Pisgah Valdez - Pisgah Brewing Co.

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BA SCORE
92
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310 Ratings
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Ratings: 310
Reviews: 195
rAvg: 4.14
pDev: 11.84%
Wants: 179
Gots: 19 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Pisgah Brewing Co. visit their website
North Carolina, United States

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  6.80% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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(Beer added by: mikesgroove on 12-02-2007)
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Photo of popery
3.75/5  rDev -9.4%

Photo of maximum12
3.98/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to mikesgroove & ncvbc who offered me up bottles of this during the winter. Happy to try any coffee-upped stout, especially one with such a good rep. This one was bottled in September 2008. Bring me coffee!

Valdez is black, & very bubbly with a significant head on him. Smell is aggressively coffee as soon as the cork pops. Intersestingly, once it settles into the tulip, the nose simmers down quite a bit.

This is what coffee should taste like for those of us who don't dig it! The coffee taste is there, & fairly pronouned, but isn't drowning the baby beer behind it. The carbonation creates a definite bubbling in the mouth...other than that, I can't pick out anything in particular. It's just good. Weird. There's a solid body behind it of, well, something. And it's a good one.

All in all a very good beer. This one comes off as a beer that could be extreme, but's not, & that's just fine. Fits it's style alright.

Photo of whartontallboy
4/5  rDev -3.4%

Photo of blackie
4.83/5  rDev +16.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

brewed with beans from Dynamite Roasting - also of Black Mountain and definitely worthy of a visit

a: standard pint glass, pitch black with great retention and lace

s: absolutely loaded with vivid, fresh medium-roast coffee aromas, with dark roasted chocolate providing an underpinning, seriously like taking a bag of fresh-ground to the face, but not without the chocolate/burnt sugar body to support, the coffee clearly overpowers the malt while benefiting greatly from the full, rich support it provides, love it

m: body in the lighter side of full, low-medium carbonation, creamy and smooth

t: the high reviews this beer gets are the truth, coffee flavors unlike any other - fresh medium roast free from any harsh side, big chocolate and roasted malt body, moving from smooth chocolate to big char in the finish, rating simply as an impy stout this would be a kick lower since it's so tilted towards pure coffee, but rating as a coffee beer makes for an easy 5

d: a fantastic coffee beer, with one of the better fresh coffee characters I've found

full pint at Barley's, Asheville

Photo of EgadBananas
4.22/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Received via round-about trade with mulder1010...thanks Pat (and Nick)!

Pours stout dark, with a surprisingly brown chocolate head. It wasn't massive, but nice looking still. Aroma was big coffee, with an equally big chocolate note and roasted backing. Big chocolate and coffee taste, nicely roasted, with a bitter coffee finish. Had a nice creaminess to it. With the ABV, I'm curious if there's some confusion as to the style here... Either way, this was a shining coffee stout example.

Photo of tpd975
4.78/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Good Morning from Tampa. The Fed Ex guy rang the door bell nice and early on this Saturday morning to deliver a wonderful package from unclejedi. Ah, Pisagh Valdez a brew I have been after since last year. It's morning, it's a coffee stout what the hell. I put one bottle away and threw the other in the fridge for a quick slight drop in temp.

A: Poured into my St Feuillien chalice. The the head towers quickly to over one finger. It is made of millions of tiny creamed espresso bubbles. The drink itself is very black. The name Valdez seems fitting for this one. The retention is nice with a nice solid cap hanging around for quite sometime. Slight lace noted.

S: Talk about a morning pick me up. I have already had my coffee this morning, but let me tell you this one has more aroma than my normal cup of gourmet chocolate infused joe. Tons of nice fresh roasted coffee teems from the glass. Light hints of cream along with a hint of milky chocolate. Make no mistake about it coffee is what this one is all about though.

T: Mmmm, wish I had started my day with this rather than the real thing. Bold fresh roasted chocolate with just a hint of cocoa. I buy some premium chocolate coffee and this tastes better than the real thing. Behind the coffee and chocolate is just a bit of sweet cream, and a touch of darkened brown sugar. Coffee + Chocolate + Cream = Happiness!

