Flying Monkeys Netherworld Cascadian Dark Ale - Flying Monkeys Craft Brewery

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Flying Monkeys Netherworld Cascadian Dark AleFlying Monkeys Netherworld Cascadian Dark Ale

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Reviews: 77
Hads: 175
rAvg: 3.84
pDev: 10.42%
Wants: 6
Gots: 18 | FT: 0
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Flying Monkeys Craft Brewery visit their website
Ontario, Canada

Style | ABV
American Black Ale |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Sammy on 11-01-2009

Formerly known as Flying Monkeys Netherworld India Pale Porter.

35 IBU
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Photo of Retail1LO
1.82/5  rDev -52.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

Got this as an extra in a trade with a BA in Nova Scotia for some Peche Mortel. Truthfully, I'd rather be drinking Peche Mortel. Poured this from a bottle into a pint glass. Poured with virtually zero head. A mostly opaque brown fluid, lifting this to my face for the first time produced a whiff of I don't know what. Was almost, herbal. The first taste was the third to last. I just can't do this one. Yuck. (408 characters)

Photo of HosP
2.64/5  rDev -31.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Poured 12oz into pint glass. First taste of Flying Monkeys.

A- Pours very dark. Light comes in around the edges to reveal dark amber colors. Creamy off white head, recedes down to a nice cap on the beer.

S- Not as much to the aroma as I'd like. Slight piney hop aroma. Mixed in are some roasted malts, subtle caramel hints.

T- Again like the nose, would like the flavors to come out more. Hops come out first with some citrus, piney flavors. Citrus hop come through a tad more. Malts come out at the end. Roasted coffee flavors mostly. Again flavors are very subdued.

M- Close to being lighter in body. Lots of carbonation in the mouth.

D- If the flavors were a little more powerful, this would be a nice black IPA. Compared to others, this is my least favorite. Don't know if this may be a little older, would like to try a fresh one to see if I get a different feel. (875 characters)

Photo of thebhoy
2.86/5  rDev -25.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured from 33cl bottle into Delirium Tremens tulip.

Colour is dark brown with hints of ruby in light.

Aroma is top-heavy with citrus, and though some cocoa and maltiness comes through on the tail, I fear already that this will be a very one-dimensional brew (not unlike Hoptical Illusion)

Taste confirms fear, and citrus notes become almost overwhelming as it warms, hint of resin lingers on back of palette for a long time.

Mouthfeel is average for the style, though does leave much to be desired on the tail. I'd even go so far as to say that it gets a bit watery and thin as the citrus blast subsides.

Overall, much like their hoptical illusion, this beer seems to be in two minds, and is rendered mediocre accordingly. The hop characteristics are certainly interesting, but with the lack of supporting characters, are almost offputting in their solo role. For this reason, despite the style, I found this beer to be more sessional than their lower abv hoptical illusion.

This beer has potential, and some stronger malts would definitely round out the hop character and add complexity. Regarding the good reviews amassed, I find myself questioning their origin: objectivity or optimism. (1,197 characters)

Photo of Intrinsic
3.03/5  rDev -21.1%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Frankly I´m a little surprised by the high scores on this beer. The very first thing I noticed was how much it looks like I just poured a glass of Coke. Just about the same colour and the head is spot on.

However, I had very high hopes when I smelled the bitter cascade hops infused into this brew. The hints of spice and burnt sugar piqued my interest so I dove right in...

And nothing. My expectations dashed, I quickly tried to piece together exactly what was bothering me about the taste. Everything you´d expect from a stout was there except for the full body. The sweetness seemed burnt away, like the edge of a baked treat that stayed in the oven too long. But the coffee was what really stood out, and unfortunately it doesn´t mix well with hops.

This beer has above average creaminess and feels quite good in the mouth despite its apparent lack of carbonation.

I´m sure this beer will appeal to a large number of people, but I´m not one of them. The marriage of coffee and hops wasn´t meant to be - in my stomach. (1,032 characters)

Photo of paxkey
3.34/5  rDev -13%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

paired with some smoked fish. pours dark and thick with a thin brown head. some lacing.

smells like cocoa. quite delicious smelling.

some aftertaste. buttered popcorn, popcorn shell burnt taste. peppery.

kind of on the line with this one. some further tasting is in order. (275 characters)

Photo of Ralphus
3.4/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I am not sold on the idea of Black IPA / Cascadian Ales.. its always seemed like a forced marriage to me. Since when has coffee and or chocolate gone well with citrus fruits? You know what this grapefruit needs? Some chocolate! Yea.. of course it does. That said I have had a number of them and this one is, style wise, decent enough and a very bold move for an Ontario brewery.

Pours black with a head that quickly recedes leaving some lacing behind. The smell is a bit hard to track down.. alternating between chocalate/coffee and the grapefruit hops.

