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Duke Of Winship - Middle Ages Brewing Co., Ltd.

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BA SCORE
87
very good

149 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 149
Reviews: 111
rAvg: 3.86
pDev: 13.47%


Brewed by:
Middle Ages Brewing Co., Ltd. visit their website
New York, United States

Style | ABV
English Porter |  6.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
"Scotch Porter"

(Beer added by: xlperro on 10-30-2001)
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timfelix

New York

4.44/5  rDev +15%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I have had this Porter on tap at the Middle Ages Brewery in Syracuse NY, and also bottled Duke.
This is a great dark beer. lots of flavor, looks good tastes great.
This beer also meets the " My wife likes it too" test. When both my wife and I both like a beer, it is special.
Enjoy this with a burger, by itself, with some chips or pretzels. Any way you do it, you will like it a lot.
Caramel and malt , a touch of hops and maybe just a hint of coffee.
It is on my list of "if this was the only beer there is, I am not unhappy".
The Middle Ages tasting room is quite special. About 8 beers on tap every day until 6pm. Tasting is no charge, and you can taste all you want. Not a bad marketing plan, because you will find one or more of their products you will want badly.

Serving type: on-tap

02-05-2014 03:02:17 | More by timfelix
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MadScientist

New York

3.83/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: A deep, dark copper basically a medium brown with ruby highlights and decent clarity. The light tan head is creamy, forms a small cap on the beer and has decent longevity.

S: A sweet malt aroma with some kettle carmalization. There is an earthy peaty aroma with a low fruitiness and a low spicy/earthy hop. About spot on smell for a Scottish Ale.

T: A light malty sweetness with a moderate hops bitterness. The there is a low diacetyl tag teaming with some caramel malt flavors. It has a low fruity flavor like prunes with a grainy, dry finish. The balance is about even between the sweet and bitter.

M: A creamy, medium bodied beer with moderate carbonation. There is a light slickness on the palate, from the diacetyl common to this style.

O: A very enjoyable Scottish ale, not as sweet as some other but with in the style guidelines.

Serving type: bottle

11-04-2012 23:23:11 | More by MadScientist
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TheBrewo

Michigan

3.35/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This brew was served from the cask at Tap and Mallet in Rochester, NY. It arrived in a nondescript chalice, glowing a deep, stouty brown coloring, with flecks of gold and red when held to light. It held a one finger head of light brown bubbles. This showed decent retention, leaving a ring of bubbles atop the liquid. Spots of lacing were seen clinging to the walls of the glass. Carbonation appeared low, and no sediment was noted. The aroma was boozy, with notes of butterscotch caramel, oaky smoothness, darker malts of coffee and chocolate, lactics, and generous Band-Aid phenols. Our first impression was that the flavoring was sour, woody, and boozy, with little else to note. As we sipped, grapey, winey sourness started things off. Big lactics, with astringent tannin dryness came too, with walnuts and fresh coffee malts. The middle peaked with more sourness of those malts, biting cherry mash, and light caramel sugars to cut. We finished on more warming notes of spicy alcohol, more caramel, continued lactics, toffee sugars, and more washed out, but still lightly charred, malts. The aftertaste breathed of that same fruity sourness, almost to the point of feeling like a dry Kriek, along with char, metals, mineral, more lactics, apple sourness, wood, and dried coconut. The body was medium to full, and the carbonation was low. Each sip was biting, and very drying, with little slurp, cream, froth, or smack to be had. That tannin dryness permeated every layer of the mouth. The abv was appropriate, and the beer drank more slowly.

Overall, what we enjoyed most about this brew was the nose. This held nice woodiness, booziness, and fruitiness, and was ultimately nicely inviting. We did, however, feel a bit skimped on the flavoring and sweetness that we have come to love the style for. Instead, the robust, lighter, and sweet malt profile was replaced by something more akin to a dry Irish stout. We found this beer to be decent, and a pleasant experience, but we were not overly satisfied or excited by much at all.

Serving type: cask

11-01-2012 22:35:12 | More by TheBrewo
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DavoleBomb

Ohio

3.5/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a pint glass.

