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Pisgah Valdez - Pisgah Brewing Co.

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Pisgah ValdezPisgah Valdez

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

291 Ratings
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Ratings: 291
Reviews: 193
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 11.54%
Wants: 177
Gots: 20 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Pisgah Brewing Co. visit their website
North Carolina, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 12-02-2007)
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Photo of heyta
5/5  rDev +20.2%

heyta, Nov 14, 2011
Photo of homebrew311
4.35/5  rDev +4.6%

Received in trade with McNuts. Thanks man!

A: pours deep dark brown, tan colored head, only a collar sticks around, completely opaque, quite dark for a 6.8 % stout.

S: the nose nails the coffee stout thing... huge robust bold roasted coffee intertwined seamlessly with roasted malts and cocoa. Very similar to the nose of Breakfast Stout or Peche Mortel... this is a good thing.

T: tastes starts off with burnt roast, a touch of bitterness from the coffee, this is followed by waves of coffee, espresso, and dark chocolate. The finish is all chocolate with an aftertaste of coffee beans. Delicious.

MF: thin body for style, but not unexpected considering the abv, somewhat high carbonation

O: this one is a winner. Two of my favorite beverages packaged into one. Yum.

homebrew311, Oct 27, 2011
Photo of corby112
4.65/5  rDev +11.8%

Pours pitch black with faint mahogany edges and a one finger beige head that immediately fades into a thin ring.  Sporadic spots of lacing left behind.  
Rosted coffee bean aroma with lots of dark roasted malt and coffee presence. Gourmet coffee is prominent with a nice roastiness without smelling overdone or burnt.  Hints of hazelnut, toffee, chocolate and toast.  Slight liactic cream presence.  

Medium bodied with a blast of smooth, deep roasted coffee that dominates the flavor but never becomes overpowering, abrasive, acrid or burnt.  Hints of hazelnut and toffee as well as some bittersweet dark chocolate and a slight lactic creaminess that balances things out while adding to the palate.  Perfectly balanced and extremely quaffable.  One of the best coffee beer I've had.  

corby112, Oct 23, 2011
Photo of jsanford
3.8/5  rDev -8.7%

22oz bottle poured into a Tulip Glass.

Poured a bark black with a creamy mocha head. Big, sweet Stout aromas of dark malt, chocolate, coffee, milk, sugar, and cream. Taste is quite similar, getting lots of that coffee-and-cream thing going on. This reminds me a bit of Terrapin's Depth Charge, which is definitely a good thing. Mouthfeel is very creamy, with a medium-full body and solid carbonation. Overall a great coffee Stout, certainly one of the best I've had!

jsanford, Oct 18, 2011
Photo of xnicknj
4.15/5  rDev -0.2%

22oz bottle poured into snifter - big thanks to CarolinaKevin for this

Pours an opaque black color with a froth of heavily tanned head. Some cloudy retention and a few spots of lacing left behind.

Wonderful scents of coffee beans and roasted warmth. Tones of dark malts, chocolate, and nuttiness. Practically no alcohol scent, a light touch of hops.

Eruption of roasted bean coffee flavor right up front. Nutty and sweet with chocolate and a light touch of molasses. Faint hint of caramel and vanilla as well. Layers of dark malts with roasted warmth. Faint hoppiness towards the finish with more coffee flavor.

Fuller body, higher carbonation, pretty smooth but prickly on the tongue. Really delicious coffee profile on this one, both in the nose and flavor - I'd definitely drink this again.

xnicknj, Oct 10, 2011
Photo of rhoadsrage
3.58/5  rDev -13.9%

(Served in a snifter)

A- This beer pours a jet black cocoa color with a tan head that boils away after a bit. There is a few tiny bubbles that glide up the side of the glass.

S- The ground coffee has a light breakfast roast quality with some earthy oat note in the finish.

T- The ground coffee has a slightly tart note and a fruity ester quality in the coffee's finish. There is a vegital capsicum flavor without any heat in the finish. A light inky hint lingers on the lips. As the beer warms there is a soft mellow black malt quality that comes through in the finish.

M- This beer has a medium-light mouthfeel with a tight fizz that scrubs the finish and no real alcohol.

O- This beer has some nice mellow coffee flavors but not much stout support and it finishes a bit vegital. As the beer warms the coffee takes on a bit of a stale quality.

rhoadsrage, Jun 22, 2011
Photo of azdback
3.93/5  rDev -5.5%

Thanks to McNuts for this freebee at an in person pint at Papago.

Poured into a tulip glass. Dark, dark, dark brown in color. No light penetrates this one. Head is three fingers and a beautiful light brown, dolloped on, sticky masterpiece. Lace is starting out like a champ, but doesn't stay around to the end.

