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Pisgah Valdez - Pisgah Brewing Co.

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

291 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 291
Reviews: 193
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 11.54%
Wants: 177
Gots: 20 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Pisgah Brewing Co. visit their website
North Carolina, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 12-02-2007)
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Photo of paco1029384756
4.28/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle thanks to Kegatron.

Pours black with a large foamy white head, taking a good amount of time to settle completely; a beautiful beer.

Scent of mild bitter coffee, oatmeal, cinnamon, chocolate, and brown sugar. After nearly a year, the coffee is still present but fading.

Taste of chocolate, oatmeal, coffee, roasted malts, brown sugar and toffee. Finishes with a bitter chocolate and coffee flavor. Not as potent as it was when it was fresh, but I could drink this all day long even now.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied with a biting carbonation.

paco1029384756, Dec 26, 2009
Photo of mikeyv35
4.29/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Date: 06/21/2011
Type: 22oz. Bomber
Vintage: 2010
Glass: Sweetwater Tulip

Pours a jet black in color w/ a 1 finger tan head that produces nice sticky lacing. Aromas of coffee beans, roasted malts, chocolate, and subtle vanilla. The flavor starts w/ initial chocolate sweetness, leading into smooth coffee, and finishes w/ mild vanilla and ever so slight hop bitterness. Medium bodied and finishes dry. I could drink this brew all day especially w/ the lower end ABV.

Overall, this is one of my favorite brews out of the South region and the best coffee stout coming out of the South hands down. The brew is extremely flavorful, but yet very drinkable, just fantastic stuff!

mikeyv35, Apr 14, 2013
Photo of chinchill
4.3/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Strongly flavored coffee stout. Sampled at the brewery.

A- very dark black pour with a tan head. Exceptionally durable beige head.

S - coffee! [4.25]

T- Stronger coffee flavor than any of the few other coffee stouts or porters I've sampled. Somewhat lacking in complexity: imagine a very fine stout + a cold expresso. Excellent sweet/bitter balance.

M: smooth [4.25]

D - an excellent brew best imbibed slowly in many small sips.

{revisited at brewery in Sept. 2012 -- high ratings generally confirmed, but felt it was a tad over carbonated this time}

chinchill, Sep 14, 2010
Photo of farrago
4.3/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

You get two fingers of head, profuse amount of larger bubbles has it dissolving quickly, very deep tan color, minimal stickiness to the lacing. The liquid is 100% black, not a hint of color to be found. The nose smells like a Starbucks at 8:00 AM, coffee, coffee, coffee fills the air, the heavy roast extends to the dark chocolate, toasted coconut accents, dollop of plum and cherry fruit scents, one assumes hops were used in the creation of this brew but nothing evident in the nose. Full-bodied, curiously foamy mouth entry, albeit the carbonation trails off after that. Heavily roasted espresso dominates, bitter and oily, forms a thick cloud of perfume in the mouth. Bittersweet dark chocolate, honey, uncooked oatmeal, what really saves the beer is the underlying sweetness and semi-creamy texture, it gives you breathing room to enjoy the coffee without excessive bitterness. As with many beers of such tight focus, if you agree with the vibe it'll knock your socks off, if not, after one glass you'll get bored.

farrago, Mar 29, 2010
Photo of July2Nov
4.31/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Great overall beer from those brewing greats of Pisgah. I preferred the thinner body, along w/ the lower abv%, as it tended to bring the coffee accents out. Plus, it was an easy drinker.

This one is all about the coffee. The roasted flavor is there, then a sweet creaminess, & finishes w/ a sweet, slight chalkiness. The coffee lingers on the tongue way after you've taken your last sip. Truly outstanding!

July2Nov, Jun 10, 2013
Photo of oberon
4.33/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I was glad to try this,had three at Barley's yesterday afternoon.Poured a jet black with tight formed mocha colored head that settled nicely into a creamy top.French roast coffee and bitter chocolate dominate the aromas,the coffee really hits home nicely.Flavors are also dominate by French roast coffee and bitter chocolate,but there is some molasses-like flavor to lend sweetness as well as a bit of earth in the finish.Very nicely done,heavy roast but enough sweetness to make it complete,well done.

oberon, Apr 20, 2010
Photo of EGledhill
4.33/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

So for my 50th review and since I'm celebrating my last day working at the shithole I work at, I let my girlfriend pull any beer out of my cellar to split with me. She came up the steps with this bottle. Bitch may be a keeper after all. Bottle courtesy of akorsak. Thanks Adam.

