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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

524 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 524
Reviews: 338
rAvg: 4.11
pDev: 10.71%
Wants: 51
Gots: 30 | FT: 2
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".
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Ratings: 524 | Reviews: 338
Photo of Darkmagus82
4.05/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured from bottle into a pint glass

Appearance – The beer pours a dark brown color with two fingers of a cream colored head. The head has a good level of retention, slowly fading to leave a great level of foamy lace on the sides of the glass.

Smell – The aroma of the beer is quite heavy of a sweeter molasses and caramel smell along with some other nice roasty notes. Along with these smells comes some darker fruit aromas of prune and plum as well as some other aromas of chocolate and a little bit of a grainy smell.

Taste – The taste begins with a smooth and sweet taste with lots of caramel and chocolate mixed with a little bit of a dark fruit flavors of plum and prune. Other notes of a roasted malt taste are also present upfront, creating a nice smooth base flavor for the brew. As the taste advances the fruit fades a little bit all while more and more caramel and chocolate as well as some molasses comes to the tongue. With a hint of vanilla and a tiny bit of an herbal flavor coming at the very end, one is left with a sweet and smooth, roasty flavor to linger on the tongue.

Mouthfeel – The body of the beer is on the average side in terms of its thickness and creaminess with a carbonation level that is on the slightly lower side. For the porter style and the darker but sweet flavors of the brew, the feel is rather nice and makes for a flavorful, but easy drinking porter overall.

Overall – This is a very nice easy drinking porter at of only 5.5 %. A quite tasty brew overall and one to try if you have the opportunity.

Photo of ArrogantB
3.36/5  rDev -18.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

11.2oz bottle $3.99. I remember reading this was a classic porter so why not. Black with a filmy head that laces the glass. Aroma is yeast and dough. Flavor is slightly smoky, roast malts, touch of chocolate. Not my favorite but not bad, worth a try.

Photo of tillmac62
4.35/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

2010 vintage. Pours a clear dark amber with a rich dark ruby cast. Excellent head volume, lacing and retention. Complex nose of dark fruit (fig, plum), molasses and caramel over notes of chocolate and a hint of coffee. Light medium body with a bit of creaminess over a smooth texture. Normal carbonation with a bit of effervescence in the middle and a nice burst in the finish. The World Class flavor profile is reasonably intense, quite complex and masterfully balanced. It begins with a caramel sweet rush that soon flows into the dark fruits. In the middle, molasses comes to the forefront and fades into a mild roast and hop bitterness. As it approaches the finish, chocolate sweetness is evident and oak notes (oxidative aging) are present as is a subtle smokiness. The finish is a slow fade of sweetness into a mild hop bitterness with just a hint of dryness.

Photo of WoodButcher
4.24/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

A: dark black/brown with only a hint of ruby color when held up to the light. Head is thick and creamy, slow to dissipate leaving lacing on the glass.

S: prunes/plums, with a bit of tobacco and chocolate. Smells of molasses.

T: similar to smell, there are lots of dark notes with prunes, molasses and a hint of chocolate and a bit of burnt character, but only slightly. This reminds me of a German double bock rather than a porter with the earthy, molasses finish. Plenty of malt character but not cloyingly sweet like some porters. A delayed, mildly bitter finish rounds out the palate.

Notes: served from an 11.2oz bottle into a pint, mouthfeel is a bit more sharply carbonated than I expected. That is the only thing I didn't care for, but it wasn't bad, merely unexpected. And once I adjusted to the more double bock taste than anticipated I was able to enjoy it. Not surprising given it is a Swede. In fact, it is nice to enjoy a beer from somewhere other than the usual suspects. At 5.5% and a bit rich I won't be quaffing pints, but this is a very enjoyable beer and worth seeking out. Throw some beer love Sweden's way.

Photo of T-34-85
4.01/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

2013 Bottle - poured into a snifter glass.

L: Pours an inky black with a 1 finger light tan head that dissipates into a thin ring that leaves lacing around that glass as I consume.

S: Bready/biscuity aroma with a molasses sweetness .

T: A predominate taste of roasty sweetness with a moderate level of bitterness that lingers on the tongue, and a slight bite of sourness.

F: Nice carbonation for a smooth mouthfeel.

Overall: Very good porter. Nice malty sweet beer with a roasty effect.

