Cazeau Tournay Noire - Brasserie De Cazeau

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BA SCORE
83
good

88 Ratings
THE BROS
90
outstanding

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Ratings: 88
Reviews: 55
rAvg: 3.68
pDev: 14.4%
Wants: 3
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brasserie De Cazeau visit their website
Belgium

Style | ABV
Foreign / Export Stout |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Fall

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Suds on 10-17-2008)
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1/5  rDev -72.8%

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2.5/5  rDev -32.1%

Photo of bark
2.63/5  rDev -28.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

The colour is very deep brown-red (80 EBC), the liquid is clear. The three finger pale brown head is very airy and uneven. It slowly sinks, leaving some thick lacing on the glass. Lots of yeast in the bottle.

The smell is very roasted ad a bit sweet. Distinct alcohol. Coffee, roasted nuts and liquorice. Lots of pleasant notes, however a bit thin.

The taste is a bit sweet. Roasted notes of coffee, dark chocolate and sweet liquorice. Some plums and pumpernickel. The body is thin. The aftertaste got some coffee candy, alcohol and solvents. It is short and leaves just traces of colour malt in the finish.

The carbonation is light, the medium sized bubbles very smooth. The liquid is thing, especially in the view of 7,6 % alcohol.

A thin and uninteresting black beer. Not impressed.

Photo of rustrose
2.63/5  rDev -28.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

This opened with a huge hiss. A gentle pour soon revealed that this is carbonated to ridiculous levels, like a Duvel. It actually irks me a little when beers are like this—2/3 foam, uncontrollable, and 1/3 beer. Can’t even pour out the bottle. The head is huge and rocky and dense like kraeusen. It obviously holds well, and laces the glass with sticky, drying webs of foam. However, I no longer consider a big fluffy head to be an asset of a beer if it is accomplished by overcarbonation—it seems to me that the American craft brew scene is overly attached to the appearance of a big head, and tends to praise this even when in fact it is actually the side product of a defective mouthfeel caused by overly aggressive carbonation, of which Americans are not nearly critical enough. To me, the feel and texture of the beer is dramatically more important than its appearance. That said, this is pretty after the rockiness falls. But it was not pretty at full peak. Too sticky looking and unnatural.

On the nose I pick up some plum and fresh fig, and that harshness of overcarbonation and perhaps infection that plagued some of my homebrews. Some candi sugar for sure, but it smells a bit dull or muted. I suspect this bottle is old and I’m picking up some oxidation. Best before end of 2011. These best before dates are utterly useless. Who knows how long they consider this thing good. On another whiff, I get licorice tones. Some coffee is emerging as this warms. But that harsh overcarbonation smell is present throughout, and distracting. Also, some metallic character. Overall, a surprisingly muted aroma for a stout, and a Belgian beer.

Seems like sort of a clash between the dark fruity flavors of candi syrup and the acidic roastiness of a stout. Wish I knew what kind of roasted malts they used. Palate strikes me as licorice and currants or raisins upfront, followed by a wash of acidic roasted malts. On the whole, it is semi-dry, with a bitter finish. I actually think these flavors could work pretty well together without clashing so much if not for the ridiculously aggressive carbonation bite. It obscures the subtleties of this brew. Plus, the flavors just don’t pack a lot of… flavor. It seems a bit dull and watery for a stout of this strength.

Mouthfeel is harsh and sharp from overcarbonation. This carbonation level does not meld well with the roasted malts and acidity of the stout. Too sharp. This is a ridiculous level of carbonation for a stout. Makes me wonder if this was the intention, or, more likely, if I got an infected bottle.

Well, this one goes to show you that there is nothing magical about Belgium, and not every beer they turn out is amazing simply because it is brewed there. This one is unbalanced, sharp, and clashing, while simultaneously lackluster and dull. Bleh. Definitely not an inspiration towards Belgian Stout.

In a word: lackluster.

