Cazeau Tournay Noire - Brasserie De Cazeau
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3.55/5 rDev -3.8%
I bought this 750ml bottle at DeCicco's (Brewster) for $9.99; better value per ounce than a small bottle. Label says "Black" and not "Noire", is from Lot #1, and the best-before notch indicates 04/2011. A tad late. Quaffed yesterday (28AUG11) on the upstairs porch while watching Irene whip the rain and leaves around.
Poured into a Delerium Tremens tulip, this stout was a dense, opaque, dark brown color. Head was light beige, creamy and frothy, sitting at about 1/2" and creating good lacing. Nose had some choco and roasty malts; nothing strong, but pleasant. Though quite smooth on the tongue, Black was rather thin for a stout - a big letdown.
Bitter choco flavors first hit the palate, with some roasty coffee action, and a bit of acridity. Maybe a little mocha and molasses, too, before transitioning to a mildly floral finish. Though the flavor is pleasant, this one really lacks complexity. I found nothing in the way of dark fruit, for example. One and done for this bier, especially at the current price... Prosit!!
3.55 rDev -4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
08-29-2011 15:38:09 | More by Bierman9
3.35/5 rDev -9.2%
Served ontap into a small chalice. Black with ruby highlights, small head that dies quickly. Aroma is light, just a little roast and belgian yeast. The flavor is light, small roasted malt and a sour twang too. Belgian yeast plays a role , adding a subtle fruityness that works well with the mild sour note. More roasted malt on the back end but somewhat thin, as is the body. Smooth and easy drinking, an interesting brew that I am glad I got to try.
08-24-2011 16:37:00 | More by Stinkypuss
2.63/5 rDev -28.7%
This opened with a huge hiss. A gentle pour soon revealed that this is carbonated to ridiculous levels, like a Duvel. It actually irks me a little when beers are like this—2/3 foam, uncontrollable, and 1/3 beer. Can’t even pour out the bottle. The head is huge and rocky and dense like kraeusen. It obviously holds well, and laces the glass with sticky, drying webs of foam. However, I no longer consider a big fluffy head to be an asset of a beer if it is accomplished by overcarbonation—it seems to me that the American craft brew scene is overly attached to the appearance of a big head, and tends to praise this even when in fact it is actually the side product of a defective mouthfeel caused by overly aggressive carbonation, of which Americans are not nearly critical enough. To me, the feel and texture of the beer is dramatically more important than its appearance. That said, this is pretty after the rockiness falls. But it was not pretty at full peak. Too sticky looking and unnatural.
On the nose I pick up some plum and fresh fig, and that harshness of overcarbonation and perhaps infection that plagued some of my homebrews. Some candi sugar for sure, but it smells a bit dull or muted. I suspect this bottle is old and I’m picking up some oxidation. Best before end of 2011. These best before dates are utterly useless. Who knows how long they consider this thing good. On another whiff, I get licorice tones. Some coffee is emerging as this warms. But that harsh overcarbonation smell is present throughout, and distracting. Also, some metallic character. Overall, a surprisingly muted aroma for a stout, and a Belgian beer.
Seems like sort of a clash between the dark fruity flavors of candi syrup and the acidic roastiness of a stout. Wish I knew what kind of roasted malts they used. Palate strikes me as licorice and currants or raisins upfront, followed by a wash of acidic roasted malts. On the whole, it is semi-dry, with a bitter finish. I actually think these flavors could work pretty well together without clashing so much if not for the ridiculously aggressive carbonation bite. It obscures the subtleties of this brew. Plus, the flavors just don’t pack a lot of… flavor. It seems a bit dull and watery for a stout of this strength.
Mouthfeel is harsh and sharp from overcarbonation. This carbonation level does not meld well with the roasted malts and acidity of the stout. Too sharp. This is a ridiculous level of carbonation for a stout. Makes me wonder if this was the intention, or, more likely, if I got an infected bottle.
Well, this one goes to show you that there is nothing magical about Belgium, and not every beer they turn out is amazing simply because it is brewed there. This one is unbalanced, sharp, and clashing, while simultaneously lackluster and dull. Bleh. Definitely not an inspiration towards Belgian Stout.
In a word: lackluster.
08-14-2011 02:47:12 | More by rustrose
4.03/5 rDev +9.2%
Body is jet black. Poured to a half inch head, the head is foamy and tan. Eventually dissipates into a cap and ring, leaving lots of sticky lacing on the glass.
Smells of dark roasted malt and dark fruit, cherries, chocolate, ash.
