Flying Monkeys Netherworld Cascadian Dark Ale - Flying Monkeys Craft Brewery

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Reviews: 77
Hads: 175
rAvg: 3.84
pDev: 10.42%
Wants: 6
Gots: 18 | FT: 0
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Ontario, Canada

Style | ABV
American Black Ale |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

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Beer added by: Sammy on 11-01-2009

Formerly known as Flying Monkeys Netherworld India Pale Porter.

35 IBU
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Photo of RyanPollock
4.75/5  rDev +23.7%

wow! I really enjoyed this. At first the taste is very bitter but it quickly reveals a dark chocolate and coffee flavour. The hop taste is very complex and the mouthfeel is like drinking a dark roast espresso. The mild carbonation makes this beer surprisingly smooth. The taste is varied with each sip but overall, a very enjoyable dark ale that overs a unique experience. I have been very impressed with the beers i have tried from Flying Monkey and i look forward to what else they have to offer! (498 characters)

Photo of korguy123
4.65/5  rDev +21.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12oz unlabeled bottle into DFH Signature Glass.

A- Rich opaque black pour. Finger width khaki head that recedes to a thing ring. Zero light shines through. Lacing is completely magical!

S- Great hop presence, lightly toasted malts, grapefruit, mandarin oranges, strawberries, milk chocolate, vanilla and brown sugar. Molasses comes out as the beer get to pretty much room temperature.

T- All from above nicely transfer to the wonderful taste.The toasted malts and citrusy hops battling for supremacy on my tongue. Faint earthy tones on the back end.

M- Good hop bitterness tingles the tastebuds, feels a little thinner than it should be, but that's what you get when you delve into a new/hybrid style.

Probably the best Black IPA I've had to date. I think I actually prefer this to Stone's SSR (although SSR was a little heavier which was good) (849 characters)

Photo of dgilks
4.38/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Very dark brown colour with a big, fluffy tan head. Good head retention.

Big, sharp piney aroma with some mild citrus notes. Quite sweet malt but that works here with some nice caramel and sweet chocolate tones.

A well balanced combination of chocolatey, nutty malt and piney, citrusy hops. Good, medium bitterness.

Medium full body with moderately low carbonation. Good.

A really solid beer and one of my favourites of the trip so far. Fantastically hoppy with a small dose of chocolatey malt. (499 characters)

Photo of Swedes21
4.32/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

341 fl oz served in a chilled glass

Appearance - beer pours a dark auburn colour that allows some light through. It is hard to tell the carbonation level due to the darkness. The head i about one finger and is an off-white. Some minimal lacing.

Smell - was not expecting this, but the hops and pine are definite smells that come fwd. There is a slight caramel smell as well. The other smell is the citrus base, from grapefruit.

Taste - As the smell, hops and pine are dominant taste to this beer. I am actually quite surprised, but the citrus comes through as well. Compared to the smell, i pick up some coffee taste, something i did not pick up in the scent. Lingering aftertaste too.

Mouthfeel - slight levels of increased carbonation bring the coffee flavour fwd a little more. The beer maintains its taste as well adds a decent amount of fullness.

Drinkability - was not expecting this from this beer and had no idea what to expect. This is a great beer that i picked up in the Holiday Mixer pack at the LCBO. Awesome find for a Tuesday night! (1,052 characters)

Photo of kwjd
4.27/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Somehow I haven't revieved this beer yet, even though I've had several pints of this. Had this on tap at C'est What. Pours a very dark brown colour with thin tan head. Nice lacing down the glass. Smells of a lot of roasted malt with some coffee, but with a big citrus hop kick. Nice bitterness balanced out with a sweet malt. Smooth carbonation level. This is one of my favourite CDA's, I'm glad it is local so I have access to it. (431 characters)

Photo of yesyouam
4.25/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Flying Monkeys Netherworld CDA is a very dim reddish brown beer with a cappuccino colored head that's foamy and bubbly. It leaves excellent lace on the glass. It has a heavy citrus aroma with a good dose of dark roast coffee. It's medium-by-light bodied, foamy and smooth. The crunchy, astringent finish leaves the mouth dry. The flavor is a good dose of citrus bitterness. Dark, roasted tones rumble underneath. Bitter grapefruit and tangerine last well after the swallow. This is a bold and flavorful beer that's fun to drink, but too tongue crushing to be a session ale. (573 characters)

Photo of smakawhat
4.22/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from the bottle into a Carlsberg tulip tall pint glass. From notes.

