Cazeau Tournay Noire - Brasserie De Cazeau

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BA SCORE
83
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89 Ratings
THE BROS
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outstanding

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Ratings: 89
Reviews: 55
rAvg: 3.67
pDev: 14.44%
Wants: 3
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
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Belgium

Style | ABV
Foreign / Export Stout |  7.60% ABV

Availability: Fall

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Beer added by: Suds on 10-17-2008

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Ratings: 89 | Reviews: 55
Photo of rustrose
2.61/5  rDev -28.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

This opened with a huge hiss. A gentle pour soon revealed that this is carbonated to ridiculous levels, like a Duvel. It actually irks me a little when beers are like this—2/3 foam, uncontrollable, and 1/3 beer. Can’t even pour out the bottle. The head is huge and rocky and dense like kraeusen. It obviously holds well, and laces the glass with sticky, drying webs of foam. However, I no longer consider a big fluffy head to be an asset of a beer if it is accomplished by overcarbonation—it seems to me that the American craft brew scene is overly attached to the appearance of a big head, and tends to praise this even when in fact it is actually the side product of a defective mouthfeel caused by overly aggressive carbonation, of which Americans are not nearly critical enough. To me, the feel and texture of the beer is dramatically more important than its appearance. That said, this is pretty after the rockiness falls. But it was not pretty at full peak. Too sticky looking and unnatural.

On the nose I pick up some plum and fresh fig, and that harshness of overcarbonation and perhaps infection that plagued some of my homebrews. Some candi sugar for sure, but it smells a bit dull or muted. I suspect this bottle is old and I’m picking up some oxidation. Best before end of 2011. These best before dates are utterly useless. Who knows how long they consider this thing good. On another whiff, I get licorice tones. Some coffee is emerging as this warms. But that harsh overcarbonation smell is present throughout, and distracting. Also, some metallic character. Overall, a surprisingly muted aroma for a stout, and a Belgian beer.

Seems like sort of a clash between the dark fruity flavors of candi syrup and the acidic roastiness of a stout. Wish I knew what kind of roasted malts they used. Palate strikes me as licorice and currants or raisins upfront, followed by a wash of acidic roasted malts. On the whole, it is semi-dry, with a bitter finish. I actually think these flavors could work pretty well together without clashing so much if not for the ridiculously aggressive carbonation bite. It obscures the subtleties of this brew. Plus, the flavors just don’t pack a lot of… flavor. It seems a bit dull and watery for a stout of this strength.

Mouthfeel is harsh and sharp from overcarbonation. This carbonation level does not meld well with the roasted malts and acidity of the stout. Too sharp. This is a ridiculous level of carbonation for a stout. Makes me wonder if this was the intention, or, more likely, if I got an infected bottle.

Well, this one goes to show you that there is nothing magical about Belgium, and not every beer they turn out is amazing simply because it is brewed there. This one is unbalanced, sharp, and clashing, while simultaneously lackluster and dull. Bleh. Definitely not an inspiration towards Belgian Stout.

In a word: lackluster.

Photo of bark
2.64/5  rDev -28.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

The colour is very deep brown-red (80 EBC), the liquid is clear. The three finger pale brown head is very airy and uneven. It slowly sinks, leaving some thick lacing on the glass. Lots of yeast in the bottle.

The smell is very roasted ad a bit sweet. Distinct alcohol. Coffee, roasted nuts and liquorice. Lots of pleasant notes, however a bit thin.

The taste is a bit sweet. Roasted notes of coffee, dark chocolate and sweet liquorice. Some plums and pumpernickel. The body is thin. The aftertaste got some coffee candy, alcohol and solvents. It is short and leaves just traces of colour malt in the finish.

The carbonation is light, the medium sized bubbles very smooth. The liquid is thing, especially in the view of 7,6 % alcohol.

A thin and uninteresting black beer. Not impressed.

Photo of JudgeRoughneck
3.05/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.75

APPEARANCE- black with ruby highlights, thin tan head with stringy lace and poorly formed legs

AROMA- sweet maltiness with low dried fruit notes - prune, plum, - faint clove in background, big floral element of rose and violet, some acetylaldehyde, no diacetyl, maybe a slight hint of hop-derived anise,... more caramel malt on backend..no alcohol.very inviting, but im ready for this to be syrup

FLAVOR- unexpectedly dry, I suppose from dominant roasted malt flavor, low levels of caramel malt sweetness, spicy phenol or alcohol, and extremely faint cherry note. Very simple beer, that is basically it for flavor. Long finish

MF- a bit prickly and lightly astringent, but not unpleasant, medium-light bodied, turns a little plush as it warms, but alcohol and roast do needle the palate throughout, medium carbonation,

OVERALL- not bad, but a little dull, vaguely reminiscent of a St Fuellien yeast character

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.06/5  rDev -16.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle: Poured a medium black color ale with a large off-white head with good retention and some lacing. Aroma of light roasted malt with Belgian malt and some light DMS. Taste is also dominated by lightly sweet Belgian malt with some lightly roasted malt and some overcooked vegetables which is not strong enough to ruin this beer but not very pleasant either. Body is somewhat full with great carbonation and no alcohol is showing. Interesting take on the style but too flawed to try on a regular basis.

