Freigeist Hoppeditz - Braustelle

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very good

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Ratings: 112
Reviews: 36
rAvg: 3.91
pDev: 9.97%
Wants: 5
Gots: 4 | FT: 0
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Style | ABV
Altbier |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: crnipeter on 03-18-2011

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Photo of Ozzylizard
3.96/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Undated bottle at 40 degrees into a stange; label is markedly different than what is shown on BA
Aroma very weak (some would say “delicate”) of malt and fruity hops
Head large (7 cm, aggressive pour), light tan, frothy, slowly diminishing to an irregular 2 – 12 mm frothy layer
Lacing fair – few medium islands and archipelagoes of tiny to medium bubbles
Body dark brown, clear
Flavor also “delicate”. Some malt comes through but no hops. No alcohol, no diacetyl.
Palate just into medium, watery, soft carbonation

This is billed as a “doppelsticke alt”. While it is tasty, I certainly wouldn’t consider it “double special” – it’s a pleasant, very drinkable alt which I will buy again.

Appearance 4.25, Aroma 3.75, Flavor 4, Palate 4, Overall 4

Photo of jzlyo
3.7/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Aroma is malts, light smoke and a hint of sweetness. The flavor is mild/medium smoked malts, fruit and a tangy/tart finish.

Photo of cujocon
2.59/5  rDev -33.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 2.5

04212015
Freigeist Hoppeditz Doppelsticke Alt
7.5% ABV
1Pint o.9oz brown glass bottle with crown $7.00 at Provisions Northampton MA
Appearance: very dark almost black color with brown head 1 finger to start settling to islands and rings of lacing
Smell: offputting funky maybe a little mushroomy
Flavor: creamy and full bodied, but tastes old and stale, the little bit of malt doesn't come through in the flavor
Overall: 2.5/5 I like how rich it is, but I can't get past the flavor...it's like a fruity beer that's been left out
for a number of days. I don't get any smokiness or fresh malt flavor. Not for me.

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.8/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Pours a murky dark orange-brown with a foamy beige head that settles to a film on top of the beer. A foamy lattice of lace coats the glass on the drink down. Smell is of toasted malt, smoke, caramel, and fruit aromas. Taste is much the same with toast, earth, smoke, caramel, and citrus zest flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of hop and smoke bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp and medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer with an interesting mix of toast, smoke, and hop qualities that work slightly better in the smell in my opinion.

Serving type: bottle.

Photo of kscaldef
2.5/5  rDev -36.1%

Seems too aggressively hoppy for this beer.

Photo of Davepoolesque
3.5/5  rDev -10.5%

Has an english bitter quality to it. Good malty flavor. Not bad.

Photo of mikeyv35
4.3/5  rDev +10%

Date: 08/30/14
Vintage: 2012
Type: 500ml. Bottle
Glass: East End Tulip

* Finally found this long-time want at a bottle shop in Waterbury, VT while on vacation w/ the family. Sampled next to Long Trail Double Bag which made me appreciate how perfectly refined this true German Doppelsticke Alt was even more.

Pours a crystal clear brown mahogany in color w/ ruby highlights w/ a 1/4 finger off white head that quickly leaves medium lacing on the glass and dissipates to a ring. Aromas of deep raisin, caramel, plum, and toffee over top bread, basement must, and German yeast. The taste was of the aroma which translated to rich raisin, plum, caramel and toffee up front leading into a touch of tobacco and mustiness, and closed w/ herbal hop bite and some smoke. Medium bodied and lush, but finished dry and clean like it should. You could literally drink this all day as the alcohol was not even detectable and like a true Alt it does not sit heavy. Might I say this is sessionable despite the higher end ABV.

Well..., the Nazi Panzer tank just rolled over Double Bag like it was a modest pothole! Hail to the authentic German Doppelsticke! This is the second best Doppelsticke Alt I have ever had next to only the mighty Uerige Doppelsticke, the brewery and beer that created the style. Uerige Doppelsticke and this beer are the reason I practice brewing Alts, if I could ever brew one that tasted all the lines of these I would consider myself blessed.