3.5 A: Clear deep amber color. One and a half fingers of frothy tan head. Retention is about average and a short ring of lacing is left.

3.5 S: Roasty and grainy with a pleasant caramel sweetness. Perhaps a touch of chocolate. Simple, but quite enjoyable.

3.5 T: The label claims that this is a Scotch ale/porter hybrid and that's about right. While the nose smelled like a straight up porter, the taste has aspects of both. Roasty and grainy with a peaty earthiness. Good bit of caramel, but not a whole lot of sweetness. Decent enough flavors and plenty of power to make this a tasty brew.

3.5 M: Lighter medium body. Good moderate carbonation. Not very creamy, but there is some weight to this and it's almost as good.

3.5 D: Easy drinking, but nothing special.

Serving type: bottle

08-01-2012 04:38:33 | More by DavoleBomb
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Lawl3ss

Texas

3.98/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle into a tulip pint. Can't decipher stamp on bottle.

Look- Near opaque clear deep brown with a substantial toasted marshmallow-colored head. left an regal crown of dense lacing above a half inch of dense, craggy foam when it settled. When the larger bubbles pop, the crater left remains untouched for a surprisingly long time.

Smell- Spicy dates, brown sugar, wintergreen, and the signature Middle Ages yeast. Mildly solventy and nostril-clearing.

Taste- Peppery start, with a roasted malt flush in the middle and a resurgence of nondescript bitterness towards the finish. Strong espresso dominates, and a touch of smoked flavor towards the end is nice. Light buttered toast aftertaste often found in their beers takes on a slight burnt character. Alcohol has a moderate presence throughout. It's good, but rather no-frills.

Mouthfeel- Medium body, bright carbonation. Creamy and smooth throughout, decently warming, and faintly oily and acidic at the back. Drinks like chocolate milk.

Overall- It's good, but only makes me think of Middle Ages' delicious Scotch ale, Kilt Tilter, without delivering the full-flavored punch. It's also got a nice smoky presence that too many American Scottish beer stylings are lacking. A solid offering, and I'll pick it up when I'm pining for its big brother seasonal.

Serving type: bottle

01-15-2012 07:54:40 | More by Lawl3ss
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StonedTrippin

Colorado

4.4/5  rDev +14%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

by far the best middle ages beer, and if it wasnt for ommegang, id declare it the best beer made in new york state! pours a rich dark fudge color with w foamy white lacey head. smells smokey and sweet, bittersweet like pure cacao, and engligh malty like a euro brown ale almost. the flavor is just epic, all time! a blend of two styles scotch ale and porter, there is a lot of flavors going on. a robust smokey sweet chocolate malt thing up front, with a drawn out finish akin to a good glass of whiskey. almost tastes wood aged, and that version must be incredible, but the plain ole duke of winship is an amazing beer. medium to full body smooth as velvet. brewery fresh growler on thanksgiving made the day. seek this one out!

Serving type: growler

12-05-2011 02:29:42 | More by StonedTrippin
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CaptDavyJones

New York

4.28/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured a really dark brown color from a 12 bottle. Some light penetration along the edges.
One finger tan head that dissipates fairly quickly.
Aroma is a very nice and mellow blend of cocoa, chocolate, malts and some dark fruits and licorice.
This is a very tasty brew, the sweetness upfront , the malty backbone, the hints of bitterness in the finish are just perfect.
Almost a full-bodied ale which is very very smooth and very easy to drink. Middle Ages makes some of the best dark beers and I would highly recommend trying all of their dark beers including the Duke. They don't call it the duke for nothing, this is a damn good scotch ale/porter concoction. Highly recommended.

