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Flying Monkeys Netherworld Cascadian Dark Ale - Flying Monkeys Craft Brewery

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BA SCORE
86
very good

133 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 133
Reviews: 68
rAvg: 3.83
pDev: 10.18%
Wants: 7
Gots: 8 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Flying Monkeys Craft Brewery visit their website
Ontario, Canada

Style | ABV
American Black Ale |  6.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
Formerly known as Flying Monkeys Netherworld India Pale Porter.

35 IBU

(Beer added by: Sammy on 11-01-2009)
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biegaman

Ontario (Canada)

4/5  rDev +4.4%

Netherworld doesn't at all look like the starless, shadowy black void its name might suggest, but rather has a worn-in brown leather kind of complexion that I'm thinking would look great as a sofa in my living room. It isn't close to opaque either; modest but accomplished highlights are stoked against the light. And its head is showing great vital signs.

These uber-hoppy dark ales - the good ones, anyhow - have an ambrosial aura that is rivaled only by that of fresh-baked cookies or a meat roast coming out of the oven. (In other words, I wouldn't hesitate to put it up there with my favourite foods.) Indeed, these malts smell like they spent some time in the kiln as they impart a sweet, nutty toast. And the hops, well...

Let me tell you! They bring a great vivacity to the beer: a piny brine, earthy leafiness and herbal pungency, all of which hit the senses with a lively and vivid zeal like that of fresh peppermint. A drop of citrus too. Their bitterness is well balanced in the body and most of their zest is retained in the aroma (which is not a bad place for it at all!)

While it isn't anywhere as thick as a porter, it is of a substantial weight and, depending on your appetite, has enough roasty and coffee-ish flavours to satisfy after one, or be continuously enjoyed several at a time. The hops chosen have a drying, pithy, incredibly piny linger that makes me want to suck my gums until they bleed. Delightful.

It's like in an Avatar-inspired moment, the Flying Monkeys brewery colonized an enchanted forest of elves and made them all start mining it for its magical pine serum and cocoa nibs. Imagine citric morning grapefruit combined with gritty coffee grinds. Sweet caramel chew combined with tobacco chew. Bitter herbal tea blended into hot chocolate.

Netherworld isn't really here nor there; in fact, it's kind of everywhere. It has plenty of sweet, nutty, roasty, chocolaty character to satisfy while simultaneously brimming with near-spicy, vivacious, enchanting hop flavours too. What else needs to be said? Brilliant! I'm elated to have this offering available locally and plan to keep buying more.

02-06-2011 18:18:15 | More by biegaman
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hopsolutely

Ontario (Canada)

4/5  rDev +4.4%

Not certain how to classify this beer, as different batches have suited everything from a black APA / IPA to a hoppy porter to the current "Cascadian dark"... Either way, a delightfully easy to drink beer!

Complex aroma and taste, with elements of burnt/smokey malts and coffee flavours plus roasted malt sweetness and a hoppy bitter finish. Earlier versions (before recipe finalized i.e. prior to LCBO consistency) had a greater hop emphasis, which would have been my own personal preference, but this is now a very approachable beer.

It should appeal to many differmnt audiences and congratulations to Flying Monkeys for once again giving the taste buds of "Ontario Beer Lovers" a chance to stretch.

02-05-2011 00:15:57 | More by hopsolutely
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WeedKing4

Ontario (Canada)

4.08/5  rDev +6.5%

Pours a dark black with a decent amount of foam in the Sam Adams perfect pint glass. Tastes of slight hop bitterness with a roasty like finish. Drinks down ok and the bitterness is alright for the most part. Could use a little more punch to the flavour though. Overall its a highly sessionable beer and perfect for going to a friends place for a day of drinking.

I have picked up quite a few more six packs since my first review. And this beer is growing on me. Its quite solid, and I like the little bit of roastyness and caramal taste it has in the finish. This has definately become my go to beer here in Ontario due to lack of options.

01-28-2011 05:07:45 | More by WeedKing4
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Intrinsic

Germany

2.98/5  rDev -22.2%

Frankly I´m a little surprised by the high scores on this beer. The very first thing I noticed was how much it looks like I just poured a glass of Coke. Just about the same colour and the head is spot on.

However, I had very high hopes when I smelled the bitter cascade hops infused into this brew. The hints of spice and burnt sugar piqued my interest so I dove right in...