Photo of chinchill
3.75/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

500ml bottle with label indicating "Freigeist Hoppeditz: Doppelsticke Alt". 7.5% ABV

Slightly hazy, dark reddish-brown body is covered by a modest size but quite durable tan head.

Both hops and medium malts appear in the aroma, along with a hint of smoke.

Flavor: strong for a German beer or an alt, with 'extra' malt and hops in good balance. Interesting finish has a moment of sweetness then rapidly turns bitter, but only hits a nice mild bitterness that lingers on in the lightly smokey aftertaste.

Excellent medium, smooth and relatively lively body.

Photo of Brutaltruth
3.75/5  rDev -4.1%

Poured from a bottle this alt has a nice white head that has nice tight beaded lacing sitting
atop a reddish brown alt that is hazy and earthy looking. Nose of light charred wood, dark
roasted caramel malts, dark rye bread, and more smoke. Taste is moderately bitter with
rich malts of caramel and rye flavors taking a back seat to subtle smoke and charcoal like
flavors. Very effervescent mouthfeel makes this one very quaffable for being a rather complex
brew with a somewhat coating characteristic. Very nice indeed. Smoke and hops come
through on the aftertaste. Very interesting German outside of the norm.

Photo of smcolw
3.95/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Impressive large head that settles in a frothy way, leaving plenty of webby lace. The liquid is ruby, dark amber color. Hard to tell, but it appears to be quite clear.

Plenty of caramel with a touch of sweetness. In the background there's a bit of aluminum to the aroma as well.

Not as sweet as the smell suggests, but the hop has a real presence in the swallow. The malt provides some caramel and lighter brown ale notes. Simply put, it's complex, but drinkable. The body is richer than some alts but not noticeably so. The carbonation is quite muted, making the beer quite full. The aftertaste is a good blend of black pepper (hop) and brown bread toast (malt).

Photo of DIM
3.99/5  rDev +2%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Subtly smoked extra hoppy version of a classic "special old ale"

a: Hazy brown color, thick with particulate; poured with a short lived fizzy head.

s: Nutty bread, dark fruit, lots of rich toffee, and a nicely subtle touch of smoke.

t: Rich prunes and toffee are blunted somewhat buy a strong, lightly charred roastiness. The finish is oddly dry with some lingering bitterness.

m: Gently carbonated and maybe a tad thin.

o: The hops at the end were a bit much but this grew on me more and more as I drank it.

Photo of gueuzeonhigh
3.9/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours like I'd expect from an Alt or Brown Ale-- satisfying brown-red color with a tight knit head. Laced the glass here and there.

Produced a small nose of hops, toasted malt, hints of coffee.

Flavor was a robust potpourri of hops, toasted malt, as with the nose-- hints of coffee, dusted with caramel comingled with hazel nut flavor.

Finish was a mix of hops bitterness and a slight malty sweetness.

Mouthfeel has a certain zest of effervescence and I can't think of a good term-- maybe "light syrup".

Overall I think this is an enjoyable beer and a worthy example of an Altbier or Sticke.

If you run across this one- grab a bottle. If you like beers with a robust flavor stance you won't be disappointed.

Photo of beergoot
4.06/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

The pour produced a brownish red body with a thin yet persistent off-white, creamy head; lacing along the glass. Nutty aroma with hints of musk melon and toasted grains; a smidgen of toffee. Toffee and charred brown sugar flavors; hop bitterness showing up midway through the taste and lingering through the finish. Medium bodied; somewhat bubbly on the tongue.

A nice malt-forward beer featuring a toasted, slightly burnt sugar flavor character. A tad weak in the mouthfeel, a little too fizzy, but nothing major in the grand scheme of things. Well-rounded and relatively light, so knocking back a bottle or two would make for a nice session episode. A very nice German ale.

