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Pisgah Valdez - Pisgah Brewing Co.

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

282 Ratings
THE BROS
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(send 'em beer!)
Ratings: 282
Reviews: 193
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 11.54%
Wants: 183
Gots: 18 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Pisgah Brewing Co. visit their website
North Carolina, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 12-02-2007)
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BlackBelt5112203

Michigan

4.75/5  rDev +14.2%

02-28-2013 05:38:06 | More by BlackBelt5112203
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Murchmac

California

3.73/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Taylor for sharing this impossible to get on the west coast treat. I thought this was a DIPA, but when it poured out I realized I was wrong.

Pours a nice foamy tan head, black from the waist down.

Has roasted coffee, olive? chocolate smells. Smells like a tan greek.

Coffe up front, some bitter hops shine through, but mostly coffee and chocolate.

A little too thin, but when it warms up and coats your tongue, very tasty residuals of choco-coffee. Not a lot of alcohol bit, which is good.

Overall an interesting beer, to be so complex and low abv is a job well done. Good on ya mates.

Serving type: bottle

01-11-2009 22:03:54 | More by Murchmac
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azdback

Arizona

3.93/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to McNuts for this freebee at an in person pint at Papago.

Poured into a tulip glass. Dark, dark, dark brown in color. No light penetrates this one. Head is three fingers and a beautiful light brown, dolloped on, sticky masterpiece. Lace is starting out like a champ, but doesn't stay around to the end.

Smell is of dark roasted coffee. Not so much coffee grounds or beans, but the aroma you get from fresh brewed coffee. Maybe just a hint of chocolate and some smoke or char.

Taste is kind of like burnt coffee. Not in a bad way though. Just deep roasted flavors that come to me as that. There is ash or smoke flavor there also. End is a bit tart and the taste of a raspberry or cherry. I don't get any chocolate flavors and at 6.8% I defiantly don't get any alcohol.

The mouth is probably where this one falls off for me. For it being called a Double or Imperial Stout it is pretty thin. I could name quite a few Imperial Porters with a better mouth than this. It is thin and watery. More a Porter than an IS.

Overall I was very happy with this. Valdez has an excellent smell and taste, but falls short of the category with it's weak mouth. That being said... I still recommend this to any one that has access.

Serving type: bottle

05-23-2011 04:55:16 | More by azdback
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RedHaze

Nebraska

4/5  rDev -3.8%

01-16-2012 00:55:15 | More by RedHaze
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ATLbeerDog

Georgia

4.47/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a simply beautiful dark brownish/black - like root beer only a couple shades darker. A full rich 2 finger caramel colored head tops the beer and just does not recede. Super thick lacing completely covers the glass. Smells of perfectly roasted high quality coffee beans dominate the nose. I am in no rush to taste this beer as the aroma alone is especially captivating. First sip is a coffee rush that would satisfy most anyone standing in line at Starbucks. Like the aroma, the tastes screams perfectly deep-roasted high quality oily beans. A bunch of dark chocolate bleeds thru. The mouthfeel, like everything else about this beer is phenomenal.

Serving type: bottle

01-23-2009 02:02:22 | More by ATLbeerDog
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lakersfan16

Alaska

3.75/5  rDev -9.9%

07-06-2014 21:13:19 | More by lakersfan16
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ncvbc

North Carolina

4.83/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Before I start, let me tell you that I do love coffee.

Pours near black with ruby edges and a nice tan head that caps it off and remains for a good while, leaving a good ring with light lacing down the glass. Smell is heavenly. The most fresh coffee I've ever smelled in a beer, as if it were just ground. Good and roasted with a grainy scent. Taste might have just one-upped Breakfast Stout. First it's dark, roasted coffee grounds. Very fresh and tasty, exploding on tongue. It seems too intense until a creamy sensation comes to rescue. Some vanilla and light oats with milky chocolate. It's like I was drinking some black coffee and all the sudden the beer knew I liked a little cream and sugar, brilliant! Mouthfeel is pushing full and I'm not sure this is big enough to qualify as a Double/Imperial Stout but it's excellent. Velvety and creamy for the most part with a slight roast bitterness in there. I had three pints from the growler without even thinking twice...that's when I realized that this might be my new favorite coffee stout.

