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Pisgah Valdez - Pisgah Brewing Co.

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92
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325 Ratings
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Ratings: 325
Reviews: 200
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 11.57%
Wants: 178
Gots: 20 | FT: 1
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Pisgah Brewing Co. visit their website
North Carolina, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: MuenchenerKindl on 11-24-2007

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3.75/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of n2185
4.14/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours black with about a finger of chocolate-colored head that quickly recedes into a thin ring with a little lacing.

S: There are some roasted malt and chocolate aromas in there, but mostly it's just coffee. Full-bodied, rich, dark-roasted coffee.

T: Very similar to the aroma, this beer is just bursting with rich, dark-roasted coffee flavors. There are touches of roasted malt and chocolate, but mostly coffee. The finish is surprisingly smooth and not bitter.

M: Medium-thick body with low-medium carbonation, this beer is thick and creamy.

D: This beer goes down very easily. It's a pretty simple beer, tasting more like a glass of high quality iced coffee with carbonation than a beer. Very straight-forward, but very good as well.

Photo of aerozeppl
4.6/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Thanks to unclejedi for this via trade.

A: Just about black with 2 fingers of mocha head.

S: Coffee big time. Big roasted smell balances thing out a bit but make no mistake this is a punch of coffee in the face.

T: Coffee up front. The tricky thing with coffee stouts is that they taste fake. This was a nicely balanced coffee stout. The roast balanced it out much like the nose.

M: Nice and silky. Perfect carbonation.

D: Very nice. This would be an amazing session beer. Great big beer taste in a 6.8% ABV package. Again thanks to unclejedi for this great beer.

Photo of WeisGuy
4.54/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Had the last pint at Barley's in Asheville on Friday, reviewing from a growler.

a - pours nearly black with a two-finger tan head, decent retention, great lacing

s - intense aroma of bittersweet chocolate and espresso...chocolate covered espresso beans, dried blueberries and hints of cherry, no alcohol evident

t - espresso and dark chocolate as on the nose, bitterness and sweetness nicely balanced, mid-palate has more bitter chocolate and espresso with some blueberries thrown in, finish kind of falls off in intensity, but espresso and dark chocolate flavors linger lightly on the palate for quite awhile, along with a cola flavor, not much alcohol detectable

m - medium-bodied, a bit too light bodied for my taste, but not by much, moderate carbonation, finish is well balanced on the palate

d - pretty drinkable for a coffee stout, taste is balanced and complex, relatively easy on the palate, alcohol doesn't overwhelm at all

Excellent coffee stout all around from Pisgah. It'd be nice if they made this a regular release.

Photo of CrellMoset
4.5/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle from Bruisin' Ales in Asheville, NC. Poured into a 22 oz. Terrapin snifter.

Appearance: This beer looks like coffee. A nice head of froth - latte-esque, fine-bubbled, beige, tan, chocolate, creamy, milky, frothy, foamy - settles and sticks around for quite some time.

Aroma: Perhaps the most authentic freshly ground coffee smell I've ever gotten out of a beer. It's the perfect medium-to-full roast, but that's not all there is. There's sweet, milky chocolate notes, hints of

Taste: I think I detect a hint of coffee in this beer. But seriously, wow. A really great, strong earthy coffee note - no, not a note, a really great, strong earthy coffee backbone, foundation, basis. There're grassy notes, light citrus notes, and tons of roast, dirt, and light smoke. "Coffee-tastic." Pungent, too - I could smell it halfway across the room.

Mouthfeel: Full-bodied, oily, milky, creamy, smooth, medium-bubbled. A little too big-bodied and fluffy, perhaps, but it works well with the light, delicate nature of the taste and the low alcohol content. Not cloying, sticky, or filmy, but very clean and crisp.

Drinkability: A fantastic all-around coffee beer, and the low abv% makes it even more drinkable. It's crisp, fresh, tasty, refreshing, AND it's organic ... what's not to love? Seriously though, it's one of the most authentic smelling/tasting coffee beers I've ever had the privilege of, and I'd recommend it to anyone who enjoys their morning coffee strong with a half cream/half sugar. Very well made and very enjoyable.

Photo of Onenote81
4.16/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Super excited to try this big beer from the boys at Pisgah. Poured into a snifter glass. Pours a thick viscous black with no head on top at all. Nothing. Big roasted coffee scents burst out. This is strong right after popping the cap. Lots of espresso, some milk chocolate, cream, toasted sugar. This smells great. A very good lead-in to drinking this bad boy.

