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Freigeist Hoppeditz - Braustelle

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Reviews: 35
Hads: 113
rAvg: 3.88
pDev: 9.28%
Wants: 5
Gots: 5 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Altbier |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: crnipeter on 03-18-2011

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Photo of cujocon
2.59/5  rDev -33.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 2.5

04212015
Freigeist Hoppeditz Doppelsticke Alt
7.5% ABV
1Pint o.9oz brown glass bottle with crown $7.00 at Provisions Northampton MA
Appearance: very dark almost black color with brown head 1 finger to start settling to islands and rings of lacing
Smell: offputting funky maybe a little mushroomy
Flavor: creamy and full bodied, but tastes old and stale, the little bit of malt doesn't come through in the flavor
Overall: 2.5/5 I like how rich it is, but I can't get past the flavor...it's like a fruity beer that's been left out
for a number of days. I don't get any smokiness or fresh malt flavor. Not for me. (612 characters)

Photo of mactrail
2.98/5  rDev -23.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 2.5

Color is a ruby red amber with a persistent foam. Smell of vegetables soup. Tangy and quite carbonated in the mouth.

Flavor is butterscotch with dank herbs. I am not convinced that more hops is the answer to making a better Old Ale. Quite bitter aftertaste after sipping for awhile. It's something like a candy-apple artichoke. Mineral taste at the finish with something tarry.

An interesting experiment, but not so pleasant to drink. Overall it's sweet and bitter. From the 500 ml bottle bought at Bine and Vine in San Diego. (528 characters)

Photo of Ciocanelu
3.5/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Muddy brown color with beige head that goes away completely. Aroma seems kind of yeasty with some dark malts, like a belgian dark ale. Taste is on the bitter side but also a bit sour. Aftertaste is hoppy bitter. Medium body with light carbonation. Not really my style of beer. (276 characters)

Photo of Davepoolesque
3.5/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Has an english bitter quality to it. Good malty flavor. Not bad....................................................................................... (150 characters)

Photo of popery
3.53/5  rDev -9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours cloudy and auburn, almost maroon, in color. Nice foamy head, somewhere between off-white and tan. A thin but heavy blanket of fine bubbles.

The aroma is heavy on the malt, which is mostly nuttiness and caramel. However, there's also a bit more hops than expected, and frankly, it kinda hurts things for me. The hops are grassy, spicy and earthy, and they sorta cut through the rich maltiness a bit too much. It's an interesting combination, but I wish the malt came through more clearly because it seems interesting and tasty on its own. There's some toasty breadiness, a little stone fruitiness and a touch of cocoa powder in there. The hops are just a bit too assertive against that background.

The taste is moderately sweet and clean with a spicily hop bitter finish. Again, the hop flavor is just a bit drab against the richer and more complex malt. There's more earthy depth in the taste and less fruit. Some sugary rum notes.

Mouthfeel could be a bit fuller. It's just sorta ho hum. I don't mean to harp on the hop issue, but I feel like it cuts through what could have been a richer, rounder feel.

Pretty good beer and certainly an interesting take on the style. I prefer versions from Uerige and High Water, but it's still fun to find another doppelsticke. (1,274 characters)

Photo of Knapp85
3.58/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This beer poured out as an amber color, a creamy looking white head on top. Has a good retention and lacing. The smell of the beer has a surprising smoked aroma to it. The taste of the beer is also quite smokey. The malts add some depth to this beer with the mixture of bitter hops in there also. The mouthfeel of the beer is a little on the heavier side I thought. The carbonation is pretty good too. Overall this beer is pretty good if you enjoy smoked malts, I'm not a huge fan of them but it was still a pretty decent brew. (527 characters)

Photo of jlindros
3.7/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Pours an off-white creamy bubbly almost 1 finger head that fades pretty slowly with nice lacing, very dark mahogany murky brown color wtih some maroon light streaming through.

