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John's Generations White Ale - Millstream Brewing Company

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BA SCORE
84
good

247 Ratings
THE BROS
89
very good

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Ratings: 247
Reviews: 149
rAvg: 3.72
pDev: 12.9%
Wants: 11
Gots: 13 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Millstream Brewing Company visit their website
Iowa, United States

Style | ABV
Witbier |  5.20% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
White Ale's are Belgian style beers, often refered to as "Wit" beer. Our version of this classic style is a wonderful spicy brew, infused with orange peel and coriander spices. It has a crisp refreshing flavor and a slight 'white' haze from the large percentage of wheat used in the mash.

14 IBU

(Beer added by: Todd on 05-01-2002)
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Reviews by daledeee:
Photo of daledeee
4.15/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This is toll produced for John's Grocery Inc.-one of the great beer stores. It varies a little from batch to batch. The new batch does not have much of a head. I usually serve it pretty cold. The color is a yellow-orange. Nice nose. Spice and citrus. The taste is citrus and spice(mostly coriander). Very velvetty as you sip it. Finishes drier. This beer comes off as pretty sweet. That keeps me from wanting more than one at a time, but this beer is brewed very true to the genre.

daledeee, May 25, 2003
More User Reviews:
Photo of JudgeRoughneck
3.9/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer has a nice thin, frothy, white head with a classic wit aroma of tangy citrus. I can't vouch for the color as it was served in a translucent plastic cup. This is just a very refreshing and balanced wit with great wheat base, just enough tang, and the spices are only hinted at which makes for one easy drinker. Mouthfeel is nice and thin.

JudgeRoughneck, Jul 08, 2006
Photo of Joebraggot
3/5  rDev -19.4%

Joebraggot, Mar 22, 2014
Photo of marvin213
2.65/5  rDev -28.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Initially it came out crystal clear white and looking like a pure beer. By the time I finished the pour, however, it turned kinda cloudy and I actually saw sediment floating thru the liquid! I hardly ever notice sediment. It seems almost too cloudy to be a "white" ale, but I'm wondering if the muddiness might make this one better...

The smell is a lemony burst--it approaches pungency. Despite its carbonation and fizziness, it's like old lemonade. It smells more like lemon PEEL than lemon--really more like discarded lemons/peels. I'm picturing the morning after an obnoxious Cinco de Mayo party (replace lime with lemon). The smell of this beer definitely has character, and I respect it for that.

The taste is like everything else so far: interesting, but not quite good. In fact, further sipping leads to more associations with the stale lemonade. I want to respect John's Grocery and Iowa City, and I do. I want to like this 50th anniversary production, but I can't. I just don't think it's very good. It's over-carbonated, under-filtered, and totally unpolished. That might be what they were going for. Still, it's too acidic--like it's corroding my teeth. Oddly, however, I continue to drink it. I wonder if it'd be better if I put an orange in it. Without one available, I'll have to conclude that more sugar and citric acid won't offer too much help.

I'm amazed I continue to drink this while I continue to confirm the stale, sour qualities. It's funny because it's still not a bad beer. The feel isn't great but, as with the smell, I respect a beer that's trying to do something. Though I don't really like it, the mouthfeel is a distinct one.

Though I can talk about and give credit for uniqueness in every other category, the bottom line is I wouldn't really ever want to drink this beer again. All this description...and then that;)

marvin213, May 31, 2009
Photo of Jason
3.93/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Presentation: 12 oz brown bottle, on the side is a blurb about the beer being brewed to celebrate the 50th anniversary of John's Grocery INC. No freshness date to be found.

Appearance: Pale beige amber with a yeilding stick lace true to the style.

Smell: The usual suspects ... coriander and citric peel.

Taste: Medium bodied with a mouth feel that is smooth and crisp at the same time. Grain from start to finish though gets more noticable towards the end. Good balance with the spices ... coriander and orange peel are dominant with hints of pepper that come the same time as the fruitiness. Hop character is kept to a minimum.

Notes: As far as White Ales go, this is a great one. Very well balanced ... a brew to be proud of.