Photo of Bouleboubier
4.04/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

(had this at Devil's Den, Philly - tender poured about half into a tulip, I poured the rest)

A: leathery, dark copper liquid, quite cloudy (no indication of bottle re-fermentation)... little-to-no head on the initial pour, subsequent attentive refills revealed a tall, gummy-sticky pad of foam that take a notably good while to drop down... moderate lacing

S: like a sweetish-ginger snap without the spices... toasty-nutty, oatmeal-y... mild sort of golden raisin esters in the background... more than a hint of the rich maltiness to come... faint whisper of alcohol... dried grassy hop aromas

T: rich, toasty, biscuit/cookie-like malt flavors, firm thread of dry-crusted caramel... finishes on the cleaner side, pushed on by an attenuated raisin-fig fruitiness... moderate amount of grassy hop flavors peek out from behind the nutty malts, fair but not assertive bitterness

M: medium-bodied, at the least - leans toward full-bodied... bit of a viscous roll midway, though it fades softly in the finish... fairly weighty altogether, tempered only slightly by a delicate glow of booze

O: pretty solid Sticke... would certainly buy another bottle

Photo of Vonstein15
4.22/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Found this 375ml bottle of Doppelsticke Alt yesterday.poured into a tulip glass with a 2 finger beige head with cleared away quickly to a thin layer of beige foam -slight lacing.love the malt smell and I picked some toasted caramel.Mouthfeel is full and refreshing.Will search more of this beautiful style.

Photo of artoolemomo
3.88/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Appearance- Pours up an okay amount of head which has some retention. The head is a very light and creamy beige which hints at eggshell and malted milk balls while the body is a chestnut brown which shows huge tones of maroon and burgundy when held up to the light.

Nose- Starts off with mild and warm banana. Doesn't show much more than that from the glass but the bottle does show a very strong caramel presence, perhaps even a little bit of honey. Some grain and cereal in the background. Swirling shows a slight whiff of bubblegum.

Taste- Starts with a very malty front that blends brown bread, some toast, banana, and caramel. Some grain and cereal. The prominent malt moves quickly into woody bitterness that builds but does not seer and seems to round out a bit on the finish as a slight sweetness from the malt front returns in the form of a slight maple syrup back. Some pine and resin that blends in with the slightly bitter maple syrup finish. Some spice (think cinnamon and nutmeg, a touch of pepper) that works well with the small amount of heat also on the finish. Lots of cloves start to come out and add to the little bit of burn that this beer has. Some fruitiness in the background as well that ranges from citrus to raisins. Fairly complex with good presence and balance. Definitely an interesting take on the style and pushes it to a different level. Almost an imperial alt? It would say that it's just shy of being a really good beer and that ratings for this beer are pretty close to the mark.

Mouthfeel- A little more than medium bodied with light carbonation that also has some rich creaminess to the texture. Definitely anchors this as a solid beer.

Drinkability- Pretty easy going but the cloves and hops on the finish can be a little annoying. The alcohol does have presence but is not a distraction. 6 bucks a bottle is fine for a taste but I don't think I would get this again. Maybe if I saw it on tap.

Overall- Almost a really good beer. I think the slight burn from spices and woodiness makes this beer come up short but otherwise, it was very enjoyable. I would definitely give this a try. One of the more enjoyable Sticke alts I've had.

Photo of Etan
4.09/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Always like trying a new Freigeist beer.

A: Pours a thick-looking dark brown with a nice light tan head.

S: Smells of honey, oatmeal, slightly floral, sweet dark bread.

T: Taste brings mild earthy bitterness, honeycake, caramelized grain, a bit leafy, molasses, leather, raisins.

M: This beer is pretty damn thick-feeling, with low carbonation. Very chewy.

O: This beer is hearty, to say the least. I like it.

Photo of magictacosinus
3.8/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.5

Poured out of a 500ml bottle into a wine glass as part of the Freigeist Bierkultur tasting flight at Trappist Provisions. The bottle lists this, in fact, as a "doppelsticke alt," meaning a "double mistake altbier." What could be the mistake of making a "doppelalt," I wonder?

