Pisgah Valdez - Pisgah Brewing Co.
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3.58/5 rDev -13.9%
Black with a slight sliver of brown at the bottom of the glass. Tall, loosely foamy brown head. Coffee, milk, and sugar aromas upfront with some chocolaty roastiness. Roasted coffee and cream flavors...sweet and tasty...but there's no depth. Take away the coffee and would this be a quality stout? Medium bodied and way too carbonated for the style. A slight bit of warming in the throat which is confusing considering the low ABV.
I love coffee, I love coffee stouts...this one was disappointing. Not anything remotely close to an Imperial Stout either, though I don't think it's supposed to be. Maybe it's just this batch, but this beer is highly overrated.
09-28-2008 19:06:59 | More by wedge
4.97/5 rDev +19.5%
Pours a nice jet black with a decent tan head that diminishes to a lasting thin layer. Aroma is dominated by fresh ground coffee, just a hint of chocolate tries to poke through, but really cannot surpass the coffee at all. The taste is a coffee lovers dream. As others had said in their reviews, it's almost hard to tell that this is beer. The mouth has a great dryness and is very smooth with only a slight alcohol presence. This is an absolutely spectacular beer, another great one from the guys at Pisgah.
03-19-2008 02:54:36 | More by atsprings
3.9/5 rDev -6.3%
Bomber of this one provided by jbeatty. Thanks for the trade man!
From a bomber into a snifter
APPEARANCE: A dark brown pour yields a two finger, medium looking, noisy, crackly, dark tan head with decent retention. Black body, opaque and medium carbonation evident. Head fades to a full film on top. A half wisp and a ring remain until the end leaving some nice lacing down the glass. Very nice looking beer, though noisy heads are never that appealing.
SMELL: Medium strength nose of roasted malts, roasted coffee beans, sweet cream and vanilla notes. A hint of caramel as well. Like a latte or a very milky, creamy coffee. A very nice nose for the age, though is has mellowed quite a bit at this point I fear.
TASTE: Some roasted and caramel malts up front with sweet cream and milky, roasted coffee through the middle into the finish. Sweet cream and vanilla mesh well with the coffee flavors, making it much like a latte, as the nose had advertised. Milder aftertaste of sweet cream, roasted coffee and a light bitterness lingers nicely on the palate. Very nice and appealing, but much like the nose, this has probably mellowed quite a bit over time.
PALATE: Medium body and medium carbonation. Light and creamy smooth on the palate, goes down smooth and finishes slightly dry. Nice and creamy feel.
OVERALL: I wouldn’t call this an imperial stout, but as an American coffee stout, this one is quite nice. I would think the nose and flavor profile was much bolder and forthcoming when the beer was fresh, but after over a year in the bottle, it’s certainly a nice drink; people who enjoy coffee stouts that are more restrained will definitely be extremely pleased with this. I certainly enjoyed this one and the bomber disappeared far too quickly. Thanks again for the brews jbeatty!
01-22-2012 13:24:55 | More by Jeffo
4.05/5 rDev -2.6%
Thanks to Deuane for hauling this back from NC for me. A 2008 vintage corked 750ml bottle poured into my standard shaker glass. The stout appears a translucent dark chestnut color with an inch of creamy ecru colored foam. The head settles to a thin ring and remains until the glass is empty. Nose and flavor consist of medium roasted coffee beans, slightly sour and acidic espresso, quite earthy, nice molasses and caramel sweetness, bitter black coffee, baking chocolate. Maybe a notch better than medium bodied with adequate carbonation. I would have preferred a fuller body, but it's still pretty nice.
08-31-2009 16:27:14 | More by ClockworkOrange
3.9/5 rDev -6.3%
My first sample from this brewery. Pours a deep black color with a huge, huge head. Almsot seems infected by the overcarbonation but I tend to think it is just the beer itself. Head has to be 2 inches thick. Ok aroma-the coffe smell is offset by a somewhat metallic and oxidized tinge. Solid roasted malt and coffee flavors dominate. Sort of grainy. Decent mouthfeel-finish is rather dry actually. A decent enough beer. Lacks whatever is needed to push it over the top.
