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Pisgah Valdez - Pisgah Brewing Co.

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BA SCORE
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outstanding

282 Ratings
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Ratings: 282
Reviews: 193
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 11.54%
Wants: 183
Gots: 18 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Pisgah Brewing Co. visit their website
North Carolina, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 12-02-2007)
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thewimperoo

Illinois

4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

11-15-2011 18:48:29 | More by thewimperoo
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spycow

Illinois

4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

01-13-2013 20:36:03 | More by spycow
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iatethecloudsfor

Vermont

4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

12-30-2013 02:57:09 | More by iatethecloudsfor
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claytong

Vermont

4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

05-04-2012 03:14:52 | More by claytong
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hoerr

South Carolina

4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

03-21-2014 20:53:13 | More by hoerr
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t0rin0

California

4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

12-08-2012 22:08:44 | More by t0rin0
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rangerred

Tennessee

4.24/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured into a pint glass out of a 22oz bomber.

Pours pitch black with a one finger dark tan head. Very good head retention with ok lacing.

Aroma is all about the coffee. Lots of medium roast coffee with hints of dark chocolate and dark roasted malt. Some caramel in there too. It is really hard to get past the coffee, though, but it is inviting.

The taste is more and more coffee. Some milk chocolate and caramel/toffee. Really the perfect blend of coffee and chocolate with no one character being too overpowering. Bitterness is very light but this beer is not too sweet either so it balances out nicely.

Overall, a very well done beer from Pisgah. Wish I would have picked up more than one.

Serving type: bottle

08-17-2013 23:40:55 | More by rangerred
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EgadBananas

Louisiana

4.22/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Received via round-about trade with mulder1010...thanks Pat (and Nick)!

Pours stout dark, with a surprisingly brown chocolate head. It wasn't massive, but nice looking still. Aroma was big coffee, with an equally big chocolate note and roasted backing. Big chocolate and coffee taste, nicely roasted, with a bitter coffee finish. Had a nice creaminess to it. With the ABV, I'm curious if there's some confusion as to the style here... Either way, this was a shining coffee stout example.

Serving type: bottle

12-04-2011 05:45:46 | More by EgadBananas
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aasher

Indiana

4.22/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

I received this bottle in a huge in person trade with thagr81us down in SC in September. Thanks for hitting this want Calton!

This beer pours a dark chocolate brown I color with a one finger beige head. It poured medium in body. The aromas are rich of fresh coffee grounds and bitter chocolate. The nose is actually quite similar to that of Founders Breakfast Stout. The flavors too, pretty similar to FBS. the coffee and chocolate are both there Ina knock you upside the head type of manner. This beer just isn't nearly as smooth or full in body as FBS but the flavor is very close. I'm taken aback by this one. It's a phenomenal coffee stout and definitely worth trying. This is definitely a beer to seek out.

Serving type: bottle

01-11-2012 06:50:20 | More by aasher
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DCon

Missouri

4.22/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Enjoyed on-tap @ Barley's Taproom & Pizzeria in Asheville, NC for $4. Tapped from an unknown tap handle (since sitting @ a table) into a 16oz Barley's Taproom & Pizzeria Pint Glass.

Aroma- I really got my nose into this one! The strongest roast and burnt coffee aroma was hanging around. Very complexed for the style. Could have gone on and on with the aroma but there is much more to this brew!

Appearance- Received with a 1.5 finger head that stayed for good time. Had the deepest brown color body without becoming black. Then, covered the ENTIRE glass with lace.

Flavor- A good, semi-burnt taste started this one out and then Folger's Coffee (cheap roast) came in the middle. Cool! Easy going malts also. Possibly a Cafe Americano when it comes to it.

Mouthfeel- Medium-Full Bodied, Light Carbonation, Smooth, and creamy. Everything a 2X stout should be (without the warming).

Overall Impression- So wild how I found Folger's coffee in this one! Great taste and supported the style well. I'm hoping to find many of these in bottle to enjoy at another date and bring back for friends in the Midwest.