M: Light for the style and somewhat thin. This is not necessarily bad though as it allowed me to put down the whole 750 ml myself rather easily.

D: See above. Very tasty and dangerously drinkable.

Wow thanks unclejedi. What a wonderful brew. I am glad I have another to share with the local tasting group.

Photo of muskiesman
4.25/5  rDev +2.7%

Photo of Pencible
4.18/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: This poured pitch black with a bit of tan head.
S: It smelled like lots of coffee, with a little cream and vanilla.
T: It tasted like strong coffee, with a bit of dark chocolate and cream and sugary vanilla. It had a lasting bitter aftertaste.
M: It was watery with a little carbonation. A bit too light.
D: This was up there with Peche Mortel and Brunch Weasel for super strong coffee beers. Very nice scent and taste, but the body was sort of weak. Easy enough to drink anyway, as long as you like coffee. Nice beer.

Photo of cosmicevan
4.43/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

big thanks to hopsleroy for hitting this long time want. enjoyed from a mother earth brewing snifter.

a - poured a watery black that settled into the glass deep and ominous with a tan mocha bubbly head that bubbled away quickly.

s - YUM! gourmet coffee. a fine roast. some chocolate. really just dominated by a really nice gourmet coffee smell. smells fantastic.

t - again, HUGE coffee notes. this is not for the faint of heart. big roast and some hints of bakers chocolate...some nice sweetness. i'm a fan.

m - slightly watery. almost tastes like a watered down coffee. carbonation is soft, body has some porter like char.

o - overall, i'm a BIG fan of this one. it is huge for coffee, but a bit watered down, but still works. not sure what vintage this is, but it doesn't taste anything like what some of the bad reviews boast so there might be bottle variation or even some batch variation? i couldn't have dug this one more.

Photo of Bung
4.43/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22 oz. Almost black pour with a tan head. Not a lot of lacing. Aroma is roasty, coffee and malt, more coffee. Mouthfeel it a little thin, but still medium bodied. Taste has coffee and bakers chocolate all around. Nice roast coffee/espresso finish. A very pleasant coffee stout and drinkable with a low abv for an Imperial. As much as I mentioned coffee it is by no means overdone. Worth trying it you can get your hands on it.

Photo of ffejherb
4.43/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Dispensed via growler on 9/28/09. Thanks to Deuane for procuring this for me during a recent trip to Asheville, NC.

A - This stout is one shade away from plummeting into the void of utter darkness. A thin, tan cap sits on top, but dispersed into a wispy veil that eventually disappeared, leaving behind only spots of lace.

S - Freshly ground coffee beans. Pure and simple. As Valdez warmed up, hints of tobacco and subtle leafy hop notes also emerged. Some chocolate and tar-like gunk (in a good way) also creeped out from underneath the coffee beans. For some strange reason, I also got a subtle waft of garage. Yes, garage.

T - Again, coffee dominates with an iced coffee character and abumdance of roasty flavor. Subtle hints of chocolate, tar and tobacco also emerge, but this stout is all about that little dark brown bean.

M - Medium bodied with an icy, watery texture, a little thin perhaps, and very softly carbonated. Finishes with coffee bitterness and mild astringency on the palate.

D - Juan would be proud that this fine coffee stout shares his namesake. Of course, maybe he doesn't drink beer. Well, he does now! This is some serious competition for Planet Bean. Never heard of it? Seek it out!

Photo of DavoleBomb
3.4/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured into a snifter. Not quite sure how 6.8% ABV justifies the "imperial" designation, but whatever.

4.0 A: Light black in color if that makes any sense. Two fingers of frothy light brown head with not quite average retention and not really any lacing.

5.0 S: Awesome! I had no idea this was a coffee stout. Given that, I'm bumping the appearance from a 3.5 to a 4 since I know how coffee does a number on head retention. Perfect coffee aroma - in my face, yet not overbearing. Instead of being balance with sweetness, there's more roastiness behind it in the form of roasted barley. As it warms, semi-sweet chocolate and rich caramel come out. Excellent.