And nothing. My expectations dashed, I quickly tried to piece together exactly what was bothering me about the taste. Everything you´d expect from a stout was there except for the full body. The sweetness seemed burnt away, like the edge of a baked treat that stayed in the oven too long. But the coffee was what really stood out, and unfortunately it doesn´t mix well with hops.

This beer has above average creaminess and feels quite good in the mouth despite its apparent lack of carbonation.

I´m sure this beer will appeal to a large number of people, but I´m not one of them. The marriage of coffee and hops wasn´t meant to be - in my stomach.

01-25-2011 02:56:45 | More by Intrinsic
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Matt1516

Quebec (Canada)

3.85/5  rDev +0.5%

Pours a dark-brownish-red, fluffy head that leaves lacing on the glass but dissipated quickly.

Smells of molasses and roasted malts.

Tastes of coffee bean and burnt brown sugar. Mild hop and citrus notes with a little carbonation. A dry, bitter finish. Very nice.

A nice dessert beer, seems more like a porter than a black ale. Would pair nice with dark chocolate, figs and sharp cheeses.

01-19-2011 04:17:52 | More by Matt1516
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ZorPrime

Quebec (Canada)

4.1/5  rDev +7%

Thanks to liamt07 for sending me this one. I wanted to try this.

Black color beer, very dark too. Almost like a stout, it doesn't look creamy as a stout. Brown head which sticks well to the glass. Aroma is hoppy like an IPA. Notes of pines and citrus, with some light notes of grapefruits. Some chocolate and roasted malts there too. Nice aroma, very inviting. Taste is very interesting... very good too. It starts piney and finish with roasted malts. Wow I like this and can't stop drinking. Medium body with a very well balanced taste and aroma. A very good beer in my book. Easy to drink. It would gain by being a little more creamy...

Well I like this beer a lot. Very well done.

01-16-2011 20:46:20 | More by ZorPrime
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allergictomacros

Ontario (Canada)

4/5  rDev +4.4%

A - Very dark, rich brew on the pour with a solid head.

S - Lots of roast - dark sugars, molasses, caramel in the nose with a hint of something hoppy.

T - Good round flavours. Sweet, but not too much. Roasty, but not too much. Hoppy, but not too much. Good balance. Caramel, anise, grapefruit.

M - Nice smooth feel. No hint of astringency and moderate carbonation.

D - I like this one a lot. Very drinkable, clean and still tasty.

01-13-2011 23:46:35 | More by allergictomacros
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bryehn

Ontario (Canada)

3.88/5  rDev +1.3%

Pours a cola-like dark ruby colour with a nice, creamy head not unlike a root beer float that leaves some nice, distinctly layered lacing.

Spicy aroma with syrupy and toasted malt tones and a generous helping of a crisp, grapefruit-like citrus.

The taste of Netherworld is malty and slightly sweet with syrup, coffee and toasted cocoa tones, as well as a subtle cherry or plum-like fruit flavour.

The beer is noticeably carbonated, but still a bit watery on the tongue, though there is a nice oily quality as well. The finish carries a nicely-balanced, solid bitterness and the aftertaste is slightly sweet and spicy with a soft banana note and a piny flavour.

A nice example of the style that has solid toasted and bitter characteristics, but maintains a certain brightness. Easy to drink a few on their own or with salty, spicy or fatty foods.

01-09-2011 19:59:10 | More by bryehn
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kwjd

Ontario (Canada)

4.25/5  rDev +11%

Somehow I haven't revieved this beer yet, even though I've had several pints of this. Had this on tap at C'est What. Pours a very dark brown colour with thin tan head. Nice lacing down the glass. Smells of a lot of roasted malt with some coffee, but with a big citrus hop kick. Nice bitterness balanced out with a sweet malt. Smooth carbonation level. This is one of my favourite CDA's, I'm glad it is local so I have access to it.

01-06-2011 21:08:23 | More by kwjd
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Ralphus

Ontario (Canada)

3.4/5  rDev -11.2%

I am not sold on the idea of Black IPA / Cascadian Ales.. its always seemed like a forced marriage to me. Since when has coffee and or chocolate gone well with citrus fruits? You know what this grapefruit needs? Some chocolate! Yea.. of course it does. That said I have had a number of them and this one is, style wise, decent enough and a very bold move for an Ontario brewery.

Pours black with a head that quickly recedes leaving some lacing behind. The smell is a bit hard to track down.. alternating between chocalate/coffee and the grapefruit hops.

And the taste has similar attributes.. part malty chocolate / coffee finished up with some decent IPA style hops. Sweetness is minimal and bitterness is emphasized here.

