and moderate retention. The head fades to a collar and leaves some lacing around glass.

S: Smooth freshly roasted coffee up front with dark malt and a hint of chocolate lingering behind the huge coffee aroma. Lots and lots of coffee, if I were to take a blind sniff of this I would definitely think this was a cup of coffee instead of a beer.

T: Bitter roasted coffee dominates the taste with dark malts and some hops and alcohol barely coming through all of the coffee. Long lingering taste of freshly brewed coffee after each sip.

M: Nice medium body with a bit more carbonation than I would really like in a stout.

O: If you want lots of coffee in your stout, this is the beer to go for. Pretty drinkable for a 6.8% ABV brew. Some more body and less carbonation would do wonders for this beer. Still great none the less.

Photo of Lunch
4.55/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle gifted to me a generous extra courtesy of Marine1975 during and in-person trade at Sexual Chocolate 2011, thanks Shane!

Poured in my Troegs Troegenator mug from a 22oz bottles right after arriving home from SC'11. Pours thick and creamy and it bascially black in color, looks delicious and I can smell it already. Strong coffee aroma that smells incredibly fresh. Some cocoa, coffee steal the show and I am really enjoying this already. Taste is equally as nice with coffee, espresso, cocoa, milk chocolate and hints of bitter dark chocolate. Mouthfeel is fuller than some people are of themselves on this site.

Overall this is a great beer and one that I would have on hand at all times if it were available in my area.

Photo of Pencible
4.18/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: This poured pitch black with a bit of tan head.
S: It smelled like lots of coffee, with a little cream and vanilla.
T: It tasted like strong coffee, with a bit of dark chocolate and cream and sugary vanilla. It had a lasting bitter aftertaste.
M: It was watery with a little carbonation. A bit too light.
D: This was up there with Peche Mortel and Brunch Weasel for super strong coffee beers. Very nice scent and taste, but the body was sort of weak. Easy enough to drink anyway, as long as you like coffee. Nice beer.

Photo of mactrail
3.53/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Cold coffee in your cup.

Very attractive brownish foam on chestnut colored beer. Modestly fragrant with coffee. Medium body. I keep thinking of Hostess cream-filled chocolate cupcakes. Coffee flavor is main thing, much like Kahlua liqueur. Just a touch of black patent malt sourness. Some sweetness. Vanilla malt on the lips. Hops not very strong.

Tastes stronger than it apparently is. Flavor gets tiresome after a few swallows, but it's certainly one of the better coffee flavors.

Photo of ncfranklin
4.13/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bomber into a tulip.

A: Impenetrably black. Even holding this to the light, this rejects all temptation to give a hint of color. Small half finger tan head recedes quickly.

S: Big coffee dominates. Some chocolate to the nose as well, with toasty malt.

T: Not as powerful on the coffee as the nose would suggest. Lots of chocolate and toasted malt pour through. Sweet mostly, till a nice coffee layer comes in on the finish.

M: Very smooth till swallow where a light dryness comes in with the coffee flavor. Quite nice combination.

D: A very abundantly flavorful stout at such a small ABV%. Finishing the bomber was not a problem. Really enjoyed this stout, though at $9 for the 22oz it is not something I'd get often.

Photo of robwestcott
3.93/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

thanks to thagr81us for this one.

poured cold, black and fairly aggressively from the bottle to a founder's brewing company goblet with a full finger, big bubbled mocha head with nice retention and spotty lace.

aroma of creamy espresso and milk chocolate.

coffee and chocolate cupcakes, with a tad bit of tangy bitter to the roof of the mouth.

light to medium bodied for the style, high carbonation, smooth, tangy bitter.

drinkable - sure, a bomber's worth.

overall, real nice beer, big coffee - not a fan of this tangy bitter, but its not to the point of distraction.

Photo of jnn4v
3.95/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Very dark brown / black color. Nearly opaque. Hints of a head on top, but not much. Seems to be carbonated.

S: Week-old coffee, chocolate, molasses, and whipped cream.

T: Coffee, coffee grinds, dark malty sweetness (sort of like molasses minus the bitterness), and a hint of creaminess (but only relatively minor).