Serving type: bottle

09-03-2011 05:31:25 | More by CaptDavyJones
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Brenden

Ohio

4.22/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This one, my first ever offering from Middle Ages, is dark brown with a lighter brown hue that shines through in the light, picking up a vaguely red tint. A light brown head has good retention after settling to just under a finger and staying there the rest of the time, and lacing has some good cling to it.
The aroma is very malty with a big underlying sweetness and a dusty sort of caramel element. There's some earthiness from hops and some grassiness to balance and round it out.
The maltiness in the flavor forgoes the sweetness of the aroma and turns it around with a much more roasty taste including a touch of smoke and peat. Herbal flavors with a touch of citrus let me know this is nicely balanced. It also gets very toasty, mixing in flavor between the roast and bready aspects.
A light carbonation lends some crispness to a medium body. It's pretty rich, smooth and mellow with plenty of life. It manages to go smoother as it warms without losing the crispness.
This beer makes me wish I'd picked up more in NY. I'll definitely look into when I'm there next.

Serving type: bottle

07-10-2011 02:28:19 | More by Brenden
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BEERchitect

Kentucky

3.63/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Malty rich with toffee, malted milk, chocolate, and coffee; and with only the faintest nod toward earthy peat or subtle dense fruitiness.

Pouring a medium brown color with mohogany highlights, the beer forms a lightly barley-stained head that carries a density and persistence of well malted beers. Medium lace adorns the glass as the beer falls. Dark, but to reinforce the notion of malt balance.

Chocolate and coffee govern the nose, and with background aromas of toffee malts, malted milk, earthy hops (just shy of peat), and a mild piney grassy note to balance out the sweet scent.

Flavors follow suit, but with the coffee and chocolate flavors gaining ground on the peated malt character and hop balance. Dense with toast, brown sugar, sorghum, medium roasted coffees and bittersweet chocolate morsels. Only in finish does the malty rich flavors subside in allowance for the earthy English hops to attempt balance.

Rich and succulent throughout, the beer's early creaminess due to carbonation and malty richness, lingers well into finish with only note of slight estery fruits and light smoke (maybe kettle caramelization) to rise just before the aftertaste. Semi-dry in finish, the beer retains much of its malty influence til the very end.

With the balance tilted heavily toward the malty side, the complexity of malt development works well with the bulk of attention given to the more porter-like malt base. Any earthy/smokey/peaty complements are slight. The body retains its weight very deep, not relinquishing the sweetness as do many authentic Scottish ales. Still a very enjoyable beer; but maybe mor akin to a robust porter than a Scottish ale.

Serving type: on-tap

07-06-2011 16:00:19 | More by BEERchitect
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TheHopMonster

New York

3.78/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured this one into a pint glass. Deep red with slow rising bubbles indicating that its going to be a medium to high bodied beer. A fingers worth of tan head, dissipates rather quickly.

Smells of aggressive malts both smoked and sweet. Some grassy hops make their way into the aroma but its dominated through the intense presence of the malts.

Tastes exactly how it smells, smokey with molasses sweetness up front and a sticky almost chewy finish with the smokey/sweet still lingering.

Decent Scottish ale but nothing like the real thing.

Serving type: bottle

03-06-2011 21:54:31 | More by TheHopMonster
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brew3crew

Ohio

3/5  rDev -22.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

had during a middle ages tasting.

A-amber brown with white head that quickly disappates
S-strong malts upfront
T-tastes like it smells. some malt comes through
M-medium body that goes down smooth
D-nothing really stands out here

Nothing really makes this beer stand out average across the board.

Serving type: bottle

01-18-2011 00:41:47 | More by brew3crew
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Urbancaver

Ohio

3.4/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours very dark brown with a solid amount of off-white head. Smells a bit off. Some roasted smells but mostly just a odd smell. Tastes roasted and slightly fruity. A bit more bitter than i would like but overall not bad. Decent mouthfeel and well carbonated. Fairly drinkable

Serving type: bottle

01-17-2011 21:01:05 | More by Urbancaver
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lovindahops

New York

3.98/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

continuing with the family jewels brews... onto the hybrid the Duke

A- opaque as it gets for a brew and not much in the head department though. Some lacing on the brew but not too much. Nice mocha colors on top

S- all malt. Smoked molasses with some molasses and dark sugar. Inviting no doubt

T- the dark chocolate and charcoal flavors are very good up front. There is some sweet flavors that go along with the earthiness of the brew. Well done

M- a little too carbonated but the syrupy flavor is pretty good

D- Duke is pretty good. The multi flavored aspects of the brew makes it pretty drinkable

Serving type: bottle

12-19-2010 18:41:48 | More by lovindahops
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donius

New York

3.63/5  rDev -6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 4

Poured a massive tan frothy head (granted it was a bit warmer) but retained itself at a half finger for quite a while. Very dark, almost black, but not hazy.