Mouthfeel is light but not very smooth.
Drinkability is average.

12-24-2010 22:40:20 | More by Ralphus
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fostachild

Ontario (Canada)

4.1/5  rDev +7%

pours a very dark brown colour with a hint of red that gives lots of tan head.

hops were very present in the smell which also had a roasted aroma - possibly coffee and/or chocolate.

taste also very hoppy yet has a porter/stout feel to it - quite delicious. good carbonation and drinkability. really impressed by this one and will definitely be picking up some more.

12-22-2010 04:42:12 | More by fostachild
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GodOfBeer

Ontario (Canada)

3.83/5  rDev 0%

Pours a dark chestnut brown with a reddish tinge. Very nice brownish-white head with lots of lacing.

Smells of wonderful flowery hops, some citrus zest and dark roasty malts.

Upon trying this beer again further down the road, it's actually better than I remember it being. Some nice roasty, caramel and chocolatey malts upfront. Sort of a thin body but the hops kick in with a nice finish, nice and bitter.

Rather thin mouthfeel, but decently carbonated. This is a very good black IPA and very drinkable. Definately better than Hoptical Illusion!

12-22-2010 01:55:43 | More by GodOfBeer
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spinrsx

Ontario (Canada)

3.95/5  rDev +3.1%

12oz Bottle

Appearance - The beer pours a dark brown/black colour with a very large frothy beige coloured head. I can't see much carbonation due to the darkness of the beer and there is some very nice lacing running in stages down the sides of the glass. The head lasted for several minutes before it began to dissipate.

Smell - hops, malts, roasted/toasted notes

Taste & Mouth - The beer has an average amount of carbonation on the tongue and it comes across as slightly watery. It feels nice and light however and most of the taste is made up malts and light hops. There are also notes of light chocolate and light coffee. It finishes with a malty aftertaste and a light bitterness from the hops..

Drink - A really highly drinkable beer that feels more like a ESB than a IPA to me. I wish it packed a little more punch, but it's still nice to see Canada is putting out some decent brews.

12-14-2010 23:40:51 | More by spinrsx
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Swedes21

Ontario (Canada)

4.33/5  rDev +13.1%

341 fl oz served in a chilled glass

Appearance - beer pours a dark auburn colour that allows some light through. It is hard to tell the carbonation level due to the darkness. The head i about one finger and is an off-white. Some minimal lacing.

Smell - was not expecting this, but the hops and pine are definite smells that come fwd. There is a slight caramel smell as well. The other smell is the citrus base, from grapefruit.

Taste - As the smell, hops and pine are dominant taste to this beer. I am actually quite surprised, but the citrus comes through as well. Compared to the smell, i pick up some coffee taste, something i did not pick up in the scent. Lingering aftertaste too.

Mouthfeel - slight levels of increased carbonation bring the coffee flavour fwd a little more. The beer maintains its taste as well adds a decent amount of fullness.

Drinkability - was not expecting this from this beer and had no idea what to expect. This is a great beer that i picked up in the Holiday Mixer pack at the LCBO. Awesome find for a Tuesday night!

12-08-2010 01:51:48 | More by Swedes21
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thebhoy

Ontario (Canada)

2.8/5  rDev -26.9%

Poured from 33cl bottle into Delirium Tremens tulip.

Colour is dark brown with hints of ruby in light.

Aroma is top-heavy with citrus, and though some cocoa and maltiness comes through on the tail, I fear already that this will be a very one-dimensional brew (not unlike Hoptical Illusion)

Taste confirms fear, and citrus notes become almost overwhelming as it warms, hint of resin lingers on back of palette for a long time.

Mouthfeel is average for the style, though does leave much to be desired on the tail. I'd even go so far as to say that it gets a bit watery and thin as the citrus blast subsides.

Overall, much like their hoptical illusion, this beer seems to be in two minds, and is rendered mediocre accordingly. The hop characteristics are certainly interesting, but with the lack of supporting characters, are almost offputting in their solo role. For this reason, despite the style, I found this beer to be more sessional than their lower abv hoptical illusion.

This beer has potential, and some stronger malts would definitely round out the hop character and add complexity. Regarding the good reviews amassed, I find myself questioning their origin: objectivity or optimism.

12-08-2010 01:29:19 | More by thebhoy
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bobsy

Ontario (Canada)

3.85/5  rDev +0.5%

This beer has had a long evolution from the substandard iteration I had a year ago to its current bottled form.