The mouth is very crisp and bubbly...too much so. For this style I prefer big and heavy, as this one is, but it needs to be smoother and a little creamier. Too much carbonation going on. Great roasted coffee flavors all over this. Excellent bitter black coffee balanced with a creamy milky chocolate on the end. Slight grassy hops noted on the finish as well. I like that touch. It claimed to be a coffee beer, and a coffee beer it was. Wow.

*Note: This was my third "coffee" beer in a row (all different styles), and this one was my favorite for sure. One of the best coffee beers I've had in awhile.

Photo of brewandbbq
4/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle from January 2009.

Pours opaque black with mahogany edging and a tight beige head. A partial skim coat and roped lacing throughout the glass.

Aromatics lead off with roasted malts, coffee grounds, bitter chocolate, and Oreo shells. A hint of char and smoke follow through.

Medium bodied with a slight chew. Thinnish for the style. The mouthfeel is soft and a bit creamy.

Brownie bits with espresso and chocolate malt start the palate. Medium roast coffee steps forward as well as bakers chocolate and a hint of Kahlua.

Finishes with shades of coffee, chocolate, and a bit of char.

Tasty enough, but I'm left wanting more of everything. The coffee character is a bit meekish and the stout base is rather average.

Photo of orbitalr0x
4.35/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

September 2008 bottle.

Deep black pour with an inch of light tan foam that leaves some spotty lacing and stays around for what seems like forever. Looks good in the glass. Aroma is bursting with fresh roasted coffee that's bright and vibrant. Smooth roast underneath with chocolate notes. Crisp maltiness throughout.

First sip smooth, clean roasted malt upfront that's immediately coasted by fresh coffee flavors. Chocolate works its way in along with a velvety smoothness. Bitterness hits on the way down but it's rather mellow. Finishes dry with lingering coffee flavors. Tasty.

Mouthfeel is smooth and medium bodied, a bit on the lighter side but that just makes it easier to drink. Overall, a damn fine coffee stout and organic to boot. Very glad I got a chance to try this. Thanks to dmeadows.

Photo of iatethecloudsfor
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

Photo of nlmartin
3.45/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Blind Bomber #2 Firing this one off live. The beer started out cold and was poured into an Imperial Pint glass. The beer will be allowed to warm to a desirable temperature. After about 20 minutes of wait time sip wait sip wait some more the beer is ready to go!

A- 3.5 The body of the beer is almost straight black. The head didnt last long at all and resolved to a thin ring of lightly creamed coffee coloration. No lacing to speak of on my glass.

S 3.5 The aroma is of darkly roasted coffee. A bit sweet and a bit chared.

T 3.5 Dark roasted lightly sweetened coffee. The char on the finish keeps the sweetness in check. Not bad but want a little something more.

M / D 3 / 3.5 The body of the beer is just shy of medium the carbonation levels are low but I think this is a good thing for this beer. The beer was easy to drink. A bit one dimensional on the coffee. Not a bad stout but think I might pass this one up.

Reveal: This beer was a want. Pisgah Valdez going to have to go out on a limb on this one and state its lacking a bit to be an Imperial Stout. Thanks Sholland119 for sending this beer my way!

Photo of Photekut
5/5  rDev +20.5%

Photo of joe1510
4.21/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

64oz Growler

7.2%

I get the opportunity to sample my first from Pisgah thanks to Mikesgroove, thanks Mike! Valdez is a fine looking beer! Pours black with some transparency in the form of chestnut highlights at the bottom of the glass. The dirty tan head grew to a solid finger and a half on the pour and fell rather slowly to a skimming and respectable collar. The head leaves a patch or two of lacing here and there.

Wow! This beer is not really beer! It's cold coffee! Well, that's what the aroma suggests anyways. High quality fresh pressed coffees grabs the nose and never let's go. As I stir the head I still get massive coffee but a drop of cream and a pinch of sugar have been added. As the head dies back down it's back to black coffee.

Big coffee in the flavor as well, obviously. I wonder if there's any beer in here? Although the coffee is everywhere it just doesn't live up to the intensity of the aroma, which would be near impossible to do. That's just me being picky though. Finishes with a solid coffee bitterness that grows the more I drink.

The mouthfeel is a little on the thin side but it actually increases the drinkability. I could be wrong but I think this was created to be a fairly drinkable coffee stout instead of a sippin' brew. So keeping that in mind the mouthfeel fits well.