Nose brings plenty of sweet reddish candy malts, toasty candy malts, lots of toffee and nutty aromas, caramel and brown sugar galore, creamy candy like little maple creams, light syrupy sweet smell, hint of booze and touch phenols, a hint of a mocha aroma too, into big spicy chewy hops, earthy, mild nougat marshmallow like aroma too.

Taste brings more dark malts, a lot more like a big brown ale, strong ale, or porter than alt, big sweet candy flavors, reddish candy, toffee, little nutty, nice brown sugar and syrupy sugar like, little creamy malt, that brings a bit of a booze warmth and touch phenols. Then into light nougat like sweet syrupy earthy almost root based syrup, etc, and touch of mocha. Then into hops, slight earthy spicy hops, almost chewy, but not super bitter. Finish is fairly bitter, lingering earthy hop, little syrupy sweet sticky like, little candy and caramel toffee lingering.

Mouth is med to fuller bod, decent fluffy carb, just a bit of warming booze, quite syrupy.

Overall not bad but not what I'm used to for altbiers. Bit too much on the candy syrupy caramel toffee like flavors, decent hops at least, bit too strong ale like. (1,341 characters)

Photo of chinchill
3.75/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

500ml bottle with label indicating "Freigeist Hoppeditz: Doppelsticke Alt". 7.5% ABV

Slightly hazy, dark reddish-brown body is covered by a modest size but quite durable tan head.

Both hops and medium malts appear in the aroma, along with a hint of smoke.

Flavor: strong for a German beer or an alt, with 'extra' malt and hops in good balance. Interesting finish has a moment of sweetness then rapidly turns bitter, but only hits a nice mild bitterness that lingers on in the lightly smokey aftertaste.

Excellent medium, smooth and relatively lively body. (564 characters)

Photo of Brutaltruth
3.75/5  rDev -3.4%

Poured from a bottle this alt has a nice white head that has nice tight beaded lacing sitting
atop a reddish brown alt that is hazy and earthy looking. Nose of light charred wood, dark
roasted caramel malts, dark rye bread, and more smoke. Taste is moderately bitter with
rich malts of caramel and rye flavors taking a back seat to subtle smoke and charcoal like
flavors. Very effervescent mouthfeel makes this one very quaffable for being a rather complex
brew with a somewhat coating characteristic. Very nice indeed. Smoke and hops come
through on the aftertaste. Very interesting German outside of the norm. (622 characters)

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.8/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Pours a murky dark orange-brown with a foamy beige head that settles to a film on top of the beer. A foamy lattice of lace coats the glass on the drink down. Smell is of toasted malt, smoke, caramel, and fruit aromas. Taste is much the same with toast, earth, smoke, caramel, and citrus zest flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of hop and smoke bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp and medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer with an interesting mix of toast, smoke, and hop qualities that work slightly better in the smell in my opinion.

Serving type: bottle. (660 characters)

Photo of magictacosinus
3.8/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.5

Poured out of a 500ml bottle into a wine glass as part of the Freigeist Bierkultur tasting flight at Trappist Provisions. The bottle lists this, in fact, as a "doppelsticke alt," meaning a "double mistake altbier." What could be the mistake of making a "doppelalt," I wonder?

Pours a reddish plum color that I absolutely love in the doppelbock style, with definitely some key differences that make this closer to an altbier. Brownish tones, a good deal of carbonation, and a bone-white head that coats the top of the glass and leaves some decent lacing behind. Definitely on it's way to the viscous, thickened side of things, but I have a feeling this is more to the bottle conditioning at work here rather than the beer's strength. Eye candy for sure - looks juicy and delectable.

The aroma is a classic for the style - dark fruit, present spices, and hearty breadiness. Notes of plums, raisins, black cherries, and prunes start it off, only to follow clove, rosemary, and cinnamon spices afterwards. Slightly medicinal flavors come and go. The malt profile is very thick and hearty based on the aroma alone, resembling freshly baked pumpernickel bread, and finishes slightly nutty and leathery. Really good stuff - definitely a bit sweet, but as rich as these beers should be without being overwhelming.