M: Good level of carbonation. More carbonated than an imperial stout would be, but seems appropriate for its genre. Medium-sized bubbles.

O: Good overall beer. I enjoyed the flavors, and most of all, it's a mellow and easy-to-consume beer, which is very rare for a coffee-centric stout.

Photo of biglite351
3.35/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - touch of red at the edges. Creamy dark tan head that leaves some lacing.

S - chocolate syrup, like I'm a hot fudge sundae, coffee and a bitter shot in the finish.

T - cold coffee with fudge in it. Malts in the background. The bitter shot in the scent is present in the flavor as well.

M - mild coating, but a strong tingle on sides of tongue.

O - I could have one but would then opt for something without the bitter hit.

Photo of babaracas
4/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap at the Pisgah tasting room in a shaker pint. Black with thin medium brown head, spotty lace. Smell: big roasted coffee, roasted grain, toffee, a little green earthy hopping. Coffee forward, nice. Taste: caramel, coffee, booze. Nice. Light carbonation.

Photo of BarrytheBear
3.6/5  rDev -13%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle dated December 2009 courtesy of Robert. Thanks for the opportunity!

Pours a dark brown. Head dissipates almost immediately leaving a thin ring along the edges.

Smell is mostly coffee with a touch of chocolate and caramel. Not robust and in your face, but still present for being nearly a year and half old.

Coffee is front and center. Caramel and roast provide support. Easy drinking and rather simplistic. This isn't a dig on the beer, it's just an easy drinking coffee stout with no real bells and whistles. Robert was kind enough to send a 2010 as well, so I'll have to do a comparison at some point.

A bit thin and slightly watery, which seems to me a problem for many coffee stouts. Overall, this was a nice light coffee stout that didn't overwhelm me after a long run.

Photo of n2185
4.18/5  rDev +1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours black with about a finger of chocolate-colored head that quickly recedes into a thin ring with a little lacing.

S: There are some roasted malt and chocolate aromas in there, but mostly it's just coffee. Full-bodied, rich, dark-roasted coffee.

T: Very similar to the aroma, this beer is just bursting with rich, dark-roasted coffee flavors. There are touches of roasted malt and chocolate, but mostly coffee. The finish is surprisingly smooth and not bitter.

M: Medium-thick body with low-medium carbonation, this beer is thick and creamy.

D: This beer goes down very easily. It's a pretty simple beer, tasting more like a glass of high quality iced coffee with carbonation than a beer. Very straight-forward, but very good as well.

Photo of AgentZero
4.43/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to chawk for hooking this one up. Served at our Night of Fedor tasting with the Chicago Crew.

A - Black beer with a brown head. Decent lacing, pretty nice looking brew.

S - Rich coffee on this, very strong aroma profile for a something that is less than 7% abv. Good roasted note with a little bit of burnt cocoa.

T - Roasted malts, awesome coffee profile. This is really how a coffee beer should be done. Great bitterness combined with a sweetness from the burnt cocoa. Great beer all around.

M - Full bodied, nice dose of carbonation for the style.

D - So good, could drink tons of it. Would love to have this beer again and highly recommend it to others.

Photo of dgugliuzza
4.58/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22 oz. bomber into a tulip....Huge thanks to GehenHerzog for this extra.

A- Pours pitch black with a mocha colored head. The thin head creates a film that encompasses the beer's body. Not much carbonation can be seen.

S- Deep roasted espresso bean with some toffee. Roasted malt and chocolate are also at the forefront. There is no debating the dominant robust coffee character that arrest you and never let go.

T- Roasted, sweet coffee beans with a chocolaty finish. Tastes just liken it smells. Small hint of bitterness from the coffee beans. Truly amazing flavor. Just like biting into a premium espresso bean.

M- Creamy and silky smooth. Medium carbonation. Not too thick, not too light. A bit of dryness from the rich coffee notes.

D- This is fantastic drinking. Creamy, smooth delicious coffee. I'll have no problem finishing off this bomber. I just wish I had access to more.

Photo of brewandbbq
4/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle from January 2009.