04-12-2009 01:35:09 | More by lackenhauser
2.42/5 rDev -41.8%
A - It presents an appearance no dissimilar from black coffee; there is not much head, it is a deep brown that appears black, and it has that coffee sheen.
S - This beer smells like straight-up burnt coffee, nothing else. Not espresso, not dark roast; this is ooops! I burned the coffee! And I don't like my coffee burnt, so I am not a fan of this one-dimensional aromatic.
T - Unfortunately, not much is different about the taste, as compared to the smell. I am still getting very little other than straight-up burnt coffee. The beer is also lacking body, and seems to have an acridity that I find disquieting. Also, the beer hiding beneath all that coffee tastes like it would be a bland watery brown ale.
M - The thin, flaccid nature of this brew is the nail in the coffin. The feel is absolutely horrendous.
D - I am not impressed here. This is one of the most ham-handed executions of a coffee beer I have seen. It evokes comparisons, in terms of ineptitude, to Fuel Café...
07-18-2010 16:21:38 | More by ktrillionaire
4.22/5 rDev +1.4%
Growler into a snifter. Thanks to Kevin for bringing this back from Pisgah. I've wanted to try this for a while.
Is it named for the coffee maker or the oil tanker? Maybe both! Valdez is a pitch black beer with a dark tan head. It has good retention considering its a coffee stout (I find it's really hard to get the foam to stick due to the oil from the coffee beans unless you are Surly, but Coffee Bender is a freak of nature); we are left with a ring and film with spotty lace after a while. A swirl reawakens the head.
Valdez smells prominently of coffee, really rich and strong coffee. Some earthy character is reflected in the grounds, but this is super fresh and pleasant not stale. A bit of caramel sweetness, chocolate and just a hint of creamy vanilla compliment and round out an excellent nose.
Valdez is full of great coffee through and through. Some dark French roast espresso reaches a peak of bitterness then sweet chocolate, vanilla, and caramel come in the picture. The powerful tasting experience finishes with lingering swetness and a touch of lingering coffee bitterness. While this is well above average, it falls short of the top tier - simply put, I just would like more roast from the malt. Otherwise, the coffee and sweet malt are nice and this is very good!
This beer is a touch thin but nice overall. It has medium body with medium to heavy carb for a stout. For a 6.5% stout, this is probably acceptable but for the 'Imperial/Double' style I expect more creaminess. The finish is sweet and bitter and a touch dry. Overall, Pisgah Vortex is an excellent beer. I had a growler basically to myself with just a touch of help from the wife and it never got to be a chore. A great coffee beer - straight-up, no gimmicks, very expressive and very pleasant. Now there are three famous Valdez's - Juan, Exxon, and Pisgah!
10-05-2010 00:56:17 | More by jampics2
4.68/5 rDev +12.5%
I first tried this beer in a bottle and, while I liked it, I had no idea what all the fuss was about. But after trying this on tap at Barley's in Asheville on 2/5, the scales have fallen from my eyes.
A-Pours black as night, deep and opaque with a thin tan head and good sticky lacing.
S-A blast of fresh roasted coffee starts things off, with some nice roasted malt and cocoa behind it.
T-Delicious. Starts with a delicious roastiness, follow by a nutty maltiness, finishing with a crisp bitter hop burst and more roasted coffee. Plenty of coffee flavor but still tastes like a beer. Outstanding.
M-Medium bodied with a nice lingering finish.
D-Yes, please I would like many more. Outstanding!
02-19-2010 17:54:36 | More by sholland119
4.6/5 rDev +10.6%
Thanks to unclejedi for this via trade.
A: Just about black with 2 fingers of mocha head.