Photo of TonyTalon
2.75/5  rDev -25.3%

Photo of mattfancett
2.95/5  rDev -19.8%

Photo of ejimhof
3/5  rDev -18.5%

Photo of imperialking
3/5  rDev -18.5%

Photo of JudgeRoughneck
3.01/5  rDev -18.2%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.75

APPEARANCE- black with ruby highlights, thin tan head with stringy lace and poorly formed legs

AROMA- sweet maltiness with low dried fruit notes - prune, plum, - faint clove in background, big floral element of rose and violet, some acetylaldehyde, no diacetyl, maybe a slight hint of hop-derived anise,... more caramel malt on backend..no alcohol.very inviting, but im ready for this to be syrup

FLAVOR- unexpectedly dry, I suppose from dominant roasted malt flavor, low levels of caramel malt sweetness, spicy phenol or alcohol, and extremely faint cherry note. Very simple beer, that is basically it for flavor. Long finish

MF- a bit prickly and lightly astringent, but not unpleasant, medium-light bodied, turns a little plush as it warms, but alcohol and roast do needle the palate throughout, medium carbonation,

OVERALL- not bad, but a little dull, vaguely reminiscent of a St Fuellien yeast character

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.05/5  rDev -17.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle: Poured a medium black color ale with a large off-white head with good retention and some lacing. Aroma of light roasted malt with Belgian malt and some light DMS. Taste is also dominated by lightly sweet Belgian malt with some lightly roasted malt and some overcooked vegetables which is not strong enough to ruin this beer but not very pleasant either. Body is somewhat full with great carbonation and no alcohol is showing. Interesting take on the style but too flawed to try on a regular basis.

Photo of Kegatron
3.18/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

11.2 oz bottle into a goblet.

Pours a deep ruddy brown, with a finger of thick light mocha colored head. This retains with a frothy ¾ finger which leaves back swathes of lacing that sticks to the sides of the glass. The aroma smells of cocoa, brown sugar, dark fruit, and a good bit of peppery spice. Underlying alcohol warmth adds a bit of fullness to the nose.

The taste is cocoa powder, caramel, mellow ripe fruit, and then some darker roasted malt character along the back. This ends dry and spicy on the finish. The mouthfeel is fuller bodied, with a softer creaminess to the carbonation that expands out into the mouth and prickles the tongue a bit. The overall mouthfeel is pretty mellow though while the alcohol warmth that is present mostly pops the spiciness of the finish.

The was decent enough I guess and while there was an assortment of flavors here, the strength of the spice just kind of overran everything else at times, giving the profiles a bit of a flat feel. This wasn’t offensive or anything but I doubt that I’ll be trying it again either.

Photo of Evil_Pidde
3.18/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: Pours dark brown with a massive tan head, that starts off creamy but turns soapy and uneven. Dissipation takes a while and leaves nice lacings.

S: Roasted malts, semi-sweet. Some coffee, some chocolate, but to put it in a nice way; it's not the strongest smelling Stouts I've had...

T: Sweet roasted malts, vanilla and smoke as well. Strong black coffee and some faint notes of dark bitter chocolate. Some dark dried fruits in the back.

M: Body is thin and carbonation is mild. Aftertaste lingers wiht a balanced bitterness.

O: Overall, I'm quite dissapointed; way too thin for may taste. It feels like it lacks large quantities of malt...

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3.25/5  rDev -11.7%

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3.25/5  rDev -11.7%

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3.25/5  rDev -11.7%

Photo of mscudder
3.28/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Served in a narrow snifter.

A - Ruby brown hue with a large tan head. Fair retention and lacing.

S - Big milk chocolate, light bitterness, slight coffee and candi sugar.

T - Soft notes that follow the nose. Balance is good, but a lack of bold/robust flavors makes this beer forgettable.

M - Fairly creamy for the style. Medium- body with mild carbonation.