Tastes of dark malt and some charred ash. Dark fruits, raisins and cherries, chocolate, and coffee. Some sweetness from candi sugar. Dry, ashy finish. Sort of sweet and sour.
Body is medium and carbonation provides a slightly creamy mouthfeel.
Overall, a dark, charred malt beer that is like a belgian quadruple, but much darker and ashen. Can make a good night-capper.
04-25-2011 05:59:25 | More by Beerenauslese
3.48/5 rDev -5.7%
Aroma has a strong smoky tone with coffee and molasses components and hints of caramel and nuts. It pours a deep sable with a respectable, if not thick, light tan head. Flavor is smoky and has unsweet chocolate, roast coffee and molasses tones with a hint of caramel. Texture is fairly smooth, not as thick as most stouts, and just a little tingly.
04-24-2011 02:37:41 | More by Cyberkedi
3.75/5 rDev +1.6%
Draft at Macs Steel Creek.
Opaque black pour, minimal white head.
Aroma has malty chocolate mixed with some red fruit/banana.
Taste has much more roast. Dark chocolate and then some very faint banana. Fainter yet molasses and coffee to go along with cocoa in the finish.
Lighter mid bodied. Easy drinking, I've been enjoying the lower 7-8% stouts lately like this. Somewhere between a Belgian and Foreign stout really.
Not normally a fan of Belgian yeast strains in stouts, this is somewhat in agreement for me. The banana just doesn't work with the flavor/aroma profiles to me. Still not bad though.
04-11-2011 01:41:15 | More by Bung
3.38/5 rDev -8.4%
Labeled BLACK not Noire-probably for the US. Nice, jet black color with a sizeable tan/cocoa like head. Nice lacing on down the glass. Somewhat metallic, earthy aroma. Yeasty and sharp flavor right upfront. Some hop bite. Faint roasted quality. Mild cocoa notes as it warms. Earthy and bready-more Belgian than stout like if anything. Too thin for my liking. An ok example of a Belgian stout but I have had better for sure.
03-20-2011 19:23:35 | More by lackenhauser
3.73/5 rDev +1.1%
Lot #01! Best before end of 2011! Served from bottle into a Delirium Tremens snifter. Poured pitch black with a two finger beige head that subsided to one finger very slowly. Maintained excellent lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, cream, slight roasted malt, hints of caramel, and slight nuttiness. The flavor was of sweet malt, dark chocolate, cream, and a slight roastiness. It had a medium feel on the palate with mild carbonation. Overall this brew wasn't that bad, but it also wasn't that great. Neither the aroma nor flavor were very robust in this one which was quite disappointing. The elements that were there were quite nice, but it just lacked in intensity. Glad I got to try this one, but once is enough for me unless they can work on the robust aspect.
02-28-2011 13:08:44 | More by thagr81us
3.78/5 rDev +2.4%
I poured from a 11.2 ounce bottle into a SA perfect pint glass. Jet black pour with a fizzy little white head. The aroma is sweet, malts and candy sugar. It starts with sweet chocolate, candi sugar, and plums. It has a lingering sweet finish. The body is medium and it is well carbonated. IMO a BSDA, decent, maybe too sweet.
02-06-2011 00:31:53 | More by bonkers
3.28/5 rDev -11.1%
a: pours a dark-ruby near black brown with a substantial
s: chocolate, some spicy notes
t: slightly sweet, smooth chocolate and roasty notes with a hint of phenolic notes that lets you know that it's a belgian style stout. slightly malty and ends with a smooth and dry bitter note.
m: fairly thin with a low amount of carbonation
d: desceptive in it's smoothness, nothing says that it is at 7.6% ABV. it drinks more like a 4% dry stout. it's not bad, but I don't know if I'd buy it again.
01-23-2011 20:11:03 | More by clearlydiluted
4.03/5 rDev +9.2%
a very drinkable export of the Belgian vein. nice look of billowing head that has a good quality of lace. mild sediment cloud with a dark brown black color. nose of roasty malt and Belgian yeast. palate has zesty citrus beginning with a bit of plum and the savory mineral oyster. the finish comes out with lemongrassy. not particularly bitter finish yet stick so smokey qualities.
01-16-2011 02:36:34 | More by rtepiak
3.5/5 rDev -5.1%
Mammoth head, even a slow and steady pour fills two-thirds of the glass with tan airy microfoam, craters in the middle as it starts to slowly evaporate, the lacing is more like thin sheets and in turn stick well. Completely black liquid, thin sliver of orange at the bottom of the glass. Direct nose, almost tame, of dark chocolate, freshly ground coffee, malted milk balls, grape, cherry and plum fruit scents, has some hoppy kick but no distinguished individual scents. Medium-bodied, starts out creamy but dries up as it progresses, losing its softer texture. Carob, chocolate, coffee, butterscotch and a decent nuttiness set the table. Fresh grain brown bread, the kind of eat in chunks rather than slices. Slides you a slice or two of orange citrus. The carbonation has a tighter weave and more punch than expected given the delicacy of the head. Not much hops presence. It's credible but nothing special.