3.0 T: I'm loving the coffee in the taste, but it's much more one dimensional than the nose. There just isn't enough of anything else to balance the powerful coffee. This is understandable given my qualms with the mouthfeel. The coffee covers up whatever else is in there.

2.5 M: Light body. With a thicker body this one would have been a lot better. The extra residual sugar would also have balanced out the coffee taste. Carbonation is a bit higher than I'd like as well, but that is trivial compared to the body problem.

3.0 D: This beer could be fabulous if they upped the mouthfeel to a medium or thicker body. Although I love the strong coffee flavor, it needs some strong malts to supplement it.

Photo of prototypic
4.35/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Many, many thanks to csmiley for a very generous birthday gift. Very much appreciated.

Appearance: I'm really close to awarding a "5" here. This is a gorgeous beer. It's a very, very dark brown color (bordering on black). No light's getting through, even around the edges. The head is mocha colored and stands a very tall three and a half fingers. It's really close to perfect.

Smell: The nose is nice, but isn't quite a standout. It's actually a little weak in the strength department. Coffee is the the primary feature. It's a very strong coffee scent that nearly buries everything else. As a coffee fanatic, I can't complain about that. It's a fine smelling beer. But, it is lacking in complexity. There's some chocolate and roasted malts. But, that's about it. All in all, it's a nice smelling beer...if you're a coffee fan.

Taste: Wow. The coffee force is strong with this one. The flavor profile is nearly a carbon copy of the nose. But, the delivery is definitely better. The coffee flavor is very strong and flavorful. It's really difficult (almost impossible) for me to imagine a coffee averse being getting into this beer. Liking coffee seems like a prerequisite. This beer has some serious java mojo. There's a little chocolate and roasted malt flavor there to make it interesting. But, the coffee/espresso-esque flavor is a homerun. I really love this beer. There's not much going on in the hop department. Adding a little hop punch to this beer would damn near make it perfect. No alcohol is noted. It finishes sweet and bitter (in that java kind of way).

Mouthfeel/Drinkability: This one's light bodied. It's honestly a little too thin. Carbonation is pretty active. Nonetheless, it goes down very easy and has a relatively smooth feel. Drinkability is pretty high for me. I really love the flavor and the abv is not high enough to intimidate. My bottle indicates 6.8% abv.

I've been anxious to try Pisgah Valdez for quite a while. No doubt it's a damn fine beer. It is a beer that's probably reserved for coffee lovers. If you don't like coffee, you're not going to like it. But, for what it is, it's impressive. Very impressive. I do think it could be improved a little. In particulart, the nose could use some strength and it could stand a little thicker of a body. As far as flavor goes, lots and lots of win here. Highly recommended. Thanks, Chris. This one's been a real treat.

Photo of IrishColonial
4/5  rDev -3.4%

Photo of Deuane
4.9/5  rDev +18.4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A-Black with dark brown highlights with a dark tan head. Left decent lacing.

S-ok, this is simple COFFEE! Fresh, ground and brewed quality COFFEE! Can I give a number higher than 5?

T-Ready...this is not a trick question, COFFEE! How can you make a beer that tastes nothing like anything other then COFFEE? No hop bite...and who cares?

M-Full bodied but not heavy. Round. Not quite as creamy as I would have thought...more crisp than I expected.

D-If I told you I drank at least one pint (at least) of these all four days I was in Asheville plus I bought and hauled 4 growlers back to PA with me how could I not give this anything but a 5!

Easily the best straight up coffee brew I have EVER had! Sheer genius by the mad scientists at Pisgah...keep up the FANTASTIC work guys!

Photo of birchstick
3.75/5  rDev -9.4%

Photo of Dope
4.35/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: Pour a very dark brown with a big fluffy medium brown head. Fades slowly, leaving a decent film of lacing on the glass.

S: Huge coffee aroma. Like fresh roasted beans. Pretty much dominates, maybe a little chocolate creeps in.