Smell is of dark roasted coffee. Not so much coffee grounds or beans, but the aroma you get from fresh brewed coffee. Maybe just a hint of chocolate and some smoke or char.

Taste is kind of like burnt coffee. Not in a bad way though. Just deep roasted flavors that come to me as that. There is ash or smoke flavor there also. End is a bit tart and the taste of a raspberry or cherry. I don't get any chocolate flavors and at 6.8% I defiantly don't get any alcohol.

The mouth is probably where this one falls off for me. For it being called a Double or Imperial Stout it is pretty thin. I could name quite a few Imperial Porters with a better mouth than this. It is thin and watery. More a Porter than an IS.

Overall I was very happy with this. Valdez has an excellent smell and taste, but falls short of the category with it's weak mouth. That being said... I still recommend this to any one that has access.

azdback, May 23, 2011
Photo of JamnesCameron
4.93/5  rDev +18.5%

This bottle is from September 2008. Poured into a MJ tasting glass. Pours a very deep russet brown with garnet highlights near the bottom of the tulip glass. Big, three finger mocha colored head, that drops fairly quickly, leaving a wisp of foam.

Aromas of dark roasted coffee. Some caramel and roasted malts, but the main attraction is the coffee. Coffee also lends a nice roasty bitterness.

Flavors are big, dark roasted coffee, bittersweet cocoa, some roasted graininess. No hop flavor to speak of. This is not just a coffee stout, it's a COFFEE stout. Lingering bitter roasted coffee on the finish, that fades into a nice bittersweet cocoa.

Mouthfeel is big and chewy, not thick and syrupy, but gives a big presence in the mouth, coating everything.

Overall, an excellent coffee stout. Once of the better balanced examples, with lots of flavor.

JamnesCameron, May 10, 2011
Photo of thagr81us
4.08/5  rDev -1.9%

Had during an afternoon ticking session at Pisgah! Served from tap into a sampler imperial pint. Poured a massively dark brown (basically black) with a half finger khaki-colored head that subsided to a minimal amount slowly. Maintained phenomenal lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt and coffee. The flavor was of sweet malt, coffee, and earth. It had a medium feel on the palate with medium carbonation. Overall this was a pretty good brew. Three words though: HOLY CHRIST COFFEE! In all honesty, I don't drink coffee but if I were to start I would use this as a gateway for sure as I'm sure it would work. I would plan to share this one with coffee drinking friends as a gateway for them into craft beer. Still quite nice, but the coffee most definitely covered up a lot of the subtlies that were probably present in this brew.

thagr81us, May 04, 2011
Photo of jorrx003
4.95/5  rDev +19%

An incredible drink for any coffee enthusiast. Looked gloriously black with a brown head. Smelled strongly of the most delicious coffee. This beer tasted like an iced coffee with alcohol added, amazing, it blew me away. I wish it had just a slightly fuller body but other than that minuscule detail I found this beer to be absolutely amazing and everything I could ever want in a coffee stout

jorrx003, Apr 30, 2011
Photo of zeledonia
4.35/5  rDev +4.6%

Thanks to n2185 for including this in a recent trade.

Pours black, no light even at the edges, with a solid two-finger medium-tan head. Head retention is okay, and lacing is good.

Smell is all nice smooth slightly bitter coffee. The malts are there, but they definitely take a back seat to the coffee. More like coffee than beer.

Taste is, well, delicious. Really nice coffee flavors throughout, with a hint of bitterness, but not the overbrewed bitter character that brings so many coffee stouts down. The malts again have second billing, but they bring in a bit of chocolate and a decent richness. Finishes smooth, with a gentle lingering bitterness.

Body is mid-way between a typical stout and imperial stout. Not light, but not the syrupy thick stuff that many impys are. Goes down smooth. Carbonation is on the high side; enough to tickle the mouth.

This is one of my new favorite coffee stouts. A step below Founders Breakfast Stout and Wake 'n Bake, particularly in the complexity of the flavor, but really freakin' good. The coffee flavors are present but smooth, without the sharpness and high bitterness that many coffee stouts deliver. The ABV is lower than a lot of the big coffee imperial stouts, which is nice - drinking a bomber of this myself isn't going to knock me flat.

zeledonia, Apr 30, 2011
Photo of Azurescens
4.05/5  rDev -2.6%

22oz bottle with no bottled on or freshness date poured into Maudite stemmed glass, reviewed on 4/27/11

A: Pours black with dark tan head and moderate retention. The head fades to a collar and leaves some lacing around glass.

S: Smooth freshly roasted coffee up front with dark malt and a hint of chocolate lingering behind the huge coffee aroma. Lots and lots of coffee, if I were to take a blind sniff of this I would definitely think this was a cup of coffee instead of a beer.

