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Pisgah Valdez - Pisgah Brewing Co.

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Pisgah ValdezPisgah Valdez

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BA SCORE
93
outstanding

307 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 307
Reviews: 195
rAvg: 4.14
pDev: 11.84%
Wants: 179
Gots: 19 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Pisgah Brewing Co. visit their website
North Carolina, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 12-02-2007)
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Photo of pwoods
3.55/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Mikesgroove for the bottle.

750ml corked and caged brown bottle poured into a snifter.

A: Pours a dark cola or root beer color with lots of carbonation. A big dark khaki head forms very frothy and only holds about a minute. Some lacing.

S: Plenty of coffee and chocolate to go around. Very sweet and I'm assuming Belgian candi sugar. Some nice roasty notes. Has a nice hop backing.

T/M: More of the big coffee notes and less of the chocolate. A bit too sweet with more of the Belgian candi sugar. A good hop character backing things up. Carbonation is very high and reflects on the taste.

D: I'm a bit disappointed. I had really been looking forward to this and it just wasn't everything I'd hoped for. I love coffee beers but just didn't dig this one as much. Decent but not the greatest.

Photo of Crosling
3.55/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Black colored ale, with ruby edges. Very frothy head varies in color from light tan to dark tan. One dimensional nose smells of espresso, but lacks malt aromatics. Flavor has some complexity to it and tastes nice, but is still dominated by the coffee addition and doesn't have much malt depth. That being said, it's suave and has some finesse to it. It even finishes pretty well. It's a nice ale.

Photo of mactrail
3.53/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Cold coffee in your cup.

Very attractive brownish foam on chestnut colored beer. Modestly fragrant with coffee. Medium body. I keep thinking of Hostess cream-filled chocolate cupcakes. Coffee flavor is main thing, much like Kahlua liqueur. Just a touch of black patent malt sourness. Some sweetness. Vanilla malt on the lips. Hops not very strong.

Tastes stronger than it apparently is. Flavor gets tiresome after a few swallows, but it's certainly one of the better coffee flavors.

Photo of whitekiboko
3.5/5  rDev -15.5%

Photo of 13esd
3.5/5  rDev -15.5%

Photo of GuisseppeFranco
3.5/5  rDev -15.5%

Photo of exposur3
3.5/5  rDev -15.5%

Photo of patre_tim
3.5/5  rDev -15.5%

Photo of ygtbsm94
3.5/5  rDev -15.5%

Photo of yeahnatenelson
3.5/5  rDev -15.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Big thanks to Onenote81 for sending me a second bottle - definitely helped me confirm my feelings about the first. Thanks!

Appearance -- Pours a dark brown with one finger of dirty tan head that quickly dissolves into a dirty halo.

Smell -- Espresso, cocoa, soft caramels, and mild woodsmoke. Very inviting.

Taste -- Roast malt, gas station coffee, cocoa, and toffee. As the beer warms the alcohol becomes much more apparent, akin to drinking a Black Russian. Lingering flavor of stale coffee.

Mouthfeel -- Medium-full body with an abundance of sharp, prickly carbonation.

Drinkability -- Not bad, though a bit uninspired. The coffee fade is apparent, the carbonation is on the sharp side, and for the abv it tastes too boozy. While I'm glad I got to try it, this one didn't live up to its reputation.

Photo of stakem
3.5/5  rDev -15.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Thanks to Psycohops for sharing on 1/22/11.

This bomber was dated Jan '09 and it was poured into a snifter. It appears a dark brown color with lighter brown around the edges. A finger of big bubbly head appears and slowly recedes. Quite a creamy looking head that leaves plenty of lace about the glass. A swirl revived more than a finger of head.

The smell of this brew is coffee mostly with some citrus bean and earthy components. A little bit of musty grain is evident along with a characteristic that seems quite nutty.

The taste is citrusy from seemingly a combination of hops and coffee beans. A light twangy aspect of alcohol is evident along with a musty grain flavor. Roasty with chocolate and coffee throughout. A note of slight oxidation is present.