A very dark walnut black body with a very yellow three finger head. Big retention on the head, with circular rings of lace.

Nose is a great citrus grapefruit zest and flesh. Hop forward almost west coast sense, maybe even north west style. Little roast character it seems, but a great hop front. Incredibly fruity.

Palate does an almost 180 on the hop front. Hop angle comes out with juice orange and tea herbal bitters. Malt roast character a little bit on the finish, with a good black tea like finish. Light bodied palate with some juicy character.

Overall I have never had a black ipa smell and taste like this and be so varied. It seems liie a mix of American and English IPA style in a black ale. Very memorable, love it! (806 characters)

Photo of tbeckett
4.21/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Good to see more adventurous styles being accepted by the LCBO. With updated notes from Aug 2013 because I thought I was a tad too generous when I first tried this..

A - Black or very dark red. Bright. Slight carbonation noticable. Creamy, two finger off white head that lasts the whole duration and leaves a little bit of lacing.

S - Lot's of nice juicy hops in the form of grapefruit and some soapiness. A little bit of pinesol maybe. Some minerality and a load of dark malts. A really balanced aroma. Dark fruit and coffee. Well balanced.

T - Really nice dark malt sweetness come first followed by some good hops. Mild chocolate and coffee. Definitely not a hop bomb. Balanecd.

M - Medium body with mild-medium carbonation. Decent bitterness lingers.

D - Yes! A nice balance of a great malt character and a nice, fruity hop profile make this a great change that is easy to access. The sessionable abv is great too. Balance is well done. (945 characters)

Photo of mrnobody
4.2/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I've only had a couple Black IPAs: Stone Sublimely Self Righteous and Dieu du Ciel Penombre. SSR is an amazing beer. I liked Penombre but it didn't make a huge impression on me.

355 ml bottle poured into a Duvel tulip.

A: Pours a dark brown with a reddish tint when held up to the light. One finger of tan head recedes to a ring of foam, a little lacing.

S: As advertised: Cascade hops. Delicious fruit but also some roasty malts in the background.

T: What I'd always imagined a Black IPA should taste like: lots of grapefruit with a lingering bitterness but also stout/porter roasted flavours. This is from Ontario? Delicious.

M: Mouthfeel does seem a bit heavier than a straight IPA, carbonation also seems lower but not really an issue.

D: Very good.

Overall, quite impressed with this one. Up there with the reformulated Great Lakes Devil's Pale Ale in terms of Ontario offerings available at the lcbo. (914 characters)

Photo of TheSevenDuffs
4.13/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to korguy123 for sending me a fresh bottle straight from the brewery.

Poured from an unlabeled 12 oz. bottle in to a Duvel tulip glass.

A - Dark brown/black colour with 2 fingers of thick, bubbly, light brown head.

S - Dark roasted malts with some coffee and licorice notes up front. A lot of bitterness from the hops is present as well but only some very subdued citrus notes come through from them.

T - A balanced combination of dark roasted malts and bitter hops. Some coffee notes come through from the malts along with some toasted nuts but no specific flavours are present from the hops - just the bitterness. A slight sweetness is present in the finish.

M - Medium body with a slight chew. Lightly carbonated.

D - A very enjoyable beer. My first experience with the style. Would buy this one again. (823 characters)

Photo of liamt07
4.13/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle courtesy of korguy123, straight from the brewery. This puppy can't be more than a week old. Cheers Matt!

Netherworld pours a deep dark chestnut brown, bordering on black with a two and a half finger mocha head. Not a shit-ton of lace, but some quality retention. Nose is huge, tons of chocolate, lighter roasted malts, with hints of caramel and coffee. Sitting underneath this is a definite hop presence, well masked by the darker notes overtop. Still some pine and citrus faintly make their way through. Taste has notes of faint chocolate, cold coffee (not in a bad way!), some more roasted malt and finishes slightly bitter, getting the slightest hint of the hops. Warming up a bit reveals the hops a bit more, with some orange and citrus. Mouthfeel is nice, not too thin but not super chewy and full. Above average and somewhat creamy, and the drinkability is through the roof. ABV is not even on my radar, glass disappeared in under 10 mins. I hope they keep this as a regular offering. (998 characters)

Photo of cratez
4.13/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

16oz pint at Chancey Smith's in London, ON. Pours a cola brown with a foamy beige head that persists to the very end. Speckles of lacing line the shaker. Aroma and flavour are dark roasted malt, light coffee, and cocoa powder with white grapefruit and pine cone from the hops. Subtle hints of smoke and char followed by a lemony, citric bitterness. IBUs linger in the aftertaste. Generous carbonation, bordering on spritzy, lighter than medium mouthfeel, good spicy bite, semi-dry finish. Awesome drinkability as I packed back three pints in no time.