A.Poured pitch black with a fluffy brown head.

S. Smells like liquid sex... Huge burnt coffee and dark chocolate notes to this one. If you got a coffee maker, brew up a pot leave about 2-3 inches of coffee in the pot, turn the warmer on and leave it there for 8 hours. that's what this smells like.

T. taste holds true to the smell. burnt coffee and dark chocolate bitterness. Bitterness takes this over as it warms and alcohol makes a slight presence. One tasty fucking beer.

M. Mouthfeel slacks a little. maybe a little too much carbonation and a little too thin. the only thing I feel this beer lacked.

D. Drinks like a champ if you can handle a little bitterness. I kind of wanted to grab a Rocky Patel 92 Robusto out of the humidor, sit on the porch and live the good life for an hour sipping this.

Overall this is a great beer to seek out at least once. Would love to get one or two more for the cellar

EGledhill, Nov 15, 2008
Photo of zeff80
4.33/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Poured out an opaque, dark brown color with a tan, thick, two-finger head of foam.

S - This had great java aroma like a great cup o' joe. Some burnt toast aromas, too.

T - It tasted of dark coffee with great roasted malt flavor. It has a nice bitter grassiness.

M - It was soft and smooth. It seemed a little light bodied for an Imperial Stout.

D - This is a great coffee stout. I am not a coffee drinker but I love this brew.

zeff80, May 18, 2009
Photo of Wasatch
4.33/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks goes out to injuredreserve for this brew.

22oz. Bomber

Pours a very nice black color, nice carbonation, with a nice one-finger creamy light tan head, with some nice sticky lacing left behind. The nose is malty, with some nice chocolate/coffee notes, with some nice licorice/vanilla notes. The taste is really nice, malty, very nice chocolate/coffee notes, and some nice sweetness from the vanilla note. Medium body, has a nice creamyness to this Imp. Stout. Very Drinkable, a nice surprise.

Wasatch, Feb 08, 2011
Photo of Georgiabeer
4.33/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I had this beer quite awhile ago and I'm just now getting around to reviewing it. Thanks very much to Brickstoredave and RustyDiamond for the chance to try it. I'm a big fan of the bigger beers from Pisgah, and this beer doesn't disappoint. It's very good. That being said, It's not my absolute favorite RIS, or even coffee stout, but it is very nice.

Pours black with fairly light carbonation and head- I'll chalk that up to the growler. The aroma is all coffee, coffee, coffee, with just a touch of dry malt in the background to support the coffee. This is very much a black coffee tasting stout- no cream here to lighten the experience. As much as I like that, I think a little creaminess brings out more of the chocolate notes found in coffee and balances some of the acids and tannins. The flavor has some of those nice chocolate and earthy characteristics of a good cup of Sumatra, and obviously good quality coffee was used. I'm always amazed at coffee and chocolate stouts that skimp on the quality of these additions- they should be the best available. There is a slight burst of acidity at the finish that I ould have wanted to see a bit tempered, but overall more flavors of laser like coffee. A bit of a one-note wonder, but what a nice note! Very smooth and drinkable and the coffee flavors are huge, but the overall body could be a bit more robust and the flavors could be a bit more varied, otherwise its another success from this great brewery.

Georgiabeer, Apr 19, 2008
Photo of csmiley
4.33/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - Pours nearly black in color. Minimal light gets through at the edges and reveals a medium to dark brown. The tan head tops out at an inch and recedes quickly. It ends up as a nice thick foamy cap that really makes the beer appear more enticing. Some lace remains in the glass but not too much.

S - Coffee really stands out in the aroma at first. Smells like fresh ground coffee to me. It gets very quickly followed by a nice supporting cast of bittersweet chocolate and cocoa. It finishes off with a smokey dark malt aroma. Alcohol is not noted at all.

T - Ground coffee and espresso really dominate the flavor. It pushes the envelope but never gets too out of control. Some chocolate is able to push through midway. It's mostly bittersweet and starts to smooth out towards the end. Other flavors that come in are charcoal, cherry, and you guessed it, more coffee. Finishes off with more of a brewed coffee flavor. Alcohol is almost completely hidden.

M - Light bodied for the style. Carbonation is light. Bitter and chalky at first and finishes a little dry.