I think this is actually considered an American Stout and if so it would get a perfect score in my book.

Serving type: growler

02-12-2008 03:11:05 | More by ncvbc
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midlifec

Michigan

4/5  rDev -3.8%

06-24-2014 00:29:08 | More by midlifec
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Lunch

Maryland

4.55/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle gifted to me a generous extra courtesy of Marine1975 during and in-person trade at Sexual Chocolate 2011, thanks Shane!

Poured in my Troegs Troegenator mug from a 22oz bottles right after arriving home from SC'11. Pours thick and creamy and it bascially black in color, looks delicious and I can smell it already. Strong coffee aroma that smells incredibly fresh. Some cocoa, coffee steal the show and I am really enjoying this already. Taste is equally as nice with coffee, espresso, cocoa, milk chocolate and hints of bitter dark chocolate. Mouthfeel is fuller than some people are of themselves on this site.

Overall this is a great beer and one that I would have on hand at all times if it were available in my area.

Serving type: bottle

04-24-2011 22:39:00 | More by Lunch
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Enola

North Carolina

4.93/5  rDev +18.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

This beer is absolutly outstanding. A nice deep black with a tan head. The smell is like a pot of fresh coffee brewing. The taste is like a gourmet blend from the downtown coffee house. Mouthfeel is smooth and drinkability os wonderfull as well. This beer continues Pisgah's upward swing in NC brewing. The next time I have this brew I may add a litte cream and sugar. Great job Pisgah!!

Serving type: growler

03-08-2008 18:40:12 | More by Enola
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JamnesCameron

Illinois

4.93/5  rDev +18.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

This bottle is from September 2008. Poured into a MJ tasting glass. Pours a very deep russet brown with garnet highlights near the bottom of the tulip glass. Big, three finger mocha colored head, that drops fairly quickly, leaving a wisp of foam.

Aromas of dark roasted coffee. Some caramel and roasted malts, but the main attraction is the coffee. Coffee also lends a nice roasty bitterness.

Flavors are big, dark roasted coffee, bittersweet cocoa, some roasted graininess. No hop flavor to speak of. This is not just a coffee stout, it's a COFFEE stout. Lingering bitter roasted coffee on the finish, that fades into a nice bittersweet cocoa.

Mouthfeel is big and chewy, not thick and syrupy, but gives a big presence in the mouth, coating everything.

Overall, an excellent coffee stout. Once of the better balanced examples, with lots of flavor.

Serving type: bottle

05-10-2011 01:16:13 | More by JamnesCameron
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hoppymeal

Michigan

4.38/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

September 08 bottle. Pours black with a cola tan head of good size, that very slowly recedes, leaving behind some good lacing. Incredible coffee aroma, nice roasted bean aroma, some chocolate and vanilla sweetness blend with it and help to accentuate the coffee. Flavor is similar with a good dose of coffee, some tanginess, but not an 'over-roasted' tanginess, milk like flavor is definitely present in the flavor along with a small amount of caramel and vanilla sweetness. Some cola in there and a slightly dry smokey finish. Mouthfeel has a nice creaminess, medium in weight, the creaminess makes for a fullness on the palate mid taste, the tanginess from the roast comes in afterwards and leads into a only slightly dry finish. This beer is definitely one of the best coffee stouts I've ever had the pleasure to try. Right up there with Kuhnhenn, though their's is different and also with Short's, very similar. Well done Pisgah, extremely drinkable, and a solid, fresh ground coffee experience in this one.

Serving type: bottle

10-18-2008 20:35:18 | More by hoppymeal
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NittanyBeerFan

Pennsylvania

4.13/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to stoutfiend27 for providing this bottle for a recent tasting that we had.

Poured into a tulip, which was my weapon of choice for the day, the beer is a fully opaque black that is capped by a fluffy and creamy hot chocolate-colored head. It is well retained and produces significant lacing in a cobweb-like pattern.

