1. Don't miss our 7th annual American Craft Beer Fest featuring 640+ beers from 140+ brewers this May 30 & 31 in Boston, MA! Buy your tickets now!
  2. BeerAdvocate on your phone?! True story. Try the beta now.

Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

Carnegie Porter 5,5%Carnegie Porter 5,5%

Displayed for educational use only; do not reuse.
BA SCORE
92
outstanding

445 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

(view ratings)
Ratings: 445
Reviews: 322
rAvg: 4.12
pDev: 10.92%


Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB visit their website
Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001)
View: Beers (45) |  Events
Beer: Ratings & Reviews
Sort by:  Latest | High | Low | Top Reviewers | Read the Alström Bros Beer Reviews and Beer Ratings of Carnegie Porter 5,5% Alström Bros
« first ‹ prev | 1-25 | 26-50 | 51-75  | next › last »
Ratings: 445 | Reviews: 322 | Show All Ratings:
Reviews by the Alström Bros:
Photo of Jason
Jason

Massachusetts

4.63/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Presentation: Short 8.82 oz brown bottle with the vintage date of 1998 on the label.

Appearance: Thin lace though it has neatly textured tiny bubbles that crop up every time you take a sip. Close to jet black, only holding it up to the light will it produce some ruby hues.

Smell: Big sugary molasses aroma with a figgy back, dark caramel all over though chocolaty enough to give off a suggestion of brownies. Faint acidity in the nose also.

Taste: Smooth low level of carbonation with a slick mouth feel and solid full to medium body. Roasted flavours are intense but simple with a bite of charcoal and sweetness around all. Flavours of mild espresso, molasses and dark chocolate engulf the taste buds. Vague signs of age show with a touch of wet paper, this seems to add more good than harm and enhances the rich roasted flavours. From the charcoal flavours are trace woody and vanilla notes as well as a deep earthiness. Vague and lost acidic twang barely makes a dent in the threshold of flavour. Fruitiness is hidden for the most part but glimpses of burnt raisins and prune come to mind. Stays sweet even through the finish and there the alcohol is fairly noticed.

Notes: After four years it has held up very well with little signs of damage. Oxidation is minimal and the acidic twang is far out of reach to be a nuance. Makes you wonder what another year or more will bring to this brew.
--
1997: Nearly jet black with a very thin bubbly lace that keeps on coming back after each sip. Smell of dark bread similar to pumpernickel, good amount of sweetness in the nose to soften the roasted aroma. Mild charcoal with woody and bready flavours that want to come in at the same time, very low carbonation that lets the creaminess flow first then a quick yet small smoothness rolls in. Vague acidic twang that is very passive, malt flavours pass back and forth between roasted and bready. Hops are but a dream and seem to be the most faded trait this brew has, thankfully the roasted grain picks up a little of the slack. Hard to tell this brew is on it fifth year, malt is still very fresh on the palate.

Serving type: bottle

04-26-2002 19:56:39 | More by Jason
Photo of Todd
Todd

Colorado

4.95/5  rDev +20.1%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Presentation: 8.82fl.oz. cute little brown bottle. "årgång 1997" states that it's their '97 vintage. "stark" is strong.

Appearance: Deep, dark brown/ruby red. Head pours weak at first with large bubbles, then it creates a 1/4" cream lace under the same. It dissipates to a patchy, creamy off-white lace. A gentle swirl will induce a more creamy head.

Smell: One of the best aromas that I have ever come across. Big malt aromas of dark fruits and sweet raw malts, touch of caramel malt, black liquorice, oak and vanilla. Esters and oxidation are noted. Very rich and complex nose.

Taste: Sweet malt profile of caramel (faint diacetyl/butter flavours), grape-like flavours, light molasses and chocolate. No real "roasted" type flavours, which makes it a very traditional Porter, however you can just pick up a faint smoked malt flavour. Body is medium to full, mouthfeel is a bit chewy and luscious. Towards the end you can taste some oxidation and cherry/oak notes, a by-product of its age. Finishes slighty dry and bready, with notes of grain husk and chocolate residuals.

Notes: This vintage has probably reached its peak, though I'd be interested in tasting it again in a few years. It's an amazing example of the style and ripe for the tasting. I implore everyone to try this magnificent Swedish beer.