D - Drinkability is really good. Alcohol is hidden well behind all the flavors. The coffee comes across as pretty strong but it really does work well. As it warms this beer becomes smoother and all the flavors start working together more and more. The larger bottle (750 ml) works well for this beer. After one pint, all you really want is...another pint. I would definitely have this beer again if ever given the opportunity.

csmiley, Jul 27, 2009
Photo of jrallen34
4.33/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle provided by Nate, drank from my Hill Farmstead glass... Dark brown with a nice light tan head, good retention and lacing... The aroma is tons of fresh coffee, has the Intelligentsia of HBI... The taste is equally nice, good light coffee but its fresh. Super easy to drink.

jrallen34, Feb 13, 2011
Photo of orbitalr0x
4.35/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

September 2008 bottle.

Deep black pour with an inch of light tan foam that leaves some spotty lacing and stays around for what seems like forever. Looks good in the glass. Aroma is bursting with fresh roasted coffee that's bright and vibrant. Smooth roast underneath with chocolate notes. Crisp maltiness throughout.

First sip smooth, clean roasted malt upfront that's immediately coasted by fresh coffee flavors. Chocolate works its way in along with a velvety smoothness. Bitterness hits on the way down but it's rather mellow. Finishes dry with lingering coffee flavors. Tasty.

Mouthfeel is smooth and medium bodied, a bit on the lighter side but that just makes it easier to drink. Overall, a damn fine coffee stout and organic to boot. Very glad I got a chance to try this. Thanks to dmeadows.

orbitalr0x, Jul 31, 2009
Photo of prototypic
4.35/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Many, many thanks to csmiley for a very generous birthday gift. Very much appreciated.

Appearance: I'm really close to awarding a "5" here. This is a gorgeous beer. It's a very, very dark brown color (bordering on black). No light's getting through, even around the edges. The head is mocha colored and stands a very tall three and a half fingers. It's really close to perfect.

Smell: The nose is nice, but isn't quite a standout. It's actually a little weak in the strength department. Coffee is the the primary feature. It's a very strong coffee scent that nearly buries everything else. As a coffee fanatic, I can't complain about that. It's a fine smelling beer. But, it is lacking in complexity. There's some chocolate and roasted malts. But, that's about it. All in all, it's a nice smelling beer...if you're a coffee fan.

Taste: Wow. The coffee force is strong with this one. The flavor profile is nearly a carbon copy of the nose. But, the delivery is definitely better. The coffee flavor is very strong and flavorful. It's really difficult (almost impossible) for me to imagine a coffee averse being getting into this beer. Liking coffee seems like a prerequisite. This beer has some serious java mojo. There's a little chocolate and roasted malt flavor there to make it interesting. But, the coffee/espresso-esque flavor is a homerun. I really love this beer. There's not much going on in the hop department. Adding a little hop punch to this beer would damn near make it perfect. No alcohol is noted. It finishes sweet and bitter (in that java kind of way).

Mouthfeel/Drinkability: This one's light bodied. It's honestly a little too thin. Carbonation is pretty active. Nonetheless, it goes down very easy and has a relatively smooth feel. Drinkability is pretty high for me. I really love the flavor and the abv is not high enough to intimidate. My bottle indicates 6.8% abv.

I've been anxious to try Pisgah Valdez for quite a while. No doubt it's a damn fine beer. It is a beer that's probably reserved for coffee lovers. If you don't like coffee, you're not going to like it. But, for what it is, it's impressive. Very impressive. I do think it could be improved a little. In particulart, the nose could use some strength and it could stand a little thicker of a body. As far as flavor goes, lots and lots of win here. Highly recommended. Thanks, Chris. This one's been a real treat.

prototypic, Nov 13, 2008
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4.35/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

When I opened this thing it let out a loud hiss of carbonation then beer started coming out of the bottle I had to get this into my Pisgah pint glass pronto. Pours black with a light brown head. Smells like COFFEE!!! A big strong cup of java, there are some nice sweet maltiness in there as well, but not much. Taste just like it smells lots and lots of coffee goodness then some nice sweet malts to help balance it out. This one of the more intense coffee brews I've had. If you're looking for coffee then look no further than this one. The carbonation is a little much I like my stouts a little smoother and creamier.

scifan, Apr 03, 2009
Photo of zeledonia
4.35/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to n2185 for including this in a recent trade.