O - Not a huge fan of the style and this is no exception. Not painful to consume, although I'll look the other way next time I spot one.

Photo of organicbrewer
3.28/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A-Huge tan head. Black. Nice

S-Chocolate and cinnamon. Some mocha. Belgian yeast. Not too much going on

T-Some roast and a little ashtray (black patent?). Belgiany esters. Not overly bitter, could use more hop bitterness.

M-medium to dry. medium carbonation. No alcohol warmth.

D-Very drinkable. Hides its 7.6%abv very well. Could use more stout like qualities. More bitterness from either the roasted grains or hops. Either way not bad.

Photo of clearlydiluted
3.28/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

a: pours a dark-ruby near black brown with a substantial

s: chocolate, some spicy notes

t: slightly sweet, smooth chocolate and roasty notes with a hint of phenolic notes that lets you know that it's a belgian style stout. slightly malty and ends with a smooth and dry bitter note.

m: fairly thin with a low amount of carbonation

d: desceptive in it's smoothness, nothing says that it is at 7.6% ABV. it drinks more like a 4% dry stout. it's not bad, but I don't know if I'd buy it again.

Photo of Stinkypuss
3.35/5  rDev -9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Tournay Noire

Served ontap into a small chalice. Black with ruby highlights, small head that dies quickly. Aroma is light, just a little roast and belgian yeast. The flavor is light, small roasted malt and a sour twang too. Belgian yeast plays a role , adding a subtle fruityness that works well with the mild sour note. More roasted malt on the back end but somewhat thin, as is the body. Smooth and easy drinking, an interesting brew that I am glad I got to try.

Photo of lackenhauser
3.38/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Labeled BLACK not Noire-probably for the US. Nice, jet black color with a sizeable tan/cocoa like head. Nice lacing on down the glass. Somewhat metallic, earthy aroma. Yeasty and sharp flavor right upfront. Some hop bite. Faint roasted quality. Mild cocoa notes as it warms. Earthy and bready-more Belgian than stout like if anything. Too thin for my liking. An ok example of a Belgian stout but I have had better for sure.

Photo of MisterSH
3.43/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

11.2 oz bottle. Picked this up at Bierkraft in Brooklyn. BB 2010 notched. I've got an American label here... "Tournay Black" instead of the "noir" pictured.

Pours a deep garnet brown with a sizeable mocha looking head.
Aroma is yeasty, chocolate, dark fruit, rather sweet and slightly alcoholic. Smells quite like an American imperial stout to me.

Taste is moderately malty with some spice and subtle licorice, not nearly as fruity as the aroma would have suggested, also not nearly as full bodied as I expected. Quite bready. Blossoms into a mellow, creamy coffee note and some hints of estery yeast on finish, slight lingering bitterness.

MF is fairly chewy and thick with moderate to heavy carb that dissapates pretty quickly.

Rather interesting. I've little experience with belgian stouts, but this is quite subtle and seems an easy segue into the style from the American and British stouts I'm more used to. A distinct estery belgian spice is surprisingly hidden and well integrated. Pretty subtle and easy overall, a stronger malt profile with some amped-up roasty notes would add another layer of complexity from which this beer would doubtlessly benefit. I'm certainly glad I tried it, I wouldn't go out of my way to buy another bottle but I'd drink it again without hesitation, if offered.

Photo of Cyberkedi
3.48/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Aroma has a strong smoky tone with coffee and molasses components and hints of caramel and nuts. It pours a deep sable with a respectable, if not thick, light tan head. Flavor is smoky and has unsweet chocolate, roast coffee and molasses tones with a hint of caramel. Texture is fairly smooth, not as thick as most stouts, and just a little tingly.

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3.5/5  rDev -4.9%

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3.5/5  rDev -4.9%

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3.5/5  rDev -4.9%

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Cazeau Tournay Noire from Brasserie De Cazeau
83 out of 100 based on 88 ratings.