Jason, May 01, 2002
Photo of merlin48
3.8/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

My first Iowa beer, thanks to mentor. This Wit pours a hazed, lemonaid colored yellow body with a medium white head that slowly falls into a lasting collar. Patch and sheet lacing merit a four for better than average Witbier appearance.
Aroma is wheaty malty, with lemon citrus and coriander.
Mouthfeel is light medium bodied, with plenty of carbonation.
Taste is pleasant, with bready wheat grain, sticky yeast, lemony citrus, coriander, and white pepper.
A solid American witbier that is very sessionable. Thanks to mentor for the sample.

merlin48, Jan 15, 2005
Photo of NicholasCasber
3.9/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: This beer, when poured into a Pilsner glass, produced a nice head which was quickly settled, and left a nice sud ring around the whole glass, producing some fairly stable lacing.

S: Smelled like wheat and a little citrus.

T: The taste was fairly bitter, which was finished off by a nice short sweet end on the aftertaste.

M: The beer felt fairly fullbodied for a white ale, which I was very pleased with.

D: This beer was great to try, still not my favorite although I did rate it fairly high.

Overall, one of the better beers from Millstream, however their Amber still takes the cake for me. Best of luck in your beer findings. Cheers.

NicholasCasber, Dec 24, 2009
Photo of bsp77
3.35/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Received in June shipment of my beer of the month club.

Serving glass: Poured from bottle into new Summit Pint.

Appearance: Pale hazy yellow that is very active with a fast forming head.

Smell: Major orange peel, with some coriander and wheat.

Taste: Tart orange is dominate with nice coriander notes. More tart than the typical Witbier, but not much complexity beyond that.

Feel: High carbonation and light body. Maybe a little too fizzy.

Drinkability: The tartness makes it quite refreshing, like lemonade. Otherwise, a fairly average Wit.

bsp77, Jul 07, 2009
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3.25/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Cloudy dark gold beer, like 1000 ppm you'd think when looking at the haze. Soft white head on it in the 3/4" range. Mild flowery citrus hibiscus coriander thing going on in the aroma, which is what the style is usually going for, so it has that going for it.

A thickness I did not see coming. Wow, if you prefer your wheat beers on the sludgy side, this is the beer for you. I'll give it credit, this is pretty chewy. It has a mineral flower thing in the mouthfeel that isn't my favorite aspect of the beer. Maybe its a minor presence of the alcohol.

This beer truly has been around for generations. The Amana colonies and John's grocery in Iowa City together for this one homies. One of my first Midwestern beers I had ever tried at the close of the 20th century, an interesting time revisiting the beer tonight.

Beerandraiderfan, Jan 15, 2012
Photo of WVbeergeek
4.1/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Deep golden heavily clouded hue with an orange golden rod tint to it, very heavy carbonation for the white quickly disipating head leaves some lacing sporadically with each sip. Aroma: Orange peel enters my senses profusely with coriander and other festive spices gives a very creamy citrusy smoothie approach, but very solid all around not hating very nice scent should sell insense that smells like this beauty. Taste: A great mix of sharp unmalted wheat and citrus notes along with ungodly amounts of spices including coriander and orange peel most notably. Big and flavorful heavily spiced in a very good way comes a close second to Great Lakes Holy Moses. Mouthfeel: High carbonation causes burping in the first few sips, creamy texture also comes through with each sip. Drinkability: I can't really complain one of the better American brewed flavorful witbiers, god bless. Oh and thanks BuckeyeNation for the sample.

WVbeergeek, Jul 31, 2004
Photo of OStrungT
3.88/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Recieved as part of the 2006 Great Race BIF from MABZ on Team Spring.

This beer pours a cloudy yellow, with a very thin white head. The head fades quickly, leaving almost no laces.

This beer has a spicy aroma. I detect some coriander. It has a citrus hop aroma to it also. It also has a slight yeasty aroma.

This beer is mildly spiced. It has a light citrus flavor. Everything I am detecting from the flavor is quite mild. It has a very light clove flavor. It is also slightly grainy.

This beer is very smooth. It leaves a slightly spicy aftertaste. It is just a little undercarbonated.

