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Pisgah Valdez - Pisgah Brewing Co.

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

295 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 295
Reviews: 193
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 11.3%
Wants: 176
Gots: 18 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Pisgah Brewing Co. visit their website
North Carolina, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 12-02-2007)
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Photo of joe1510
4.2/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

64oz Growler

7.2%

I get the opportunity to sample my first from Pisgah thanks to Mikesgroove, thanks Mike! Valdez is a fine looking beer! Pours black with some transparency in the form of chestnut highlights at the bottom of the glass. The dirty tan head grew to a solid finger and a half on the pour and fell rather slowly to a skimming and respectable collar. The head leaves a patch or two of lacing here and there.

Wow! This beer is not really beer! It's cold coffee! Well, that's what the aroma suggests anyways. High quality fresh pressed coffees grabs the nose and never let's go. As I stir the head I still get massive coffee but a drop of cream and a pinch of sugar have been added. As the head dies back down it's back to black coffee.

Big coffee in the flavor as well, obviously. I wonder if there's any beer in here? Although the coffee is everywhere it just doesn't live up to the intensity of the aroma, which would be near impossible to do. That's just me being picky though. Finishes with a solid coffee bitterness that grows the more I drink.

The mouthfeel is a little on the thin side but it actually increases the drinkability. I could be wrong but I think this was created to be a fairly drinkable coffee stout instead of a sippin' brew. So keeping that in mind the mouthfeel fits well.

Like I said earlier the drinkability on this stout is up there pretty high. It's already going down far to fast.

I have no idea how the guys at Pisgah squeezed this much coffee into a stout but I commend them for it. I'm already jittery and jonesin' for a cigarette! I'd love to see this get bottled in four packs in the future, although that may be a long way off since they only do limited bombers now. Thanks again Mike for sending this tasty treat!

Reviewed: 3/15/08

joe1510, Aug 19, 2013
Photo of rangerred
4.24/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured into a pint glass out of a 22oz bomber.

Pours pitch black with a one finger dark tan head. Very good head retention with ok lacing.

Aroma is all about the coffee. Lots of medium roast coffee with hints of dark chocolate and dark roasted malt. Some caramel in there too. It is really hard to get past the coffee, though, but it is inviting.

The taste is more and more coffee. Some milk chocolate and caramel/toffee. Really the perfect blend of coffee and chocolate with no one character being too overpowering. Bitterness is very light but this beer is not too sweet either so it balances out nicely.

Overall, a very well done beer from Pisgah. Wish I would have picked up more than one.

rangerred, Aug 18, 2013
Photo of uncccegr
4/5  rDev -3.8%

uncccegr, Aug 12, 2013
Photo of WOLFGANG
3.75/5  rDev -9.9%

WOLFGANG, Jul 22, 2013
Photo of July2Nov
4.31/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Great overall beer from those brewing greats of Pisgah. I preferred the thinner body, along w/ the lower abv%, as it tended to bring the coffee accents out. Plus, it was an easy drinker.

This one is all about the coffee. The roasted flavor is there, then a sweet creaminess, & finishes w/ a sweet, slight chalkiness. The coffee lingers on the tongue way after you've taken your last sip. Truly outstanding!

July2Nov, Jun 10, 2013
Photo of Slatetank
4.5/5  rDev +8.2%

Slatetank, May 15, 2013
Photo of Jlang2012
3.75/5  rDev -9.9%

Jlang2012, May 09, 2013
Photo of JoninVT
3.75/5  rDev -9.9%

JoninVT, Apr 29, 2013
Photo of mikeyv35
4.29/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Date: 06/21/2011
Type: 22oz. Bomber
Vintage: 2010
Glass: Sweetwater Tulip

Pours a jet black in color w/ a 1 finger tan head that produces nice sticky lacing. Aromas of coffee beans, roasted malts, chocolate, and subtle vanilla. The flavor starts w/ initial chocolate sweetness, leading into smooth coffee, and finishes w/ mild vanilla and ever so slight hop bitterness. Medium bodied and finishes dry. I could drink this brew all day especially w/ the lower end ABV.

Overall, this is one of my favorite brews out of the South region and the best coffee stout coming out of the South hands down. The brew is extremely flavorful, but yet very drinkable, just fantastic stuff!

mikeyv35, Apr 15, 2013
Photo of orangesol
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

orangesol, Apr 11, 2013
Photo of cosmicevan
4.43/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

big thanks to hopsleroy for hitting this long time want. enjoyed from a mother earth brewing snifter.

a - poured a watery black that settled into the glass deep and ominous with a tan mocha bubbly head that bubbled away quickly.

s - YUM! gourmet coffee. a fine roast. some chocolate. really just dominated by a really nice gourmet coffee smell. smells fantastic.

t - again, HUGE coffee notes. this is not for the faint of heart. big roast and some hints of bakers chocolate...some nice sweetness. i'm a fan.

m - slightly watery. almost tastes like a watered down coffee. carbonation is soft, body has some porter like char.

