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Freigeist Hoppeditz - Braustelle

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BA SCORE
89
very good

78 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 78
Reviews: 29
rAvg: 3.98
pDev: 8.79%
Wants: 5
Gots: 1 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Braustelle visit their website
Germany

Style | ABV
Altbier |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: crnipeter on 03-18-2011)
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Photo of mactrail
2.98/5  rDev -25.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 2.5

Color is a ruby red amber with a persistent foam. Smell of vegetables soup. Tangy and quite carbonated in the mouth.

Flavor is butterscotch with dank herbs. I am not convinced that more hops is the answer to making a better Old Ale. Quite bitter aftertaste after sipping for awhile. It's something like a candy-apple artichoke. Mineral taste at the finish with something tarry.

An interesting experiment, but not so pleasant to drink. Overall it's sweet and bitter. From the 500 ml bottle bought at Bine and Vine in San Diego.

mactrail, Aug 05, 2013
Photo of TheBrk
3.25/5  rDev -18.3%

TheBrk, Sep 15, 2014
Photo of aztraz
3.25/5  rDev -18.3%

aztraz, May 22, 2014
Photo of atrocity
3.25/5  rDev -18.3%

atrocity, May 23, 2014
Photo of brotherloco
3.5/5  rDev -12.1%

brotherloco, Apr 05, 2013
Photo of braican
3.5/5  rDev -12.1%

braican, Sep 08, 2014
Photo of WhiteLight68
3.5/5  rDev -12.1%

WhiteLight68, Nov 22, 2013
Photo of t0rin0
3.5/5  rDev -12.1%

t0rin0, Mar 29, 2013
Photo of Crumpetsnbeer
3.5/5  rDev -12.1%

Crumpetsnbeer, Jul 22, 2014
Photo of popery
3.53/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours cloudy and auburn, almost maroon, in color. Nice foamy head, somewhere between off-white and tan. A thin but heavy blanket of fine bubbles.

The aroma is heavy on the malt, which is mostly nuttiness and caramel. However, there's also a bit more hops than expected, and frankly, it kinda hurts things for me. The hops are grassy, spicy and earthy, and they sorta cut through the rich maltiness a bit too much. It's an interesting combination, but I wish the malt came through more clearly because it seems interesting and tasty on its own. There's some toasty breadiness, a little stone fruitiness and a touch of cocoa powder in there. The hops are just a bit too assertive against that background.

The taste is moderately sweet and clean with a spicily hop bitter finish. Again, the hop flavor is just a bit drab against the richer and more complex malt. There's more earthy depth in the taste and less fruit. Some sugary rum notes.

Mouthfeel could be a bit fuller. It's just sorta ho hum. I don't mean to harp on the hop issue, but I feel like it cuts through what could have been a richer, rounder feel.

Pretty good beer and certainly an interesting take on the style. I prefer versions from Uerige and High Water, but it's still fun to find another doppelsticke.

popery, Sep 02, 2012
Photo of Knapp85
3.58/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This beer poured out as an amber color, a creamy looking white head on top. Has a good retention and lacing. The smell of the beer has a surprising smoked aroma to it. The taste of the beer is also quite smokey. The malts add some depth to this beer with the mixture of bitter hops in there also. The mouthfeel of the beer is a little on the heavier side I thought. The carbonation is pretty good too. Overall this beer is pretty good if you enjoy smoked malts, I'm not a huge fan of them but it was still a pretty decent brew.

Knapp85, Aug 18, 2012
Photo of jlindros
3.7/5  rDev -7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Pours an off-white creamy bubbly almost 1 finger head that fades pretty slowly with nice lacing, very dark mahogany murky brown color wtih some maroon light streaming through.

Nose brings plenty of sweet reddish candy malts, toasty candy malts, lots of toffee and nutty aromas, caramel and brown sugar galore, creamy candy like little maple creams, light syrupy sweet smell, hint of booze and touch phenols, a hint of a mocha aroma too, into big spicy chewy hops, earthy, mild nougat marshmallow like aroma too.