Serving type: on-tap

01-13-2012 17:06:11 | More by DCon
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kkipple

South Carolina

4.22/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

After all the hype I thought I'd better throw in my two bits. Fresh outta Pisgah in new 750ml bottle form, I grabbed a few of these the day they hit shelves in Asheville and drank one a few days later.

A. The bottle disgorges a fat, 2 finger tall frothy tan head and a jet-black, opaque brew. Looks like, well, coffee. You'll tire of hearing that word by the end of the review, trust me. Over time the head subsides down to a few centimeters and leaves a few tidbits of lace behind. Lots of white yeast globs settle to the bottom of my glass. A bottle conditioned coffee stout?
Yes please!

S. Just... coffee. Rich, yet restrained and non-acidic coffee. Char, earth, cocoa, roasted malt and java. Some malt sweetness comes through but this is coffee all the way. Intense and clean, this is a real winner.

T. Coffee delight. Sweet and roasty and dare I say, mellow. Exceptionally well done, but rather one-note. If you like your morning joe you'll LOVE this.

M. Fantastic. Zesty, fluffy carbonation tingles the tongue and the lush beer fills the mouth with creamy bubbles. The finish is pure mocha and lingers long. Simply outstanding!

D. Quite high for what it is. Valdez is light (at only 6.8%) and avoids the harsh espresso / burnt roast character that many coffee Imperial stouts boast. Instead, this is a flavorful, yet medium bodied coffee stout that remains terribly drinkable. Reminded me a great deal of Allagash Black in that it was purposely subdued to great effect.

Valdez is another hit from the mad brewers at Pisgah. This is one of the best coffee beers I've had, ever. Seek it out if you're a devotee of the noble bean!

Serving type: bottle

09-11-2008 04:04:57 | More by kkipple
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jampics2

Ohio

4.22/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Growler into a snifter. Thanks to Kevin for bringing this back from Pisgah. I've wanted to try this for a while.

Is it named for the coffee maker or the oil tanker?  Maybe both!  Valdez is a pitch black beer with a dark tan head. It has good retention considering its a coffee stout (I find it's really hard to get the foam to stick due to the oil from the coffee beans unless you are Surly, but Coffee Bender is a freak of nature); we are left with a ring and film with spotty lace after a while.  A swirl reawakens the head.   

Valdez smells prominently of coffee, really rich and strong coffee. Some earthy character is reflected in the grounds, but this is super fresh and pleasant not stale. A bit of caramel sweetness, chocolate and just a hint of creamy vanilla compliment and round out an excellent nose.    

Valdez is full of great coffee through and through. Some dark French roast espresso reaches a peak of bitterness then sweet chocolate, vanilla, and caramel come in the picture.  The powerful tasting experience finishes with lingering swetness and a touch of lingering coffee bitterness.  While this is well above average, it falls short of the top tier - simply put, I just would like more roast from the malt. Otherwise, the coffee and sweet malt are nice and this is very good!    

This beer is a touch thin but nice overall. It has medium body with medium to heavy carb for a stout. For a 6.5% stout, this is probably acceptable but for the 'Imperial/Double' style I expect more creaminess. The finish is sweet and bitter and a touch dry. Overall, Pisgah Vortex is an excellent beer. I had a growler basically to myself with just a touch of help from the wife and it never got to be a chore.  A great coffee beer - straight-up, no gimmicks, very expressive and very pleasant.  Now there are three famous Valdez's - Juan, Exxon, and Pisgah!    

Serving type: growler

10-05-2010 00:56:17 | More by jampics2
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objectivemonkey

Minnesota

4.2/5  rDev +1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Into my Duvel glass, pours a slick dark brown to black, a whopping head of tan foam, sitting around forever, with great big bunches off lacing. Lovely. Aroma has nice dark chocolate notes, coffee grounds, mostly coffee, and thats pretty much it. Simply but effective.

Taste is a bit more diverse, some roasted malt entering the mix, maybe a bit of hop, maybe some cream, but its mostly coffee delight, much like the nose. Again, simple, but delicious. The mouth is smooth, full body, the lightest of carbonation, a nice finish. In all, I did a lot of searching for this one, and it isn't a home run hitter, but it is a fine beer.