11-15-2010 00:00:28 | More by farrago
3.98/5 rDev +7.9%
11.2oz bottle received from mday in the Vets BIF. Thanks for the opportunity. Label shows a Best Before End Oct 2010.
Poured into a Harpoon tulip, formed a 1" tan head over the almost opaque dark brown brew. Pillowy head lasts and lasts, with coating chunky lacing. Aroma is chocolatey sweet, with alcohol wisps at the end.
Taste starts with creamy chocolate malt, a peek of dark fruit in the middle, and a clean, lightly bitter close. Mouthfeel is so smooth, but not as much depth of body as I hoped/expected. Drinkability is good. Nice brew, just not quite all I was hoping for.
11-02-2010 00:04:21 | More by ppoitras
3.7/5 rDev +0.3%
A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a dark brown color and a thick texture. There was a big, off white, foamy, long-lasting head. Excellent lacing.
S: A kind of weak aroma, but still had traces of roasted malt and coffee.
T: Like the smell, the taste was oddly thin, but there was a mild coffee element and some roasted malt. Not the most dynamic of flavors, but decent enough.
M: A generally well carbonated beer with a super dry finish. Medium-bodied.
D: In spite of its flaws, this is still a drinkable beer.
10-27-2010 12:08:22 | More by avalon07
3.58/5 rDev -3%
Well, to be sure I had two bottles o this. I completely drank both, with some otehr beverages including lemon water inbetween. What I got was an interesting stout. Black with a white foam head leaving some lace on the aides, at tehe dnd of the drinking were lots of lace bits. The first bottle more than the second I detected some sourness, served just below room temperatre each time at Beer Bistro. Some sweetness, yes, but th sourness dominated the first bottle and was more balanced but still there in the second bottle. A creaminess in th mouthfeel, a liuttle chocolate. drying.Not a swett tout as advertsied. the astringency is in the way.
08-15-2010 20:24:10 | More by Sammy
3.83/5 rDev +3.8%
I got this at Local Option do to a super strong recommendation from the bartender, a little suprising...A black pour, as expected, but a super nice light tan foamy head, good retention and lacing...The aroma and taste are both on the weak side, some malt on the front with a light coffee finish, but both just aren't bold enough, kind of like a typical belgian stout.
Nothing good or bad, just not worth drinking here.
08-06-2010 22:11:29 | More by jrallen34
3.53/5 rDev -4.3%
(Served in a snifter) best before end 2011
A- This beer has a black body with a bubbly tan head that slowly boils away over a few sips. There are a few microbubbles that glide to the surface up the sides of the glass.
S- The clean aroma has a faint roasted grain hint and some more fresh candy estery notes in the finish.
T- The soft roasted char note gives way to a soft tartness and finishes with light black coffee taste that grows as the beer opens up.
M- This beer has a medium-light mouthfeel with a slight watery texture and no alcohol heat noticed.
D- The very clean light flavor won't improve much with age and there was very little character to begin with.
07-27-2010 21:51:26 | More by rhoadsrage
4.88/5 rDev +32.2%
was described as a "belgian stout"--everything I love about both styles, all in one beer. Beautiful coloring and stout-like smell but with that spicy Belgian addition going on. Smooth going down.
An exceptional beer. Can't wait to have another go at this one. Overall more stout-like than belgian like. Very little carbonation too, always a major plus in my book.
03-22-2010 01:15:47 | More by Zekezilla
4/5 rDev +8.4%
330 mL bottle reads "Tournay Black" (I guess it's the english version of label). didn't realize when I bought it this week that it reads best before end of 1/2010. hopefully since it appears to be bottle conditioned that the beer is still holding up
A - poured into goblet an opaque black color. fluffy inch tall light brown head that disapates into a tinner covering that lasts until the end.
S - suprisingly weak aroma, but hints of coffee, chocolate
T - sweetness up front, with a bitterness inthe finish. very roasty - quite tasty
M - very thin body for a stout
D - for the style, very drinkable. goes down extremely easy
03-21-2010 04:10:51 | More by jmdrpi
4.4/5 rDev +19.2%
Mmmmm, very tasty! Poured with a large, foamy, frothy, textured light tan head and lots of good lace. Aroma is malty, yeasty, and spicey with a bit of cocoa and licorice. Flavor is great with the aroma qualities and a nice play between bitter, dry, and sweet, some roastiness. Body is very smooth and rounded and appropriate carbonation. Finish is like flavor and is super easy drinking. Guy could be greedy with this stuff.
