Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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Reviews: 336
Hads: 529
rAvg: 4.13
pDev: 10.17%
Wants: 52
Gots: 30 | FT: 2
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".
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Photo of JayQue
3.97/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

My first beer from Sweden. A winner! Purchased at Grape and Gourmet in Va Beach. Kevin has the Rate Beer scores taped under most shelves in the store. This one was rated super high...as it is on Beer Advocate as well. I can see why now. Poured from an 11.2 oz bottle into a pint glass, the light tan head is just average with less than average retention and some spotty lacing. The beer itself has a nice dark brown color with ruby highlights available around the sides and bottom of the glass. The aroma is powerful, as pleasantly strong as some RISs. The aroma is malty, plenty of coffee and a vinuous/ port wine aroma as well. Taste is similar, a strong malty presence, coffee as the next most powerful flavor, a vinuous quality is there too. The only flavor that does come through in the aroma is the finishing hops bitterness. Adds a "just right" balance.

Mouthfeel is rich,,,hops at the end provides a nice treat for the tongue. Alcohol presence is mild and appropriate.

A fine porter!!! (995 characters)

Photo of froghop
3.97/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

pours a dark brown with a red tint when held to the light, small khaki head, and okay lacing.

smell is of coffee, sweet chocolate, and vanilla.

taste is creamy, milk chocolate, coffee, and some roasted nuts, ends with just a touch of bitterness and a little dry. (264 characters)

Photo of matty
3.97/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pitch black colored beer with a rapidly fading head.Aroma is very pleasant with dark fruit and cocoa powder.Taste is dark fruit,caramel,butterscotch and chocolate.A very flavorful and good beer.I would highly recommend and definetly purchase again in the near future. (267 characters)

Photo of jmz62565
3.96/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This is a 2004 vintage. This beer pours a ink black with a large foamy head. The head of this beer leaves very nice lacing. The smell has a real wood smoke aroma that dominates ,but also has sweet roasted malt . The taste is crisp with a smokey flavor along with malt sweetness and coffee. The m/f is lighter than expected with the flavors coming together very nicely. A very good beer that should be had by all. Cheers. (420 characters)

Photo of Richardberg
3.96/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A: poured from a bottle into a stemless wine glass. Thin cola-colored liquid. No head to speak of.

S: very interesting! Dark syrupy malts, prune, licorice, bitter orange.

T: similar notes from the aroma, but far more dominated by the malty flavors.

M: not bad but too thin for a porter. just enough carbonation to keep things interesting.

D: considering the thin body and low ABV, I found it surprisingly difficult to drink. enjoyable and all, but I'm not sure I'll pick up another. (486 characters)

Photo of brownbeer
3.95/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2004 vintage poured into a snifter.

A- Dark brown with a thin cream color head.

S- Malted milk balls, cocoa powder, with a certain fruitiness.

T- Yoo-hoo, a light fruity coffee note that's slighty bitter.

M- Light with very little carbonation, which defies all because the head retention is great.

D- Very drinkable due to the light body and lack of intensity. (365 characters)

Photo of NJpadreFan
3.95/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

D. Carnegie & Co. Argang 2001

My first Swedish beer!

appearance- Dark red/ black with a nice creamy tan head.

smell- Coffee!

taste- smooth coffee and a light chocolate flavor.

mouthfeel- a hint of alcohol and a slight bitterness.

overall- a nice porter that goes down well. Simple review- beer wasn't too complex. (331 characters)

Photo of bditty187
3.95/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Clear, dark brown in hue with a mix of ruby and tan highlights; beige head, at the apex the foam was over two fingers tall. Head retention was impressive; while the foam had a pocked soda look the bubbles did hang together very well. A tight cap lasted the entire consumption. Lacing started before I took a sip but, overall, it wasn’t very widespread. I can’t complain about the appearance, so I won’t. This is an attractive beer.