Like I said earlier the drinkability on this stout is up there pretty high. It's already going down far to fast.

I have no idea how the guys at Pisgah squeezed this much coffee into a stout but I commend them for it. I'm already jittery and jonesin' for a cigarette! I'd love to see this get bottled in four packs in the future, although that may be a long way off since they only do limited bombers now. Thanks again Mike for sending this tasty treat!

Reviewed: 3/15/08

Photo of zeledonia
4.33/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to n2185 for including this in a recent trade.

Pours black, no light even at the edges, with a solid two-finger medium-tan head. Head retention is okay, and lacing is good.

Smell is all nice smooth slightly bitter coffee. The malts are there, but they definitely take a back seat to the coffee. More like coffee than beer.

Taste is, well, delicious. Really nice coffee flavors throughout, with a hint of bitterness, but not the overbrewed bitter character that brings so many coffee stouts down. The malts again have second billing, but they bring in a bit of chocolate and a decent richness. Finishes smooth, with a gentle lingering bitterness.

Body is mid-way between a typical stout and imperial stout. Not light, but not the syrupy thick stuff that many impys are. Goes down smooth. Carbonation is on the high side; enough to tickle the mouth.

This is one of my new favorite coffee stouts. A step below Founders Breakfast Stout and Wake 'n Bake, particularly in the complexity of the flavor, but really freakin' good. The coffee flavors are present but smooth, without the sharpness and high bitterness that many coffee stouts deliver. The ABV is lower than a lot of the big coffee imperial stouts, which is nice - drinking a bomber of this myself isn't going to knock me flat.

Photo of WillCarrera
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

Photo of DoctorB2B
4/5  rDev -3.6%

Photo of GTB
4/5  rDev -3.6%

Photo of SaCkErZ9
4.21/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Served on draft at Duckworths in N Charlotte for $2.50 a pint. Great deal!

Comes to the bar pitch black. A very small tan head is present but then leaves completely. I was disappointed in the appearance of this one. Kind of looks like a cup of coffee in the glass. Actually, it smells like it too.

Aroma is full of coffee. I love it! Not a whole lot else is going on. Mild, freshly brewed coffee seems to be the dominating aroma.

Tastes like coffee as well. The coffee seems somwhat subdued but is certainly the focal point of this one. A bit of fruitiness and roasted grains penetrate the coffee blanket but lack the tenacity to make themselves completely known.

I really dug this one. It was served around 50F or so and as it warmed, it got better. I could drink this one at room temp. A bit thick on the tongue. Quite creamy. So delicious.

Note: This one is only 6.7% abv so how it is considered an Imperial Stout is beyond me. This one drinks like a stout and has the abv of a stout. The abv is very well hidden, however.

Photo of deltatauhobbit
3.95/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Big thanks to mikesgroove for trading this bottle to me, been wanting to try something from Pisgah for awhile now and couldn't have picked a better one to start with.

Pours a cola, dark brown color with a huge huge fuzzy light tan head, fills up about half the glass and takes a while to fade, leaves some good lacing along the way.

Smell is also cola-ish with a coffee aroma backing, quite interesting.

Taste is well carbonated, decent roasted flavor with coffee being the prevalent factor, kinda wish the coffee was even stronger and the beer was less cola like, but it was easily drinkable.

Photo of babaracas
4/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap at the Pisgah tasting room in a shaker pint. Black with thin medium brown head, spotty lace. Smell: big roasted coffee, roasted grain, toffee, a little green earthy hopping. Coffee forward, nice. Taste: caramel, coffee, booze. Nice. Light carbonation.

Photo of kbutler1
3.83/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle. Poured into a New Belgium glass a dark brown color with a nice 1 finger tan head that settles to form a coaster. Roasted coffee, malts, tobacco, and leather dominate the nose. Medium mouthfeel. pretty velvety. Slightly sweet flavor soon gives way to a nice roasted coffee flavor that linger on for a while. Not the best coffee stout I have had but not bad either.

Photo of BarrytheBear
3.62/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle dated December 2009 courtesy of Robert. Thanks for the opportunity!

Pours a dark brown. Head dissipates almost immediately leaving a thin ring along the edges.

Smell is mostly coffee with a touch of chocolate and caramel. Not robust and in your face, but still present for being nearly a year and half old.

Coffee is front and center. Caramel and roast provide support. Easy drinking and rather simplistic. This isn't a dig on the beer, it's just an easy drinking coffee stout with no real bells and whistles. Robert was kind enough to send a 2010 as well, so I'll have to do a comparison at some point.