o - overall, i'm a BIG fan of this one. it is huge for coffee, but a bit watered down, but still works. not sure what vintage this is, but it doesn't taste anything like what some of the bad reviews boast so there might be bottle variation or even some batch variation? i couldn't have dug this one more.

cosmicevan, Apr 07, 2013
Photo of richkrull
3.75/5  rDev -9.9%

richkrull, Mar 31, 2013
Photo of nickfl
3.75/5  rDev -9.9%

nickfl, Mar 11, 2013
Photo of popery
3.75/5  rDev -9.9%

popery, Mar 01, 2013
Photo of BlackBelt5112203
4.75/5  rDev +14.2%

BlackBelt5112203, Feb 28, 2013
Photo of djrn2
4/5  rDev -3.8%

djrn2, Feb 24, 2013
Photo of KevinGordon
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

KevinGordon, Feb 11, 2013
Photo of Thur123
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

Thur123, Feb 08, 2013
Photo of Jadjunk
3.46/5  rDev -16.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

"Adhering to the strict philosophy of the Pisgah brewers, this mouth watering coffee stout is brewed just miles downstream from America's most beautiful watershed. Brewed with coffee beans from asheville Coffee Roasters, and weighing in at a respectable 6.8% abv, the aroma of fresh coffee leaps from the glass, and finishes slightly dry. Treat yourself to the finest coffee stout this season, Unfiltered for your enjoyment. Respect tradition. Love beer. Treat Yourself!"

Poured from a 22 oz. bomber to a snifter. Served above 48º Fahrenheit.

(Appearance) Pours a silk foamy brown tone head with a slightly above average retention. Body is a dark brown with red highlights. Sediment heavy on the bottom, light flecks don't quite settle. Decent head quality, a little crisp and doesn't last long and lacing is thin. A decent appearance but worthy of much more. 3.25

(Smell) I am slightly put off by the aroma, perhaps by its dryness or the acid presence which makes a big part of the aroma. Bitter coffee bean notes forward and a chalky chocolate chip cookie. Earthy hop presence in places. Mild tones of char beyond a generally clean aroma. Relatively light on the nose, with a lesser balance towards sweetness and a bigger emphasis on bitterness and tart black coffee, light on the creamy notes. Most interesting is a doughy dry yeast aroma with some slight notes of tart fruit. The coffee notes are in decent balance with the other aromas in this beer, as there seems plenty of substance to be had. Potency is medium-high. 3.5

(Taste) Most interesting. Front has a fruity juice tartness, followed through with roasty chocolate notes. Mild black mocha coffee finish and a hint of char. Very heavy emphasis on fruit, quite interesting and a bit unusual for my expectations of a coffee stout, but not an unwelcome variation. The balance is actually quite decent and dryness isn't overwhelming. 3.5

(Mouthfeel) Oily slickness with a mild creaminess on the finish. Tartness in the body is really a confusion to the appropriate texture, slickness and creaminess is probably the best bet nonetheless. Body is just shy of medium for an Imperial Stout, medium/high amongst all beers. Alcohol presence is largely concealed. 3.75

(Overall) My thought is that this beer is a bit older than anticipated and that the yeast have had some fun transforming the beer. It wasn't a terrible transformation, just a much fruitier beer than I had anticipated with a bit less coffee and roasty flavors than I had desired. I hope to get a really fresh batch of this beer in the near future so that I can confirm these suspicions, as this beer currently seems unfocused, and perhaps misguided, at the worst. 3.25

Pisgah Brewing Company's
Valdez
3.46/5.00

Jadjunk, Jan 15, 2013
Photo of CJS
1.4/5  rDev -66.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

A Looks like a average brew. Creamy head that sticks to the glass.

S Smells stoutish with much roasted coffee aroma.

T Extremely bitter and over carbonated. Most coffee I've ever had in a beer. Raw chocolate undertone with slight creaminess. And a tart sour finish that just doesn't belong.

M Too bitter to really enjoy.

O I would almost think it is infected from the sourness, but their is still a balanced flavor setting in this off flavored cocktail. Could not finish a glass.

CJS, Jan 15, 2013
Photo of spycow
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

spycow, Jan 13, 2013
Photo of westcoastbeerlvr
3.25/5  rDev -21.9%

westcoastbeerlvr, Jan 10, 2013
Photo of boonejag75
4.5/5  rDev +8.2%

boonejag75, Jan 10, 2013
Photo of Mantooth
3.75/5  rDev -9.9%

Mantooth, Jan 08, 2013
Photo of dirtylou
3.15/5  rDev -24.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Consumed a few times in the past 2 weeks, both on-tap and bottled

Classification as a Double Stout is quite misleading. The bottled version is over-carbonated and may be confused as *gasp* infected. It just isn't right - fruity and tangy with a metallic finish. On-draft, its an iced coffee overload and is really a nice beer. Unfortunately, the most recent bottling doesn't translate and I was really quite embarrassed to open this for people not familiar with Pisgah.

dirtylou, Jan 06, 2013
Pisgah Valdez from Pisgah Brewing Co.
92 out of 100 based on 295 ratings.