Serving type: bottle

05-20-2009 02:27:11 | More by objectivemonkey
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goryshkewych

Ohio

4.2/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Kinda light for a stout in appearance. Thin white head. The nose is intense coffee. Starbucks. Hard to believe this is beer. Mouthfeel is medium-bodied at best. Tastes like coffee, with a roasty bitter finish. Fascinating for what it is, but almost difficult to compare against other stouts. Unique for sure.

Serving type: growler

03-16-2008 06:01:22 | More by goryshkewych
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joe1510

Illinois

4.2/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

64oz Growler

7.2%

I get the opportunity to sample my first from Pisgah thanks to Mikesgroove, thanks Mike! Valdez is a fine looking beer! Pours black with some transparency in the form of chestnut highlights at the bottom of the glass. The dirty tan head grew to a solid finger and a half on the pour and fell rather slowly to a skimming and respectable collar. The head leaves a patch or two of lacing here and there.

Wow! This beer is not really beer! It's cold coffee! Well, that's what the aroma suggests anyways. High quality fresh pressed coffees grabs the nose and never let's go. As I stir the head I still get massive coffee but a drop of cream and a pinch of sugar have been added. As the head dies back down it's back to black coffee.

Big coffee in the flavor as well, obviously. I wonder if there's any beer in here? Although the coffee is everywhere it just doesn't live up to the intensity of the aroma, which would be near impossible to do. That's just me being picky though. Finishes with a solid coffee bitterness that grows the more I drink.

The mouthfeel is a little on the thin side but it actually increases the drinkability. I could be wrong but I think this was created to be a fairly drinkable coffee stout instead of a sippin' brew. So keeping that in mind the mouthfeel fits well.

Like I said earlier the drinkability on this stout is up there pretty high. It's already going down far to fast.

I have no idea how the guys at Pisgah squeezed this much coffee into a stout but I commend them for it. I'm already jittery and jonesin' for a cigarette! I'd love to see this get bottled in four packs in the future, although that may be a long way off since they only do limited bombers now. Thanks again Mike for sending this tasty treat!

Reviewed: 3/15/08

Serving type: bottle

08-18-2013 23:49:26 | More by joe1510
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SaCkErZ9

Florida

4.2/5  rDev +1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Served on draft at Duckworths in N Charlotte for $2.50 a pint. Great deal!

Comes to the bar pitch black. A very small tan head is present but then leaves completely. I was disappointed in the appearance of this one. Kind of looks like a cup of coffee in the glass. Actually, it smells like it too.

Aroma is full of coffee. I love it! Not a whole lot else is going on. Mild, freshly brewed coffee seems to be the dominating aroma.

Tastes like coffee as well. The coffee seems somwhat subdued but is certainly the focal point of this one. A bit of fruitiness and roasted grains penetrate the coffee blanket but lack the tenacity to make themselves completely known.

I really dug this one. It was served around 50F or so and as it warmed, it got better. I could drink this one at room temp. A bit thick on the tongue. Quite creamy. So delicious.

Note: This one is only 6.7% abv so how it is considered an Imperial Stout is beyond me. This one drinks like a stout and has the abv of a stout. The abv is very well hidden, however.

Serving type: on-tap

02-23-2010 20:42:49 | More by SaCkErZ9
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M-Fox24

New Jersey

4.19/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

A: Color is mostly black (wouldn’t say pitch black though) and slightly brown. Small off-white head: light brown; tan, and some retention

S: This is all about the coffee with hints of chocolate, caramel, and malt

T: Granted, the coffee presence is pulling some weight here; nonetheless, the induction of chocolate and caramel balances out extremely well. Slight acidity/bitterness from this coffee treat as well.

M: Smooth, creamy, milky, velvety, and has a light/Medium body. The carbonation is on par

O: An extremely fine coffee stout; the sweetness and the tartness were by no means overboard. An excellent example of infusing beer with coffee, and thus definitely one of the better coffee stouts out there; enjoy this in the evening, or at the sound of your morning alarm clock….delicious either way

Serving type: bottle

06-25-2014 14:41:26 | More by M-Fox24
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n2185

North Carolina

4.18/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours black with about a finger of chocolate-colored head that quickly recedes into a thin ring with a little lacing.