I think this would probably be a great session beer. It is very mild. Also, it is not high in alcohol. It is very easy to drink.

Thanks MABZ for hooking me up woth a new state.

OStrungT, Apr 12, 2006
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4/5  rDev +7.5%

schoon, Dec 12, 2012
Photo of frankiepop
4.05/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Presentation: Beautiful label with a picture of the wonderful John's Grocery of Iowa City and celebrating John's 50th anniversary.

Appearance: Pale beige amber with a nice fat
head and swell lacing.

Aroma: Mellow yellow with coriander and citric peel.

Taste: Nice dry mellow beer. Easy on carbonation for good smoothness. Light spiceness that lingers on the tongue. Nice.

Compares with Amadeus or Hoegaarden. That's the league it's in. A soccer analogy is that this beer competes in the Spanish league very well for a place in the European Champions League! Well balanced with the spices ... coriander and orange peel with hints of lemon.

Notes: A wonderful white ale that goes excellently with the music of free jazz player Paul Smoker on the Cimp label.

frankiepop, Feb 02, 2012
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3.75/5  rDev +0.8%

richkrull, Dec 21, 2013
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3/5  rDev -19.4%

kazam55, Jun 30, 2014
Photo of LordofTime25
3.8/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pour to a golden color with little or no head. Could see the carbination bubling.

A very yeast dominate smell with a little fruitiness to it.

Tastes wheaty to start then get dominated but the fuity yeast taste.

Has a nice full body with a deffinant peresance on carbination.

I would definatly drink this again!

LordofTime25, Oct 22, 2008
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3.5/5  rDev -5.9%

RDW, Mar 16, 2014
Photo of NJpadreFan
3.53/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Millstream- John's Generation White

A- A hazy bright yellow with a good thick white head. Chunky ringed lacing down the pint glass.
S- Sour orange coriander.
T- Sugary sweet and sour orange peel with lemon. Floral coriander and lavender body.
M- Sweet up front with a bold fruity sour body. Floral dryness and a thick sour finish.

Overall- Good solid flavorful Wit.

NJpadreFan, Jun 16, 2009
Photo of BrewMaven
3.6/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This is in my Beer of the month club delivery for Feb.

Pours a cloudy deep gold and sports a fluffy head of off-white foam that shows some darker spots (Due to being unfiltered?). Head receded slowly leaving some lace about the glass.

The main thing I pick up in the aroma is a slightly musty vanilla and a hind of citrus rind. Taste also had these traits and was slightly malty with no hint of hops that I could tell. Finish is dry and smooth. Light bodied but mouthfeel belies this somewhat. Carbonation is lively.

Interesting style. I'd like to try others of it's ilk.

BrewMaven, Mar 10, 2007
Photo of Metalmonk
4.13/5  rDev +11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a John's Grocery glass, naturally. (You can take the boy out of Iowa, but you can't take the Iowa out of the boy.) The head disappeared way too quickly, but the color is nice, with a slightly hazy, sunny golden-yellow glow.

Aroma resembles the best tripels, with a spicy, faintly yeasty, flowery sweetness. Citrus elements are here, but ride on the back of the aforementioned aromas.

Flavor-wise I'm again reminded just as much of a tripel as I am a white ale, due to the spiciness and yeasty presence, but certainly the citrusy aspect of the best white ales comes through. Light dessert-y spices, bitterness from the hops and a robust mustard-seed heartiness mingle and dominate. There's also a woodiness to the finish, and a nice aftertaste spreads throughout the mouth, keeping the flowery and sweet spices around a good while. Mouthfeel is nice and creamy but cut short by a quick-drying in the finish. That's not a criticism, just an observation, and I like this element of the beer best.

Really good white ale, different and confidently doing its own thing while not straying too far outside the style's parameters. Easily the best of the three Millstream beers I've had.