02-23-2010 02:30:27 | More by drpimento
3.28/5 rDev -11.1%
A-Huge tan head. Black. Nice
S-Chocolate and cinnamon. Some mocha. Belgian yeast. Not too much going on
T-Some roast and a little ashtray (black patent?). Belgiany esters. Not overly bitter, could use more hop bitterness.
M-medium to dry. medium carbonation. No alcohol warmth.
D-Very drinkable. Hides its 7.6%abv very well. Could use more stout like qualities. More bitterness from either the roasted grains or hops. Either way not bad.
02-10-2010 02:02:08 | More by organicbrewer
3.93/5 rDev +6.5%
.5 750 mL in westmalle goblet in tournai. Reviewed 7/7/2009.
Ar: Rich earthy and smooth, dark chocolate, roast, coffee, mild burnt bread, dark roasted nuts, light alcohol
Ap: Black with hints of dark brown at the edges, thick coarse cream tan head, whipped, great retention
F: dark caramel/toffee, alcohol, roast, burnt bread, hints of tart fruit, coffee, starts caramel sweet, then burnt bread/roasted nut with coffee smooth end, ends creamy, light lingering roast and bitterness, dark plum (mild), molasses sweet notes
M: Warming alcohol in throat and stomach, creamy, medium carbonation, smooth
O: hot for 7.6%, very smooth, good nice dark complexity, light funk, probably alc influenced, the funkiness is strange but not objectionable
01-31-2010 04:39:24 | More by DaveJanssen
4.05/5 rDev +9.8%
Appearance: Pours a fudge brown color with ruby highlights and a modest head that descends to a ringlet, leaving a few strips of lace
Smell: Fruity, with dark berries, plum and pear as well as a dusting of chocolate
Taste: Dark fruit compote up front with subtle sweet and sour fruit elements building by mid-palate; hints of chocolate appear after the swallow but the finish is vinous and fruity
Mouthfeel: Light to medium body with low carbonation
Drinkability: Totally unexpected taste profile but a distinctive and enjoyable beer for sure
01-29-2010 01:04:40 | More by brentk56
4.22/5 rDev +14.4%
(Bottle into pint glass) Very surprising for a stout!! Poured like most stouts with a strong black color and finger and a half foamy light brown head. The nose was reminiscent of many other Belgians, with the sweetness prevailing. The malts were well toasted and there were hints of both molasses and chocolate present. Taking a taste had these same flavors come through along with a light hint of coffee that provided a very pleasant aftertaste. A great find!
01-03-2010 01:34:16 | More by crhensel
3.78/5 rDev +2.4%
11.2 oz bottle into a tulip glass celebrating the end of christmas. I had Tournay's saison so I picked this up.
Onyx black creating a midnight sky appearence. Noire doesen't look quite thick or black out of the bottle but it becomes a stout looker in the glass. A huge deep beige head reaches over a inch and condenses above the top of the glass. Great retention, great notches of strong lace str8 up and down. Towards the end some dark red patches on the outskirts.
The smell is in line with the style and does not stray. Big roast bursts with some light chocolate cake. While this is roasty I don't really get coffee. Some licorice root and some dark fruits that are not to ripe. Something grainy and earthy if you put your mind to it. Some red grapes from the vine.
From the nose I felt this would be a light stout and that it is. Nothing to big going on here. Your regular chocolate and roast with a small backdrop of dark fruits. Some odd tasting coffee does come into play minimally. Faint licorice root is a good addition. On the end some sweetness with candi sugar as well as a lingering roast. Not as sweet as expected for a Belgian stout.
The feel is a bit light for a stout and from the look of the liquid out of the bottle I could see why literally. A bigger body would have improved the score and a the small bitter unpleasent aftertaste is a bit undesirable. This almost comes off like a light porter. Medium bodied with high carbonation but not over the top.
Glad I tried this from Tourney, a good shot for a stout but misses the mark a bit. This is good tasting beer that perhaps could get tweaked in the future. The 7.5% shows itself minimally in feel and just a bit in taste, but I like it, adds to what's going on, which in this case is light for the style. In the end I kind of got this BSDA kind of thing mixed with a light stout.
12-26-2009 08:53:35 | More by BARFLYB
Cazeau Tournay Noire from Brasserie De Cazeau
83 out of 100 based on 85 ratings.