The flavor came as a surprise to me, however. At first, there's notes of raisins, prunes, and cherries, only to be followed by an INTENSE black licorice flavor that coats the entire palate in a tannic, bittered manner. This is the equivalent of biting off a piece of black licorice and chewing it slowly. Did not expect that at all, but I must admit that it does save itself from becoming overly phenolic with the entry of leathery, nutty, and even tobacco-y flavors at the finish. Bready and chewy for sure, and while it's robust and hearty, it's definitely more on the medicinal side, especially with the entry of the excessive licorice and clove. It's drinkable, but only to an extent - this took me a good long while to finish.

I did not expect the licorice notes at all, but it's at least good to see a change of pace on the doppelbock and altbier style for once. For the sake of practicality, I'd probably not revisit this anytime soon, but it still stands as a well made and ambitious beer for what it is. A strong, monstrous doppelbock flavor-wise - one of the strongest that's readily available on the market! (2,428 characters)

Photo of sleazo
3.82/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A_Dark rich brown with a coffee colored smallish cap. Minimal lacing

S_Caramel is strong in the nose with a bit of freshly baked pumpernickel

T_Caramel and toffee hits first followed by some sweet dark red fruit. The finish is nicely dry and a bit spicy. As it warms notes of clove and cherry come through.

M_slightly sticky but not too much so. Tight carbonation spreads the liquid well.

O_Pretty tasty overall and a nice well done Alt (444 characters)

Photo of MRsojourner
3.88/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

poured from a 1 pint 9oz bottle that has a different picture than the one on BA into a mug

Very light on the aroma of light toasty malts

appearance is a very clear brown mahogany color with a nice off white head that leaves some nice lacing.

initial taste is of caramel and raisins with a slight bit of acidity and finishes fairly dry with a touch of smoke and some bitterness that lingers pleasantly in your mouth

overall this is a very good unique beer that stands tall amongst other alt beers that I've had. does its job as a hangover beer right now going down at 7.5%. would definitely purchase again (611 characters)

Photo of artoolemomo
3.88/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Appearance- Pours up an okay amount of head which has some retention. The head is a very light and creamy beige which hints at eggshell and malted milk balls while the body is a chestnut brown which shows huge tones of maroon and burgundy when held up to the light.

Nose- Starts off with mild and warm banana. Doesn't show much more than that from the glass but the bottle does show a very strong caramel presence, perhaps even a little bit of honey. Some grain and cereal in the background. Swirling shows a slight whiff of bubblegum.

Taste- Starts with a very malty front that blends brown bread, some toast, banana, and caramel. Some grain and cereal. The prominent malt moves quickly into woody bitterness that builds but does not seer and seems to round out a bit on the finish as a slight sweetness from the malt front returns in the form of a slight maple syrup back. Some pine and resin that blends in with the slightly bitter maple syrup finish. Some spice (think cinnamon and nutmeg, a touch of pepper) that works well with the small amount of heat also on the finish. Lots of cloves start to come out and add to the little bit of burn that this beer has. Some fruitiness in the background as well that ranges from citrus to raisins. Fairly complex with good presence and balance. Definitely an interesting take on the style and pushes it to a different level. Almost an imperial alt? It would say that it's just shy of being a really good beer and that ratings for this beer are pretty close to the mark.

Mouthfeel- A little more than medium bodied with light carbonation that also has some rich creaminess to the texture. Definitely anchors this as a solid beer.

Drinkability- Pretty easy going but the cloves and hops on the finish can be a little annoying. The alcohol does have presence but is not a distraction. 6 bucks a bottle is fine for a taste but I don't think I would get this again. Maybe if I saw it on tap.

Overall- Almost a really good beer. I think the slight burn from spices and woodiness makes this beer come up short but otherwise, it was very enjoyable. I would definitely give this a try. One of the more enjoyable Sticke alts I've had. (2,180 characters)

Photo of dbrauneis
3.9/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a murky dark amber to dark brown in color with moderate amounts of visible carbonation. The beer has a two finger tall frothy beige head that slowly reduces to a thin film covering the entire surface of the beer and a thick ring at the edges of the glass. Moderate to significant amounts of lacing are observed.