And the taste has similar attributes.. part malty chocolate / coffee finished up with some decent IPA style hops. Sweetness is minimal and bitterness is emphasized here.

Mouthfeel is light but not very smooth.
Drinkability is average. (794 characters)

Photo of kjyost
3.43/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

355 mL bottle poured into a sleeve. An undated bottle, though purchased within a week of being put on the shelves at the MLCC.

A: Deep brown and virtually opaque with a tan head that laces well.
S: Seducing roasted malts with tons of chocolate, cocoa and coffee notes with a light bit of grapefruit from the hops in behind it. Clearly this is a so called Black IPA that leans more to the hoppy porter realm of the spectrum.
T: A mixed bag. There are some moments where the beer is delectable. A sharp bitter bite that plays with a caramel sweetness with a little bit of coffee an d roasted malts in there. Surprisingly, the hops (although very evident) are a secondary player in the flavour game. Citrusy hops are evident though the roasted flavours come through first. The mixed bag though is that there are a few mouthfuls where and acrid roasted notes through, reminding me of chewing on charcoal. If this had occurred more often, this beer would easily have been a drain pour. Those mouthfuls were disgusting...
M: As above. At times acrid, bitter and sweet.
O: With the exception of those 10-12 sips of charcoal, a good beer I would have liked to try again, save my fear of the burnt flavour... (1,200 characters)

Photo of slitherySOB
3.45/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a dark brown colour with about two fingers of an offwhite head that disipates rathery quickly. Smells of cocoa, earthy/citrus hops, roasted malt, coffee and sweet molasses. The taste follows the smell with chocolate and cocoa. Reminds me a bit of a stout. Little bit of coffee bitterness. Some caramel and malt sweetness. Bitter, earthy and citrus hops. Slightly grassy aftertaste. Roasted, bready malts and a bit of nuttyness. Medium light, carbonated, dry mouthfeel. Definitly worth having again. (504 characters)

Photo of MasterSki
3.48/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle from peensteen. Served in a CCBW pint glass.

A - A finger and a half of dark tan creamy foam that has very good retention. Body is dark brown at first blush, but reveals transparency and some raisin coloration when held to the light. Splotchy lace lingers on the sides of the glass.

S - Smells good too - roasted malts, molasses, light coffee, and chocolate mingle with some floral and piney hops.

T - Hmmm. Very bitter, chalky, and astringent. Sweetness is largely gone, and what remains is herbs, pine, and stale coffee. There's a faint kiss of vanilla at the tip of the tongue but it's gone in a flash. Not my cup of tea.

M - Somewhat watery, medium-light body, moderate carbonation tingle, and a dry roasty finish. Texture is smooth and pleasant, and alcohol isn't present.

D - I much prefer Smashbomb to this offering. A little more sugar would have gone a long way as the bitterness and astringency gets fatiguing. I struggled a little with my 12oz bottle and don't think I could have had another. (1,015 characters)

Photo of titvs
3.5/5  rDev -8.9%

Review according to BJCP2008 (style 14B - adapted). Bottle 35.5cl - Batch ?. AROMA: nice hop aroma with citrusy, floral, resinous and pine notes. low malty background. APPEARANCE: dark ruby color with light brown, creamy, persistant head. clear. TASTE: high hop flavour with floral and piney notes. low malt flavour with slight coffee notes in the aftertaste. High bitterness that lingers into the aftertaste. PALATE: medium-low body with medium carbonation. No astringency. OVERALL: a nice IPA derived beer. maybe should have more roasted flavours and flavours. (562 characters)

Photo of CalgaryFMC
3.53/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Pours a nice brownish black with about three fingers of mocha head. Aroma is very malty, chocolate, coffee, with a little cream or vanilla sweetness and a dash of citrus hops. Taste is again malts forward, a well-integrated blend of creamy coffee, chocolate, a nutty bitterness. Hops are second place to the malts, does not taste like an IPA but more like a well-bittered and refreshing dunkel with more floral and leafy aromatics. I taste little citrus but its lurking in there somewhere. Very dry finish and a crisp refreshing character to go with the dark roasty malts. Only had one bottle in my possession and would welcome another. (636 characters)

Photo of leaddog
3.54/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - Pours a dark ruby brown with a finger width of beige head.

Smell - Leafy and piney hops, coffee bean, roasted malts, hint of vanilla bean.

Taste - Bold roasted flavours of malts and coffee bean up front, along with the hops and hint of vanilla. Roasted flavour lingers in the aftertaste.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied with moderate carbonation.

Overall - An interesting take on the Cascadian by adding so much roasted/coffee bean character to it. A bit malt heavy and I would like to taste more hops in this. (522 characters)

Photo of papat444
3.58/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Sampled this at Le Mondial yesterday.

Poured from a 341ml. bottle.

Appearance: A nice brown-black bodywith a slightly tan head.