The nose has lots of toffee and caramel aromas as well as a faint but noticeable chocolate smell. Hints of molasses, figs, and raisins… no alcohol notes which should be expected considering it clocks in at sub 6% ABV. Clean aromas, no ale fruitiness. Lager yeast maybe? Not the most complex Baltic Porter I’ve smelled but it fits the mold, IMO. Moderate potency; I’ll call the aromas inviting, if not a tad straightforward.

The palate has a wonderful charred taste along with black coffee notes. Dry… more roasted then the nose indicated. There are suggestions of figs and raisins but these flavors are much in the background. Chocolate finds a home in the middle, somewhere after the char and coffee but before the dark fruits. Right before the finish, at the swallow, there is a brief hint of vanilla. Quick, dry, roasted aftertaste. I really like it. Compact flavor profile with enough complexity to keep me interested. Overall, it is tasty.

IMO, the mouthfeel is a tad thin and watery; about medium in body… maybe this is fitting for the size of this beer. Even so, I want more heft. Low but natural carbonation; on the whole the mouthfeel is okay. While I have complaints, this aspect of the beer doesn’t ruin the overall experience.

A session Baltic Porter? I think so. Should there be such a thing? Carnegie is not better than Gonzo or Ockocim but I like it all the same. Some crackers and cheddar cheese would rock with it. Maybe even a black bean burrito or a burger. I purchased a couple bottles in Council Bluffs, IA for $3.29. It was worth it.


“årgång 2006” (2,033 characters)

Photo of Aenema
3.95/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

3/26
(2006 Vintage)
Appearance - Pours deep black with a fluffy, tan head.
Smell - Dark, roasty malts.
Taste - Strong coffee grounds, cocoa; not much sweetness or bitterness, just intense roastiness.
Mouthfeel - Smooth feel with a light-medium body. Lifting, low carbonation.
Drinkability - Enjoyable beer that has much more flavor than the abv would suggest. (359 characters)

Photo of GreesyFizeek
3.94/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle purchased at Beers of the World in Rochester, NY. '04 vintage.

Pours an inky black, with a small filmy head, less than 1/4 inch, and no lacing.

Smells like sherry, port, chocolate, dark fruits, and roasted malt.

I am dumbfounded that a porter of this low of an ABV could last a decade, but it has. It seems a bit thin, and slightly watery, but there are some really nice flavors here. There's vanilla, chocolate, roasted malt, slight oxidation, sherry, port, and lots of dark fruit flavors. Pretty swell.

This one is fairly light bodied for the Baltic Porter style, but with that, it's still very drinkable, and tasty. There is a very low level of carbonation.

This one was impressive because it lasted so long and remained drinkable- it also helps that it tasted pretty good! (788 characters)

Photo of StJamesGate
3.94/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2007 vintage.

Pours dark ruby with webs and carpets of off white lace. Where's the nose? Very light aroma of bark. Roasty malts up front with ash, cold coffee, and milk chocolate. Sweet middle. Mint and herbal hops close. Dry, light, smooth, round.

All about balance. Perhaps a challenge to what some other brewers are putting out as a Baltic, which is basically an Imperial Porter. But this is understated, subtle and oh so drinkable. (438 characters)

Photo of STEG
3.94/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Room temperature pour into a Mikasa widemouth glass

Creates a pitch black mass in my glass with a two finger fluffy dark khaki head extruding from the abyss that dissipates into layer of fine bubbles.

Some agitation reveals some interesting smells. Smells that can be described as dank darkfruits and muskiness and old beer, and a salty briney character as well with the expected coffee and chocolate flavors taking a backseat as mere undertones.

Taste reveals more of the same initially you're hit with a dank musky taste that has some dark fruits like plum and raisin in there as well. At the back are some light coffee notes

Mouthfeel is very light and watery surprising given the style but its still smooth. I was hoping for something a bit thicker and more chewy.

The taste causes this musky beer to take a hit in the drinkability category but it was worth a shot, I'd be willing to give it a second chance on tap. (924 characters)

Photo of mynie
3.93/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Quite the pour. Ruby hues, not opaque, but pretty close, and with one hell of a brown, rocky, retentive head. The kind of huge bubbles that make you slow down pouring about half the way through because you're not expecting them, and you know they're gonna stick around a while.

