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Pisgah Valdez - Pisgah Brewing Co.

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Pisgah ValdezPisgah Valdez

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

293 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 293
Reviews: 193
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 11.54%
Wants: 177
Gots: 19 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Pisgah Brewing Co. visit their website
North Carolina, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 12-02-2007)
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Photo of mactrail
3.53/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Cold coffee in your cup.

Very attractive brownish foam on chestnut colored beer. Modestly fragrant with coffee. Medium body. I keep thinking of Hostess cream-filled chocolate cupcakes. Coffee flavor is main thing, much like Kahlua liqueur. Just a touch of black patent malt sourness. Some sweetness. Vanilla malt on the lips. Hops not very strong.

Tastes stronger than it apparently is. Flavor gets tiresome after a few swallows, but it's certainly one of the better coffee flavors.

mactrail, Apr 07, 2011
Photo of pwoods
3.55/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Mikesgroove for the bottle.

750ml corked and caged brown bottle poured into a snifter.

A: Pours a dark cola or root beer color with lots of carbonation. A big dark khaki head forms very frothy and only holds about a minute. Some lacing.

S: Plenty of coffee and chocolate to go around. Very sweet and I'm assuming Belgian candi sugar. Some nice roasty notes. Has a nice hop backing.

T/M: More of the big coffee notes and less of the chocolate. A bit too sweet with more of the Belgian candi sugar. A good hop character backing things up. Carbonation is very high and reflects on the taste.

D: I'm a bit disappointed. I had really been looking forward to this and it just wasn't everything I'd hoped for. I love coffee beers but just didn't dig this one as much. Decent but not the greatest.

pwoods, Oct 09, 2008
Photo of Crosling
3.55/5  rDev -14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Black colored ale, with ruby edges. Very frothy head varies in color from light tan to dark tan. One dimensional nose smells of espresso, but lacks malt aromatics. Flavor has some complexity to it and tastes nice, but is still dominated by the coffee addition and doesn't have much malt depth. That being said, it's suave and has some finesse to it. It even finishes pretty well. It's a nice ale.

Crosling, Nov 15, 2008
Photo of rhoadsrage
3.58/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a snifter)

A- This beer pours a jet black cocoa color with a tan head that boils away after a bit. There is a few tiny bubbles that glide up the side of the glass.

S- The ground coffee has a light breakfast roast quality with some earthy oat note in the finish.

T- The ground coffee has a slightly tart note and a fruity ester quality in the coffee's finish. There is a vegital capsicum flavor without any heat in the finish. A light inky hint lingers on the lips. As the beer warms there is a soft mellow black malt quality that comes through in the finish.

M- This beer has a medium-light mouthfeel with a tight fizz that scrubs the finish and no real alcohol.

O- This beer has some nice mellow coffee flavors but not much stout support and it finishes a bit vegital. As the beer warms the coffee takes on a bit of a stale quality.

rhoadsrage, Jun 22, 2011
Photo of wedge
3.58/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

September 2008

Black with a slight sliver of brown at the bottom of the glass. Tall, loosely foamy brown head. Coffee, milk, and sugar aromas upfront with some chocolaty roastiness. Roasted coffee and cream flavors...sweet and tasty...but there's no depth. Take away the coffee and would this be a quality stout? Medium bodied and way too carbonated for the style. A slight bit of warming in the throat which is confusing considering the low ABV.

I love coffee, I love coffee stouts...this one was disappointing. Not anything remotely close to an Imperial Stout either, though I don't think it's supposed to be. Maybe it's just this batch, but this beer is highly overrated.

wedge, Sep 28, 2008
Photo of womencantsail
3.58/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours black in color with a finger of tan head. A bit of spicy coffee to go along with lots of roasted malt and maybe a hint of dark chocolate. There is just a bit of vanilla type sweetness. The flavor is slightly sweet but still fairly heavy on the coffee, which adds a little bit of spiciness. Lots of roasted malt and a bit of dark chocolate. Just an okay coffee stout.

womencantsail, Jul 17, 2012
Photo of brdc
3.58/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks UncleJedi for this sample.

September 08 bottle. Pitch black, tan head, decent retention and lacing.
Aroma, just like the taste, is coffee, and more coffee.
Medium bodied, near full, but besides the coffee, and different than the growler version, not a lot going beyond the coffee, and even that, not as nice as I remembered.
Something happened between the original version and this one; hopefully can be corrected for future bottlings, but is not nearly as impressive as I remember the growler. For coffee lovers, might strill be a good one, but lacks dimension/complexity.

brdc, Oct 26, 2008
Photo of plaid75
3.6/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On draft at the brewery.

Poured a deep black hue with a wisp of off white foam.

The smell featured a pure full blown coffee grounds.

The taste consisted of a strong bitter black coffee with elements of charcoal.

The mouthfeel was toward the thinner side of the style.

If you like coffee you'll enjoy this beer. A bit thin on the mouthfeel however.

plaid75, Nov 10, 2012
Photo of BarrytheBear
3.6/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle dated December 2009 courtesy of Robert. Thanks for the opportunity!

