Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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505 Ratings
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Ratings: 505
Reviews: 333
rAvg: 4.11
pDev: 10.95%
Wants: 52
Gots: 22 | FT: 2
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001)
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Photo of connecticutpoet
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Vintage 2004.

This brew was a rich, dark brown... clear, and with a one0finger tan head that took a while to die down, first to a layer of foam, eventually to a thin scrim on the surface.

The aroma was of coffee with cream and roasted malts.. but it was very light and airy. Hard to detect.

Taste was very rich, mainly slightly sweet roasted malts. There was also some slightly burnt toffee thrown in there for good measure. Overall well balanced.

Mouthfeel was nice and chewy, quite good for the style. About what I had hoped for,

Drinakability likewise is very good. I just wish it was less expensive, and that it wasn't retired. Oh well, it is still going down well tonight.

Photo of wailingwench
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1997 vintage bottle, Premier Gourmet, Buffalo, $4.20

Eye Candy: Jet black, dark brown edges. Thick creamy 1 finger head. Swirling brings the character back. Some sticking to the sides of the glass. Superb retention.

The Nose Knows: Brown sugar sweetness, raisins, and light molasses.

Tongueland: A tad thinner than it looks and smells. Rich, deep brown sugar profile with dark fruit middle. Toffee and thin molasses finish. Lingering touch of cocoa. Warming alcohol at the end.

Bender Factor: This was a once in a lifetime. For $4.20, no. I was expecting someting better. Not to say that this was shyte, just didnt meet my 4 dollar expectations. Regarless, solid brew. Worth seeking out the newer, less expensive years.

Photo of yeahnatenelson
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Årgång 2004

Thrown in as an extra by Jwiss22 - what a great guy!

Appearance -- Pours a dark brown, black in the glass, with an abundance of dark khaki head.

Smell -- Roast malt, raisin, figs, cocoa powder, malted milk, and red wine.

Taste -- Vibrant malt sweetness up front: raisin, cabernet grapes, and figs. There's also some pleasant smokey/roast flavors, like cocoa powder, char, molasses. There's a little bit of wet cardboard-y oxidation, but it hardly detracts from all of the benefits that aging has brought.

Mouthfeel -- Medium to full in body with mild carbonation. Smooth.

Drinkability -- If you told me a 5.5% beer would maintain this well over the course of six years, I wouldn't have believed you. Great stuff.

Photo of EricCioe
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This pours a very deep brown with a sandy head that dies down but is easily stirred back up with agitation. On the nose there is licorice, vanilla, leather, tobacco, smoke and raisins. There is a whole lot going on in the nose on this one. In the mouth the licorice mixes with darker fruits that were hidden on the nose. The vanilla is still present but it's mostly through the nose. There is a whole lot going on here, too. The body is medium with relatively lower carbonation and a long finish, especially given the low abv.

Overall, this is one of the most complex brews I've ever had. There are so many flavors going on in both the nose and in the mouth. I had a great evening listening to Jaga Jazzist Live at the Cosmopolite and sipping on a glass of this stuff. It's not too often that I say I'm going to have to revisit a brew to see if I can figure it out more, but this is one of those.

Photo of OtherShoe2
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours deep black with a slight partial ring of a tan head.

Scents of deep roast malt and dark raisin bread. Some herbal notes as well. Not an overpowering scent, though.

Dark roasted malt with a great balance between bitterness and sweet, with a bite of sweet fruit that reminded me of booze-filled cherries covered with dark chocolate. Seriously!

Nice consistency with some oily qualities.

Overall, this one went fast. Not overly boozy, and great balance, body, and strenght/complexity of flavor. A very good and interesting porter to try. From 2004 batch.

Photo of kwakhead
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

1997 vintage 8.82oz bottle 5.5% very dark very little head ,minimal carbonation.Tried this last night at a vintage beer tasting and found it to be one of my favorites.i found it to be very drinkable,sweet but not to sweet .chocolate coffee hints perhaps?maybe prunes or grapes?I would definatelytry this again if I had the opportunatey.

Photo of ThisWangsChung
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

I was surprised to see this in my Neighborhood Liquor Store™, so of course I had to bite the bullet. 11.2 oz bottle into a pint glass, 2010 vintage.