Photo of keithmurray
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance - dark brown body with tan head

Smell - cocoa powder, chocolate, molasses, toffee

Taste - chocolate, molasses, cocoa, toffee, hint of tobacco on the end

Mouthfeel - medium bodied, medium carbonation, slight sweetness upfront, tobacco on the finish, thinner than other examples within the style

Overall - good beer that I've been waiting a while to try for a while, tasty beer at 5.5% ABV

price point - $3.50/11.2 oz single

Photo of Immortale25
4.18/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured into a Funky Buddha Brewery snifter. Can't decipher the best before date, but the last two numbers are "15" so I'm going to assume it's good until 2015.

A- Pours a mostly opaque black color with a 1/4 inch tan head that retains a bit before becoming a thick ring around the edge of the glass and some sparse wisps of surface foam. Semi-resilient lacing leaves a thin, jagged ring behind.

S- Milk chocolate aroma with some medium dark roast. Notes of vanilla and a touch of booze.

T- Straightforward porter flavor with more medium dark roast accompanied by notes of coffee, more vanilla and dark bread. Mild bitterness rounds things out making for a tasty drink.

M- Semi-creamy with medium-low carbonation and a full body.

O- A porter by the numbers but executed so well. Very drinkable as well as very flavorful. Now I see what all the hubbub's about.

Photo of aleigator
3.5/5  rDev -14.8%

Bottle from rlgk, thanks Ronny!

Perfect beige head, brown-black color.

Aromas of bready, roasted malts and coffee.

Rich malts, going along with toffee, earthy notes, hints of chocolate, coffee and smoke. Sweet malts melt together with chocolate, supported by a perfect fitting carbonation, resulting in a smoky, warm finish. Malt goes through different stages on the palate, mingles up with coffee and later on chocolate, but keeps being the most defining ingredient of this beer the whole time. Oily, smooth mouthfeel, with a bitter finish.

Photo of templar316
5/5  rDev +21.7%

2004 vintage in my I Believe snifter. Still has a surprising carbonation herringbone head falls back quickly but clings softly to the side of the glass. All the rough edges have been smoothed of this, leaving polished obsidian. Madagascar vanilla, cocoa and the hint of black currant roll past. Evaporating into a dry licorice finish. A dark pleasure!

Photo of ryan1788a5
4.2/5  rDev +2.2%

11.2oz bottle poured into a pint glass.

A: Very dark brown in color, near black. Beige head settles soon. Small spots of lacing.

S: Molasses, plum, rum raisin, caramel, bready. Faint whiffs of brown cocoa and grassy hops.

T: Brown and black cocoa, caramel and molasses, some yeast, plum, faint grassy hops. Medium sweet. Oak? Very subtle licorice sort of taste. Brown sugar and hints of roasted coffee beans and smoke on the finish.

M: Medium bodied. Some sense of weight and heft in the mouth, but it stops just short of being sticky. Carbonation is very fine-bubbled and scrubs gently. Silky and texturally pleasant.

O: A nice true to style, old school Baltic porter. One of the style benchmarks.

Photo of BillRoth
4.5/5  rDev +9.5%

Popped a 10yo bottle of Carnegie Stark Porter in anticipation of trip to Sweden. Cheers to Bark!
Happily no significant oxidation. Have had this many times, but this time worthy writing about. Beer was a soft wash of roasted coffee and bitter chocolate. Excellent mouth feel, which is delightful considering the rather low abv. My 61 yo old nose doesn't pick up much these days, but there is still a nice roasted grain scent and a hint of fruity sweetness. This is just a great porter. May possibly be my favorite ever. As a lover of Porter...No small praise.

Photo of GreesyFizeek
3.94/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle purchased at Beers of the World in Rochester, NY. '04 vintage.

Pours an inky black, with a small filmy head, less than 1/4 inch, and no lacing.

Smells like sherry, port, chocolate, dark fruits, and roasted malt.

I am dumbfounded that a porter of this low of an ABV could last a decade, but it has. It seems a bit thin, and slightly watery, but there are some really nice flavors here. There's vanilla, chocolate, roasted malt, slight oxidation, sherry, port, and lots of dark fruit flavors. Pretty swell.

This one is fairly light bodied for the Baltic Porter style, but with that, it's still very drinkable, and tasty. There is a very low level of carbonation.

This one was impressive because it lasted so long and remained drinkable- it also helps that it tasted pretty good!