Smells like very intense roasted malt. Very bitter with nodes of coffee grounds. Maybe a little old--scents of fruit come through, as well. Nice, though.

Big bitter malt, big black coffee. Burst of alcohol (strange from a 5.5%!) in the middle, more bitter malts and the end, big fruit sweetness lingering. Tastes a tiny bit stale, but the back sez, I'm not kidding, "Best Before May 2014." That kind of hubris can cost you, sonny.

Good beer. Probably even better fresh. If only they included a realistic dating system... (807 characters)

Photo of jakester
3.92/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I bought this as a single at Union Jack's on the Manatawny. I drank it in a goblet. This is the 2004 version. It comes in a 16.9 oz. bottle.

Pours an absolutely pitch black with active carbonation visible on the sides of the glass. A nice, two fingered head of beige colored foam forms on top, drops to a good coating and a ring, with very nice lacing.

Aroma is mostly chocolate, with a slight coffee background.
There is also some kind of chalky, metallic smell in there. I think I can detect licorice as well. The metallic aroma becomes a little too much as it warms.

First flavor is sweet chocolate, with a hint of coffee. This tastes much better than it smells. I actually started holding my breath as I sipped. Pretty darn clean for a two year old, small alcohol beer. Licorice is in there, I think, and fruit flavors like very dark rum soaked cherries. Aftertaste is dark, sweet, and mellow.

Mouthfeel is fairly smooth and creamy, with a high level of residual sweetness. Pretty full bodied. Carbonation is low to medium. Finish is smooth and luscious.

If it wasn't for the smell, this would be outstanding. I honestly held my breath for every sip, trying not to ruin the taste. The flavor is really good. And actually, after 15 minutes or so, the smell went away. One I'd have again. I'd just open it and let it breathe for a while. (1,356 characters)

Photo of FLAbeergutinMASS
3.92/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A great Porter from Europe. This beer best characteristic is its smell. Huge wafting musty boldness from this one. Big chocolate maltiness, a little stale, but not a bad stale. Finishes dry on the tongue, powdery chocolate, semi-sweet and bitter.

Europeon Porters, IMO are much more complex then theri American counter-parts. Not as wild, or original, but but more solid. A good beer that comes in a bottle that is too small. (428 characters)

Photo of Sixpoint
3.91/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

For some reason, I always put this beer in a head-to-head matchup with Okocim and Sinebrychoff. They're all considered Baltic Porters, but if you look at the ingredients and starting gravities, they're completely different approaches to what is considered the same style.

I find this one to be the least complex of the three. I enjoy this one though; I think it has a number of redeeming qualities. First of all, consider the deep toffee and caramel aroma... it's impressive. Also, the yeast strain they use has a nice balance of dry crispness with fruity esters.

A couple of things I think this beer lacks is substance in body and enough character from the chocolate and patent malts. Perhaps this is different when the beer is tasted fresh? The sample I am using to assess was a bottle that had been aged for almost a year; it would be interesting to see what this beer tastes like at the brewery.

All in all, it's a great beer, but not one of the best Baltic Porters I've had. (989 characters)

Photo of BretSikkink
3.91/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reasonably dark brown color with some accenting around the side - head is thick and pretty full. A smattering of lace, but not much going on.

Pleasant and mildly sweet aromas of fruit and roasted malt. I'm pretty unimpressed with how weak this nose is.

I expected a little more darkly roasted malts and strength of character, but what's there is nice of taste - I just want more of it. Lots of chocolate and more than a little coffee, but the complexity isn't too high.

More fullness is required in the end; for this style I would like a little more malt body and a more fleshed out beer in general. This is easy to drink in the sense that it's light bodied with some interesting flavors, but I'm ready for another beer and if I had any number of alternatives within this style I would take them. (802 characters)

Photo of scruffwhor
3.91/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Poured from a one pint .9 fluid oz bottle into a arlsberg Imperial Pint glass.