Pours a deep brown, black in the core, but brown and ruby at the edges. A finger of light tan foam sets up shop and lingers for most of the drink, laying down some good streaks of lace. Juicy grapefruit aroma, with a prominent bitter chocolate backing. Perhaps some limited roast. Good, but could do with a bit more depth and complexity. Pleasant flavour bounces between grapefruit in one sip, and chocolate / light coffee roast in the next. Its an interesting take on the style, but lacking in intensity both on the hops and the roast, and while the bitterness is pleasant, it falls far short of even a regular IPA. Medium body and carbonation works well.

Pleasant and sessionable. I'd consider buying this a few times a year, but its not the miracle brew that some in the province would have you believe. Sure, its a good offering compared to many of the things made by local craft brewers, but that doesn't make it an outstanding example of the style. As an Ontario beer this gets a big thumbs up, but as a black IPA, its probably still one of the weakest examples I've had in spite of all its good points.

Huge kudos for actually trying this and getting it into the lcbo though.

12-06-2010 02:54:59 | More by bobsy
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tbeckett

Ontario (Canada)

4.21/5  rDev +9.9%

Good to see more adventurous styles being accepted by the LCBO. With updated notes from Aug 2013 because I thought I was a tad too generous when I first tried this..

A - Black or very dark red. Bright. Slight carbonation noticable. Creamy, two finger off white head that lasts the whole duration and leaves a little bit of lacing.

S - Lot's of nice juicy hops in the form of grapefruit and some soapiness. A little bit of pinesol maybe. Some minerality and a load of dark malts. A really balanced aroma. Dark fruit and coffee. Well balanced.

T - Really nice dark malt sweetness come first followed by some good hops. Mild chocolate and coffee. Definitely not a hop bomb. Balanecd.

M - Medium body with mild-medium carbonation. Decent bitterness lingers.

D - Yes! A nice balance of a great malt character and a nice, fruity hop profile make this a great change that is easy to access. The sessionable abv is great too. Balance is well done.

12-03-2010 21:37:59 | More by tbeckett
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paxkey

Ontario (Canada)

3.3/5  rDev -13.8%

paired with some smoked fish. pours dark and thick with a thin brown head. some lacing.

smells like cocoa. quite delicious smelling.

some aftertaste. buttered popcorn, popcorn shell burnt taste. peppery.

kind of on the line with this one. some further tasting is in order.

12-03-2010 03:12:38 | More by paxkey
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mrnobody

Ontario (Canada)

4.22/5  rDev +10.2%

I've only had a couple Black IPAs: Stone Sublimely Self Righteous and Dieu du Ciel Penombre. SSR is an amazing beer. I liked Penombre but it didn't make a huge impression on me.

355 ml bottle poured into a Duvel tulip.

A: Pours a dark brown with a reddish tint when held up to the light. One finger of tan head recedes to a ring of foam, a little lacing.

S: As advertised: Cascade hops. Delicious fruit but also some roasty malts in the background.

T: What I'd always imagined a Black IPA should taste like: lots of grapefruit with a lingering bitterness but also stout/porter roasted flavours. This is from Ontario? Delicious.

M: Mouthfeel does seem a bit heavier than a straight IPA, carbonation also seems lower but not really an issue.

D: Very good.

Overall, quite impressed with this one. Up there with the reformulated Great Lakes Devil's Pale Ale in terms of Ontario offerings available at the lcbo.

12-02-2010 03:01:32 | More by mrnobody
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heebes

Ontario (Canada)

4/5  rDev +4.4%

Pours a deep dark brown with a thick foamy tan head. Leaves some nice lacing all the way down. The nose is a blend of roasted malt and a faint citrus hop. The sip reveals a taste all over the spectrum; from toasty smokey malts and bitter hops. The middle is the biggest range of flavour with a long finish of the bitterness from the dank west coast hops. Medium bodied, seems like a great beer, probably the best the brewery has offered.

11-27-2010 18:19:32 | More by heebes
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MattyV

Ontario (Canada)

4.05/5  rDev +5.7%

Pours a very dark brown colour, almost opaque, just allowing faint ruby highlights throw when held up to the light. Fluffy light beige head leaves behind a bit of lacing.

The nose is interesting, at first the hops dominate with notes of pine and citrus, and then as I take a deeper whiff I start to pick up roasted malt and coffee. The malt becomes more apparent as it warms.