Pours a reddish plum color that I absolutely love in the doppelbock style, with definitely some key differences that make this closer to an altbier. Brownish tones, a good deal of carbonation, and a bone-white head that coats the top of the glass and leaves some decent lacing behind. Definitely on it's way to the viscous, thickened side of things, but I have a feeling this is more to the bottle conditioning at work here rather than the beer's strength. Eye candy for sure - looks juicy and delectable.

The aroma is a classic for the style - dark fruit, present spices, and hearty breadiness. Notes of plums, raisins, black cherries, and prunes start it off, only to follow clove, rosemary, and cinnamon spices afterwards. Slightly medicinal flavors come and go. The malt profile is very thick and hearty based on the aroma alone, resembling freshly baked pumpernickel bread, and finishes slightly nutty and leathery. Really good stuff - definitely a bit sweet, but as rich as these beers should be without being overwhelming.

The flavor came as a surprise to me, however. At first, there's notes of raisins, prunes, and cherries, only to be followed by an INTENSE black licorice flavor that coats the entire palate in a tannic, bittered manner. This is the equivalent of biting off a piece of black licorice and chewing it slowly. Did not expect that at all, but I must admit that it does save itself from becoming overly phenolic with the entry of leathery, nutty, and even tobacco-y flavors at the finish. Bready and chewy for sure, and while it's robust and hearty, it's definitely more on the medicinal side, especially with the entry of the excessive licorice and clove. It's drinkable, but only to an extent - this took me a good long while to finish.

I did not expect the licorice notes at all, but it's at least good to see a change of pace on the doppelbock and altbier style for once. For the sake of practicality, I'd probably not revisit this anytime soon, but it still stands as a well made and ambitious beer for what it is. A strong, monstrous doppelbock flavor-wise - one of the strongest that's readily available on the market!

Photo of sleazo
3.82/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A_Dark rich brown with a coffee colored smallish cap. Minimal lacing

S_Caramel is strong in the nose with a bit of freshly baked pumpernickel

T_Caramel and toffee hits first followed by some sweet dark red fruit. The finish is nicely dry and a bit spicy. As it warms notes of clove and cherry come through.

M_slightly sticky but not too much so. Tight carbonation spreads the liquid well.

O_Pretty tasty overall and a nice well done Alt

Photo of jlindros
3.7/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Pours an off-white creamy bubbly almost 1 finger head that fades pretty slowly with nice lacing, very dark mahogany murky brown color wtih some maroon light streaming through.

Nose brings plenty of sweet reddish candy malts, toasty candy malts, lots of toffee and nutty aromas, caramel and brown sugar galore, creamy candy like little maple creams, light syrupy sweet smell, hint of booze and touch phenols, a hint of a mocha aroma too, into big spicy chewy hops, earthy, mild nougat marshmallow like aroma too.

Taste brings more dark malts, a lot more like a big brown ale, strong ale, or porter than alt, big sweet candy flavors, reddish candy, toffee, little nutty, nice brown sugar and syrupy sugar like, little creamy malt, that brings a bit of a booze warmth and touch phenols. Then into light nougat like sweet syrupy earthy almost root based syrup, etc, and touch of mocha. Then into hops, slight earthy spicy hops, almost chewy, but not super bitter. Finish is fairly bitter, lingering earthy hop, little syrupy sweet sticky like, little candy and caramel toffee lingering.

Mouth is med to fuller bod, decent fluffy carb, just a bit of warming booze, quite syrupy.

Overall not bad but not what I'm used to for altbiers. Bit too much on the candy syrupy caramel toffee like flavors, decent hops at least, bit too strong ale like.

Photo of mactrail
2.98/5  rDev -23.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 2.5

Color is a ruby red amber with a persistent foam. Smell of vegetables soup. Tangy and quite carbonated in the mouth.

Flavor is butterscotch with dank herbs. I am not convinced that more hops is the answer to making a better Old Ale. Quite bitter aftertaste after sipping for awhile. It's something like a candy-apple artichoke. Mineral taste at the finish with something tarry.