T: Oddly not a coffee overload. It's got a bitter coffee flavor up front but then turns into a nice roasted malt char with lots of dark chocolate. Surprisingly well balanced and delicious.

M: Medium bodied, smooth. Bit of coffee bitterness lingers in the mouthfeel.

O: Was expecting a coffee bomb but wow this one surprised me. Wonderfully drinkable stout with a strong and tasty coffee element BUT it's balanced well for a great brew. I'm not even a coffee drinker and I'm pretty "meh" on most coffee beers. This is a must-try for ANY stout lover, but especially a coffee stout lover.

Photo of Immortale25
4.01/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Poured into a Dogfish Spiegelau glass. No freshness date.

A- Pours a mostly opaque black color with a 1/4 inch light brown head that retains well before becoming a thin ring around the edge of the glass and a mostly full sheet of sheer surface foam. Semi-resilient lacing leaves small clots behind.

S- Big earthy coffee aroma and some likewise earthy yeast. Almost has a Belgian characteristic to it like Chocolatized Vortex

T- Moderately bitter roasted coffee flavor with a bit more of that yeast element coming through. Sweetness is mild as is the alcohol presence. Very drinkable. Once the palate acclimates, the stout side becomes more apparent with the coffee being more of an afterthought. Caramel aftertaste.

M- Not as creamy as I was hoping. Medium carbonation and a full body.

O- I had this about 9 months ago on draft and was blown away by it. Now, it's good, but not really what I remember. I heard there was a slight recipe change before they started canning it to make the ABV lower but I see no separate listing with a different ABV. Oh well, still good stuff.

Photo of srandycarter
4.03/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Dark ass pour, mocha head, thick, reduces to disk.

S - Lots of coffee and cocoa.

T - SO MUCH flavor. Hits all the buttons, but maybe a little bit unbalanced and too sweet.

M - Yes, cloying, at least a little.

D - Except for the unbalancing problem, pretty darned good!

Photo of ADTaber
4/5  rDev -3.4%

Photo of homebrew311
4.35/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Received in trade with McNuts. Thanks man!

A: pours deep dark brown, tan colored head, only a collar sticks around, completely opaque, quite dark for a 6.8 % stout.

S: the nose nails the coffee stout thing... huge robust bold roasted coffee intertwined seamlessly with roasted malts and cocoa. Very similar to the nose of Breakfast Stout or Peche Mortel... this is a good thing.

T: tastes starts off with burnt roast, a touch of bitterness from the coffee, this is followed by waves of coffee, espresso, and dark chocolate. The finish is all chocolate with an aftertaste of coffee beans. Delicious.

MF: thin body for style, but not unexpected considering the abv, somewhat high carbonation

O: this one is a winner. Two of my favorite beverages packaged into one. Yum.

Photo of koopa
4.13/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22oz Bomber Bottled January 09' Consumed January 10'

Appearance: Pours an attractive deep dark brown with a 2 finger light brown crown that shows some retention and lace.

Smell: Chocolate malt, mellowed coffee, roast malt.

Taste: More coffee than chocolate (opposite of nose) and the finish actually tastes like cream! My mind screams "iced coffee" over and over!

Mouthfeel: A touch thick but mighty slick too. Carbonation is ultra fine and comes into play about 2/3 of the way through the swallow.

Drinkability: Easy living!

Photo of GbVDave
4.47/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 22oz bottle into multiple glasses.

A: Pours a deep, tarry, black. Dark espresso crema colored head on top doesn't retain for very long, but leaves a little lace behind.

S: Holy crap! This smells just like chocolate covered espresso beans. Also along for the ride is blackened malt, dark fruit, and even more coffee and chocolate.

T: See above...nothing else to say.

M: Extremely coating, much like the oil spill from its' namesake oil tanker.

D: A scarily excellent coffee stout. Whew!

Photo of ncstateplaya
4/5  rDev -3.4%

Photo of Falcone
4.25/5  rDev +2.7%

Pisgah Valdez from Pisgah Brewing Co.
92 out of 100 based on 310 ratings.