This is a medium bodied brew with an aggressive level of carbonation that is fizzy, bubbly and prickly on the tongue. Overall quite earthy and drinkable. There is seemingly no indication of alcohol in this brew. For a coffee offering that was 2 years old, I was impressed that it didn't seem to drop out much. I wonder if coffee character that drops out in some brews is the product of different means of adding the coffee that was brewed or aging over beans. Regardless, I'd like to try this one fresh to have a comparison.

Photo of JohnnyK
3.5/5  rDev -15.5%

Photo of belljt33
3.5/5  rDev -15.5%

Photo of rolltide8425
3.5/5  rDev -15.5%

Photo of greencovesteve
3.5/5  rDev -15.5%

Photo of Jadjunk
3.46/5  rDev -16.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

"Adhering to the strict philosophy of the Pisgah brewers, this mouth watering coffee stout is brewed just miles downstream from America's most beautiful watershed. Brewed with coffee beans from asheville Coffee Roasters, and weighing in at a respectable 6.8% abv, the aroma of fresh coffee leaps from the glass, and finishes slightly dry. Treat yourself to the finest coffee stout this season, Unfiltered for your enjoyment. Respect tradition. Love beer. Treat Yourself!"

Poured from a 22 oz. bomber to a snifter. Served above 48º Fahrenheit.

(Appearance) Pours a silk foamy brown tone head with a slightly above average retention. Body is a dark brown with red highlights. Sediment heavy on the bottom, light flecks don't quite settle. Decent head quality, a little crisp and doesn't last long and lacing is thin. A decent appearance but worthy of much more. 3.25

(Smell) I am slightly put off by the aroma, perhaps by its dryness or the acid presence which makes a big part of the aroma. Bitter coffee bean notes forward and a chalky chocolate chip cookie. Earthy hop presence in places. Mild tones of char beyond a generally clean aroma. Relatively light on the nose, with a lesser balance towards sweetness and a bigger emphasis on bitterness and tart black coffee, light on the creamy notes. Most interesting is a doughy dry yeast aroma with some slight notes of tart fruit. The coffee notes are in decent balance with the other aromas in this beer, as there seems plenty of substance to be had. Potency is medium-high. 3.5

(Taste) Most interesting. Front has a fruity juice tartness, followed through with roasty chocolate notes. Mild black mocha coffee finish and a hint of char. Very heavy emphasis on fruit, quite interesting and a bit unusual for my expectations of a coffee stout, but not an unwelcome variation. The balance is actually quite decent and dryness isn't overwhelming. 3.5

(Mouthfeel) Oily slickness with a mild creaminess on the finish. Tartness in the body is really a confusion to the appropriate texture, slickness and creaminess is probably the best bet nonetheless. Body is just shy of medium for an Imperial Stout, medium/high amongst all beers. Alcohol presence is largely concealed. 3.75

(Overall) My thought is that this beer is a bit older than anticipated and that the yeast have had some fun transforming the beer. It wasn't a terrible transformation, just a much fruitier beer than I had anticipated with a bit less coffee and roasty flavors than I had desired. I hope to get a really fresh batch of this beer in the near future so that I can confirm these suspicions, as this beer currently seems unfocused, and perhaps misguided, at the worst. 3.25

Pisgah Brewing Company's
Valdez
3.46/5.00

Photo of nlmartin
3.45/5  rDev -16.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Blind Bomber #2 Firing this one off live. The beer started out cold and was poured into an Imperial Pint glass. The beer will be allowed to warm to a desirable temperature. After about 20 minutes of wait time sip wait sip wait some more the beer is ready to go!

A- 3.5 The body of the beer is almost straight black. The head didnt last long at all and resolved to a thin ring of lightly creamed coffee coloration. No lacing to speak of on my glass.

S 3.5 The aroma is of darkly roasted coffee. A bit sweet and a bit chared.

T 3.5 Dark roasted lightly sweetened coffee. The char on the finish keeps the sweetness in check. Not bad but want a little something more.

M / D 3 / 3.5 The body of the beer is just shy of medium the carbonation levels are low but I think this is a good thing for this beer. The beer was easy to drink. A bit one dimensional on the coffee. Not a bad stout but think I might pass this one up.

Reveal: This beer was a want. Pisgah Valdez going to have to go out on a limb on this one and state its lacking a bit to be an Imperial Stout. Thanks Sholland119 for sending this beer my way!

