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Flying Monkeys Netherworld Cascadian Dark Ale - Flying Monkeys Craft Brewery

Flying Monkeys Netherworld Cascadian Dark AleFlying Monkeys Netherworld Cascadian Dark Ale

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BA SCORE
86
very good

124 Ratings
THE BROS
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no score

(send 'em beer!)
Ratings: 124
Reviews: 67
rAvg: 3.82
pDev: 10.47%


Brewed by:
Flying Monkeys Craft Brewery visit their website
Ontario, Canada

Style | ABV
American Black Ale |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
Formerly known as Flying Monkeys Netherworld India Pale Porter.

35 IBU

(Beer added by: Sammy on 11-01-2009)
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Retail1LO

Pennsylvania

1.78/5  rDev -53.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

Got this as an extra in a trade with a BA in Nova Scotia for some Peche Mortel. Truthfully, I'd rather be drinking Peche Mortel. Poured this from a bottle into a pint glass. Poured with virtually zero head. A mostly opaque brown fluid, lifting this to my face for the first time produced a whiff of I don't know what. Was almost, herbal. The first taste was the third to last. I just can't do this one. Yuck.

Serving type: bottle

08-17-2011 00:57:51 | More by Retail1LO
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HosP

Indiana

2.63/5  rDev -31.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Poured 12oz into pint glass. First taste of Flying Monkeys.

A- Pours very dark. Light comes in around the edges to reveal dark amber colors. Creamy off white head, recedes down to a nice cap on the beer.

S- Not as much to the aroma as I'd like. Slight piney hop aroma. Mixed in are some roasted malts, subtle caramel hints.

T- Again like the nose, would like the flavors to come out more. Hops come out first with some citrus, piney flavors. Citrus hop come through a tad more. Malts come out at the end. Roasted coffee flavors mostly. Again flavors are very subdued.

M- Close to being lighter in body. Lots of carbonation in the mouth.

D- If the flavors were a little more powerful, this would be a nice black IPA. Compared to others, this is my least favorite. Don't know if this may be a little older, would like to try a fresh one to see if I get a different feel.

Serving type: bottle

03-17-2011 02:43:59 | More by HosP
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thebhoy

Ontario (Canada)

2.8/5  rDev -26.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured from 33cl bottle into Delirium Tremens tulip.

Colour is dark brown with hints of ruby in light.

Aroma is top-heavy with citrus, and though some cocoa and maltiness comes through on the tail, I fear already that this will be a very one-dimensional brew (not unlike Hoptical Illusion)

Taste confirms fear, and citrus notes become almost overwhelming as it warms, hint of resin lingers on back of palette for a long time.

Mouthfeel is average for the style, though does leave much to be desired on the tail. I'd even go so far as to say that it gets a bit watery and thin as the citrus blast subsides.

Overall, much like their hoptical illusion, this beer seems to be in two minds, and is rendered mediocre accordingly. The hop characteristics are certainly interesting, but with the lack of supporting characters, are almost offputting in their solo role. For this reason, despite the style, I found this beer to be more sessional than their lower abv hoptical illusion.

This beer has potential, and some stronger malts would definitely round out the hop character and add complexity. Regarding the good reviews amassed, I find myself questioning their origin: objectivity or optimism.

Serving type: bottle

12-08-2010 01:29:19 | More by thebhoy
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Intrinsic

Germany

2.98/5  rDev -22%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Frankly I´m a little surprised by the high scores on this beer. The very first thing I noticed was how much it looks like I just poured a glass of Coke. Just about the same colour and the head is spot on.

However, I had very high hopes when I smelled the bitter cascade hops infused into this brew. The hints of spice and burnt sugar piqued my interest so I dove right in...

And nothing. My expectations dashed, I quickly tried to piece together exactly what was bothering me about the taste. Everything you´d expect from a stout was there except for the full body. The sweetness seemed burnt away, like the edge of a baked treat that stayed in the oven too long. But the coffee was what really stood out, and unfortunately it doesn´t mix well with hops.

This beer has above average creaminess and feels quite good in the mouth despite its apparent lack of carbonation.

I´m sure this beer will appeal to a large number of people, but I´m not one of them. The marriage of coffee and hops wasn´t meant to be - in my stomach.