S: Coffee big time. Big roasted smell balances thing out a bit but make no mistake this is a punch of coffee in the face.
T: Coffee up front. The tricky thing with coffee stouts is that they taste fake. This was a nicely balanced coffee stout. The roast balanced it out much like the nose.
M: Nice and silky. Perfect carbonation.
D: Very nice. This would be an amazing session beer. Great big beer taste in a 6.8% ABV package. Again thanks to unclejedi for this great beer.
11-16-2008 21:07:25 | More by aerozeppl
4.5/5 rDev +8.2%
Bottle from Bruisin' Ales in Asheville, NC. Poured into a 22 oz. Terrapin snifter.
Appearance: This beer looks like coffee. A nice head of froth - latte-esque, fine-bubbled, beige, tan, chocolate, creamy, milky, frothy, foamy - settles and sticks around for quite some time.
Aroma: Perhaps the most authentic freshly ground coffee smell I've ever gotten out of a beer. It's the perfect medium-to-full roast, but that's not all there is. There's sweet, milky chocolate notes, hints of
Taste: I think I detect a hint of coffee in this beer. But seriously, wow. A really great, strong earthy coffee note - no, not a note, a really great, strong earthy coffee backbone, foundation, basis. There're grassy notes, light citrus notes, and tons of roast, dirt, and light smoke. "Coffee-tastic." Pungent, too - I could smell it halfway across the room.
Mouthfeel: Full-bodied, oily, milky, creamy, smooth, medium-bubbled. A little too big-bodied and fluffy, perhaps, but it works well with the light, delicate nature of the taste and the low alcohol content. Not cloying, sticky, or filmy, but very clean and crisp.
Drinkability: A fantastic all-around coffee beer, and the low abv% makes it even more drinkable. It's crisp, fresh, tasty, refreshing, AND it's organic ... what's not to love? Seriously though, it's one of the most authentic smelling/tasting coffee beers I've ever had the privilege of, and I'd recommend it to anyone who enjoys their morning coffee strong with a half cream/half sugar. Very well made and very enjoyable.
09-20-2008 05:37:42 | More by CrellMoset
4.35/5 rDev +4.6%
September 2008 bottle.
Deep black pour with an inch of light tan foam that leaves some spotty lacing and stays around for what seems like forever. Looks good in the glass. Aroma is bursting with fresh roasted coffee that's bright and vibrant. Smooth roast underneath with chocolate notes. Crisp maltiness throughout.
First sip smooth, clean roasted malt upfront that's immediately coasted by fresh coffee flavors. Chocolate works its way in along with a velvety smoothness. Bitterness hits on the way down but it's rather mellow. Finishes dry with lingering coffee flavors. Tasty.
Mouthfeel is smooth and medium bodied, a bit on the lighter side but that just makes it easier to drink. Overall, a damn fine coffee stout and organic to boot. Very glad I got a chance to try this. Thanks to dmeadows.
07-31-2009 01:35:47 | More by orbitalr0x
4/5 rDev -3.8%
22oz bottle from January 2009.
Pours opaque black with mahogany edging and a tight beige head. A partial skim coat and roped lacing throughout the glass.
Aromatics lead off with roasted malts, coffee grounds, bitter chocolate, and Oreo shells. A hint of char and smoke follow through.
Medium bodied with a slight chew. Thinnish for the style. The mouthfeel is soft and a bit creamy.
Brownie bits with espresso and chocolate malt start the palate. Medium roast coffee steps forward as well as bakers chocolate and a hint of Kahlua.
Finishes with shades of coffee, chocolate, and a bit of char.
Tasty enough, but I'm left wanting more of everything. The coffee character is a bit meekish and the stout base is rather average.