I'm really glad that Milos got this in and I hope the Flying Monkeys keep pumping out beers like Netherworld. EDIT (November 2010): now that this is available in bottles it will be a regular drinker for me. (758 characters)

Photo of ZorPrime
4.12/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to liamt07 for sending me this one. I wanted to try this.

Black color beer, very dark too. Almost like a stout, it doesn't look creamy as a stout. Brown head which sticks well to the glass. Aroma is hoppy like an IPA. Notes of pines and citrus, with some light notes of grapefruits. Some chocolate and roasted malts there too. Nice aroma, very inviting. Taste is very interesting... very good too. It starts piney and finish with roasted malts. Wow I like this and can't stop drinking. Medium body with a very well balanced taste and aroma. A very good beer in my book. Easy to drink. It would gain by being a little more creamy...

Well I like this beer a lot. Very well done. (685 characters)

Photo of steofwinnipeg
4.12/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

I often walked past this intriguing little colourful bottle in my local MLCC. Been meaning to try this beer for quite sometime. Anyway cut to the chase, i purchased one and very glad that I did.

On opening the bottle, the slight smell of Coffee and slight wiff off chocolate greet you. Also a wonderful smell off malts. Enjoying it already and not even tasted it yet!

The pouring of the beer produced swirling tones of brown and amber shades, finished off with a nice decent creamy head.

Now for the taste, the earlier smell off chocolate and coffee were now evident with my first taste, and the malts kicked in seconds later. I am enjoying this!

Mouthfeel excellent, a slight bubbly feel if that makes sense.
Overall I really enjoyed this delightful Dark Ale. I will not be walking past this little rascal again. Well worth a try. (837 characters)

Photo of fostachild
4.12/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

pours a very dark brown colour with a hint of red that gives lots of tan head.

hops were very present in the smell which also had a roasted aroma - possibly coffee and/or chocolate.

taste also very hoppy yet has a porter/stout feel to it - quite delicious. good carbonation and drinkability. really impressed by this one and will definitely be picking up some more. (367 characters)

Photo of Mit
4.12/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I was really happy to find this on the shelf at the liquor store.

a-dark dark dark with a very little bit of light getting through.

s-roasted malts coming through...hints of dark fruits....with some nice hoppiness to it.

t-the dark malts really come to the fore, but the hops leap right in to balance everything out. Great beer....

m-thicker. Pretty spot on for a 6.5%.

d-Pretty damn drinkable. Got a sixer and now there is only 2 left. (441 characters)

Photo of WeedKing4
4.08/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a dark black with a decent amount of foam in the Sam Adams perfect pint glass. Tastes of slight hop bitterness with a roasty like finish. Drinks down ok and the bitterness is alright for the most part. Could use a little more punch to the flavour though. Overall its a highly sessionable beer and perfect for going to a friends place for a day of drinking.

I have picked up quite a few more six packs since my first review. And this beer is growing on me. Its quite solid, and I like the little bit of roastyness and caramal taste it has in the finish. This has definately become my go to beer here in Ontario due to lack of options. (640 characters)

Photo of ThickNStout
4.07/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle smuggled home from Toronto in my luggage. Bottled 5/25/12. Served in a Red Brick snifter. 

Pours a deep, near black brown with a thick two finger dark cream head. Semi opaque, allowing light through around the edges. Plenty of lacing left caked on the glass. 

Smells great. Some orangey hops immediately give way to smokey malts. 

Taste is the expected mix of citrus hoppy and roasty malts. Well balanced. 

Medium feel with light to moderate carbonation. No noticeable alcohol. Nice dry roasty hoppy finish. 

Based on the couple brews I tried from Flying Monkeys, I'm gonna need to try more. Nothing show stopping in the Netherworld but it's quite good and very easy to drink. (698 characters)

Photo of StephenRich
4.06/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I really love the smooth roasty and nutty flavors that you can get from a porter or stout. Theres something about the flavor of fresh roasted coffee or chocolate lightly matched with toast and smooth nuts that is just immensely relaxing and satisfying to me. At the same time I love the crisp refreshing snap of a hop-focused beer. Something that is quenching and refreshing to the freshly bitter end.