A bit thin and slightly watery, which seems to me a problem for many coffee stouts. Overall, this was a nice light coffee stout that didn't overwhelm me after a long run.

Photo of rangerred
4.22/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured into a pint glass out of a 22oz bomber.

Pours pitch black with a one finger dark tan head. Very good head retention with ok lacing.

Aroma is all about the coffee. Lots of medium roast coffee with hints of dark chocolate and dark roasted malt. Some caramel in there too. It is really hard to get past the coffee, though, but it is inviting.

The taste is more and more coffee. Some milk chocolate and caramel/toffee. Really the perfect blend of coffee and chocolate with no one character being too overpowering. Bitterness is very light but this beer is not too sweet either so it balances out nicely.

Overall, a very well done beer from Pisgah. Wish I would have picked up more than one.

Photo of Damian
4.6/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 5

Drank from a 750 mL/1 Pint 9.4 FL. OZ. bottle
Served in a snifter

Acquired in a trade with mikesgroove

The beer poured an absolute pitch black with a small, frothy, coffee-colored head that faded to a thick collar. Large drops of lacing coated the glass.

The aroma was simply amazing. Coffee, coffee and more coffee. Freshly ground coffee beans, to be precise. Sweet, rich and super smooth. Some milk chocolate and vanilla notes came through as well. Usually I do not like one-dimensionality in beers, but in this case it worked.

Like the aroma, the flavor was dominated by coffee. This time, freshly brewed coffee. Super smooth, creamy and rich. Dark chocolate was also noticeable. Semi-sweet. Moderately roasty. Vanilla notes appeared as well, along with a touch of sweet cream. Some leafy hops came through on the semi-dry, roasty finish.

The mouthfeel was the only chink in this beer's armor. At only 6.8% ABV, I was not expecting this beer to be as full bodied as its higher alcohol counterparts, but I never thought it would be quite this thin. The liquid was far too light, fizzy and spritzy for any type of stout, never mind a double.

While the mouthfeel was less than ideal, drinkability was simply off the charts. I cannot remember the last time I had a beer that was so flavorful and still so quaffable. The moderate 6.8% ABV was hardly detectable.

With such a low alcohol content, I am uncertain as to why this beer is listed as a double stout. It seemed more like a full-flavored, coffee stout. In any case, this is an outstanding brew, albeit very coffee-centric. Definitely one of the tastiest stouts I have tried in a while and probably the most drinkable example of the style I have yet to sample. Finally, an organic beer that deserves some praise!

Photo of Proteus93
4.5/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Good ol' review #50... shared with dkachur over an afternoon tasting...

A: Opaque black, with a monstrous head of light brown seafoam. 3 fingers worth on initial pour, which recedes fairly quickly... But very active. Explosive bubbling action going on, causing it to look like a boiling potion. Once it reaches about a finger tall, it kinda stops receding. Wonderful.

S: A full, but clean coffee aroma - smells almost more like espresso qualities. Soft, chocolate notes.

T + M: Sugared coffee - the creaminess gives it a bit of a lactose quality in some ways without that kind of flavour going on. Quite a sweet beer with the little edge of coffeebean bitterness.

D: Wonderfully drinkable with a reasonable, but somewhat notable alcohol content. Very nice.

Photo of farrago
4.29/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

You get two fingers of head, profuse amount of larger bubbles has it dissolving quickly, very deep tan color, minimal stickiness to the lacing. The liquid is 100% black, not a hint of color to be found. The nose smells like a Starbucks at 8:00 AM, coffee, coffee, coffee fills the air, the heavy roast extends to the dark chocolate, toasted coconut accents, dollop of plum and cherry fruit scents, one assumes hops were used in the creation of this brew but nothing evident in the nose. Full-bodied, curiously foamy mouth entry, albeit the carbonation trails off after that. Heavily roasted espresso dominates, bitter and oily, forms a thick cloud of perfume in the mouth. Bittersweet dark chocolate, honey, uncooked oatmeal, what really saves the beer is the underlying sweetness and semi-creamy texture, it gives you breathing room to enjoy the coffee without excessive bitterness. As with many beers of such tight focus, if you agree with the vibe it'll knock your socks off, if not, after one glass you'll get bored.

Pisgah Valdez from Pisgah Brewing Co.
92 out of 100 based on 325 ratings.