Smells of well roasted malts, faintly earthy and a bit of iron.

Taste is nothing too exceptional, but very well-balanced. Alcohol is very well masked for a 6.5%

Way too much carbonation for my liking. Feels like a dead beer saturated with CO2

It's actually quite drinkable, very light for a scottish...I definitely wouldn't turn it down.

I would check it out if your interested in western New York beers, but don't go out of your way for it.

Serving type: bottle

11-04-2010 22:50:11 | More by donius
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jmdrpi

Pennsylvania

3.98/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

pours a real dark brown, almost black. minimal head, just a thin collar. the aroma is a very nice roasty chocolate aroma, a little coffee.

the label describes itself as a cross between a porter and a scotch ale. I'd say that is accurate. roasty malt flavors typical of a porter dominate.

medium to thick body, somewhat creamy, lower carbonation. decent beer, I'd definitely grab it again.

Serving type: bottle

10-13-2010 03:55:00 | More by jmdrpi
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riversider76

New York

3.58/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours the darkest of browns with a ruby hue in the light. One finger tan head, with good retention and nice laceing. Aroma is of roasted malts and coffee. Body is thick and carbonated. Taste is lighter than expected. Very porter like. Roasted malts and grains. Bit of dark chocolate and coffee. Not bad.

Serving type: bottle

09-14-2010 23:32:19 | More by riversider76
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zoso1967

Michigan

4.43/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Pours deep dark brown and is pretty much opaque except for some ruby around the edges. The head is a dark tan color and has great staying power, leaving sloppy lace on the glass.

The aroma is very nice with roasted barley and plenty of caramel. It also has a chalky yeasty flavor to it and notes of coffee, bitter cocoa and a hint of butterscotch. A whiff of smoke can also be detected from time to time.

The flavor is very porter like out of the gate with coffee and dark chocolate from the roasted barley being the main components. The more classic scotch ale characteristics also show thorough though, with some nice caramel and toffee notes and a bit of a Smokey character in the finish. This beer also has a great buttery dimension to it and I have to say, it is quite delicious.

The mouthfeel is super smooth and on the fuller side of medium. Carbonation is subdued, leading to a silky and wondrous finish. Caramel coffee lingers on my tongue after swallowing.

Super drinkable and enjoyable. This beer totally took me by surprise with its simple, yet rich flavors and amazing texture. Not a classic example by any means, but damn tasty.

Serving type: bottle

09-12-2010 23:14:43 | More by zoso1967
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sdj5

New York

4.08/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Very dark brown and red with no head. Smells sweet, like some sort of fruit and chocolate.

Tastes like sweet chocolate scotch which to me is delicious.

Mouthfeel is not notable, well carbonated and not watery.

Drinkable , although a bit heavy. I wouldn't down 5 of these. 1 or 2 is fine.

Serving type: bottle

08-26-2010 20:20:48 | More by sdj5
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BeerNinja007

New Hampshire

3.98/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Got this in a Middle Ages mix pack from Wegmans in Cicero NY. Poured this mostly-cold 12oz bottle into a chilled pint glass.

This dark brown brew allows nearly zero light through and carries a stable foamy greyish-tan head. The smell is semi-sweet, toasty, smoke, caramel, cherries. The taste isn't as astringent or harsh as the level of smoke in the nose would imply. In the mouth it is a bit smoky, but rounded and smooth. Semi-sweet charred caramel, woody/ earthy feeling, finishes with vanilla and a bit of roasted malt. Mouthfeel is smooth, finishes dry, a bit under-carbonated.