Photo of Evil_Pidde
3.14/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A: Pours dark brown with a massive tan head, that starts off creamy but turns soapy and uneven. Dissipation takes a while and leaves nice lacings.

S: Roasted malts, semi-sweet. Some coffee, some chocolate, but to put it in a nice way; it's not the strongest smelling Stouts I've had...

T: Sweet roasted malts, vanilla and smoke as well. Strong black coffee and some faint notes of dark bitter chocolate. Some dark dried fruits in the back.

M: Body is thin and carbonation is mild. Aftertaste lingers wiht a balanced bitterness.

O: Overall, I'm quite dissapointed; way too thin for may taste. It feels like it lacks large quantities of malt...

Photo of Kegatron
3.2/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

11.2 oz bottle into a goblet.

Pours a deep ruddy brown, with a finger of thick light mocha colored head. This retains with a frothy ¾ finger which leaves back swathes of lacing that sticks to the sides of the glass. The aroma smells of cocoa, brown sugar, dark fruit, and a good bit of peppery spice. Underlying alcohol warmth adds a bit of fullness to the nose.

The taste is cocoa powder, caramel, mellow ripe fruit, and then some darker roasted malt character along the back. This ends dry and spicy on the finish. The mouthfeel is fuller bodied, with a softer creaminess to the carbonation that expands out into the mouth and prickles the tongue a bit. The overall mouthfeel is pretty mellow though while the alcohol warmth that is present mostly pops the spiciness of the finish.

The was decent enough I guess and while there was an assortment of flavors here, the strength of the spice just kind of overran everything else at times, giving the profiles a bit of a flat feel. This wasn’t offensive or anything but I doubt that I’ll be trying it again either.

Photo of mscudder
3.29/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Served in a narrow snifter.

A - Ruby brown hue with a large tan head. Fair retention and lacing.

S - Big milk chocolate, light bitterness, slight coffee and candi sugar.

T - Soft notes that follow the nose. Balance is good, but a lack of bold/robust flavors makes this beer forgettable.

M - Fairly creamy for the style. Medium- body with mild carbonation.

O - Not a huge fan of the style and this is no exception. Not painful to consume, although I'll look the other way next time I spot one.

Photo of organicbrewer
3.29/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A-Huge tan head. Black. Nice

S-Chocolate and cinnamon. Some mocha. Belgian yeast. Not too much going on

T-Some roast and a little ashtray (black patent?). Belgiany esters. Not overly bitter, could use more hop bitterness.

M-medium to dry. medium carbonation. No alcohol warmth.

D-Very drinkable. Hides its 7.6%abv very well. Could use more stout like qualities. More bitterness from either the roasted grains or hops. Either way not bad.

Photo of clearlydiluted
3.3/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

a: pours a dark-ruby near black brown with a substantial

s: chocolate, some spicy notes

t: slightly sweet, smooth chocolate and roasty notes with a hint of phenolic notes that lets you know that it's a belgian style stout. slightly malty and ends with a smooth and dry bitter note.

m: fairly thin with a low amount of carbonation

d: desceptive in it's smoothness, nothing says that it is at 7.6% ABV. it drinks more like a 4% dry stout. it's not bad, but I don't know if I'd buy it again.

Photo of Stinkypuss
3.33/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Tournay Noire

Served ontap into a small chalice. Black with ruby highlights, small head that dies quickly. Aroma is light, just a little roast and belgian yeast. The flavor is light, small roasted malt and a sour twang too. Belgian yeast plays a role , adding a subtle fruityness that works well with the mild sour note. More roasted malt on the back end but somewhat thin, as is the body. Smooth and easy drinking, an interesting brew that I am glad I got to try.

Photo of lackenhauser
3.36/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Labeled BLACK not Noire-probably for the US. Nice, jet black color with a sizeable tan/cocoa like head. Nice lacing on down the glass. Somewhat metallic, earthy aroma. Yeasty and sharp flavor right upfront. Some hop bite. Faint roasted quality. Mild cocoa notes as it warms. Earthy and bready-more Belgian than stout like if anything. Too thin for my liking. An ok example of a Belgian stout but I have had better for sure.