02-28-2011 01:17:35 | More by brewandbbq
4.18/5 rDev +0.5%
Super excited to try this big beer from the boys at Pisgah. Poured into a snifter glass. Pours a thick viscous black with no head on top at all. Nothing. Big roasted coffee scents burst out. This is strong right after popping the cap. Lots of espresso, some milk chocolate, cream, toasted sugar. This smells great. A very good lead-in to drinking this bad boy.
The mouth is very crisp and bubbly...too much so. For this style I prefer big and heavy, as this one is, but it needs to be smoother and a little creamier. Too much carbonation going on. Great roasted coffee flavors all over this. Excellent bitter black coffee balanced with a creamy milky chocolate on the end. Slight grassy hops noted on the finish as well. I like that touch. It claimed to be a coffee beer, and a coffee beer it was. Wow.
*Note: This was my third "coffee" beer in a row (all different styles), and this one was my favorite for sure. One of the best coffee beers I've had in awhile.
04-23-2010 14:35:34 | More by Onenote81
4.18/5 rDev +0.5%
A: Pours black with about a finger of chocolate-colored head that quickly recedes into a thin ring with a little lacing.
S: There are some roasted malt and chocolate aromas in there, but mostly it's just coffee. Full-bodied, rich, dark-roasted coffee.
T: Very similar to the aroma, this beer is just bursting with rich, dark-roasted coffee flavors. There are touches of roasted malt and chocolate, but mostly coffee. The finish is surprisingly smooth and not bitter.
M: Medium-thick body with low-medium carbonation, this beer is thick and creamy.
D: This beer goes down very easily. It's a pretty simple beer, tasting more like a glass of high quality iced coffee with carbonation than a beer. Very straight-forward, but very good as well.
03-02-2011 17:49:25 | More by n2185
4.53/5 rDev +8.9%
Had the last pint at Barley's in Asheville on Friday, reviewing from a growler.
a - pours nearly black with a two-finger tan head, decent retention, great lacing
s - intense aroma of bittersweet chocolate and espresso...chocolate covered espresso beans, dried blueberries and hints of cherry, no alcohol evident
t - espresso and dark chocolate as on the nose, bitterness and sweetness nicely balanced, mid-palate has more bitter chocolate and espresso with some blueberries thrown in, finish kind of falls off in intensity, but espresso and dark chocolate flavors linger lightly on the palate for quite awhile, along with a cola flavor, not much alcohol detectable
m - medium-bodied, a bit too light bodied for my taste, but not by much, moderate carbonation, finish is well balanced on the palate
d - pretty drinkable for a coffee stout, taste is balanced and complex, relatively easy on the palate, alcohol doesn't overwhelm at all
Excellent coffee stout all around from Pisgah. It'd be nice if they made this a regular release.
04-01-2008 01:55:28 | More by WeisGuy
3.45/5 rDev -17.1%
Blind Bomber #2 Firing this one off live. The beer started out cold and was poured into an Imperial Pint glass. The beer will be allowed to warm to a desirable temperature. After about 20 minutes of wait time sip wait sip wait some more the beer is ready to go!
A- 3.5 The body of the beer is almost straight black. The head didnt last long at all and resolved to a thin ring of lightly creamed coffee coloration. No lacing to speak of on my glass.
S 3.5 The aroma is of darkly roasted coffee. A bit sweet and a bit chared.
T 3.5 Dark roasted lightly sweetened coffee. The char on the finish keeps the sweetness in check. Not bad but want a little something more.
M / D 3 / 3.5 The body of the beer is just shy of medium the carbonation levels are low but I think this is a good thing for this beer. The beer was easy to drink. A bit one dimensional on the coffee. Not a bad stout but think I might pass this one up.
Reveal: This beer was a want. Pisgah Valdez going to have to go out on a limb on this one and state its lacking a bit to be an Imperial Stout. Thanks Sholland119 for sending this beer my way!
12-28-2010 12:26:21 | More by nlmartin
Pisgah Valdez from Pisgah Brewing Co.
92 out of 100 based on 291 ratings.