Photo of DavoleBomb
3.4/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured into a snifter. Not quite sure how 6.8% ABV justifies the "imperial" designation, but whatever.

4.0 A: Light black in color if that makes any sense. Two fingers of frothy light brown head with not quite average retention and not really any lacing.

5.0 S: Awesome! I had no idea this was a coffee stout. Given that, I'm bumping the appearance from a 3.5 to a 4 since I know how coffee does a number on head retention. Perfect coffee aroma - in my face, yet not overbearing. Instead of being balance with sweetness, there's more roastiness behind it in the form of roasted barley. As it warms, semi-sweet chocolate and rich caramel come out. Excellent.

3.0 T: I'm loving the coffee in the taste, but it's much more one dimensional than the nose. There just isn't enough of anything else to balance the powerful coffee. This is understandable given my qualms with the mouthfeel. The coffee covers up whatever else is in there.

2.5 M: Light body. With a thicker body this one would have been a lot better. The extra residual sugar would also have balanced out the coffee taste. Carbonation is a bit higher than I'd like as well, but that is trivial compared to the body problem.

3.0 D: This beer could be fabulous if they upped the mouthfeel to a medium or thicker body. Although I love the strong coffee flavor, it needs some strong malts to supplement it.

Photo of coreyfmcdonald
3.38/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle poured into a goblet

A: Pours black with a finger of dark tan head. Great retention.

S: Intense roast, burnt coffee, that's about it.

T: Again, intense roast and burnt coffee. Spicy, medium hop bitterness.

M: A bit thin and a tad overcarbonated.

O: I'm thinking this isn't overly fresh. The coffee flavor is no longer fresh, but the stout characteristics are quite nice.

Photo of biglite351
3.35/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - touch of red at the edges. Creamy dark tan head that leaves some lacing.

S - chocolate syrup, like I'm a hot fudge sundae, coffee and a bitter shot in the finish.

T - cold coffee with fudge in it. Malts in the background. The bitter shot in the scent is present in the flavor as well.

M - mild coating, but a strong tingle on sides of tongue.

O - I could have one but would then opt for something without the bitter hit.

Photo of acurtis
3.25/5  rDev -21.5%

Photo of westcoastbeerlvr
3.25/5  rDev -21.5%

Photo of UnDeadly
3.23/5  rDev -22%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle, Glass stein

Appearance - Pitch black, with a tan head that foamed easily. Generous carbonation maintains the head for some time, though lacing was minimal.

Smell - Toasted coffee almost exclusively, with muted notes of earth and biscuits.

Taste - Coffee notes come in quickly, and then fade to a semi-dry, toasty finish. Nothing remarkable really.

Mouth Feel - Overcarbonated for the style, and too dry/astringent. Body feels thin and unremarkable.

Drinkability - Price wasn't horrible, $6.50 I think, and it's a local brew which is always good to support. ABV keeps it drinkable as well.

Really not impressed, to the point that I will actually try this beer again just in case something is off in my palette. It's priced right, and I do enjoy supporting a local brewery, especially one as innovative as Pisgah. Their Vortex II was excellent, and this one was rather boring.

Photo of dirtylou
3.15/5  rDev -23.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Consumed a few times in the past 2 weeks, both on-tap and bottled

Classification as a Double Stout is quite misleading. The bottled version is over-carbonated and may be confused as *gasp* infected. It just isn't right - fruity and tangy with a metallic finish. On-draft, its an iced coffee overload and is really a nice beer. Unfortunately, the most recent bottling doesn't translate and I was really quite embarrassed to open this for people not familiar with Pisgah.

Photo of craytonic
3.15/5  rDev -23.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: looks and pours like a cup of joe with about a 2.5" head.

Smell: Fresh coffee with sugar and a little milk.

Taste: Same as the smell, plus a hint of dark rum.

Mouthfeel: Much lighter than I would expect in an Imperial Stout

Drinkability: Low, unless you love coffee beers, then add a point to each category.

I can't give a very good score for watery coffee, particularly since others (peche mortel, sexual chocolate) are so much better.

Pisgah Valdez from Pisgah Brewing Co.
93 out of 100 based on 307 ratings.