Serving type: bottle

02-04-2001 09:48:26 | More by Todd
More User Reviews:
Photo of datalager
datalager

Connecticut

4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

04-06-2014 17:09:35 | More by datalager
Photo of DaveMiller
DaveMiller

Minnesota

4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

03-28-2014 04:37:20 | More by DaveMiller
Photo of brpendergast85
brpendergast85

District of Columbia

3.5/5  rDev -15%

03-25-2014 03:29:49 | More by brpendergast85
Photo of Andreias21
Andreias21

Florida

4/5  rDev -2.9%

03-24-2014 12:17:51 | More by Andreias21
Photo of afsdan
afsdan

Colorado

4.75/5  rDev +15.3%

03-23-2014 14:12:59 | More by afsdan
Photo of DrunkinYogi
DrunkinYogi

Connecticut

4/5  rDev -2.9%

03-21-2014 03:13:35 | More by DrunkinYogi
Photo of oso
oso

Illinois

3.75/5  rDev -9%

03-18-2014 04:34:25 | More by oso
Photo of CDCNAM
CDCNAM

Louisiana

3.5/5  rDev -15%

03-14-2014 03:12:21 | More by CDCNAM
Photo of Bonis
Bonis

Ohio

4/5  rDev -2.9%

02-19-2014 23:00:51 | More by Bonis
Photo of 57md
57md

Pennsylvania

4.06/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a dark brown color with ruby edges. The beige head was less than full finger and it dissipated down to a thin film rather quickly. The nose had mild roasty notes. The flavor is a well balanced combination of dry roast and hop bitterness. The hop presence appears to be slightly above the norm for the style, but it makes for a terrific finish alongside the dryness of the roast profile.

This offering is hard to rate in comparison with other Baltics. It seems to be more in the vein of a classic Baltic while most contemporary beers of the style are heavier in body and roasted malt. I'll just say that this is a unique and very tasty offering.

Serving type: bottle

02-17-2014 00:12:48 | More by 57md
Photo of Snowdog
Snowdog

Ohio

4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

02-14-2014 23:04:44 | More by Snowdog
Photo of threedaggers
threedaggers

Kentucky

3.75/5  rDev -9%

02-06-2014 03:50:09 | More by threedaggers
Photo of chinchill
chinchill

South Carolina

3.53/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Undated 330ml bottle served in a Belgian snifter.

Pours very dark reddish-brown, clear with a tan head of moderate size and retention. Spotty lacing.

Aroma: dark and smoked malts with a hint of dried dark fruits.

Flavor: dark fruits, dark bread, light smoke and a hint of coffee.

Serving type: bottle

02-06-2014 02:04:29 | More by chinchill
Photo of Zekenyce
Zekenyce

New Jersey

4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

02-05-2014 04:10:27 | More by Zekenyce
Photo of MikeCactusGordon
MikeCactusGordon

Ohio

4/5  rDev -2.9%

02-02-2014 14:23:51 | More by MikeCactusGordon
Photo of osuskin
osuskin

Indiana

2.75/5  rDev -33.3%

01-30-2014 01:43:51 | More by osuskin
Photo of biegaman
biegaman

Ontario (Canada)

3.56/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Carnegie Porter looks like a liquid raspberry truffle: it's a melted chocolate brown colour for the most part but has remnants of ruby throughout. All the colour is concealed within its dark exterior and only illuminated when held right up against the light. Its head is scattered but manages to coat most of the surface and some parts of the glass.

Truthfully, there isn't much to distinguish Carnegie Porter. The aroma has only entry-level amounts of chocolate and roasted malt, not really enough even to emulate coffee or licorice flavours. There's traces of dark fruits - whether the influence of malt, yeast, or alcohol who knows - but they, too, make only a minimal contribution.

Those unaccustomed to dark beers will find this surprisingly, pleasantly easy to drink; those expecting a true Scandinavian Baltic Porter will be entirely disappointed. This has neither an especially roasted nor hopped presence, with virtually no coffee, chocolate, caramel, toffee, nutty, or molasses complexity and only the most brief taste of dark fruits. Boring.

The label on the back states that "storage helps the flavour mature and helps enhance its harmony"; there's no production or best before date on this bottle but I doubt it's all that fresh. Already the beer tastes oxidized and considerably thinned out. Given this thin a malt bill - and especially at a mild 5.5% - I'd ignore the brewery's recommendations and drink it now.

Carnegie Porter is a dark beer likely to appeal to those most afraid of them; I should have expected such a watered-down product from Carlsberg. There's nothing bold or intimating about this supposed Baltic Porter - it's as much a caricature as the Swedish chef from the Muppets. Scandinavians do much bolder (and better) than this. Don't waste your time on it.

Serving type: bottle

01-23-2014 04:40:07 | More by biegaman
Photo of M1A2
M1A2

Ohio

4/5  rDev -2.9%

01-18-2014 16:00:32 | More by M1A2
Photo of BigOldOaf
BigOldOaf

Massachusetts

3.25/5  rDev -21.1%

01-15-2014 03:09:34 | More by BigOldOaf
Photo of bigred89
bigred89

Maryland

4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

01-05-2014 16:03:34 | More by bigred89
Photo of kodt
kodt

Illinois

4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

01-04-2014 02:33:44 | More by kodt
Photo of DrinkSlurm
DrinkSlurm

Connecticut

3.75/5  rDev -9%

12-28-2013 22:07:27 | More by DrinkSlurm
Photo of Saksis
Saksis

Norway

5/5  rDev +21.4%

12-27-2013 18:30:27 | More by Saksis
« first ‹ prev | 1-25 | 26-50 | 51-75  | next › last »
Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 445 ratings.