S: Moderate to strong aromas of malts - some caramel, some toasty, and some kind of nutty. There are lighter amounts of earthy and spicy hops.

T: Upfront there are moderate to strong flavors of caramel and toasted malts with some nuttiness. There is a light to moderate amount of spicy hop bitterness in the finish which fades somewhat quickly.

M: Slightly heavier than medium bodied with moderate amounts of carbonation. Smooth with a light amount of creaminess and some slickness in the finish.

O: This is a very enjoyable beer, and interesting twist on a traditional altbier but still very good. Easy to drink though a little too high ABV to be sessionable. (985 characters)

Photo of gueuzeonhigh
3.9/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours like I'd expect from an Alt or Brown Ale-- satisfying brown-red color with a tight knit head. Laced the glass here and there.

Produced a small nose of hops, toasted malt, hints of coffee.

Flavor was a robust potpourri of hops, toasted malt, as with the nose-- hints of coffee, dusted with caramel comingled with hazel nut flavor.

Finish was a mix of hops bitterness and a slight malty sweetness.

Mouthfeel has a certain zest of effervescence and I can't think of a good term-- maybe "light syrup".

Overall I think this is an enjoyable beer and a worthy example of an Altbier or Sticke.

If you run across this one- grab a bottle. If you like beers with a robust flavor stance you won't be disappointed. (715 characters)

Photo of metter98
3.91/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: The beer is hazy amber brown in color and has a light amount of visible carbonation. It poured into a stange with a short beige head that has very good retention properties and hardly died down and left some thick lacing running down the sides of the glass.
S: There are light aromas of smoke, toasted malts and earthy yeast in the nose.
T: Similar to the smell, the taste is rather malty for the style, but this also very well balanced with and elevated amount hops, the latter of which contributes spicy flavors and a light to moderate amount of bitterness that lingers through the finish. A light amount of smoke is present in the initial taste.
M: It feels medium-bodied and a little smooth on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is an enjoyable take on an altbier given its added amounts of malts and hops and the subtle amount of smoke in the aroma and taste. (895 characters)

Photo of smcolw
3.95/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Impressive large head that settles in a frothy way, leaving plenty of webby lace. The liquid is ruby, dark amber color. Hard to tell, but it appears to be quite clear.

Plenty of caramel with a touch of sweetness. In the background there's a bit of aluminum to the aroma as well.

Not as sweet as the smell suggests, but the hop has a real presence in the swallow. The malt provides some caramel and lighter brown ale notes. Simply put, it's complex, but drinkable. The body is richer than some alts but not noticeably so. The carbonation is quite muted, making the beer quite full. The aftertaste is a good blend of black pepper (hop) and brown bread toast (malt). (666 characters)

Photo of rudzud
3.95/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Recently stumbled across my notes from The Festival 2012. Lets do this!

A - Poured a light hazy deep amber hue with a big, fluffy one finger head that fades nicely. Quite good.

S - Nice caramel/toffee, subtle grains/malts. Just a touch of smoke too. Nice.

T - Taste is like the nose with very good caramel notes, nice toasted malts, faint smoke too. Touch on the dry side.

M - Mouthfeel is pretty good, nice carbonation, slightly smooth. Pretty solid

O - Overall, not a bad beer. A touch too smokey for my likes when it comes to this style. (545 characters)

Photo of seand
3.96/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A: Pours a dark translucent brown, with quite a bit of dense tan head. A healthy layer retains, leaving streaky lacing.

S: Malty caramel sweetness with a touch of smoke.

T: Caramel, a bit of booze, and hoppy notes to finish, again with a touch of smokiness.

M: On the full side of medium bodied, medium carbonation.