Photo of MisterSH
3.43/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

11.2 oz bottle. Picked this up at Bierkraft in Brooklyn. BB 2010 notched. I've got an American label here... "Tournay Black" instead of the "noir" pictured.

Pours a deep garnet brown with a sizeable mocha looking head.
Aroma is yeasty, chocolate, dark fruit, rather sweet and slightly alcoholic. Smells quite like an American imperial stout to me.

Taste is moderately malty with some spice and subtle licorice, not nearly as fruity as the aroma would have suggested, also not nearly as full bodied as I expected. Quite bready. Blossoms into a mellow, creamy coffee note and some hints of estery yeast on finish, slight lingering bitterness.

MF is fairly chewy and thick with moderate to heavy carb that dissapates pretty quickly.

Rather interesting. I've little experience with belgian stouts, but this is quite subtle and seems an easy segue into the style from the American and British stouts I'm more used to. A distinct estery belgian spice is surprisingly hidden and well integrated. Pretty subtle and easy overall, a stronger malt profile with some amped-up roasty notes would add another layer of complexity from which this beer would doubtlessly benefit. I'm certainly glad I tried it, I wouldn't go out of my way to buy another bottle but I'd drink it again without hesitation, if offered.

Photo of Cyberkedi
3.48/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Aroma has a strong smoky tone with coffee and molasses components and hints of caramel and nuts. It pours a deep sable with a respectable, if not thick, light tan head. Flavor is smoky and has unsweet chocolate, roast coffee and molasses tones with a hint of caramel. Texture is fairly smooth, not as thick as most stouts, and just a little tingly.

Photo of jono311
3.5/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A-pitch black, no light is escaping this one.

S-light nose of roasted malt, hints of bitter chocolate.

T/M- Rich dark chocolate stout deliciousness, followed by some lighter coffee flavors, not much in the way of hops, just enough to keep the finish only slightly sweet and not cloying.

O-we don't see many stouts out of Belgium so its always interesting to try one when it appears. This one was a quality rich foreign stout but nothing to set it apart from other foreign stouts besides its country of origin.

I'll confess this one was late in a tasting night so perhaps I'll need to revisit it at some point to refine the review.

Photo of farrago
3.5/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Mammoth head, even a slow and steady pour fills two-thirds of the glass with tan airy microfoam, craters in the middle as it starts to slowly evaporate, the lacing is more like thin sheets and in turn stick well. Completely black liquid, thin sliver of orange at the bottom of the glass. Direct nose, almost tame, of dark chocolate, freshly ground coffee, malted milk balls, grape, cherry and plum fruit scents, has some hoppy kick but no distinguished individual scents. Medium-bodied, starts out creamy but dries up as it progresses, losing its softer texture. Carob, chocolate, coffee, butterscotch and a decent nuttiness set the table. Fresh grain brown bread, the kind of eat in chunks rather than slices. Slides you a slice or two of orange citrus. The carbonation has a tighter weave and more punch than expected given the delicacy of the head. Not much hops presence. It's credible but nothing special.

Photo of rhoadsrage
3.53/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a snifter) best before end 2011
A- This beer has a black body with a bubbly tan head that slowly boils away over a few sips. There are a few microbubbles that glide to the surface up the sides of the glass.
S- The clean aroma has a faint roasted grain hint and some more fresh candy estery notes in the finish.
T- The soft roasted char note gives way to a soft tartness and finishes with light black coffee taste that grows as the beer opens up.
M- This beer has a medium-light mouthfeel with a slight watery texture and no alcohol heat noticed.
D- The very clean light flavor won't improve much with age and there was very little character to begin with.

Photo of LilBeerDoctor
3.53/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle. Pours a dark brown with a small light tan head. Aroma of roasted malt, bitter chocolate, light fruits, and yeast. Flavor of sweet malt initially with a roasty finish, some more bitter chocolate notes. Definite Begian yeasty notes. Nothing too special, a little on the sweet side, but a chill Belgian stout.

Photo of Sammy
3.56/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Well, to be sure I had two bottles o this. I completely drank both, with some otehr beverages including lemon water inbetween. What I got was an interesting stout. Black with a white foam head leaving some lace on the aides, at tehe dnd of the drinking were lots of lace bits. The first bottle more than the second I detected some sourness, served just below room temperatre each time at Beer Bistro. Some sweetness, yes, but th sourness dominated the first bottle and was more balanced but still there in the second bottle. A creaminess in th mouthfeel, a liuttle chocolate. drying.Not a swett tout as advertsied. the astringency is in the way.