Serving type: bottle

08-23-2010 00:50:43 | More by BeerNinja007
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dogfishandi

New York

3.75/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle at fridge temp poured into a pint glass. pours pretty much opaque black but is actually a very dark brown. one finger of a light mocha colored head that fades to some nice looking patchy foam that stays for a while. only a little lace.

in the aroma you get some metallic chocolate roasted malts. a little coffee and a touch of peat and smoke. a little bit of dark fruit.

the taste is pretty close to what the label suggests, a mix between a scotch ale and a porter. kind of tastes like a smoked porter. bitter dark chocolate malts, roasted malt, metallic at times. just the right amount of smokiness. a hint of dark dried fruits. finishs with a crisp roasted malt, dark chocolate bitterness. maybe just a little watery at times as well.

carbonation is crisp, maybe a touch to crisp for the style. medium to light in body.

a really nice session beer, anytime of year in my opinion. a nicely made beer, and its definatly worth a try. middle ages makes some really good beers, i was pretty impressed. there variety 12 pack is definatly a good buy.

Serving type: bottle

08-20-2010 00:49:18 | More by dogfishandi
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CaptYellow

New York

4/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Dark red to the point of appearing brown.

S: Malty. Smells like a scotch.

T: Labelled: "The Duke bids you welcome with the smooth flavor of a scotch ale, capped with the regal flourish of a rich porter." And that's how it tastes. Upfront, it's a scotch followed by porter. Definitely sweet and fairly complex. Leaves a nice warm aftertaste without being too much.

M: Light and creamy.

D: High considering I didn't love the taste. Every beer from that brewery has been very good. I don't particularly care for scotch ales or porters but this is a nice twist. For less than $1.50 a bottle, it's worth the price to try it.

Serving type: bottle

06-13-2010 22:06:18 | More by CaptYellow
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Durge

Connecticut

3.4/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured cold into a pint glass this hybrid brew looks nearly black mahogany in color, can't see through it. The half-inch light tan colored head settles to a decent covering pretty quickly and a blanket of lacing shows well. The aroma says licorice-malt, deep with molasses and some charcoal. Pretty nice. The flavor brings a sweet brown sugar malt and yeasty brown bread. Maybe a grass hop dry finish in there. But I think the final analysis features a charcoal malt taste that comes with a thinnish bodied brew with some tinny highlights. Pretty effervescent and drinkable enough if you like the flavor. Seems a bit too thin and doesn't really capture the scotch ale qualities that the label claims. Okay but not one I'll revisit most likely.

Serving type: bottle

02-11-2010 05:32:59 | More by Durge
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matty

Pennsylvania

3.78/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark brown colored beer with a rapidly fading head.Aroma is chocolate and smoked malts.Taste is cocoa,coffee beans,and smoked malts.Smooth and drinkable with good flavor.This is something I can see buying again in the future and something I would recommend to my buddies.

Serving type: bottle

01-07-2010 18:41:14 | More by matty
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asabreed

New York

3.85/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle into a pint glass.

Appearance: Pretty dark, with a bit of light coming through to give it some amber color. Raindrop lacing on the top of the glass. Off-white head.

Smell: Slight wood and peat maybe. Some caramel and bitter chocolate and dark roasted malts with mild fruit esters.

Taste: Nice dark roasted malt flavors and discernible chocolate along with some bready caramel flavors. Lingering dark roasted finish.

Mouthfeel: A bit thinner than I'd expect at the forefront, though there's a good burst of prickly carbonation that saves it at the end from being too watery.

Drinkability: A good, drinkable version of the style, and more like a porter and darker than some. Good for the upcoming winter.

Serving type: bottle

11-29-2009 20:20:47 | More by asabreed
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tjd112

New Jersey

1.08/5  rDev -72%
look: 2.5 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

It has an OK appearance, it pours black with a good amount of head and lacing. However, there is this charcoal smell and taste that I just cannot get over, and the mouthfeel is dry. It's not a really balanced dryness, its just a charcoal and burnt fish style style dryness that I can't get over. This is a just plain undrinkable dark ale, and I've had some good dark ales.

Serving type: bottle

11-28-2009 21:18:05 | More by tjd112
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Duke Of Winship from Middle Ages Brewing Co., Ltd.
87 out of 100 based on 149 ratings.