Pours a dark brown. Head dissipates almost immediately leaving a thin ring along the edges.

Smell is mostly coffee with a touch of chocolate and caramel. Not robust and in your face, but still present for being nearly a year and half old.

Coffee is front and center. Caramel and roast provide support. Easy drinking and rather simplistic. This isn't a dig on the beer, it's just an easy drinking coffee stout with no real bells and whistles. Robert was kind enough to send a 2010 as well, so I'll have to do a comparison at some point.

A bit thin and slightly watery, which seems to me a problem for many coffee stouts. Overall, this was a nice light coffee stout that didn't overwhelm me after a long run.

BarrytheBear, Mar 20, 2011
Photo of DrJay
3.6/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Got this one recently from mikesgroove. Thanks!
Pretty much black, can't see through it even held up to the light. Longlasting, creamy brown cap. Lots of sticky lacing. Looks great! Tons of roast and coffee in the aroma, along with notes of toffee, lots of malt, and faint grassy hops. Moderate hop bitterness with some grassy, spicy presence. Fairly sweet, a little fruity up front, roast and coffee throughout. Dry cocoa. A little more than medium bodied with decent carbonation, mild alcohol warmth, and very dry. Pretty good overall. A little too dry, but still tasty.

DrJay, Nov 02, 2008
Photo of
3.63/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Growler at DLD, courtesy of NFLMVP - Thanks!

Poured a dark brown/black. Modest, brown colored head.

Coffee hit me first, coupled with roast. Not much in the way of sweet in the nose of this one. Maybe a hint of caramel.

More bitter than sweet, as a product of the coffee and roast. Hopping is pretty minimal, maybe a bit of grass. As with smell, not much sweet came through for me, just a bit of toffee. Looked for fruit, but didn't find much.

Mouthfeel was medium, felt kinda thin. Carbonation was low. Dry.

Good flavor, particularly if you like coffee. Thinner than I expected, especially with a name like Valdez. Pretty good stout, but better ones out there if you are looking for the coffee variety.

, Apr 30, 2008
Photo of mothman
3.63/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a snifter.

Pours a mocha tan head. Fades down quickly leaving no lace. Color is a deep brown, basically black.

Aroma: Nice coffee aroma, roasted malt, chocolate, grassy hops. I like the aroma a lot.

Taste: Tons of carbonation. Coffee and mocha flavors. Chocolate, cocoa, and earthy hops as well. I don't get a lot of flavors however, because of all the carbonation bubbles.

Mouthfeel: Over carbonated with a medium to full body. Creamy, but fizzy. Ends very dry. Not a fan of this.

Overall, this could be a lot better if there wasn't too much carbonation. I like the coffee flavors, but not something I'd go crazy for.

mothman, Dec 25, 2009
Photo of zep9865
3.65/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into Aecht snifter courtesy of aasher. Pours a solid black with mocha-tan foam head that leaves about a quarter-inch.

All kinds of chile on the nose with some coffee and dark chocolate. Am i reviewing an Imperial Stout?

Chile on the nose, just like the smell. Coffee is real solid as is the chocolate. More tangy than one would think.

Carbonation is slightly high for the style, but the coffee and chile help to balance it out.

Decent beer, but too much carbonation and lack of chewiness. Perhaps i should let it warm a little bit more?

zep9865, Jan 11, 2012
Photo of russpowell
3.68/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Got this on from Jw347, cheers Jon!

Pours mahogany with a finger of tan head. very good head retention & above average head retention

S: Much coffee & dark chocolate

T: In your face coffee, baker's chcolate & a touch of iron up front. Iron, roasted malt & Kona coffee as this warms, plus a hint of nuttyness & booze. finishes dry, with much coffee, & a hint of oakyness, on the verge of a 4.0

MF: Spritzy, medium bodied, & too wet for the style, thickens & warms you up as it warms

Drinks pretty good, ABV is well hidden, these beers heavy on coffee usually don't work for me, this is no exception. Glad I had a chance to try it, but, meh... expected much more. A beer that is NOT the sum of its parts, so far none of the pigsah beers from my home state have really knocked my socks off

russpowell, Nov 20, 2008
Photo of rayjay
3.68/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Excited to try my first brew from these guys. I have been known to dabble in organic beers so lets check them out. Poured into a DFH stemmed goblet, my new favorite glass thanks to my awesome fiancee.

Pull out the cork and BANG! One proudly carbonated beer that makes the perfect cap of tight foam, nice black beer. Looking good so far!

Absolutely reeks of coffee dust. Some roasted grain in there somewhere too...talk about a coffee bomb. Very well made aroma.

Tons of coffee on the pallet. Low bitterness and a rather dry finish. Nutty malt characteristics, interesting that pale malt is one of the primary flavors, sort of showing up the sweet and bitter roasted malts. A very good stout but a bit of a let down from the killer aroma. A bit of a jalapeño flavor in the background that I'm digging.