Serving type: bottle

01-25-2011 02:56:45 | More by Intrinsic
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paxkey

Ontario (Canada)

3.3/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

paired with some smoked fish. pours dark and thick with a thin brown head. some lacing.

smells like cocoa. quite delicious smelling.

some aftertaste. buttered popcorn, popcorn shell burnt taste. peppery.

kind of on the line with this one. some further tasting is in order.

Serving type: bottle

12-03-2010 03:12:38 | More by paxkey
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kjyost

Manitoba (Canada)

3.38/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

355 mL bottle poured into a sleeve. An undated bottle, though purchased within a week of being put on the shelves at the MLCC.

A: Deep brown and virtually opaque with a tan head that laces well.
S: Seducing roasted malts with tons of chocolate, cocoa and coffee notes with a light bit of grapefruit from the hops in behind it. Clearly this is a so called Black IPA that leans more to the hoppy porter realm of the spectrum.
T: A mixed bag. There are some moments where the beer is delectable. A sharp bitter bite that plays with a caramel sweetness with a little bit of coffee an d roasted malts in there. Surprisingly, the hops (although very evident) are a secondary player in the flavour game. Citrusy hops are evident though the roasted flavours come through first. The mixed bag though is that there are a few mouthfuls where and acrid roasted notes through, reminding me of chewing on charcoal. If this had occurred more often, this beer would easily have been a drain pour. Those mouthfuls were disgusting...
M: As above. At times acrid, bitter and sweet.
O: With the exception of those 10-12 sips of charcoal, a good beer I would have liked to try again, save my fear of the burnt flavour...

Serving type: bottle

10-25-2011 21:34:03 | More by kjyost
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Ralphus

Ontario (Canada)

3.4/5  rDev -11%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I am not sold on the idea of Black IPA / Cascadian Ales.. its always seemed like a forced marriage to me. Since when has coffee and or chocolate gone well with citrus fruits? You know what this grapefruit needs? Some chocolate! Yea.. of course it does. That said I have had a number of them and this one is, style wise, decent enough and a very bold move for an Ontario brewery.

Pours black with a head that quickly recedes leaving some lacing behind. The smell is a bit hard to track down.. alternating between chocalate/coffee and the grapefruit hops.

And the taste has similar attributes.. part malty chocolate / coffee finished up with some decent IPA style hops. Sweetness is minimal and bitterness is emphasized here.

Mouthfeel is light but not very smooth.
Drinkability is average.

Serving type: bottle

12-24-2010 22:40:20 | More by Ralphus
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MasterSki

Illinois

3.43/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle from peensteen. Served in a CCBW pint glass.

A - A finger and a half of dark tan creamy foam that has very good retention. Body is dark brown at first blush, but reveals transparency and some raisin coloration when held to the light. Splotchy lace lingers on the sides of the glass.

S - Smells good too - roasted malts, molasses, light coffee, and chocolate mingle with some floral and piney hops.

T - Hmmm. Very bitter, chalky, and astringent. Sweetness is largely gone, and what remains is herbs, pine, and stale coffee. There's a faint kiss of vanilla at the tip of the tongue but it's gone in a flash. Not my cup of tea.

M - Somewhat watery, medium-light body, moderate carbonation tingle, and a dry roasty finish. Texture is smooth and pleasant, and alcohol isn't present.

D - I much prefer Smashbomb to this offering. A little more sugar would have gone a long way as the bitterness and astringency gets fatiguing. I struggled a little with my 12oz bottle and don't think I could have had another.

Serving type: bottle

06-17-2011 19:03:42 | More by MasterSki
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slitherySOB

Ontario (Canada)

3.48/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a dark brown colour with about two fingers of an offwhite head that disipates rathery quickly. Smells of cocoa, earthy/citrus hops, roasted malt, coffee and sweet molasses. The taste follows the smell with chocolate and cocoa. Reminds me a bit of a stout. Little bit of coffee bitterness. Some caramel and malt sweetness. Bitter, earthy and citrus hops. Slightly grassy aftertaste. Roasted, bready malts and a bit of nuttyness. Medium light, carbonated, dry mouthfeel. Definitly worth having again.