Pours black, no light even at the edges, with a solid two-finger medium-tan head. Head retention is okay, and lacing is good.

Smell is all nice smooth slightly bitter coffee. The malts are there, but they definitely take a back seat to the coffee. More like coffee than beer.

Taste is, well, delicious. Really nice coffee flavors throughout, with a hint of bitterness, but not the overbrewed bitter character that brings so many coffee stouts down. The malts again have second billing, but they bring in a bit of chocolate and a decent richness. Finishes smooth, with a gentle lingering bitterness.

Body is mid-way between a typical stout and imperial stout. Not light, but not the syrupy thick stuff that many impys are. Goes down smooth. Carbonation is on the high side; enough to tickle the mouth.

This is one of my new favorite coffee stouts. A step below Founders Breakfast Stout and Wake 'n Bake, particularly in the complexity of the flavor, but really freakin' good. The coffee flavors are present but smooth, without the sharpness and high bitterness that many coffee stouts deliver. The ABV is lower than a lot of the big coffee imperial stouts, which is nice - drinking a bomber of this myself isn't going to knock me flat.

zeledonia, Apr 30, 2011
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4.35/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Received in trade with McNuts. Thanks man!

A: pours deep dark brown, tan colored head, only a collar sticks around, completely opaque, quite dark for a 6.8 % stout.

S: the nose nails the coffee stout thing... huge robust bold roasted coffee intertwined seamlessly with roasted malts and cocoa. Very similar to the nose of Breakfast Stout or Peche Mortel... this is a good thing.

T: tastes starts off with burnt roast, a touch of bitterness from the coffee, this is followed by waves of coffee, espresso, and dark chocolate. The finish is all chocolate with an aftertaste of coffee beans. Delicious.

MF: thin body for style, but not unexpected considering the abv, somewhat high carbonation

O: this one is a winner. Two of my favorite beverages packaged into one. Yum.

homebrew311, Oct 27, 2011
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4.35/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pour a very dark brown with a big fluffy medium brown head. Fades slowly, leaving a decent film of lacing on the glass.

S: Huge coffee aroma. Like fresh roasted beans. Pretty much dominates, maybe a little chocolate creeps in.

T: Oddly not a coffee overload. It's got a bitter coffee flavor up front but then turns into a nice roasted malt char with lots of dark chocolate. Surprisingly well balanced and delicious.

M: Medium bodied, smooth. Bit of coffee bitterness lingers in the mouthfeel.

O: Was expecting a coffee bomb but wow this one surprised me. Wonderfully drinkable stout with a strong and tasty coffee element BUT it's balanced well for a great brew. I'm not even a coffee drinker and I'm pretty "meh" on most coffee beers. This is a must-try for ANY stout lover, but especially a coffee stout lover.

Dope, May 24, 2012
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4.35/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours black with a thick creme head. Nose is coffee, yes. I have been trying a lot of coffee beers lately it seems. This one seems fresher than most. Nice robust coffee. Thick and well bodied. This is purely a coffee beer. Feel is smooth on liquid and a bit vibrant on carbonation. If you want a coffee beer, this is a good one to go for. Great to try.

RblWthACoz, Mar 10, 2009
Photo of AKBelgianBeast
4.38/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks goes out to stopbarking for tossing this one in on round one of the LNBA BIF.

Classic pisgah 750 corked and caged. Pours a deep black with a fizzy tan head that recedes relatively quickly and leaves minimal lace.

Nose is strong coffee and roasted malt. A bit of fresh grain.

Taste follows. Very very nice coffee flavor, roasted malt, and black barley, Some hop flavors in here, but they are pretty minimal. Anise, more coffee. Black coffee. Bean bitterness. Some slight chocolate here. Would like a bit more creaminess. Wonderful coffee profile in this beer. Black but not burnt. Very nice.

Mouthfeel struggles a bit here. It is quite a bit overcarbonated for the style. Thin in the mouth, and not enough creamy viscosity for the style. Low abv does not assist this either. This is sort of a one and a half stout.

Drinkability is solid, could defenitely put more than one of these away without really thinking about it. Especially with the easy abv.

Overall a very unique coffee stout, with the high carbonation. I am not a big fan of this added bubbly as of yet. The organic coffee used in this brew is quite something. Very very nice coffee profile. Roasty and toasty. A very nice stout from the MASTERS of organic brewing at Pisgah. After Vortex 1 and this one, Pisgah is certainly on the top of my list as far as the best organic breweries out there, and up there for breweries in general as well. Great beer.