Photo of Tsar_Riga
4.31/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A - Dark brown, nearly black brew, opaque with brown highlights, and a light tan head that reduces to a ring, with mild lacing.

S - Delicious nose of malts and burnt sugars, molasses, with a slight boozy character.

T - Delivers on the nose, but in a quiet, restrained manner. The flavor showcases caramelized sugar and molasses, with a slight hint of smokiness. Very little bitterness.

M - Smooth and surprising light on the tongue, with a mild acidity.

O - The smells from this beer are robust, and while the beer is more restrained when it hits the palate, the overall result is a top-notch porter.

Photo of spoony
4.14/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From a 330 ml bottle (best by October 10, 2015) into a snifter.

A-The beer is a nice-looking ebony brown/black color with about one finger of tan head. I get some lacing on the glass as I drink, but the head retention is on the shorter side.

S-The aroma is simple at first, but reveals more complexity with each new sniff. I get some roasted flavors, but overall bitterness and smokiness are moderate. The malts are earthy with aromas of tobacco, prunes, and molasses. There is some caramel sweetness and dark fruit, too.

T-The taste is not quite as intriguing as the smell, but is pleasant nonetheless. There is just a bit of acrid, smokey bite, as well as caramel, molasses, earthy oak, and a bit of rye bread crust. Bitterness is pretty low for the style, but the beer packs a little touch of pleasant, coffee-like acidity.

M-The feel is medium in heft with a chunky carbonation that is below average in volume.

O-This is a very nice beer. The aroma, in particular, just keeps revealing new flavors with each sniff and each new flavor just seems to fold into the rest in a really pleasing package. The taste is a bit simpler and the mouth is a touch lighter than I would like, but I would happily drink more of this.

Photo of mikeg67
3.89/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Bottle 2013, Klass III. Pours black with small, creamy, beige head and nice lacing. Aroma is of floral hops, toasted malt, dark fruit and coffee. Body is full and slightly crisp. Taste is of toasted malt, coffee, vanilla, brown sugar, dark fruit and floral hops. Finish is long and bittersweet. Very nice porter.

Photo of 57md
4.04/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a dark brown color with ruby edges. The beige head was less than full finger and it dissipated down to a thin film rather quickly. The nose had mild roasty notes. The flavor is a well balanced combination of dry roast and hop bitterness. The hop presence appears to be slightly above the norm for the style, but it makes for a terrific finish alongside the dryness of the roast profile.

This offering is hard to rate in comparison with other Baltics. It seems to be more in the vein of a classic Baltic while most contemporary beers of the style are heavier in body and roasted malt. I'll just say that this is a unique and very tasty offering.

Photo of chinchill
3.52/5  rDev -14.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Undated 330ml bottle served in a Belgian snifter.

Pours very dark reddish-brown, clear with a tan head of moderate size and retention. Spotty lacing.

Aroma: dark and smoked malts with a hint of dried dark fruits.

Flavor: dark fruits, dark bread, light smoke and a hint of coffee.

Photo of biegaman
3.57/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Carnegie Porter looks like a liquid raspberry truffle: it's a melted chocolate brown colour for the most part but has remnants of ruby throughout. All the colour is concealed within its dark exterior and only illuminated when held right up against the light. Its head is scattered but manages to coat most of the surface and some parts of the glass.

Truthfully, there isn't much to distinguish Carnegie Porter. The aroma has only entry-level amounts of chocolate and roasted malt, not really enough even to emulate coffee or licorice flavours. There's traces of dark fruits - whether the influence of malt, yeast, or alcohol who knows - but they, too, make only a minimal contribution.

Those unaccustomed to dark beers will find this surprisingly, pleasantly easy to drink; those expecting a true Scandinavian Baltic Porter will be entirely disappointed. This has neither an especially roasted nor hopped presence, with virtually no coffee, chocolate, caramel, toffee, nutty, or molasses complexity and only the most brief taste of dark fruits. Boring.

The label on the back states that "storage helps the flavour mature and helps enhance its harmony"; there's no production or best before date on this bottle but I doubt it's all that fresh. Already the beer tastes oxidized and considerably thinned out. Given this thin a malt bill - and especially at a mild 5.5% - I'd ignore the brewery's recommendations and drink it now.