T: Bitter roasted coffee dominates the taste with dark malts and some hops and alcohol barely coming through all of the coffee. Long lingering taste of freshly brewed coffee after each sip.

M: Nice medium body with a bit more carbonation than I would really like in a stout.

O: If you want lots of coffee in your stout, this is the beer to go for. Pretty drinkable for a 6.8% ABV brew. Some more body and less carbonation would do wonders for this beer. Still great none the less.

Azurescens, Apr 28, 2011
Photo of Lunch
4.55/5  rDev +9.4%

Bottle gifted to me a generous extra courtesy of Marine1975 during and in-person trade at Sexual Chocolate 2011, thanks Shane!

Poured in my Troegs Troegenator mug from a 22oz bottles right after arriving home from SC'11. Pours thick and creamy and it bascially black in color, looks delicious and I can smell it already. Strong coffee aroma that smells incredibly fresh. Some cocoa, coffee steal the show and I am really enjoying this already. Taste is equally as nice with coffee, espresso, cocoa, milk chocolate and hints of bitter dark chocolate. Mouthfeel is fuller than some people are of themselves on this site.

Overall this is a great beer and one that I would have on hand at all times if it were available in my area.

Lunch, Apr 24, 2011
Photo of Pencible
4.18/5  rDev +0.5%

A: This poured pitch black with a bit of tan head.
S: It smelled like lots of coffee, with a little cream and vanilla.
T: It tasted like strong coffee, with a bit of dark chocolate and cream and sugary vanilla. It had a lasting bitter aftertaste.
M: It was watery with a little carbonation. A bit too light.
D: This was up there with Peche Mortel and Brunch Weasel for super strong coffee beers. Very nice scent and taste, but the body was sort of weak. Easy enough to drink anyway, as long as you like coffee. Nice beer.

Pencible, Apr 13, 2011
Photo of mactrail
3.53/5  rDev -15.1%

Cold coffee in your cup.

Very attractive brownish foam on chestnut colored beer. Modestly fragrant with coffee. Medium body. I keep thinking of Hostess cream-filled chocolate cupcakes. Coffee flavor is main thing, much like Kahlua liqueur. Just a touch of black patent malt sourness. Some sweetness. Vanilla malt on the lips. Hops not very strong.

Tastes stronger than it apparently is. Flavor gets tiresome after a few swallows, but it's certainly one of the better coffee flavors.

mactrail, Apr 06, 2011
Photo of ncfranklin
4.13/5  rDev -0.7%

22oz bomber into a tulip.

A: Impenetrably black. Even holding this to the light, this rejects all temptation to give a hint of color. Small half finger tan head recedes quickly.

S: Big coffee dominates. Some chocolate to the nose as well, with toasty malt.

T: Not as powerful on the coffee as the nose would suggest. Lots of chocolate and toasted malt pour through. Sweet mostly, till a nice coffee layer comes in on the finish.

M: Very smooth till swallow where a light dryness comes in with the coffee flavor. Quite nice combination.

D: A very abundantly flavorful stout at such a small ABV%. Finishing the bomber was not a problem. Really enjoyed this stout, though at $9 for the 22oz it is not something I'd get often.

ncfranklin, Apr 06, 2011
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3.93/5  rDev -5.5%

thanks to thagr81us for this one.

poured cold, black and fairly aggressively from the bottle to a founder's brewing company goblet with a full finger, big bubbled mocha head with nice retention and spotty lace.

aroma of creamy espresso and milk chocolate.

coffee and chocolate cupcakes, with a tad bit of tangy bitter to the roof of the mouth.

light to medium bodied for the style, high carbonation, smooth, tangy bitter.

drinkable - sure, a bomber's worth.

overall, real nice beer, big coffee - not a fan of this tangy bitter, but its not to the point of distraction.

robwestcott, Apr 04, 2011
Photo of jnn4v
3.95/5  rDev -5%

A: Very dark brown / black color. Nearly opaque. Hints of a head on top, but not much. Seems to be carbonated.

S: Week-old coffee, chocolate, molasses, and whipped cream.

T: Coffee, coffee grinds, dark malty sweetness (sort of like molasses minus the bitterness), and a hint of creaminess (but only relatively minor).

M: Good level of carbonation. More carbonated than an imperial stout would be, but seems appropriate for its genre. Medium-sized bubbles.

O: Good overall beer. I enjoyed the flavors, and most of all, it's a mellow and easy-to-consume beer, which is very rare for a coffee-centric stout.

jnn4v, Apr 03, 2011
Photo of biglite351
3.35/5  rDev -19.5%

A - touch of red at the edges. Creamy dark tan head that leaves some lacing.