S: There are some roasted malt and chocolate aromas in there, but mostly it's just coffee. Full-bodied, rich, dark-roasted coffee.

T: Very similar to the aroma, this beer is just bursting with rich, dark-roasted coffee flavors. There are touches of roasted malt and chocolate, but mostly coffee. The finish is surprisingly smooth and not bitter.

M: Medium-thick body with low-medium carbonation, this beer is thick and creamy.

D: This beer goes down very easily. It's a pretty simple beer, tasting more like a glass of high quality iced coffee with carbonation than a beer. Very straight-forward, but very good as well.

Serving type: bottle

03-02-2011 17:49:25 | More by n2185
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CWiggins

North Carolina

4.18/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A dear friend of mine picked up a growler of Valdez while visiting the brewery two weeks ago. She raved about it, and although my curiosity was roused I put it aside until I had time to drink and think. It was well worth it! This may be the best coffee stout I've ever had.

The growler made a dynamic "poof" as I turned the cap. It poured pitch black into my Pisgah pint glass (also provided by my dear friend). The one-finger head was beautiful; it was dark brown and very dense. One deep inhalation picks up aromas of freshly ground coffee beans and dark, dark malts. There's also an extremely mild fruity ester present, but it takes a very deep sniff to detect it. Flavors of espresso attack the tongue with the first mouthful. The aforementioned sweetness is there as well, but it soon dissipates into a nice, mellow dark coffee center. The finish is a bit hoppy, which balances well with the other flavors. What I really appreciate is the decent malt backbone this version of the coffee stout has; I had another local version of this style just a few weeks ago, and, although it was quite nice, there was too much coffee and not enough balancing malts. This is a far cry better. Well done, Pisgah! I hope to drop by and refill my growler soon!

Serving type: growler

02-22-2008 01:38:03 | More by CWiggins
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Onenote81

North Carolina

4.18/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Super excited to try this big beer from the boys at Pisgah. Poured into a snifter glass. Pours a thick viscous black with no head on top at all. Nothing. Big roasted coffee scents burst out. This is strong right after popping the cap. Lots of espresso, some milk chocolate, cream, toasted sugar. This smells great. A very good lead-in to drinking this bad boy.

The mouth is very crisp and bubbly...too much so. For this style I prefer big and heavy, as this one is, but it needs to be smoother and a little creamier. Too much carbonation going on. Great roasted coffee flavors all over this. Excellent bitter black coffee balanced with a creamy milky chocolate on the end. Slight grassy hops noted on the finish as well. I like that touch. It claimed to be a coffee beer, and a coffee beer it was. Wow.

*Note: This was my third "coffee" beer in a row (all different styles), and this one was my favorite for sure. One of the best coffee beers I've had in awhile.

Serving type: bottle

04-23-2010 14:35:34 | More by Onenote81
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drabmuh

Maryland

4.18/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by the other Matt recently. Thanks other Matt, this was a medium list want of mine.

Beer is black and opaque with a thin tan head that leaves a lot of lacing on the glass. Head has moderate retention to it.

Aroma is roasty, mildly sweet and uncomplex. Smells like a big stout.

MMMM....sweet stout. Beer is medium in body and fills out the palate nice, coating the mouth with a strong feeling of sweetness with some chocolate flavors and some moderate bitterness at the finish. Coffee and roast are distinctive in the finish. I was surprised how sweet and chocolaty this beer was. A very nice beer overall.

Serving type: bottle

01-06-2011 20:01:21 | More by drabmuh
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ShadesOfGray

Pennsylvania

4.18/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Got as an extra from jmu500...thanks again John; looking forward to this, considering it was one of my wants! Vintage 2008.

Poured from a cork and caged 750ml bottle into my Portsmouth large tulip/snifter glass. Pours a dark brown...filling the glass a solid black, and a massive frothy tan head. Head retention is mild...but dissipates into a creamy, patchy surface. Lacing is nice, but slides relatively quick.

Aroma is exactly what I expected...a coffee stout! Loads of great coffee notes and roasted malts.