Smell: Roasted aroma with some hops though no bitterness shines through.

Taste: Roasted but not aggressive. Hops are present but more in the form of orange fruit notes.

Mouthfeel: A full body with decent carbonation and quite pleasant.

Overall: A nice stab at the style but i would have liked a bit more hops. Still worth a try though. (470 characters)

Photo of StoutHunter
3.59/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I picked up a bottle of Flying Monkeys Netherworld Cascadian Dark Ale last week for $2.19 at The Lager Mill. This one caught my eye while I was looking for some new beer to try and I'm interested to see how it turns out, so lets see how it goes. No visible bottling date. Poured from a brown 12oz bottle into a imperial pint glass.

A- The label looks really nice, it's got a great design to it and it's very eye catching. It poured a darker brown color that took on more of crimson color when held to the light with one and a half fingers worth of creamy and bubbly medium tan head that died down to a thin ring that stayed till the end and it left some sticky and patchy lacing behind. This is a good looking beer, I have no complaints at all.

S- The aroma starts off with a medium amount of sweetness with the hops being the first to show up and they impart a nice mixture of citrus rind, grassy and floral hops aromas with no single hoppy aspect seeming to stick out the most. Up next comes a slight doughy aroma that goes right into the malts which impart some nice roasted malt aromas along with some grainy and light sweet malt aroma. This beer has a pretty nice aroma and it's what I would expect from the style.

T- The taste seems to be similar to the aroma, but it's lighter and it starts off with a lower amount of sweetness with malts being the first to show up this time and they impart impart the same roasted malt and grainy aspects that they did in the aroma, but they are just a little lighter. Up next comes a slight bit of doughy yeast which leads into the hops which impart the exacts same aspects that they did in the aroma, but it's a little lighter this time. On the finish there's a medium amount of bitterness that lingers just for a little bit with a pretty hoppy and slightly roasted aftertaste. This is a nice tasting Black IPA, but i wish the taste was more like the aroma.

M- Fairly smooth, a little crisp, pretty dry on the finish, on the very light side of being medium bodied with a medium amount of carbonation. This beer had a nice mouthfeel, but I wish it was a little smoother.

Overall I thought this was a nice beer and nice Black IPA, it had almost all the aspects that I look for in the style, but in the end I wanted a little more out of it, the aroma was pretty nice and true to style, but when I got to the taste all the aspects seemed noticeably lighter than they were in the aroma and I wasn't a big fan of that. This beer had ok drinkability, it's fairly smooth, a little crisp, pretty dry on the finish, not filling and the taste doesn't do the best job at holding my attention, I think one is enough for me since I don't really have the urge to drink another one in a row. What I like the most about this beer was the appearance, it's a good looking Black IPA. What I liked the least about this beer was the taste, I just wish it was bolder. I wouldn't buy this beer again, but I might try it again if I knew it was really fresh. I can't say I would recommend it, but if you really like the style then it might be worth a try. All in all I thought this was a solid Black IPA, but nothing stood out about it and I didn't find it to be too memorable. It's not a favorite Flying Monkeys beer and it's very average for the style. Nice job guys, but with some work i think this could be a pretty nice Black IPA. (3,381 characters)

Photo of chinchill
3.6/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle in Columbus Ohio.
Pours dark but clear mahogany with a durable tan head.
Mild malty aroma strengthens with warming. A faint hint of spices.
Flavor: about equal doses of hops and malts. The malts have sweet, toffee and dark roasted grain aspects.

O: recommended. (280 characters)

Photo of ritzkiss
3.61/5  rDev -6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

12oz from the LCBO, pours a dark brown with garnet highlights, a couple fingers of tan head die down to a few whisps which leave patches of lacing down the glass.

Nose is a little bland, citrus hops, cold coffee, roast malts, hints of butter. Sessionable, competent ale.. this time - I've had some bad bottles. Roasted malts, coffee, hints of anise, pine and citrus hops, moderate bitterness in the finish. A little on the thin side, could use some malt complexity and depth to balance out the finish. Pleasant enough and the only of its kind in the LCBO. (556 characters)

Photo of mrmanning
3.68/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Chancey Smith's- Thanks for getting this on Milos!- A very deep brown that only lets a bit of light in. Comes topped with a very generous mocha froth that lasted the entire length I drank the beer. Interesting nose is slightly roasty, with fresh leafy hops, citrus, a bit of pine, and vanilla. Tastes interesting. Only slightly of roasted malts and then come the fresh hops, pine, mint. There is some soft fruit towards the end with a bit of oak. Medium bodied. Very much a cross style. Very good job Peter! (517 characters)

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.7/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a clear dark color ale with a medium size foamy head with good retention and minimal lacing. Aroma of bitter and citrus hops with light roasted malt notes. Taste is a lot more bitter and citrusy then most other Ontario beer out there. Body is halfway full with good carbonation. Well brewed and not something I would avoid revisiting in the near future. (368 characters)

Photo of biboergosum
3.73/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A 20oz pint, on-tap at Volo Cafe, on my anniversary with my very understanding and game better half.