An interesting experiment, but not so pleasant to drink. Overall it's sweet and bitter. From the 500 ml bottle bought at Bine and Vine in San Diego.

Photo of rudzud
3.95/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Recently stumbled across my notes from The Festival 2012. Lets do this!

A - Poured a light hazy deep amber hue with a big, fluffy one finger head that fades nicely. Quite good.

S - Nice caramel/toffee, subtle grains/malts. Just a touch of smoke too. Nice.

T - Taste is like the nose with very good caramel notes, nice toasted malts, faint smoke too. Touch on the dry side.

M - Mouthfeel is pretty good, nice carbonation, slightly smooth. Pretty solid

O - Overall, not a bad beer. A touch too smokey for my likes when it comes to this style.

Photo of falloutsnow
4.1/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From: West Lakeview Liquors, Chicago, IL
Date: None on bottle
Glass: Ayinger willi glass

This is a very good doppelsticke alt, with the addition of smoked malt making a unique twist on the style. The 7.5% ethanol never becomes apparent through the rich and complex mixture of caramel, roasted, and smoked malts. While I don't think I'd want more than one in a sitting, this is one to enjoy again, if encountered.

Pours a 1cm tall head of grayish-tan foam, the bubbles medium to small in size, looking like, simply, a mass of medium and small-sized bubbles. Retention is about a minute, average for the style, but leads to interesting balustrade-like foam foam pattern clinging around the entire perimeter of the glass. The head settles to a ring around the glass composed of large-sized bubbles, and some wispy foam islands floating atop the liquid. The body is an interesting, dark reddish-brown hue, with light bringing out very dark brownish-red garnet colors, highlights in orange. Carbonation is not visible in the nearly opaque (90% or so) beer.

Aroma is of caramelized sugars, raisin, prune, modest roasted and smoked malt, hints of spicy and mulch-like hops.

The flavor overall is one of roasted malts giving a burnt toast character, mixed with raisin, prune, and dried fig esters, caramelized sugars, a mild smokiness, and woodsy, slightly bitter hops. Front of palate picks up very rich caramelized malts, raisin, dried black mission fig, and prune-like esters, with slight roastiness that reminds one of burnt toast. Mid-palate is of very rich caramelized and roasted malt sweetness with mild acridity, slight bitter chocolate, campfire-like smokiness, and woodsy, slightly bitter hops. Back of palate notes spicy, slightly bitter Continental hops, modest smoked malt (more campfire than bacon), roasted malt that interacts with the caramel malt to produce a sweet, caramel-chocolate flavor. There's also significant raisin, prune, and dried fig going on here.

The beer is medium to medium-heavy in body, with carbonation of medium-low intensity, resulting in a mostly smooth, slightly foamy mouthfeel. Closes semi-dry, with moderate stickiness remaining on the palate after a sip.

Photo of seand
3.96/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A: Pours a dark translucent brown, with quite a bit of dense tan head. A healthy layer retains, leaving streaky lacing.

S: Malty caramel sweetness with a touch of smoke.

T: Caramel, a bit of booze, and hoppy notes to finish, again with a touch of smokiness.

M: On the full side of medium bodied, medium carbonation.

Overall, pretty good, and unique. I'd have it again.

Photo of aasher
4.05/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This one pours a medium bodied dark raisin brown with a very creamy, two finger beige head. The nose features sweet and somewhat fruity dark malt with a certain creaminess. The flavors are much different. It is malty and does have some dried dark fruit to it but it then goes into a dry, leathery earthiness indicative of only a few old ales. After a few sips I can't help but think this beer drinks like a crazy Irish Dry Stout/Old Ale/Wee Heavy hybrid. It drinks very, very smoothly and is full bodied enough. It drinks somewhat stout and is pretty dry. It isn't boozy by any means but it does drink like a beer of higher alcohol content, hard to explain but it drinks big. Overall this was a spectacular beer and definitely worth a try if you're into old ales, wee heavies, or alt beers.

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Freigeist Hoppeditz from Braustelle
87 out of 100 based on 112 ratings.