The smell is dominated by natural coffee notes. Too often, I feel, coffee stouts are augmented by cheap imitation coffee flavor. Not so with Valdez. A natural coffee and roast inundate the nose. The taste brings on more of the same, with the notable addition of caramel to the dessert-like medley. There is also a hint of chocolate that comes through in the finish.

Creamy and full-bodied, this beer does not disappoint. It lived up to the expectations I had based on the little that I had heard about it. A very solid coffee stout, and if not for its relative difficulty to procure, could be one of my go-tos for the style.

Serving type: bottle

11-30-2010 05:48:24 | More by NittanyBeerFan
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twowheelssoar

North Carolina

4.5/5  rDev +8.2%

06-30-2014 04:46:14 | More by twowheelssoar
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goindownsouth

Pennsylvania

3.78/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Thanks to mikesgroove for allowing me to take part in this bomber.

Jet black in colour, effervescent head that died quickly with essentially no lacing throughout. Aromas strong of roasted coffee and some malt tones. Not much else. The coffee flavor was pretty dominant. Not a bad thing. But there really was little else. Slight roasted flavor to play with the coffee notes, but not much else.

A decent brew, overall.

Serving type: bottle

09-07-2008 13:12:52 | More by goindownsouth
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khiasmus

South Carolina

3.8/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The only thing that keeps this from getting a perfect appearance score for an impy stout is a bunch of floaties in it. Interesting.
Smells like coffee. Very little else. Some sweet grain, some roastiness, but basically coffee.
Flavor is much the same. A good malt backbone, but mostly coffee. Not much else. Rather one-dimensional. Good for breakfast.
Initially very carbonated and a bit thin. Mouthfeel gets better as the beer warms, becomes a bit silky with a slightly dry finish.
The beer is good. Worth a try. I find it to be a bit overrated, however. A bit one dimensional.

Serving type: bottle

09-29-2008 01:22:47 | More by khiasmus
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jpro

South Carolina

4.38/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Picked up a 22oz bomber at Peabody's in Boone. Poured into a standard shaker pint...

A: Near pitch black, maybe some dark brown in there; forms a nice, one-finger, thick, dark mocha head; leaves a few strands of lace and there's virtually no retention after a few minutes.

S: Smells pretty darn scrumptious; rich, rich coffee aroma with some caramel and toffee; maybe some sweet malts a la malted milk / Whoppers, too.

T: HUGE coffee! Wow! Super duper roasted malts; leaves a lasting burnt malt bitterness... this coffee bitter dominated any hop bite... crazy.

M: Near full-bodied and creamy... nice.

D: Enjoyable, yet more of a beer to savor; coffee is almost overpowering on this one! This is the biggest coffee stout I've had!

Serving type: bottle

01-21-2011 04:32:18 | More by jpro
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rhinos00

Colorado

4.4/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Poured from a 22 oz. bomber into a pint glass.

A- Pours a dark cola with zero visibility when held in light. Produced a massive three fingers width of tan head. Over time reduced to half a fingers width of creamy deliciousness. Some retention as the beer was consumed. Reminded of pouring a can of Young's Double Chocolate Stout.

S- Lack of potentcy and a little too one dimensional. Getting lots of espresso and fresh made coffee in the nose...that's about it. For this simple of an aroma, I was hoping for stronger characteristics.

T- Honestly, just imagine a cup of coffee you made on your way to work, but in beer form. What I really enjoyed about the taste is the coffee flavor was controlled. Nothing was overpowering...in a good way. I also was a big fan of the lack of roasted flavors as sometimes this can be way overdone and dominate.

M- Superb. Medium bodied with a wonderful smoothness. Almost reminds of a nice cream stout.

D- The drinkability is laughable. I had to question whether or not I was even drinking a beer at some points. This is by far the quickest I have polished off a coffee beer and I don't even like coffee beers, not too mention it's a bomber.