This beer appears a clear, very dark reddish brown hue, with distributed mahogany highlights, and one finger of weakly foamy, creamy beige head, which leaves a partial wall of trickling waterfall lace around the glass in its slow retreat.

It smells of toasted, meaty caramel malt, roasted coffee beans, bittersweet chocolate, slightly warm vanilla, and leafy, earthy hops. The taste is heady roasted bready caramel malt, cocoa powder, a bit of licorice-laced black coffee, mild citrus cream, and some grassy, earthy hops.

The carbonation is moderate, just softly frothy, the body surprisingly on the light side of medium weight, and more or less smooth. It finishes on a drying trend, but with some chocolate caramel offsets.

A decent enough, rather tasty porter, approaching, but not quite reaching, the dessert horizon, as the snow falls on slushy Yonge Street, and our long, oft derailed traipse back to the hotel. (1,024 characters)

Photo of Stinkypuss
3.74/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Pours a dark brown with a rocky, tan colored head. Good retention and lacework, the beer appears like a hopped up black ale. Aroma of cascade hops, some citrus and semi tropical west coast elements from other strains are available also in the smell. The taste is firmly bitter with just enough roast to counter act. Really nice execution, strong hop flavor and oily resins left on the palate. Full bodied with ample carbonation and slight creaminess before the drying hop bite sets in. Pine and grapefruit with coffee and pinch of cocoa. Hoppy and well rounded, this was a very good beer. (594 characters)

Photo of Sammy
3.75/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Volo 2009 Cask Fest. Cross-style, it is a well-hopped porter. Stouty, there is mollasses. Citrus hops. Pours dark with a soapy head. A complex tasting,one sip is more porter, another more roast, another hoppier and one worth having again.This brewer is delivering interesting and hoppy new beers. (296 characters)

Photo of
3.76/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance - pours dark brown with ruby tints and topped by 5 cm of dense tan-coloured head that lasts for quite a while.

Smell - lots of roasty malt aromas - chocolate malt and coffee - and a noticeable citric hoppiness - lemon - breaking through the dark malt.

Taste - Deep roasted malt flavours of chocolate, coffee and toffee blend well with assertive hops. The aftertaste is mildly bitter with a deep lingering coffee flavour. (433 characters)

Photo of peensteen
3.77/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled Oct.11/2011. Could have sworn I reviewed this before but I guess not.

Deep brown, ruby highlights, one finger of tan head sticky with some lace. Smell is of coffee and chocolate, citrus and lots of roasted malts, fairly hoppy with bittersweet notes. Lots of hops and citrus up front followed by roasted malt, very chocolatey, coffee, bittersweet bakers chocolate, lots of grapefruit and tangerine in the finish with some pine. Medium lively carbonation, full body, some good hop oil feel, nice weight. This is pretty good, nice mix of hops and roast, this was far better than I remember it being don't know if it was a recipe tweak or the freshness that made this a solid drinker, will revisit this from time to time gladly. (733 characters)

Photo of Brenden
3.79/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

This beer is quite close to black, completely opaque though not with a heavy body. The head is a solid brown one a full finger in height with good retention, thick and fluffy. Lacing is sturdy ad fairly thick as well with some good stick.
The smell is primarily hoppy with lots of raw leaf, citrus and wood. A bit of roast is in there, but not to the fullest effect.
The taste follows with a bit more dry cocoa into the finish, but it also develops a very slight astringency as it goes. It actually fits fairly well, and never gets too harsh, but it's just a bit noticeable.
The body is medium with a good mix of crisp brightness and roasty, powdery dryness. It has a nice creaminess rolling through that adds a lot of sweetness. (736 characters)

Photo of Antikythera
3.8/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pretty, pretty label. The goth in me is going squee.

A: dark, with a milky-coffee-coloured head. Very dark. If I hold it up to the light I see a refracted rim of red at the bottom of the glass, and that's it. Nothing else gets through. Nerd humour time: there's an equation in astrophysics called Beer's Law. It has to do with how much light is transmitted through stuff. Fun fact.

S: Iron. Protein? Yummy. Malty and nutty.

T: caramel and smoke, but not sweet. Almost more bitterness than I like. I've never had this hoppy fruity flavour from such a dark beer before. The caramel goes away and the smoke comes out as the glass warms up.

M: rich, creamy. A tiny bit of fizzy tang that goes away fast.

O: really nice. Maybe a little too bitter for me, but I'd drink it again.

NOTE: Now I really understand what 'lacing' means. The beer is gone but my glass looks like an old brown doily. (892 characters)

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