Taste is mostly of bitter hops, which present just a minor pine/grapefruit character. Coffee, toasted nuts, and burnt malt start to become noticeable through the middle, and mesh nicely with the hops to provide a crisp dry finish that has a pleasant citrus sourness.

Medium to light-bodied, with moderate carbonation. I felt it was a tad on the thin side, but then again, I could see this lending itself well to sessioning a few of these in succession over the course of an evening. Overall, I'm glad to see Flying Monkeys bringing more tasty and interesting beers into the LC. I think I prefer DDC's black IPA Penombre, but I'll definitely be picking up more 6'ers of this in the future.

11-27-2010 04:24:40 | More by MattyV
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BBP

Ontario (Canada)

3.95/5  rDev +3.1%

A- Almost pitch black with a good consistent head, and some solid lacing.

S- Hop bitterness, and tons of roasted/burnt malts.

T- Bitterness and dark malts build up over time. Mostly roasted malts with a little bit of burnt malt. Piney hops accumulated over the drink, and in the first 1/3 of the drink they were hard to notice, but later became more pronounced.

The malts were very bitter, and I found it worked well with the drink. It allowed the pine taste from the hops to work in harmony with the malt and compliment it rather than contrasting it.

M- I've never had a Black IPA before, but for an IPA it's very creamy and smooth, with an excellent body.

D- A good introduction to Dark IPA's. Smooth and subtle, while packing a lot of flavor. I found that the more I drank, the more I enjoyed it. It seemed to take a while to really set up on my tastebuds.

10-17-2010 22:51:58 | More by BBP
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TheSevenDuffs

Ontario (Canada)

4.13/5  rDev +7.8%

Thanks to korguy123 for sending me a fresh bottle straight from the brewery.

Poured from an unlabeled 12 oz. bottle in to a Duvel tulip glass.

A - Dark brown/black colour with 2 fingers of thick, bubbly, light brown head.

S - Dark roasted malts with some coffee and licorice notes up front. A lot of bitterness from the hops is present as well but only some very subdued citrus notes come through from them.

T - A balanced combination of dark roasted malts and bitter hops. Some coffee notes come through from the malts along with some toasted nuts but no specific flavours are present from the hops - just the bitterness. A slight sweetness is present in the finish.

M - Medium body with a slight chew. Lightly carbonated.

D - A very enjoyable beer. My first experience with the style. Would buy this one again.

10-11-2010 02:49:24 | More by TheSevenDuffs
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liamt07

Ontario (Canada)

4.13/5  rDev +7.8%

Bottle courtesy of korguy123, straight from the brewery. This puppy can't be more than a week old. Cheers Matt!

Netherworld pours a deep dark chestnut brown, bordering on black with a two and a half finger mocha head. Not a shit-ton of lace, but some quality retention. Nose is huge, tons of chocolate, lighter roasted malts, with hints of caramel and coffee. Sitting underneath this is a definite hop presence, well masked by the darker notes overtop. Still some pine and citrus faintly make their way through. Taste has notes of faint chocolate, cold coffee (not in a bad way!), some more roasted malt and finishes slightly bitter, getting the slightest hint of the hops. Warming up a bit reveals the hops a bit more, with some orange and citrus. Mouthfeel is nice, not too thin but not super chewy and full. Above average and somewhat creamy, and the drinkability is through the roof. ABV is not even on my radar, glass disappeared in under 10 mins. I hope they keep this as a regular offering.

10-01-2010 03:08:03 | More by liamt07
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korguy123

Ontario (Canada)

4.68/5  rDev +22.2%

12oz unlabeled bottle into DFH Signature Glass.

A- Rich opaque black pour. Finger width khaki head that recedes to a thing ring. Zero light shines through. Lacing is completely magical!

S- Great hop presence, lightly toasted malts, grapefruit, mandarin oranges, strawberries, milk chocolate, vanilla and brown sugar. Molasses comes out as the beer get to pretty much room temperature.

T- All from above nicely transfer to the wonderful taste.The toasted malts and citrusy hops battling for supremacy on my tongue. Faint earthy tones on the back end.

M- Good hop bitterness tingles the tastebuds, feels a little thinner than it should be, but that's what you get when you delve into a new/hybrid style.

Probably the best Black IPA I've had to date. I think I actually prefer this to Stone's SSR (although SSR was a little heavier which was good)

09-28-2010 16:01:10 | More by korguy123
Flying Monkeys Netherworld Cascadian Dark Ale from Flying Monkeys Craft Brewery
86 out of 100 based on 133 ratings.