AKBelgianBeast, Oct 15, 2008
Photo of MuenchenerKindl
4.38/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from the tap at Barley's Taproom in Asheville, NC to a pint glass. The liquid is a dark brown to black with good carbonation. The head was a big 2+ fingers but our bar tender toped it off to give a most generous pour. The head when delivered was 1 thick finger of off white creamy foam it had good retention and left good lace.

The smell was like Coffee in a nice stout. The medium roast coffee smell was great, melded with some classic stout aromas like chocolate and light char.

The taste followed well, big coffee flavor, this is easy in the top 5 coffee beers I have had. Must not have had too much alcohol as I had 2 pints and not a buzz, could be 5-6 %. That says something, 43 taps and I have 2 of the same. LOL Other flavors include mild char & light chocolate.

The mouthfeel was good, better then medium body, and nice carbonation.

The drinkability was great, I sampled 5-6 different brews before asking for another of this same. I was told the brewer only did 5 barrels, so if Coffee Stout is your thing get it while you can.

Prosit und Zum Wohl. MK

MuenchenerKindl, Nov 24, 2007
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4.38/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to mikesgroove for the chance to try this great beer. I often find myself at odds over what to make of the american double / imp stout category here on BA. I think I have a similar challenge with coffee beers. I like a rich coffee, low acidity, arabic beans, roasted to a level like starbucks medium brews but not french roast. So, what the heck does all that mean to this beer and or review? No idea. Ok, kidding. This beer was the september release, definitely foamy as my pilsner glass foamed over completely. The aroma is wonderful medium roasted coffee with an undertone of chocolate. Taste follows the aroma and by mid bottle through to the end this one is smooth and well balanced. I would have liked a slightly bigger body and mouthfeel but that's a minor aside to a great beer.

barleywinebrewer, Oct 05, 2008
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4.38/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A: Pours an opaque yet clear jet black in color with minimal amounts of gentle visible carbonation along the surface of the beer and moderate amounts of cola brown highlights at the edges.

S: Strong aromas of slightly sweet coffee/espresso - like one that has cream and sugar added to it. Very light notes of roasted malts and just a hint of chocolate.

T: Upfront there is a light flavor of roasted and slightly ashy malts that is followed by strong flavors of coffee/espresso - reminds me of a cuban coffee with milk and sugar. Moderate amounts of bitterness which lingers for quite awhile.

M: Medium bodied with moderate to heavy amounts of carbonation. Smooth, almost creamy.

O: If you enjoy coffee, this is a beer that you really need to try... I love coffee and I really enjoy this one. Super easy to drink with well hidden alcohol. Definitely my favorite beer from this brewery.

dbrauneis, Sep 07, 2013
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4.38/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Picked up a 22oz bomber at Peabody's in Boone. Poured into a standard shaker pint...

A: Near pitch black, maybe some dark brown in there; forms a nice, one-finger, thick, dark mocha head; leaves a few strands of lace and there's virtually no retention after a few minutes.

S: Smells pretty darn scrumptious; rich, rich coffee aroma with some caramel and toffee; maybe some sweet malts a la malted milk / Whoppers, too.

T: HUGE coffee! Wow! Super duper roasted malts; leaves a lasting burnt malt bitterness... this coffee bitter dominated any hop bite... crazy.

M: Near full-bodied and creamy... nice.

D: Enjoyable, yet more of a beer to savor; coffee is almost overpowering on this one! This is the biggest coffee stout I've had!

jpro, Jan 21, 2011
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4.38/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a Pisgah bomber, in my possession since DLD this year, capped not corked. The label shows it's organic which doesn't really matter to me at all. The beer was dark brown chocolate color with a thick off-white foam that lasted forever. I figured the coffee aroma/taste would be lost in this old bottle but it came through nicely. The java smell is actually complementary to some malts that are more sweet than roasted in character, together the malts and coffee come off very close to Founders Breakfast Stout. Same with the taste, I found this to taste a bit like an aged FBS (which is a good thing, I've had some old FBS that was better than the new stuff). The body is on the thick side which suits the style, overall a very fine coffee stout that I'd love to get again.

TurdFurgison, Nov 07, 2009
Pisgah Valdez from Pisgah Brewing Co.
92 out of 100 based on 291 ratings.