Photo of Bierman9
3.56/5  rDev -3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I bought this 750ml bottle at DeCicco's (Brewster) for $9.99; better value per ounce than a small bottle. Label says "Black" and not "Noire", is from Lot #1, and the best-before notch indicates 04/2011. A tad late. Quaffed yesterday (28AUG11) on the upstairs porch while watching Irene whip the rain and leaves around.

Poured into a Delerium Tremens tulip, this stout was a dense, opaque, dark brown color. Head was light beige, creamy and frothy, sitting at about 1/2" and creating good lacing. Nose had some choco and roasty malts; nothing strong, but pleasant. Though quite smooth on the tongue, Black was rather thin for a stout - a big letdown.

Bitter choco flavors first hit the palate, with some roasty coffee action, and a bit of acridity. Maybe a little mocha and molasses, too, before transitioning to a mildly floral finish. Though the flavor is pleasant, this one really lacks complexity. I found nothing in the way of dark fruit, for example. One and done for this bier, especially at the current price... Prosit!!

3.55 rDev -4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

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Photo of fank2788
3.6/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

33cl bottle served in a pint glass
Starts out with a couple centimeters of light khaki bubbles on top of deep brown beer that doesn't let much light through but does turn just a bit red at the edges. The smell is mostly sweet with a lot of dark fruit, plums and the like. Very little in the way of malt or typical stout like bitter chocolate in the nose. The taste is very smooth dark malts with only a hint of the bitterness that you would expect. The fruitiness comes through as well but the taste is much more dynamic than the smell with a lot of the more Belgian flavors of earthy, yeasty, vinous flavors in there as well, overall strange for a stout and more like a Belgian dark. Rather full bodied but quite smooth with low levels of carbonation and a finish that is only slightly dry with a touch of bitterness. An unusual take on the style that has enough in the way of interesting characteristics to make it worth trying but doesn't make it a great beer.

Photo of tpd975
3.6/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Another brew provided by Sea Bass. This one was recently retired.

A: Pours a nice dark black hue with a huge head. Great retention and thick chunk lacing.

S: Huge roasted malt aroma the is big on chocolate. Hints of dark fruits peek thru in the finish.

T: Bold chocolate aromas marry nicely to the toasted malt. Hints of yeast come thru along with a touch of metal to round things out. Nice.

M: Rather light in body for the style.

D: Not bad. Nice rare gem that was a please to enjoy.

Photo of ccrida
3.61/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into my large Gulden Draak tulip, Tournay Black is black with a fluffy tan head leaving sticky chunks of foamy lace.

Smell is bright fruity esters, with a pithy zest.l Over-ripe, there's some weight here...

Taste is robustly acridly charred. Fruity esters struggle mightily to break through. Caramel, some grape.

Mouthfeel is sharply crisp, dry.

Drinkability is decent, loads of flavor, but sharp elbows here.

Photo of chinchill
3.63/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

11.2 oz bottle dated best by May 2012 served in a snifter.
This dark mahogany beer has a durable tan head and leaves very good lacing. The near creamy texture overlays an unusual palate that seems both full and light, and has a pleasant, semi-dry finish. Although it is slightly light in color for a stout and has an unusual (yeasty, boozy and hoppy) aroma, in tasting this is indeed a Belgian stout: it has the flavor of a rather spicy and hoppy export stout with the added complexity imparted by Belgian yeast and in-bottle refermentation. The dark roasted malts do come to the fore for a moment now and again in the finish, then linger in the durable aftertaste.

Photo of RblWthACoz
3.64/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

With this review I may now call myself "Connoisseur".

Pours very dark brown with a thick creme head. Nose is boring and almost comes off as non-existent. Flavor is hearty with a slight tang to it. Caramel tones. Brown sugars. Feel has a fairly full carbonation to it and the liquid is fairly thicker. Overall a nice one to drink. A fair example of a Belgian stout.

Photo of beertunes
3.67/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Lot #07. Best by date of "End of 12". Poured into 10oz goblet. Poured a solid black color (just a very light touch of translucence at the bottom of the glass) and about 2/3 inch of light brown head that had low-moderate retention and very light lacing.

The aroma was pretty neutral, very light roast and just a light yeasty spice note. The beer was pretty similar on the tongue, although a bit better well defined. There was a fruity taste, some where in the cherry-grape range, and the roast note was there, but light.

The body was a bit thinner than I would have liked, and the brew wasn't sticky. The beer had a finish that was mostly dry, but did have a a touch of sweetness. Drinkability was very good, the beer went down quickly and easily, and I could have a couple in a sitting. Overall, a pretty nice brew, worth trying if you see it.

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Cazeau Tournay Noire from Brasserie De Cazeau
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