Too much carbonation makes the body seem too light, and makes the beer feel "prickly" and taste like you burned your mouth earlier in the day. Perhaps over-pitched in the bottle.

Drinkability remains above average since the beer is so interesting, but is definitely a bit hampered by the dryness and over-carbonation. Certainly a fine beer though.

rayjay, Apr 03, 2009
Photo of kasper
3.68/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Corked, caged bottle brewed in September 2008, consumed September 2008.

A: Hershey chocolate brown with a thick two finger frothy head the color of wet sand. Sheets of lacing peel down the glass.

S: Yeah, lots of fresh brewed bitter sweet black coffee. Espresso. Bit of chocolate. Almost as if inhaling finely ground coffee beans.

T: Lot of the nose on the taste. Palette is completely flushed with the taste of cold spend coffee and espresso. Coffee taste is raw, and natural, much on the bitter end.

M: Medium bodied with tingly, almost champagne-like carbonation.

D: A quality brew if you appreciate the taste of wet, natural coffee grounds. It could use a bit more sweetness. Overall, one of the lighter stouts you'd find in a corked, caged bottle.

kasper, Jan 25, 2009
Photo of Murchmac
3.73/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Taylor for sharing this impossible to get on the west coast treat. I thought this was a DIPA, but when it poured out I realized I was wrong.

Pours a nice foamy tan head, black from the waist down.

Has roasted coffee, olive? chocolate smells. Smells like a tan greek.

Coffe up front, some bitter hops shine through, but mostly coffee and chocolate.

A little too thin, but when it warms up and coats your tongue, very tasty residuals of choco-coffee. Not a lot of alcohol bit, which is good.

Overall an interesting beer, to be so complex and low abv is a job well done. Good on ya mates.

Murchmac, Jan 11, 2009
Photo of billab914
3.73/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2008 vintage poured from 750ml bottle. Poured pitch black with a thick two inch bubbly head. The head settled but kept a nice layer covering the top of the beer. Some decent lacing was also left on the glass as I drank it.

There is definitely a strong bitter coffee flavor to the aroma followed by a good amount of milk chocolate. Kind of has a mixture of chocolate milk, coffee and roastedness thing going on.

The taste is also strong with bitter coffee. It has less of the milk chocolate flavor found in the nose and more of the roasted bitterness. This is definitely one of the stronger coffee flavored beers I've had. It's a good flavor but the coffee seems to overpower a little. Some of the coffee beers I've rated higher just seemed to blend the beer flavors with the coffee better. If you like coffee though you will most likely like this a lot.

Mouthfeel is on the thicker side with moderate carbonation. Could have used a little less carbonation for my tastes. Drinkability is good, the coffee is strong for sure but it's a pretty nice coffee stout.

billab914, Apr 22, 2010
Photo of Mantooth
3.75/5  rDev -9.9%

Mantooth, Jan 08, 2013
Photo of rudylaw
3.75/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Another gem from MasterSki, sampled at the CE release. Hey, my GTOM taster is filled again... let's drink!

Pours a blackish tone with some brownish, ruby highlights. We have a solid tan head here.

Even though this is a 2008 bottle, I'm still getting tons of coffee in the nose. Very aromatic. Roasty, chocolatey goodness.

Same notes on the tongue, with some oatmeal perhaps, but this is really thin. Not a prototypical RIS by any stretch. The coffee is faded a bit, and we agree we'd like to try this one fresh for a proper rating in the future. Doesn't seem too complex. Straightforward coffee stout. Almost over-carbonated. I liked it a bit more at the beginning, but got bored with it at the end.

My second Pisgah beer, and while still quality, I'm not really keen on going out of my way for a third.

rudylaw, Oct 04, 2009
Photo of richkrull
3.75/5  rDev -9.9%

richkrull, Mar 31, 2013
Photo of Erdinger2003
3.75/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Deuane for this bottle...I finally got around to drinking this.

Pours a highly carbonated black colored liquid that has a dark red hue when thinned out into light. Lacing is not present, but small pieces of what would be a lacing trail slightly. Smells like bourbon with an almost sour note that I think comes from the roastiness meeting the bourbon. Almost light bodied, it feels highly attenuated with such carbonation and lighter feeling body.

It's fairly dry and seemingly higher in alcohol than what's presented on the label. The sourness of the bourbon meets the roastiness and right away a lot of flavor seems to be released from the palate due to the carbonation. The slightly sweeter bourbon does make an appearance after swallowing starting the aftertaste off nicely.

Mouthfeel is highly carbonated and light, making the overall drinkability go down slightly judging by mouthfeel alone.

Erdinger2003, Mar 19, 2009
Photo of jbriggs7
3.75/5  rDev -9.9%

jbriggs7, Aug 19, 2014
Photo of AngusOg
3.75/5  rDev -9.9%

AngusOg, Nov 29, 2012
Photo of Jlang2012
3.75/5  rDev -9.9%

Jlang2012, May 09, 2013
Pisgah Valdez from Pisgah Brewing Co.
92 out of 100 based on 293 ratings.