Serving type: bottle

09-12-2012 14:17:42 | More by slitherySOB
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CalgaryFMC

Alberta (Canada)

3.53/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Pours a nice brownish black with about three fingers of mocha head. Aroma is very malty, chocolate, coffee, with a little cream or vanilla sweetness and a dash of citrus hops. Taste is again malts forward, a well-integrated blend of creamy coffee, chocolate, a nutty bitterness. Hops are second place to the malts, does not taste like an IPA but more like a well-bittered and refreshing dunkel with more floral and leafy aromatics. I taste little citrus but its lurking in there somewhere. Very dry finish and a crisp refreshing character to go with the dark roasty malts. Only had one bottle in my possession and would welcome another.

Serving type: bottle

08-28-2013 03:07:03 | More by CalgaryFMC
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leaddog

Alberta (Canada)

3.54/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - Pours a dark ruby brown with a finger width of beige head.

Smell - Leafy and piney hops, coffee bean, roasted malts, hint of vanilla bean.

Taste - Bold roasted flavours of malts and coffee bean up front, along with the hops and hint of vanilla. Roasted flavour lingers in the aftertaste.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied with moderate carbonation.

Overall - An interesting take on the Cascadian by adding so much roasted/coffee bean character to it. A bit malt heavy and I would like to taste more hops in this.

Serving type: bottle

07-02-2013 03:47:46 | More by leaddog
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papat444

Quebec (Canada)

3.58/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Sampled this at Le Mondial yesterday.

Poured from a 341ml. bottle.

Appearance: A nice brown-black bodywith a slightly tan head.

Smell: Roasted aroma with some hops though no bitterness shines through.

Taste: Roasted but not aggressive. Hops are present but more in the form of orange fruit notes.

Mouthfeel: A full body with decent carbonation and quite pleasant.

Overall: A nice stab at the style but i would have liked a bit more hops. Still worth a try though.

Serving type: bottle

06-12-2011 12:01:01 | More by papat444
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ritzkiss

Ontario (Canada)

3.6/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

12oz from the LCBO, pours a dark brown with garnet highlights, a couple fingers of tan head die down to a few whisps which leave patches of lacing down the glass.

Nose is a little bland, citrus hops, cold coffee, roast malts, hints of butter. Sessionable, competent ale.. this time - I've had some bad bottles. Roasted malts, coffee, hints of anise, pine and citrus hops, moderate bitterness in the finish. A little on the thin side, could use some malt complexity and depth to balance out the finish. Pleasant enough and the only of its kind in the LCBO.

Serving type: bottle

03-14-2011 02:58:11 | More by ritzkiss
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mrmanning

Ontario (Canada)

3.68/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Chancey Smith's- Thanks for getting this on Milos!- A very deep brown that only lets a bit of light in. Comes topped with a very generous mocha froth that lasted the entire length I drank the beer. Interesting nose is slightly roasty, with fresh leafy hops, citrus, a bit of pine, and vanilla. Tastes interesting. Only slightly of roasted malts and then come the fresh hops, pine, mint. There is some soft fruit towards the end with a bit of oak. Medium bodied. Very much a cross style. Very good job Peter!

Serving type: on-tap

12-05-2009 16:19:27 | More by mrmanning
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Sammy

Ontario (Canada)

3.73/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Volo 2009 Cask Fest. Cross-style, it is a well-hopped porter. Stouty, there is mollasses. Citrus hops. Pours dark with a soapy head. A complex tasting,one sip is more porter, another more roast, another hoppier and one worth having again.This brewer is delivering interesting and hoppy new beers.

Serving type: cask

11-01-2009 13:32:47 | More by Sammy
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Phyl21ca

Quebec (Canada)

3.73/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a clear dark color ale with a medium size foamy head with good retention and minimal lacing. Aroma of bitter and citrus hops with light roasted malt notes. Taste is a lot more bitter and citrusy then most other Ontario beer out there. Body is halfway full with good carbonation. Well brewed and not something I would avoid revisiting in the near future.

Serving type: bottle

03-03-2011 03:39:30 | More by Phyl21ca
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biboergosum

Alberta (Canada)

3.75/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A 20oz pint, on-tap at Volo Cafe, on my anniversary with my very understanding and game better half.