Carnegie Porter is a dark beer likely to appeal to those most afraid of them; I should have expected such a watered-down product from Carlsberg. There's nothing bold or intimating about this supposed Baltic Porter - it's as much a caricature as the Swedish chef from the Muppets. Scandinavians do much bolder (and better) than this. Don't waste your time on it.

Photo of Saksis
4.92/5  rDev +19.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

Dark and perfekt with plenty taste..

Photo of BeerFMAndy
3.53/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

11.2 oz bottle poured into a snifter.
5.5% ABV, "Årgång 2013"

A - Clarity is hard to come by in this black beer, but when held to the light, ruby mahogany shines through. The loose, soapy head disappears to clusters of spore-like bubbles sporadically dotted around the surface of the beer and on the glass.

S - Burnt cheap coffee, burnt toast, and oak give the aroma a charred, metallic scent that finally opens up as it warms up, allowing some dark fruit and fig nuances and a touch of mocha in on the finish.

T - The charred profile continues into the flavor with tons of black roasted malts imparting earthiness, burnt toast, peppery notes, and thin, dry cocoa.

M - Thin-bodied, this light porter is crisp and clean like a lager but without any malt sweetness or body leaving this reviewer wanting more.

O - Roasted and bitter with out backbone, this light (in every sense of the word) Baltic Porter has flimsy, lopsided flavor and the makings of a nice Baltic but little body to back it up.

Photo of rixcat
4.03/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

I went into my local well-stocked beer store and cruised for eye-candy as neither my memory nor my heart could come up with an otherwise specific reference. I saw the label, the color, the unique bottle shape and I was at the register faster than I could change my mind. I came home, started heating up the kitchen cooking and anticipating what my mind was computing my heart's eye's whim came up with at the beer shop and I could stand it no longer. I popped my stellar bottled "firmament" anxiously pouring it into a handy pint glass to find a most satisfying cooking companion to prepare my palate for the delicious spicy peppers and pasta meal I was preparing. Round, brown, sweet, and smooth. A lucky privileged guy am I. Some of the elements I find in this drink I also look for in my morning espresso, my other main hobby. This is now a permanent inclusion to my short go-to list, awesome everytime brew.

Photo of bennetj17
4.3/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Black appearance, but not very dense or thick. You can see through the edges a bit in the light. The head is thin, with a tan foam that settles leaving a pencil thin ring. The nose has a faint roastiness, with suggestions of caramel and toffee.

The flavor balances nicely between toffee sweetness and roasted chocolate malts. I'm getting a bit of vanilla as well, and the finish leaves a keen bitterness on the tongue. The alcohol seems quite mild, and I'm trying to figure out how this qualifies as a Baltic Porter. The mouthfeel has just the right degree of thickness, with a sharp carbonation that holds up well.

Overall I'm glad this was recommended to me. It's a fairly robust porter with good depth of flavor and supreme drinkability. Definitely a nice change from the typical American style porters that are so common. Highly recommended.

Photo of cyclonece09
3.6/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 11.2 oz bottle into a mug. Pours pitch black with a foamy brown head. Smells of chocolate, a little coffee. Tastes of raisins, fruit, and candy, quite surprising. Beer lightly carbonated full body nice finish. Overall a slightly above average beer.

Photo of pants678
4.29/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Nearly black with a brownish head.

Coffee on the nose.

Roasted malts and espresso but the mix of the two does not hide a rich chocolate/marshmallow tone. Not so much cacao as cocoa as it's a brighter, sweet flavor. But, really, the espresso pervades the palate and can seem almost like an iced coffee without the weirdly rough, twisted back end.

Looks stout but has a thinner, lighter feel though it seems too rich and smooth to be a porter.

Photo of SeanDonahue
4.09/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

This is a beer from Sweden that you don't see everywhere. I have only seen it sold in a 12 fl. oz bottle so it's something that a browser might skip over at the beer store.

The appearance on this beer is exactly what I would want. It is a very dark brown with some light brown settling at the top. Very little head when poured.

The aroma I get from this beer contains a ton of malt. There are big bready notes in this beer, a ton of grain to be admired.

The taste on this beer is interesting. On the first taste, there are big malt notes that come through. Halfway through, there is a bitter quality that comes out. Mixed in with that, you get those big grains that come out and settle in your mouth.

Overall, this is a fantastic beer if you just want one quick brew with not too much alcohol and a big interesting taste. Sit on the back porch like I am now and enjoy your brew!

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Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 524 ratings.