S - chocolate syrup, like I'm a hot fudge sundae, coffee and a bitter shot in the finish.

T - cold coffee with fudge in it. Malts in the background. The bitter shot in the scent is present in the flavor as well.

M - mild coating, but a strong tingle on sides of tongue.

O - I could have one but would then opt for something without the bitter hit.

biglite351, Mar 21, 2011
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4/5  rDev -3.8%

On-tap at the Pisgah tasting room in a shaker pint. Black with thin medium brown head, spotty lace. Smell: big roasted coffee, roasted grain, toffee, a little green earthy hopping. Coffee forward, nice. Taste: caramel, coffee, booze. Nice. Light carbonation.

babaracas, Mar 21, 2011
Photo of BarrytheBear
3.6/5  rDev -13.5%

Bottle dated December 2009 courtesy of Robert. Thanks for the opportunity!

Pours a dark brown. Head dissipates almost immediately leaving a thin ring along the edges.

Smell is mostly coffee with a touch of chocolate and caramel. Not robust and in your face, but still present for being nearly a year and half old.

Coffee is front and center. Caramel and roast provide support. Easy drinking and rather simplistic. This isn't a dig on the beer, it's just an easy drinking coffee stout with no real bells and whistles. Robert was kind enough to send a 2010 as well, so I'll have to do a comparison at some point.

A bit thin and slightly watery, which seems to me a problem for many coffee stouts. Overall, this was a nice light coffee stout that didn't overwhelm me after a long run.

BarrytheBear, Mar 20, 2011
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4.18/5  rDev +0.5%

A: Pours black with about a finger of chocolate-colored head that quickly recedes into a thin ring with a little lacing.

S: There are some roasted malt and chocolate aromas in there, but mostly it's just coffee. Full-bodied, rich, dark-roasted coffee.

T: Very similar to the aroma, this beer is just bursting with rich, dark-roasted coffee flavors. There are touches of roasted malt and chocolate, but mostly coffee. The finish is surprisingly smooth and not bitter.

M: Medium-thick body with low-medium carbonation, this beer is thick and creamy.

D: This beer goes down very easily. It's a pretty simple beer, tasting more like a glass of high quality iced coffee with carbonation than a beer. Very straight-forward, but very good as well.

n2185, Mar 02, 2011
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4.43/5  rDev +6.5%

Thanks to chawk for hooking this one up. Served at our Night of Fedor tasting with the Chicago Crew.

A - Black beer with a brown head. Decent lacing, pretty nice looking brew.

S - Rich coffee on this, very strong aroma profile for a something that is less than 7% abv. Good roasted note with a little bit of burnt cocoa.

T - Roasted malts, awesome coffee profile. This is really how a coffee beer should be done. Great bitterness combined with a sweetness from the burnt cocoa. Great beer all around.

M - Full bodied, nice dose of carbonation for the style.

D - So good, could drink tons of it. Would love to have this beer again and highly recommend it to others.

AgentZero, Mar 02, 2011
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4.58/5  rDev +10.1%

Poured from a 22 oz. bomber into a tulip....Huge thanks to GehenHerzog for this extra.

A- Pours pitch black with a mocha colored head. The thin head creates a film that encompasses the beer's body. Not much carbonation can be seen.

S- Deep roasted espresso bean with some toffee. Roasted malt and chocolate are also at the forefront. There is no debating the dominant robust coffee character that arrest you and never let go.

T- Roasted, sweet coffee beans with a chocolaty finish. Tastes just liken it smells. Small hint of bitterness from the coffee beans. Truly amazing flavor. Just like biting into a premium espresso bean.

M- Creamy and silky smooth. Medium carbonation. Not too thick, not too light. A bit of dryness from the rich coffee notes.

D- This is fantastic drinking. Creamy, smooth delicious coffee. I'll have no problem finishing off this bomber. I just wish I had access to more.

dgugliuzza, Mar 01, 2011
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4/5  rDev -3.8%

22oz bottle from January 2009.

Pours opaque black with mahogany edging and a tight beige head. A partial skim coat and roped lacing throughout the glass.

Aromatics lead off with roasted malts, coffee grounds, bitter chocolate, and Oreo shells. A hint of char and smoke follow through.

Medium bodied with a slight chew. Thinnish for the style. The mouthfeel is soft and a bit creamy.

Brownie bits with espresso and chocolate malt start the palate. Medium roast coffee steps forward as well as bakers chocolate and a hint of Kahlua.

Finishes with shades of coffee, chocolate, and a bit of char.

Tasty enough, but I'm left wanting more of everything. The coffee character is a bit meekish and the stout base is rather average.

brewandbbq, Feb 28, 2011
Pisgah Valdez from Pisgah Brewing Co.
92 out of 100 based on 291 ratings.