This beer appears a clear, very dark reddish brown hue, with distributed mahogany highlights, and one finger of weakly foamy, creamy beige head, which leaves a partial wall of trickling waterfall lace around the glass in its slow retreat.

It smells of toasted, meaty caramel malt, roasted coffee beans, bittersweet chocolate, slightly warm vanilla, and leafy, earthy hops. The taste is heady roasted bready caramel malt, cocoa powder, a bit of licorice-laced black coffee, mild citrus cream, and some grassy, earthy hops.

The carbonation is moderate, just softly frothy, the body surprisingly on the light side of medium weight, and more or less smooth. It finishes on a drying trend, but with some chocolate caramel offsets.

A decent enough, rather tasty porter, approaching, but not quite reaching, the dessert horizon, as the snow falls on slushy Yonge Street, and our long, oft derailed traipse back to the hotel.

Serving type: on-tap

02-05-2010 22:55:17 | More by biboergosum
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peensteen

Ontario (Canada)

3.75/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled Oct.11/2011. Could have sworn I reviewed this before but I guess not.

Deep brown, ruby highlights, one finger of tan head sticky with some lace. Smell is of coffee and chocolate, citrus and lots of roasted malts, fairly hoppy with bittersweet notes. Lots of hops and citrus up front followed by roasted malt, very chocolatey, coffee, bittersweet bakers chocolate, lots of grapefruit and tangerine in the finish with some pine. Medium lively carbonation, full body, some good hop oil feel, nice weight. This is pretty good, nice mix of hops and roast, this was far better than I remember it being don't know if it was a recipe tweak or the freshness that made this a solid drinker, will revisit this from time to time gladly.

Serving type: bottle

10-20-2011 19:16:58 | More by peensteen
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Antikythera

New York

3.78/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pretty, pretty label. The goth in me is going squee.

A: dark, with a milky-coffee-coloured head. Very dark. If I hold it up to the light I see a refracted rim of red at the bottom of the glass, and that's it. Nothing else gets through. Nerd humour time: there's an equation in astrophysics called Beer's Law. It has to do with how much light is transmitted through stuff. Fun fact.

S: Iron. Protein? Yummy. Malty and nutty.

T: caramel and smoke, but not sweet. Almost more bitterness than I like. I've never had this hoppy fruity flavour from such a dark beer before. The caramel goes away and the smoke comes out as the glass warms up.

M: rich, creamy. A tiny bit of fizzy tang that goes away fast.

O: really nice. Maybe a little too bitter for me, but I'd drink it again.

NOTE: Now I really understand what 'lacing' means. The beer is gone but my glass looks like an old brown doily.

Serving type: bottle

09-22-2011 23:30:52 | More by Antikythera
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3.8/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance - pours dark brown with ruby tints and topped by 5 cm of dense tan-coloured head that lasts for quite a while.

Smell - lots of roasty malt aromas - chocolate malt and coffee - and a noticeable citric hoppiness - lemon - breaking through the dark malt.

Taste - Deep roasted malt flavours of chocolate, coffee and toffee blend well with assertive hops. The aftertaste is mildly bitter with a deep lingering coffee flavour.

Serving type: bottle

05-15-2011 22:55:39 | More by
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Noxious26

Saskatchewan (Canada)

3.81/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

355ml brown bottle poured in a pint glass. Purchased from Zyn in Calgary.

Light brown head is 1 inch on the pour. Recedes to a thick cap with gobs of lacing down the sides. Dark Brown, cola in appearance.

Roasty coffee notes. Roasted and burnt malts. Flowery and citrus hops in the background.

Roasty malt flavours up front. Hints of burnt malt, coffee, chocolate, toffee with just a hint of hops in the background.

Light-Medium bodied. A little thin for what I was expecting. Lightly carbonated.

An easy drinking brew. It could use a little more hops to give it some bite and balance. Not the best I've had, but all in all a good effort.

Serving type: bottle

12-13-2013 01:57:32 | More by Noxious26
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GodOfBeer

Ontario (Canada)

3.83/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark chestnut brown with a reddish tinge. Very nice brownish-white head with lots of lacing.

Smells of wonderful flowery hops, some citrus zest and dark roasty malts.