Taste brings more dark malts, a lot more like a big brown ale, strong ale, or porter than alt, big sweet candy flavors, reddish candy, toffee, little nutty, nice brown sugar and syrupy sugar like, little creamy malt, that brings a bit of a booze warmth and touch phenols. Then into light nougat like sweet syrupy earthy almost root based syrup, etc, and touch of mocha. Then into hops, slight earthy spicy hops, almost chewy, but not super bitter. Finish is fairly bitter, lingering earthy hop, little syrupy sweet sticky like, little candy and caramel toffee lingering.

Mouth is med to fuller bod, decent fluffy carb, just a bit of warming booze, quite syrupy.

Overall not bad but not what I'm used to for altbiers. Bit too much on the candy syrupy caramel toffee like flavors, decent hops at least, bit too strong ale like.

jlindros, Sep 19, 2013
Photo of Brutaltruth
3.75/5  rDev -5.8%

Poured from a bottle this alt has a nice white head that has nice tight beaded lacing sitting
atop a reddish brown alt that is hazy and earthy looking. Nose of light charred wood, dark
roasted caramel malts, dark rye bread, and more smoke. Taste is moderately bitter with
rich malts of caramel and rye flavors taking a back seat to subtle smoke and charcoal like
flavors. Very effervescent mouthfeel makes this one very quaffable for being a rather complex
brew with a somewhat coating characteristic. Very nice indeed. Smoke and hops come
through on the aftertaste. Very interesting German outside of the norm.

Brutaltruth, Aug 24, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev -5.8%

ilikebeer03, May 27, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -5.8%

SFC21, Jul 08, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -5.8%

zekeman17, Aug 06, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev -5.8%

DonFrap, Jul 18, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -5.8%

sneaks2210, Oct 05, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -5.8%

DRBiser, Jun 13, 2014
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3.75/5  rDev -5.8%

BeerForMuscle, Oct 01, 2013
Photo of GrindFatherBob
3.75/5  rDev -5.8%

GrindFatherBob, Jul 02, 2013
Photo of magictacosinus
3.76/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.5

Poured out of a 500ml bottle into a wine glass as part of the Freigeist Bierkultur tasting flight at Trappist Provisions. The bottle lists this, in fact, as a "doppelsticke alt," meaning a "double mistake altbier." What could be the mistake of making a "doppelalt," I wonder?

Pours a reddish plum color that I absolutely love in the doppelbock style, with definitely some key differences that make this closer to an altbier. Brownish tones, a good deal of carbonation, and a bone-white head that coats the top of the glass and leaves some decent lacing behind. Definitely on it's way to the viscous, thickened side of things, but I have a feeling this is more to the bottle conditioning at work here rather than the beer's strength. Eye candy for sure - looks juicy and delectable.

The aroma is a classic for the style - dark fruit, present spices, and hearty breadiness. Notes of plums, raisins, black cherries, and prunes start it off, only to follow clove, rosemary, and cinnamon spices afterwards. Slightly medicinal flavors come and go. The malt profile is very thick and hearty based on the aroma alone, resembling freshly baked pumpernickel bread, and finishes slightly nutty and leathery. Really good stuff - definitely a bit sweet, but as rich as these beers should be without being overwhelming.

The flavor came as a surprise to me, however. At first, there's notes of raisins, prunes, and cherries, only to be followed by an INTENSE black licorice flavor that coats the entire palate in a tannic, bittered manner. This is the equivalent of biting off a piece of black licorice and chewing it slowly. Did not expect that at all, but I must admit that it does save itself from becoming overly phenolic with the entry of leathery, nutty, and even tobacco-y flavors at the finish. Bready and chewy for sure, and while it's robust and hearty, it's definitely more on the medicinal side, especially with the entry of the excessive licorice and clove. It's drinkable, but only to an extent - this took me a good long while to finish.