Appearance- The perfect pour into my Carlsberg imperial pint glass. A nice tan, two and a half finger head with good retention and film formage. The colro was a perfect mix of brown and black.

Smell- A pretty subdued baltic porter. Hints of walnuts, chocolate, and deep roasted malts.

Taste- Even though this is the weakest abv baltic porter I've tried, it was still very good. Starts out as a sweet nutty flavor, but leads into a chocolate chip muffin flavor. This finish is a light, but dark hop flavor profile with soem hnts at fresh ground coffee.

Mouthfeel- Pretty light for such a dark beer. This would a new session beer if it was more readily available at some Illinois bars. (778 characters)

Photo of FLima
3.9/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

This beer dates back to 1836, which was a surprise for a Swedish beer.
Deep black color with a thin head with low retention.
Grainy raw malt aroma with clear mocha notes.
Flavor of roasted and toasted malts, dark chocolate and earthy hops. Hints of licorice, raisins and figs.
Very dry aftertaste with a long lasting residual taste of dark malts, cocoa powder and hops.
Full body with low carbonation.
What a beautiful Baltic Porter. If you like dark beers, it is a must. (471 characters)

Photo of Jredner
3.89/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Dark brown with a thin head. Smells of chocolate and mildly of molasses. Lightly roasted with sweet malt and more molasses and chocolate. Very mild, but also very compelling. You just want another sip. It almost has a Baltic Porter taste profile, but none of the BP alcohol. (274 characters)

Photo of mikeg67
3.89/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Bottle 2013, Klass III. Pours black with small, creamy, beige head and nice lacing. Aroma is of floral hops, toasted malt, dark fruit and coffee. Body is full and slightly crisp. Taste is of toasted malt, coffee, vanilla, brown sugar, dark fruit and floral hops. Finish is long and bittersweet. Very nice porter. (312 characters)

Photo of plaid75
3.88/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Argang 2004.

Poured a deep black hue with a one finger foamy tan head. There was good retention and lacing.

The smell featured a soft cocoa aroma with hints of coffee and mild caramel.

The taste consisted of an upfront lactose sweetness that gradually blended with the roasted coffee element The sweetness prevented the flavor from drying out. I was a bit suprised by this.

The mouthfeel was full and chewy, with a bit of an uncomfortable heavy sweetness.

Overall a nice and flavorful porter. Not as dry as I would have hoped however. (549 characters)

Photo of baggio
3.87/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

One of the better beers produced in sweden and i've never tried it...untill now....

A: Pitch black. Almost non-existant lace.

S: Cocoa, ripe fruit, roasted malts, rum.

T: wood, vanilla, bourbon, coffee, chocolate.

M: Smooth as silk with a nice burnt aftertaste. Low carbonation.

This is a fine porter that i regret not trying untill now. I think should
age nicely too. Recommended! (386 characters)

Photo of TheDM
3.86/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Oh yeah! A small head with medium to fine light brown bubbles that quickly fades away. A deep brown color almost black body. It has a very heavy aroma full of hops. Low carbonation with heavy flavor and coffee taste typical of a good dark porter. I found myself taking several sips to make my taste calls. It has a typical dark flavor with no aftertaste. The head is gone now as I complete this report. A very nice brew. (420 characters)

Photo of merlin48
3.82/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2001 vintage with "best before 2010" on label. Pours an opaque, almost pitch black with a tan head that quickly drops into patchy and collar lacing. Aroma of burnt coffee, smoke, licorice, and a hint of chocolate. Mouthfeel is medium bodied, creamy, and has a mild peppery bite. Taste is similar to the nose, with burnt coffee, smokiness, licorice, and spicy, dry, bittering hops. Very drinkable, and a nice Porter, but nothing outstanding at this stage. I was surprised by the "best before" date being a several years down the road. This one will probably be much better in a couple of years. (593 characters)

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