Until recently there have practically been no means by which beer lovers could enjoy both of these sensations at the same moment. That being said, the Flying Monkey's Cascadian Dark Ale accomplishes exactly that feat! This beer is exactly as it sounds, a creamy and smooth porter with gentle roast and cocoa flavors matched with a fresh and lightly zesty hop crispness. The bottle shown is unlabeled because the beer and its branding are not yet finalized. I am waiting to find out from the Flying Monkeys team whether or not we can expect to see these bottled at the LCBO, but I expect that that is their intent.

This version, which I hope is, or is very close to what the final product will be is 6% abv and comes in a 355ml bottle, which will most likely find its way into a colorful 6 pack. It can be purchased in 30 or 58.6 liter kegs also directly from the brewery.

I opened the Nethwerworld up cool around 10C (50F) not really knowing where to start this Porter/IPA. So I figured, start cooler, and enjoy it through a range of temperatures. It poured a deep and dark black beer in my snifter lifting a generous 2 and a bit inch head that just crept over the brim of the glass. The head was mercilessly dense with bubbles packed tightly together everywhere in a creamy, tan to khaki foam. The beer was as clear as pitch black can get. Does that make any sense? It didn't seem heavy or foggy at all; just a clean dark evening with hints of ruby and amber brown peaking at the edges of the glass.

I'm going to skip right to my notes when the beer was slightly warmer, because it served up much bigger aromas and flavors. The nose brought soft hops with herbal notes of grass. Gentle amounts of grapefruit and citrus rind make their way in, and are soon taken over by roast, dry coffee grinds, and a subtle hint of cocoa powder. The scent is relatively light, but does show an interesting mix of classic porter roastiness, and classic IPA citrus bitter.

The first sip was all foam, and it was delicious! It was creamy and smooth with a bubbly and airy whipped milk sensation. Below that, a cool and mellow roasty porter glides initially over your tongue and lifts up smooth hop sensations of bitter herbs and light zest. First in is a soft caramel flavor mixed thoroughly with gentle roast, and biscuit malt.

With some added warmths comes both added malt sweetness and bigger hop bitterness. Malt begins to shine with hints of cocoa, dried coffee beans and creamy smooth nuts. Hops too bring forward greater strength and show touches of grapefruit and clean citrus peel with a round, herbal bitter smoothness. Overall the Cascadian is not big and rugged, it is actually very soothing and calm with soft balanced flavors and gentle whiffs of complexity.

The finish is dry and gently quenching with a soft, round end. Overall the beer is delicate and gentle with a delicious combination of smooth, nutty roast and crisp fresh hops. A superiorly quenching beer in the world of porters. This all makes this beer a perfect match with food. Because it is not overbearing and shows elegant balance I would try the Cascadian with a wide range of soft cheeses, roast beef, pub fare, and soft cookie like deserts. But it was very refreshing on its own in the heat, and I bet it will be just as soothing in the cold.

** Note, for Flying Monkeys aficionados or beer geeks; this is the Netherworld India Porter - Flying Monkeys has renamed and re-branded it to Cascadian Dark Ale. (3,880 characters)

Photo of eat
4.05/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Dark brown in colour and mostly opaque with ruby highlights. Maintains a good cover of beige head and leaves some good lacing.

Lots of hops with both citrus and earthiness coming out; pine and grapefruit balanced with some nice roasted malt.

For an Ontario beer this stuff is pretty flavourful and well balanced. Lots of hops, showing a good blend of IPA-like citrus and more earthy varieties. Under the hops lies some full-bodied roasted malt. Grapefruit, pine, roasty malt, dark chocolate and just enough caramel to perfectly balance everything out. The finish is mildly drying with some lingering grapefruit pith. It's not a complex brew but the few elements found here are expertly blended.

Maybe a little on the thin side for my liking, though it's not distracting. Medium-light body with light carbonation.

Very drinkable, I could easily down a sixer of this stuff. The body might be a bit thin but this only aids in drinkability. This is great stuff, one of the better beers I've had out of Ontario. (1,014 characters)

Photo of MattyV
4.05/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a very dark brown colour, almost opaque, just allowing faint ruby highlights throw when held up to the light. Fluffy light beige head leaves behind a bit of lacing.