I did not expect the licorice notes at all, but it's at least good to see a change of pace on the doppelbock and altbier style for once. For the sake of practicality, I'd probably not revisit this anytime soon, but it still stands as a well made and ambitious beer for what it is. A strong, monstrous doppelbock flavor-wise - one of the strongest that's readily available on the market!

magictacosinus, Oct 10, 2013
Photo of sleazo
3.84/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A_Dark rich brown with a coffee colored smallish cap. Minimal lacing

S_Caramel is strong in the nose with a bit of freshly baked pumpernickel

T_Caramel and toffee hits first followed by some sweet dark red fruit. The finish is nicely dry and a bit spicy. As it warms notes of clove and cherry come through.

M_slightly sticky but not too much so. Tight carbonation spreads the liquid well.

O_Pretty tasty overall and a nice well done Alt

sleazo, Sep 29, 2013
Photo of artoolemomo
3.89/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Appearance- Pours up an okay amount of head which has some retention. The head is a very light and creamy beige which hints at eggshell and malted milk balls while the body is a chestnut brown which shows huge tones of maroon and burgundy when held up to the light.

Nose- Starts off with mild and warm banana. Doesn't show much more than that from the glass but the bottle does show a very strong caramel presence, perhaps even a little bit of honey. Some grain and cereal in the background. Swirling shows a slight whiff of bubblegum.

Taste- Starts with a very malty front that blends brown bread, some toast, banana, and caramel. Some grain and cereal. The prominent malt moves quickly into woody bitterness that builds but does not seer and seems to round out a bit on the finish as a slight sweetness from the malt front returns in the form of a slight maple syrup back. Some pine and resin that blends in with the slightly bitter maple syrup finish. Some spice (think cinnamon and nutmeg, a touch of pepper) that works well with the small amount of heat also on the finish. Lots of cloves start to come out and add to the little bit of burn that this beer has. Some fruitiness in the background as well that ranges from citrus to raisins. Fairly complex with good presence and balance. Definitely an interesting take on the style and pushes it to a different level. Almost an imperial alt? It would say that it's just shy of being a really good beer and that ratings for this beer are pretty close to the mark.

Mouthfeel- A little more than medium bodied with light carbonation that also has some rich creaminess to the texture. Definitely anchors this as a solid beer.

Drinkability- Pretty easy going but the cloves and hops on the finish can be a little annoying. The alcohol does have presence but is not a distraction. 6 bucks a bottle is fine for a taste but I don't think I would get this again. Maybe if I saw it on tap.

Overall- Almost a really good beer. I think the slight burn from spices and woodiness makes this beer come up short but otherwise, it was very enjoyable. I would definitely give this a try. One of the more enjoyable Sticke alts I've had.

artoolemomo, Feb 01, 2014
Photo of dbrauneis
3.9/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a murky dark amber to dark brown in color with moderate amounts of visible carbonation. The beer has a two finger tall frothy beige head that slowly reduces to a thin film covering the entire surface of the beer and a thick ring at the edges of the glass. Moderate to significant amounts of lacing are observed.

S: Moderate to strong aromas of malts - some caramel, some toasty, and some kind of nutty. There are lighter amounts of earthy and spicy hops.

T: Upfront there are moderate to strong flavors of caramel and toasted malts with some nuttiness. There is a light to moderate amount of spicy hop bitterness in the finish which fades somewhat quickly.

M: Slightly heavier than medium bodied with moderate amounts of carbonation. Smooth with a light amount of creaminess and some slickness in the finish.

O: This is a very enjoyable beer, and interesting twist on a traditional altbier but still very good. Easy to drink though a little too high ABV to be sessionable.

dbrauneis, Oct 30, 2012
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Freigeist Hoppeditz from Braustelle
89 out of 100 based on 78 ratings.