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Freigeist Hoppeditz - Braustelle

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88
very good

93 Ratings
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Ratings: 93
Reviews: 32
rAvg: 3.94
pDev: 9.9%
Wants: 4
Gots: 4 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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Germany

Style | ABV
Altbier |  7.50% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: crnipeter on 03-18-2011)
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Photo of Etan
4.08/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Always like trying a new Freigeist beer.

A: Pours a thick-looking dark brown with a nice light tan head.

S: Smells of honey, oatmeal, slightly floral, sweet dark bread.

T: Taste brings mild earthy bitterness, honeycake, caramelized grain, a bit leafy, molasses, leather, raisins.

M: This beer is pretty damn thick-feeling, with low carbonation. Very chewy.

O: This beer is hearty, to say the least. I like it.

Photo of magictacosinus
3.76/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.5

Poured out of a 500ml bottle into a wine glass as part of the Freigeist Bierkultur tasting flight at Trappist Provisions. The bottle lists this, in fact, as a "doppelsticke alt," meaning a "double mistake altbier." What could be the mistake of making a "doppelalt," I wonder?

Pours a reddish plum color that I absolutely love in the doppelbock style, with definitely some key differences that make this closer to an altbier. Brownish tones, a good deal of carbonation, and a bone-white head that coats the top of the glass and leaves some decent lacing behind. Definitely on it's way to the viscous, thickened side of things, but I have a feeling this is more to the bottle conditioning at work here rather than the beer's strength. Eye candy for sure - looks juicy and delectable.

The aroma is a classic for the style - dark fruit, present spices, and hearty breadiness. Notes of plums, raisins, black cherries, and prunes start it off, only to follow clove, rosemary, and cinnamon spices afterwards. Slightly medicinal flavors come and go. The malt profile is very thick and hearty based on the aroma alone, resembling freshly baked pumpernickel bread, and finishes slightly nutty and leathery. Really good stuff - definitely a bit sweet, but as rich as these beers should be without being overwhelming.

The flavor came as a surprise to me, however. At first, there's notes of raisins, prunes, and cherries, only to be followed by an INTENSE black licorice flavor that coats the entire palate in a tannic, bittered manner. This is the equivalent of biting off a piece of black licorice and chewing it slowly. Did not expect that at all, but I must admit that it does save itself from becoming overly phenolic with the entry of leathery, nutty, and even tobacco-y flavors at the finish. Bready and chewy for sure, and while it's robust and hearty, it's definitely more on the medicinal side, especially with the entry of the excessive licorice and clove. It's drinkable, but only to an extent - this took me a good long while to finish.

I did not expect the licorice notes at all, but it's at least good to see a change of pace on the doppelbock and altbier style for once. For the sake of practicality, I'd probably not revisit this anytime soon, but it still stands as a well made and ambitious beer for what it is. A strong, monstrous doppelbock flavor-wise - one of the strongest that's readily available on the market!

Photo of sneaks2210
3.75/5  rDev -4.8%

Photo of BeerForMuscle
3.75/5  rDev -4.8%

Photo of jiffymon
4/5  rDev +1.5%

Photo of sleazo
3.84/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A_Dark rich brown with a coffee colored smallish cap. Minimal lacing

S_Caramel is strong in the nose with a bit of freshly baked pumpernickel

T_Caramel and toffee hits first followed by some sweet dark red fruit. The finish is nicely dry and a bit spicy. As it warms notes of clove and cherry come through.

M_slightly sticky but not too much so. Tight carbonation spreads the liquid well.

O_Pretty tasty overall and a nice well done Alt

Photo of jlindros
3.7/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Pours an off-white creamy bubbly almost 1 finger head that fades pretty slowly with nice lacing, very dark mahogany murky brown color wtih some maroon light streaming through.

Nose brings plenty of sweet reddish candy malts, toasty candy malts, lots of toffee and nutty aromas, caramel and brown sugar galore, creamy candy like little maple creams, light syrupy sweet smell, hint of booze and touch phenols, a hint of a mocha aroma too, into big spicy chewy hops, earthy, mild nougat marshmallow like aroma too.

Taste brings more dark malts, a lot more like a big brown ale, strong ale, or porter than alt, big sweet candy flavors, reddish candy, toffee, little nutty, nice brown sugar and syrupy sugar like, little creamy malt, that brings a bit of a booze warmth and touch phenols. Then into light nougat like sweet syrupy earthy almost root based syrup, etc, and touch of mocha. Then into hops, slight earthy spicy hops, almost chewy, but not super bitter. Finish is fairly bitter, lingering earthy hop, little syrupy sweet sticky like, little candy and caramel toffee lingering.

Mouth is med to fuller bod, decent fluffy carb, just a bit of warming booze, quite syrupy.

Overall not bad but not what I'm used to for altbiers. Bit too much on the candy syrupy caramel toffee like flavors, decent hops at least, bit too strong ale like.

Photo of fdig23
4/5  rDev +1.5%

Photo of mactrail
2.98/5  rDev -24.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 2.5

Color is a ruby red amber with a persistent foam. Smell of vegetables soup. Tangy and quite carbonated in the mouth.