Pours opaque black with mahogany edging and a tight beige head. A partial skim coat and roped lacing throughout the glass.

Aromatics lead off with roasted malts, coffee grounds, bitter chocolate, and Oreo shells. A hint of char and smoke follow through.

Medium bodied with a slight chew. Thinnish for the style. The mouthfeel is soft and a bit creamy.

Brownie bits with espresso and chocolate malt start the palate. Medium roast coffee steps forward as well as bakers chocolate and a hint of Kahlua.

Finishes with shades of coffee, chocolate, and a bit of char.

Tasty enough, but I'm left wanting more of everything. The coffee character is a bit meekish and the stout base is rather average.

Photo of CooperEllis
3.98/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

In a trade w/ trev1179
22oz into DFH snifter, celler temp.

Deep dark brown on the edge of black, solid color with sligh feathering of color on the edges where it mixes with the bubbles. Slight head, thing lacing, both a bright tan.

Aroma is nice, light, some acrid coffee notes but otherwise pleasant with malt and coffee dominating, slight milk chocolate as well.

The flavor isn't long on malt, but there is some roasted malt some coffee and a touch of bitter chocolate. The taste alone isn't much to stand on, but the combination of the taste with a light but still creamy mouthfeel makes this more drinkable than the sum of those two characteristics.

Very light for a double stout, I wish the abv was slightly lower because I think this would become a frequently sought out 'toss in' in trades or coveted extra. As is, I'll be happy every time I see one show up.

(103rd)

Photo of jrallen34
4.33/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle provided by Nate, drank from my Hill Farmstead glass... Dark brown with a nice light tan head, good retention and lacing... The aroma is tons of fresh coffee, has the Intelligentsia of HBI... The taste is equally nice, good light coffee but its fresh. Super easy to drink.

Photo of yeahnatenelson
3.5/5  rDev -15.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Big thanks to Onenote81 for sending me a second bottle - definitely helped me confirm my feelings about the first. Thanks!

Appearance -- Pours a dark brown with one finger of dirty tan head that quickly dissolves into a dirty halo.

Smell -- Espresso, cocoa, soft caramels, and mild woodsmoke. Very inviting.

Taste -- Roast malt, gas station coffee, cocoa, and toffee. As the beer warms the alcohol becomes much more apparent, akin to drinking a Black Russian. Lingering flavor of stale coffee.

Mouthfeel -- Medium-full body with an abundance of sharp, prickly carbonation.

Drinkability -- Not bad, though a bit uninspired. The coffee fade is apparent, the carbonation is on the sharp side, and for the abv it tastes too boozy. While I'm glad I got to try it, this one didn't live up to its reputation.

Photo of Wasatch
4.33/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks goes out to injuredreserve for this brew.

22oz. Bomber

Pours a very nice black color, nice carbonation, with a nice one-finger creamy light tan head, with some nice sticky lacing left behind. The nose is malty, with some nice chocolate/coffee notes, with some nice licorice/vanilla notes. The taste is really nice, malty, very nice chocolate/coffee notes, and some nice sweetness from the vanilla note. Medium body, has a nice creamyness to this Imp. Stout. Very Drinkable, a nice surprise.

Photo of stakem
3.5/5  rDev -15.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Thanks to Psycohops for sharing on 1/22/11.

This bomber was dated Jan '09 and it was poured into a snifter. It appears a dark brown color with lighter brown around the edges. A finger of big bubbly head appears and slowly recedes. Quite a creamy looking head that leaves plenty of lace about the glass. A swirl revived more than a finger of head.

The smell of this brew is coffee mostly with some citrus bean and earthy components. A little bit of musty grain is evident along with a characteristic that seems quite nutty.

The taste is citrusy from seemingly a combination of hops and coffee beans. A light twangy aspect of alcohol is evident along with a musty grain flavor. Roasty with chocolate and coffee throughout. A note of slight oxidation is present.

This is a medium bodied brew with an aggressive level of carbonation that is fizzy, bubbly and prickly on the tongue. Overall quite earthy and drinkable. There is seemingly no indication of alcohol in this brew. For a coffee offering that was 2 years old, I was impressed that it didn't seem to drop out much. I wonder if coffee character that drops out in some brews is the product of different means of adding the coffee that was brewed or aging over beans. Regardless, I'd like to try this one fresh to have a comparison.