The nose is interesting, at first the hops dominate with notes of pine and citrus, and then as I take a deeper whiff I start to pick up roasted malt and coffee. The malt becomes more apparent as it warms.

Taste is mostly of bitter hops, which present just a minor pine/grapefruit character. Coffee, toasted nuts, and burnt malt start to become noticeable through the middle, and mesh nicely with the hops to provide a crisp dry finish that has a pleasant citrus sourness.

Medium to light-bodied, with moderate carbonation. I felt it was a tad on the thin side, but then again, I could see this lending itself well to sessioning a few of these in succession over the course of an evening. Overall, I'm glad to see Flying Monkeys bringing more tasty and interesting beers into the LC. I think I prefer DDC's black IPA Penombre, but I'll definitely be picking up more 6'ers of this in the future. (1,067 characters)

Photo of pootz
4.04/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle of the third and latest tweak:

Pours a dark brown ale with amber highlights. frothy 2 finger off-white cap lasts. Decent lacing on the glass.

Aromas of cocoa and lemons, some grapefruit, toffee and fresh roast coffee...different!

Front side is mellow and chewy with roasty-caramel malts balanced perfectly with lemon bittering, mid palate some fruit and roasty-nuttiness, goes dry in the finish with resinous bittering and charred husk astringence.

Medium body, sandy-dry mouthfeel, smooth rounded character... a very approachable and quenching dark ale that defies classification. (595 characters)

Photo of thehyperduck
4.03/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

355 mL bottle from the LCBO; packaged March 6th of this year.

Pours an opaque brown colour, with deep crimson highlights. Three fingers of light, tan-coloured head erupt at the surface, lasting a good long while before thinning out to a creamy cap, and leaving lots of sticky lacing behind on the sides of the glass as it dissipates. Pleasant, hoppy aroma with notes of grapefruit and pine, as well as some roasted biscuit malts in the background. Nice smells, but a little weak in intensity.

Very tasty stuff, with a good balance between hops and malts. The bitter, herbal flavours of the piney, grapefruit-y hops are strong without being overbearing, so that the malty dark chocolate and roasted coffee notes are unlikely to be lost in the mix. Bitter, roasty aftertaste that makes me want to take another sip. Medium-bodied with moderate carbonation. Mouthfeel somewhere between creamy and oily.

Final Grade: 4.03, a very respectable A-. I don't get around to drinking black ales that often, mostly because they're just not particularly easy to find around here. So when I say that this is the best one I've ever tried, that statement must obviously be taken with a grain of salt. Still, from what I know of the style this is at the very least a solid example, if not an outstanding one.

I'm very satisfied with this purchase; Flying Monkeys still has never disappointed me. This is sessionable enough, but I think their Hoptical Illusion might fit that niche a bit better for me as it comes across as a bit lighter. This stuff, on the other hand, is the sort of brew where two would be enough for the night (before moving onto something else, anyway). Still, I would happily recommend Netherworld to anyone looking for a quality Ontario black ale. (1,757 characters)

Photo of DenisKolkin
4.02/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Had a pint of this on tap at the Winking Judge for birthday type celebrations. Served in a standard pint glass. Re- reviewing this for my 550th full review, it was good before but maybe it's better on tap?

Appearance - a very dark cola brown, nearing black in color. A very small film of head was poured and it receded into a thin wisp of foam rather quickly. Dark opaque and ominous.

Smell- the best of both worlds, some light roasted characteristics namely caramel and molasses with a full bouquet of citrus notes as well.

Taste - pretty much like the nose, a bunch of roasty flavours, just a touch of bitter coffee before the hop bomb drops with a brief explosion of citrus fruit. That is then followed by a reversion to molasses and other malt flavours.

Mouthfeel- smooth reasonably light bodied and just a bit of prickly carbonation to top it off.

Overall - a very good beer with rich flavours and a good balance between the roasted aspect and the hoppy aspect of a black ale. Definitely worth a shot. A fine beer for my 550th review. (1,045 characters)

Photo of heebes
4/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a deep dark brown with a thick foamy tan head. Leaves some nice lacing all the way down. The nose is a blend of roasted malt and a faint citrus hop. The sip reveals a taste all over the spectrum; from toasty smokey malts and bitter hops. The middle is the biggest range of flavour with a long finish of the bitterness from the dank west coast hops. Medium bodied, seems like a great beer, probably the best the brewery has offered. (437 characters)

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Flying Monkeys Netherworld Cascadian Dark Ale from Flying Monkeys Craft Brewery
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