Flavor is butterscotch with dank herbs. I am not convinced that more hops is the answer to making a better Old Ale. Quite bitter aftertaste after sipping for awhile. It's something like a candy-apple artichoke. Mineral taste at the finish with something tarry.

An interesting experiment, but not so pleasant to drink. Overall it's sweet and bitter. From the 500 ml bottle bought at Bine and Vine in San Diego.

Photo of dnphoto
4/5  rDev +1.5%

Photo of DonFrap
3.75/5  rDev -4.8%

Photo of SFC21
3.75/5  rDev -4.8%

Photo of GrindFatherBob
3.75/5  rDev -4.8%

Photo of mklisz
4.25/5  rDev +7.9%

Photo of willjschmidt
4/5  rDev +1.5%

Photo of rudzud
3.95/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Recently stumbled across my notes from The Festival 2012. Lets do this!

A - Poured a light hazy deep amber hue with a big, fluffy one finger head that fades nicely. Quite good.

S - Nice caramel/toffee, subtle grains/malts. Just a touch of smoke too. Nice.

T - Taste is like the nose with very good caramel notes, nice toasted malts, faint smoke too. Touch on the dry side.

M - Mouthfeel is pretty good, nice carbonation, slightly smooth. Pretty solid

O - Overall, not a bad beer. A touch too smokey for my likes when it comes to this style.

Photo of digita7693
4.25/5  rDev +7.9%

Photo of ilikebeer03
3.75/5  rDev -4.8%

Photo of falloutsnow
4.11/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From: West Lakeview Liquors, Chicago, IL
Date: None on bottle
Glass: Ayinger willi glass

This is a very good doppelsticke alt, with the addition of smoked malt making a unique twist on the style. The 7.5% ethanol never becomes apparent through the rich and complex mixture of caramel, roasted, and smoked malts. While I don't think I'd want more than one in a sitting, this is one to enjoy again, if encountered.

Pours a 1cm tall head of grayish-tan foam, the bubbles medium to small in size, looking like, simply, a mass of medium and small-sized bubbles. Retention is about a minute, average for the style, but leads to interesting balustrade-like foam foam pattern clinging around the entire perimeter of the glass. The head settles to a ring around the glass composed of large-sized bubbles, and some wispy foam islands floating atop the liquid. The body is an interesting, dark reddish-brown hue, with light bringing out very dark brownish-red garnet colors, highlights in orange. Carbonation is not visible in the nearly opaque (90% or so) beer.

Aroma is of caramelized sugars, raisin, prune, modest roasted and smoked malt, hints of spicy and mulch-like hops.

The flavor overall is one of roasted malts giving a burnt toast character, mixed with raisin, prune, and dried fig esters, caramelized sugars, a mild smokiness, and woodsy, slightly bitter hops. Front of palate picks up very rich caramelized malts, raisin, dried black mission fig, and prune-like esters, with slight roastiness that reminds one of burnt toast. Mid-palate is of very rich caramelized and roasted malt sweetness with mild acridity, slight bitter chocolate, campfire-like smokiness, and woodsy, slightly bitter hops. Back of palate notes spicy, slightly bitter Continental hops, modest smoked malt (more campfire than bacon), roasted malt that interacts with the caramel malt to produce a sweet, caramel-chocolate flavor. There's also significant raisin, prune, and dried fig going on here.

The beer is medium to medium-heavy in body, with carbonation of medium-low intensity, resulting in a mostly smooth, slightly foamy mouthfeel. Closes semi-dry, with moderate stickiness remaining on the palate after a sip.

Photo of NOLANDMAN
4.75/5  rDev +20.6%

Photo of kaelingirl
4/5  rDev +1.5%

Photo of seand
3.96/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A: Pours a dark translucent brown, with quite a bit of dense tan head. A healthy layer retains, leaving streaky lacing.

S: Malty caramel sweetness with a touch of smoke.

T: Caramel, a bit of booze, and hoppy notes to finish, again with a touch of smokiness.

M: On the full side of medium bodied, medium carbonation.

Overall, pretty good, and unique. I'd have it again.

Photo of aasher
4.08/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This one pours a medium bodied dark raisin brown with a very creamy, two finger beige head. The nose features sweet and somewhat fruity dark malt with a certain creaminess. The flavors are much different. It is malty and does have some dried dark fruit to it but it then goes into a dry, leathery earthiness indicative of only a few old ales. After a few sips I can't help but think this beer drinks like a crazy Irish Dry Stout/Old Ale/Wee Heavy hybrid. It drinks very, very smoothly and is full bodied enough. It drinks somewhat stout and is pretty dry. It isn't boozy by any means but it does drink like a beer of higher alcohol content, hard to explain but it drinks big. Overall this was a spectacular beer and definitely worth a try if you're into old ales, wee heavies, or alt beers.

Photo of brotherloco
3.5/5  rDev -11.2%

Photo of t0rin0
3.5/5  rDev -11.2%

Freigeist Hoppeditz from Braustelle
88 out of 100 based on 93 ratings.