Overall, pretty good, and unique. I'd have it again. (372 characters)

Photo of Ozzylizard
3.96/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Undated bottle at 40 degrees into a stange; label is markedly different than what is shown on BA
Aroma very weak (some would say “delicate”) of malt and fruity hops
Head large (7 cm, aggressive pour), light tan, frothy, slowly diminishing to an irregular 2 – 12 mm frothy layer
Lacing fair – few medium islands and archipelagoes of tiny to medium bubbles
Body dark brown, clear
Flavor also “delicate”. Some malt comes through but no hops. No alcohol, no diacetyl.
Palate just into medium, watery, soft carbonation

This is billed as a “doppelsticke alt”. While it is tasty, I certainly wouldn’t consider it “double special” – it’s a pleasant, very drinkable alt which I will buy again.

Appearance 4.25, Aroma 3.75, Flavor 4, Palate 4, Overall 4 (775 characters)

Photo of DIM
3.99/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Subtly smoked extra hoppy version of a classic "special old ale"

a: Hazy brown color, thick with particulate; poured with a short lived fizzy head.

s: Nutty bread, dark fruit, lots of rich toffee, and a nicely subtle touch of smoke.

t: Rich prunes and toffee are blunted somewhat buy a strong, lightly charred roastiness. The finish is oddly dry with some lingering bitterness.

m: Gently carbonated and maybe a tad thin.

o: The hops at the end were a bit much but this grew on me more and more as I drank it. (513 characters)

Photo of DavoleBomb
4/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a perfect pint.

4.0 A: Moderately hazed dark amber brown color. Two and a half fingers of off-white, frothy/creamy head. Retention is good and plenty of lacing is left.

4.0 S: Deep caramel, light toffee, moderate toastiness, and grainy malts. Light smokiness to add some complexity. Not too dry, not too sweet. Just right in every way.

4.0 T: Light caramel and toffee. More toastiness with a grainy backbone. Light smoke. Quite tasty, but a little dry for my tastes. In any case, I'm quite enjoying myself as I drink this.

4.0 M: Lighter medium body. Good moderate carbonation. Super drinkable and smooth with a light creaminess.

4.0 D: I've been really impressed with this brewery and this beer is no different. Above average throughout. (756 characters)

Photo of Rifugium
4/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First had: on tap at Teresa's, Wayne, PA

Served in a stem glass, a dark brown liquid, seemingly opaque, but more translucent as it got to the bottom; a creamy tan head retained well and left nice stratified layers of doily lacing. Aroma was very toasty and roasty, nutshells and malts. More of the same in the taste, toasted nuts, roasted malts, light raisins, peppery yeast, generous herbal hops, and a subtle cocoa quality that came out more as the beer warmed; bready and bitter finish. Medium body, though maybe a bit heavier than your "typical" altbier. Very nice overall. (578 characters)

Photo of Bouleboubier
4.04/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

(had this at Devil's Den, Philly - tender poured about half into a tulip, I poured the rest)

A: leathery, dark copper liquid, quite cloudy (no indication of bottle re-fermentation)... little-to-no head on the initial pour, subsequent attentive refills revealed a tall, gummy-sticky pad of foam that take a notably good while to drop down... moderate lacing

S: like a sweetish-ginger snap without the spices... toasty-nutty, oatmeal-y... mild sort of golden raisin esters in the background... more than a hint of the rich maltiness to come... faint whisper of alcohol... dried grassy hop aromas

T: rich, toasty, biscuit/cookie-like malt flavors, firm thread of dry-crusted caramel... finishes on the cleaner side, pushed on by an attenuated raisin-fig fruitiness... moderate amount of grassy hop flavors peek out from behind the nutty malts, fair but not assertive bitterness

M: medium-bodied, at the least - leans toward full-bodied... bit of a viscous roll midway, though it fades softly in the finish... fairly weighty altogether, tempered only slightly by a delicate glow of booze

O: pretty solid Sticke... would certainly buy another bottle (1,149 characters)

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Freigeist Hoppeditz from Braustelle
87 out of 100 based on 35 ratings.