Metalmonk, Oct 12, 2006
Photo of cokes
4.6/5  rDev +23.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Opaque milky yellow under a milky froth or solid duration and cling.
Nose is full of the archtypal Witbier aromas, coriander-and-Saaz-provided lemon grass, orange zest, wheat. Summer hay. Gentle breezes. Moderate humidity. Starry nights.
Begins with a cracker dryness. Snap of Pils malts, then it settles into a cushier wheat base. A mild, flaked sweetness creeps in. Spices follow. Leafy cilantro, lemon, lime, and orange rinds. Ends with a congruent Saaz lemon-herb clap.
Light bodied, but firm, and well-defined. This is a sleek and muscular beer. And drinkable in vats.
This one does everything exactly right. One of the best I've had.

cokes, Sep 24, 2004
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3.1/5  rDev -16.7%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A - A monstrous "four finger and then some" head roiled uncontrollably over the lip of my big ass snifter. The beast of a head is snow white and looks rocky and delicate...like eggshells. It slowly, and i mean SLOWLY recedes to about two fingers and stays put. Lots of powdery posts of dusty lace is left on the glass after big sticky gobs of foam slide down the side. The brew itself is a peach apricot hue and very hazy with lots of particulate yeast chunks floating around. Wow...this perfect example of a witbeir looks great! I've got a beer-boner!

S - Mellow lemon-meringue pie...I'm not really sure what chiffon is, but if it's what I think it is, then this smells like lemon chiffon. Mellow cream....like a lemon flavored icing or donut glaze. This is pretty weak though. I'd like a bit more power out of this nice nose.

T - This is reaching the lemon-oriented end of the wit spectrum, although there are some mellow spices there too. Something here reminds me of cinnamon, while other notes remind me of lemon scented candles. This is pretty intricate stuff. A lot is going on here, but like the nose it seems a bit under powered.

M - Light bodied and fluffy...like chiffon or that airy sugary icing found on crepes. The finish is neutral, with a little hint of lemon left after the swallow.

D - A nice tart thirst quencher for the summer months. It's pleasant enough, but nothing special. Looks great though!

pmcadamis, Aug 12, 2008
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3.53/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Adam for this tick. Poured from a 12oz. bottle into a Sam Adams perfect pint.

A: Standard pour creates a .5 finger coarse, white head that dissipates quickly into a ring around the edges. Beer is a cloudy sunshine yellow. Lacing is spotty and sparse with little cling.

S: Notes of rubber, lemon, banana, and various floral esthers. Spicy, tingly, and sweet. Aromatic and simple.

T: Opens watery with subtle hints of lemon and banana. Spiciness builds to a crescendo at the middle. Flowery and powdery as it finishes. Spicy and yeasty right at the end. Aftertaste leaves very little. A bit one dimensional but quenching and enjoyable.

M: Light bodied, crisp, and aggressively carbonated. Watery and lively in the mouth. Coarse and rough all the way down. Finish is accented and aftertaste is relatively clean. Very refreshing.

D: A pretty standard, run of the mill witbier. Nice and refreshing with a simple, crisp flavor. I wouldn't hesitate to have this one again but its nothing out of the ordinary.

SpeedwayJim, Oct 12, 2010
Photo of Southernbrew
4/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy light-orange with a sizable white head.

Aroma is just as expected-orange and coriander.

Medium body, light carbonation, fairly smooth. The orange and coriander flavors show up foremost and are backed up with just a hint of spiciness. The flavors stay the same the entire way through, not bad, just nothing different.

A fine witbier, really helped to cool off on a hot Iowa night.

Southernbrew, Jul 08, 2005
Photo of bditty187
3.95/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Vaguely tawny-yellow in color, translucent with just a drop of haziness, quick to dissolve white head, soapy, no lace. The nose starts strong with coriander, lemon, and orange zest... right on for the style (does weaken greatly). Calmly spicy palate, good amounts of orange and coriander, minimal wheat, faint sweetness, equally faint tartness. Medium-light body; pleasant and easy to quaff. Slightly citric finish that quickly melts into orangey-coriander... similar aftertaste. Nicely dry. Thirst quenching and appetizing. Recommended.

bditty187, Apr 13, 2003
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John's Generations White Ale from Millstream Brewing Company
84 out of 100 based on 247 ratings.