Flavor is very nice for its style. True to form, a GREAT coffee stout! The coffee flavor is not only strong, but a tasty coffee resemblance. It's so stinkin' drinkable too! Medium body, high carbonation...which isn't generally a good thing for stouts...but this one works well! There's a slight milk or cream flavor added to the coffee, and not much hops to speak of...but that could also be due to age. Delicious!

Serving type: bottle

07-16-2010 02:58:35 | More by ShadesOfGray
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younger35

Minnesota

4.18/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Received this brew from both tpd975 and hoppymeal in fairly recent trades. This will be my first Pisgah brew and thank the lord! I absolutely love coffee brews and they are by far my favorite 'style'. Drank from my Darkness snifter.

September 2008 on side of bottle. Holy F'n cork, they weld these in apparently.

Appearance- Oh this is a good looking brew. Pours a super dark black with an absolutely huge three finger dark khaki head that recedes fairly slowly. My snifter is half beer, half head. A thin cap and nice manly collar remain behind leaving somewhere between a lot and an ass ton of lacing.
Smell- Coffee. I could easily just end there and this would be my most accurate review of a nose yet. A bit of cream and chocolate but I've said too much...
Taste- Slightly dirty and murky from the start with bits of raw cocoa nibs and acrid watered down coffee. Some cream and light sugar add a smooth sweetness but frankly I think the over-carbonation takes this beer down a notch. No hops to speak of. The majority of the coffee flavor is in the aftertaste after the burn of the CO2 wears off. It's lightly sweet and full of French roast goodness. If not for the aggressive carbonation this would definitely be a 5.
Mouthfeel- Thin body (maybe from adding brewed coffee?) and light crisp feel that is not what I like in this style beer. I prefer smooth and creamy and this is the only flaw in this brew IMO. It's just a shame that this particular flaw affects the flavor so much.
Drinkability- After some of the carbonation escapes this thing really picks up. The coffee seems to come out a bit more and it really shines. Since I never really got the beer cold it honestly didn't take long to smooth out a bit. I'll bump up the mouthfeel a half point more than I would have but it still needs toned down. Okay, no more Nancy negative. This really is a nice coffee brew that tastes delicious and I really did enjoy. Thanks again to Greg and Derek!

Serving type: bottle

12-21-2008 22:29:09 | More by younger35
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Pencible

Virginia

4.18/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: This poured pitch black with a bit of tan head.
S: It smelled like lots of coffee, with a little cream and vanilla.
T: It tasted like strong coffee, with a bit of dark chocolate and cream and sugary vanilla. It had a lasting bitter aftertaste.
M: It was watery with a little carbonation. A bit too light.
D: This was up there with Peche Mortel and Brunch Weasel for super strong coffee beers. Very nice scent and taste, but the body was sort of weak. Easy enough to drink anyway, as long as you like coffee. Nice beer.

Serving type: bottle

04-13-2011 20:10:20 | More by Pencible
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DefenCorps

Oregon

4.15/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thank you, Mike, for a hand-delivered treat! January 2009 bottling

A: We have a rather massive gusher, resulting in a black beer with an overwhelmingly large dark brown head. Retention isn't all that hot, but this beer looks good allasame

S: Coffee. Freshly brewed, mellow and complex. Cold pressed? Some chocolate is present in the back, lending a decadent note to this beer. Pleasant roastiness. Quite awesome, really. As pronounced as the coffee is, there's enough going on behind it to keep this beer interesting.

T: Tastes like coffee. Just pure coffee. I usually dislike one-dimensional beers but this is one crazy good cuppa. Beautiful medium roast coffee with a little bit of chocolate. As a stout, this isn't all that great, but as a beer? Great. Finishes dry, long and bitter

M: Light with soft carbonation and a finish that's brilliant, this one's awesome. The pure coffee bitterness is netherworldly

D: This bomber is going in about 20 minutes, which isn't a great sign for me.

Serving type: bottle

03-20-2009 00:05:17 | More by DefenCorps
Pisgah Valdez from Pisgah Brewing Co.
92 out of 100 based on 282 ratings.