Overall, if you like your coffee non-roasted with a bit of milk or cream in it, you will be heaven. I have never enjoyed a coffee beer so much. This is one I will definitely be seeking out in the future. To tell you the truth, this is the first time Pisgah has actually impressed me. Well done.

Serving type: bottle

07-28-2009 04:02:23 | More by rhinos00
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KFrank729

Ohio

5/5  rDev +20.2%

03-01-2014 23:49:32 | More by KFrank729
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KevSal

California

4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

07-28-2012 04:07:09 | More by KevSal
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csmiley

Ohio

4.33/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - Pours nearly black in color. Minimal light gets through at the edges and reveals a medium to dark brown. The tan head tops out at an inch and recedes quickly. It ends up as a nice thick foamy cap that really makes the beer appear more enticing. Some lace remains in the glass but not too much.

S - Coffee really stands out in the aroma at first. Smells like fresh ground coffee to me. It gets very quickly followed by a nice supporting cast of bittersweet chocolate and cocoa. It finishes off with a smokey dark malt aroma. Alcohol is not noted at all.

T - Ground coffee and espresso really dominate the flavor. It pushes the envelope but never gets too out of control. Some chocolate is able to push through midway. It's mostly bittersweet and starts to smooth out towards the end. Other flavors that come in are charcoal, cherry, and you guessed it, more coffee. Finishes off with more of a brewed coffee flavor. Alcohol is almost completely hidden.

M - Light bodied for the style. Carbonation is light. Bitter and chalky at first and finishes a little dry.

D - Drinkability is really good. Alcohol is hidden well behind all the flavors. The coffee comes across as pretty strong but it really does work well. As it warms this beer becomes smoother and all the flavors start working together more and more. The larger bottle (750 ml) works well for this beer. After one pint, all you really want is...another pint. I would definitely have this beer again if ever given the opportunity.

Serving type: bottle

07-27-2009 02:15:39 | More by csmiley
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bespin15

Washington

5/5  rDev +20.2%

12-05-2011 11:12:26 | More by bespin15
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Erdinger2003

Iowa

3.75/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Deuane for this bottle...I finally got around to drinking this.

Pours a highly carbonated black colored liquid that has a dark red hue when thinned out into light. Lacing is not present, but small pieces of what would be a lacing trail slightly. Smells like bourbon with an almost sour note that I think comes from the roastiness meeting the bourbon. Almost light bodied, it feels highly attenuated with such carbonation and lighter feeling body.

It's fairly dry and seemingly higher in alcohol than what's presented on the label. The sourness of the bourbon meets the roastiness and right away a lot of flavor seems to be released from the palate due to the carbonation. The slightly sweeter bourbon does make an appearance after swallowing starting the aftertaste off nicely.

Mouthfeel is highly carbonated and light, making the overall drinkability go down slightly judging by mouthfeel alone.

Serving type: bottle

03-19-2009 04:35:12 | More by Erdinger2003
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ShadesOfGray

Pennsylvania

4.18/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Got as an extra from jmu500...thanks again John; looking forward to this, considering it was one of my wants! Vintage 2008.

Poured from a cork and caged 750ml bottle into my Portsmouth large tulip/snifter glass. Pours a dark brown...filling the glass a solid black, and a massive frothy tan head. Head retention is mild...but dissipates into a creamy, patchy surface. Lacing is nice, but slides relatively quick.

Aroma is exactly what I expected...a coffee stout! Loads of great coffee notes and roasted malts.

Flavor is very nice for its style. True to form, a GREAT coffee stout! The coffee flavor is not only strong, but a tasty coffee resemblance. It's so stinkin' drinkable too! Medium body, high carbonation...which isn't generally a good thing for stouts...but this one works well! There's a slight milk or cream flavor added to the coffee, and not much hops to speak of...but that could also be due to age. Delicious!

Serving type: bottle

07-16-2010 02:58:35 | More by ShadesOfGray
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GuisseppeFranco

New York

3.5/5  rDev -15.9%

04-06-2012 09:20:26 | More by GuisseppeFranco
Pisgah Valdez from Pisgah Brewing Co.
92 out of 100 based on 282 ratings.