Upon trying this beer again further down the road, it's actually better than I remember it being. Some nice roasty, caramel and chocolatey malts upfront. Sort of a thin body but the hops kick in with a nice finish, nice and bitter.

Rather thin mouthfeel, but decently carbonated. This is a very good black IPA and very drinkable. Definately better than Hoptical Illusion!

Serving type: bottle

12-22-2010 01:55:43 | More by GodOfBeer
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Kartoffeln

Ontario (Canada)

3.83/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A: Pours russet-tinged black, opaque with a nice, sizeable head of dense dark tan foam. Good retention, gradually dissipating to patches of frothy tan foam and leaving some lacing.

S: Grapefruity Cascade hops dominate the nose with some floral backing, black coffee, and biscuit and roasted malts rounded out by hints of butteriness, black molasses, and cocoa.

T: Cascade hops throughout as expected, with slightly sweet biscuit and roasted malts with a strong black coffee character. Sharply piney hops (probably Chinook) towards the end with another burst of Cascade grapefruit.

M: Medium-bodied with smooth, pinprick carbonation and some chewiness. I know that the hoppiness is entirely to-style, but it throws out any semblance of balance and feels excessively astringent.

D: High quality example of this style, but not personally my thing so I'll err on the side of generosity. I've just never gotten the appeal of these American ale styles that are just English ale styles loaded with citric American hops. If you like that, though, grab this brew ASAP.

Serving type: bottle

10-24-2011 21:25:05 | More by Kartoffeln
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JohnnyBarman

Ontario (Canada)

3.85/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at the Kitchener Craft Beer and Ribs festival. My first sampler of the day; I was hoping to see if their IPA would be available, but was also pleased to see this new offering.

Poured into my 6oz festival sampler glass. A rich, chocolate brown brew, chestnut when held to the light. A thick, foamy tan head sat resplendantly on top, leaving a good deal of lace. Looks a great deal like a porter should.

Nose was notes of molasses, cream, marshmallows, roasted malts, citrussy hops. Strange blend, but it works.

This brew had a lot going on, so I can't really say a 6oz sample was large enough to fully appreciate it, but I must say that this was one intriguing brew. About three different taste styles competed for my attentions: the roasted malt and coffee-chocolate notes of a porter; the citrussy hops and body of an IPA; and an overall lemon sour dark ale character that reminded me greatly of a Munich Dunkel. I'm not sure if it all worked well together, but I certainly enjoyed it. A great deal of thought went into this brew, which I appreciated.

Creamy mouthfeel, slightly thin for a porter, but definitely within range.

Despite my still questioning the brewery's renaming, I must say the lads at Monkeys have really stepped up their game since the Confederation Ale days. Glad to see some well hopped ales in the American style coming from this brewery. Definitely worth a go - hope to try a few bottles of this in the near future!

Serving type: on-tap

07-18-2010 19:52:14 | More by JohnnyBarman
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bobsy

Ontario (Canada)

3.85/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This beer has had a long evolution from the substandard iteration I had a year ago to its current bottled form.

Pours a deep brown, black in the core, but brown and ruby at the edges. A finger of light tan foam sets up shop and lingers for most of the drink, laying down some good streaks of lace. Juicy grapefruit aroma, with a prominent bitter chocolate backing. Perhaps some limited roast. Good, but could do with a bit more depth and complexity. Pleasant flavour bounces between grapefruit in one sip, and chocolate / light coffee roast in the next. Its an interesting take on the style, but lacking in intensity both on the hops and the roast, and while the bitterness is pleasant, it falls far short of even a regular IPA. Medium body and carbonation works well.

Pleasant and sessionable. I'd consider buying this a few times a year, but its not the miracle brew that some in the province would have you believe. Sure, its a good offering compared to many of the things made by local craft brewers, but that doesn't make it an outstanding example of the style. As an Ontario beer this gets a big thumbs up, but as a black IPA, its probably still one of the weakest examples I've had in spite of all its good points.

Huge kudos for actually trying this and getting it into the lcbo though.

Serving type: bottle

12-06-2010 02:54:59 | More by bobsy
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Flying Monkeys Netherworld Cascadian Dark Ale from Flying Monkeys Craft Brewery
86 out of 100 based on 124 ratings.