Photo of GehenHerzog
4.8/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

22oz bomber, purchased at Bruisin' Ales (Asheville) poured into a Delirium Tremens snifter

A- Pours a deep brown with a 1/2 inch tan beige head that doesn't stick around long but leaves a decent amount of lacing on the glass.

S- Coffee, coffee, coffee and a little roasted chocolate malt.

T- The strongest coffee tasting beer I have ever had the pleasure of drinking. The coffee flavor is right on the edge of being perfect and overpowering but stays on the side of perfect. The coffee bitterness is more noticeable than any hop bitterness present.

M- Extremely smooth and creamy. Nearly perfect carbonation

D- Not a huge a beer in terms of ABV but the alcohol is very well hidden. It goes down smooth with no burn and the flavors keep you coming back for more.

This was a wonderful example of a coffee stout. The coffee is prominent in this beer and it seems as if you could drink it for breakfast. A great offering from Pisgah Brewing.

Photo of jpro
4.38/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Picked up a 22oz bomber at Peabody's in Boone. Poured into a standard shaker pint...

A: Near pitch black, maybe some dark brown in there; forms a nice, one-finger, thick, dark mocha head; leaves a few strands of lace and there's virtually no retention after a few minutes.

S: Smells pretty darn scrumptious; rich, rich coffee aroma with some caramel and toffee; maybe some sweet malts a la malted milk / Whoppers, too.

T: HUGE coffee! Wow! Super duper roasted malts; leaves a lasting burnt malt bitterness... this coffee bitter dominated any hop bite... crazy.

M: Near full-bodied and creamy... nice.

D: Enjoyable, yet more of a beer to savor; coffee is almost overpowering on this one! This is the biggest coffee stout I've had!

Photo of UnDeadly
3.23/5  rDev -22%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle, Glass stein

Appearance - Pitch black, with a tan head that foamed easily. Generous carbonation maintains the head for some time, though lacing was minimal.

Smell - Toasted coffee almost exclusively, with muted notes of earth and biscuits.

Taste - Coffee notes come in quickly, and then fade to a semi-dry, toasty finish. Nothing remarkable really.

Mouth Feel - Overcarbonated for the style, and too dry/astringent. Body feels thin and unremarkable.

Drinkability - Price wasn't horrible, $6.50 I think, and it's a local brew which is always good to support. ABV keeps it drinkable as well.

Really not impressed, to the point that I will actually try this beer again just in case something is off in my palette. It's priced right, and I do enjoy supporting a local brewery, especially one as innovative as Pisgah. Their Vortex II was excellent, and this one was rather boring.

Photo of Huhzubendah
4.48/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle from hobbie100. Thanks Richard!

I shared this with some good friends while watching football. Good times.

A: Valdez appears deep, dark brown in color with a half inch of beige head. The head displays good retention and leaves some nice lacing on the glass.

S: Fabulous aroma, primarily of coffee, followed by roasted malt and chocolates.

T: The taste was also terrific. Valdez is all about the coffee. The flavor is robust and grand, with a variety of chocolates and roasted malt emerging behind the dominant coffee taste.

M: Smooth and creamy with a healthy level of carbonation. Well done.

D: A superb example of a coffee stout. I highly recommend Pisgah Valdez.

Photo of drabmuh
4.18/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by the other Matt recently. Thanks other Matt, this was a medium list want of mine.

Beer is black and opaque with a thin tan head that leaves a lot of lacing on the glass. Head has moderate retention to it.

Aroma is roasty, mildly sweet and uncomplex. Smells like a big stout.

MMMM....sweet stout. Beer is medium in body and fills out the palate nice, coating the mouth with a strong feeling of sweetness with some chocolate flavors and some moderate bitterness at the finish. Coffee and roast are distinctive in the finish. I was surprised how sweet and chocolaty this beer was. A very nice beer overall.

Pisgah Valdez from Pisgah Brewing Co.
93 out of 100 based on 306 ratings.