A: Pours a dark ruby color. It appears pitch black from a glance, however it shows ruby-red edges when held up to a good light. The head is a two finger light mocha shade. It doesn't retain itself well, unfortunately, but manages to leave behind good lacing.

S: Rich as hell, yet also quite sweet. Aside from mild (and expected) oxidation, there are also strong notes of dark fruits, along with a good helping of cocoa powder. It does a good job of coming across bigger than it really is.

T: The opening flavors, indeed, are sweet and fruity. After that, it gradually dries out. A midtaste full of luscious cocoa powder becomes lightly ashy on the finish and aftertaste. However, it remains plummy throughout the flavor profile, and even shows some good depth.

M: It's got a lighter body, with a mild finishing dryness helping to keep some of the sweeter flavors in check. Carbonation is low as expected, but not quite flat. It's quite easy to drink given its relative rich flavor.

O: Lowish carbonation aside, this has aged like a champ. A shame I'll likely never be able to find this again (barring a trade) because this is really excellent stuff. And hey, I didn't have to drink a crappy Carlsberg lager or sell my soul for a bottle of Kaggen! Stormakstporter just so I could tick a Swedish brew!

Photo of comat0se
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2001: Pours a nice dark ruby color with chocolate overtones with a smooth, tan head leaving behind a lacy cling. A whiff from the glass reveals big sweet, malty, dark fruity, raisin aromas. Big sweet malt flavor with a slight metallic twinge, some alcohol warming, medium fruitiness like plums or raisins, and a mild roasted malt contribution. A dry hops finish with some grain astringency keeps this beer under control. It has a smooth, medium-heavy body with medium carbonation, but has an almost syrupy consistency. This is a super malty porter... I didn't know they could be like this. Almost reminded me of some doppelbocks, but with some roast character added.

Photo of mmmbeer
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From a half-liter bottle, "argang 2004" and best by May 2014. It pours with a deep black body, not too thick, and topped with an inch of dark khaki head. It is quite aromatic with roasted/toasted, chocolate, vinous, and sweet malts with notes of blackberry. The flavor adds to this notes of coffee, tobacco, anise, smoked malts, green apple or melon rind, a light lactic quality, and green hops that contribute a mild bitterness. The body is medium to light for such a dark brew, with medium carbonation and a medium finish. Overall a tasty Baltic porter that has a wonderful aroma.

Photo of BeerNinja007
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I got this squatty 500mL bottle a while ago at Manchester Wine & Spirits, Manchester CT, for $5.99. Stark-Porter label indicates date brewed as 2006 and best before January 2016. Served chilled in a standard pint glass.

Black-brown brew gives about 2" of thick mocha foam with great retention and ample lace. Smells of milk chocolate, yeast, molasses, bourbon, and straight vanilla extract on a thick starchy malty backbone. As it warms, the aroma develops some odd fruitiness, berry esters. Taste is mostly a mix of smooth milk chocolate and dry molasses sweetness, then vanilla extract, a bit of smoke, and berry esters. Finish is of bitter molasses, vanilla, and fruit. Feel is creamy and thick, mostly dry, with very light carbonation.

This is a tasty porter. Compared to others, this one is a bit too light on the carbo, almost flat. Hops are not detected. There's a lot of molasses and it's not as dry as a typical porter. The fruity stuff is a little odd and seems to be common in Nordic brews of many different styles.

Photo of BikeChef
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2006 the bottle says. Pours a deep dark brown, with a lacy head. Smells of dried fruits and roasty-ness. Mmmmm... this is a very nice porter. Molasses mixed with more dried fruits and toast in a very drinkable beer. Tastes bigger than its 5.5%. Wish this was more affordable in the US-- I'd drink this all fall and into the winter.

Photo of spoony
4.11/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From a 330 ml bottle (best by October 10, 2015) into a snifter.

A-The beer is a nice-looking ebony brown/black color with about one finger of tan head. I get some lacing on the glass as I drink, but the head retention is on the shorter side.

S-The aroma is simple at first, but reveals more complexity with each new sniff. I get some roasted flavors, but overall bitterness and smokiness are moderate. The malts are earthy with aromas of tobacco, prunes, and molasses. There is some caramel sweetness and dark fruit, too.

T-The taste is not quite as intriguing as the smell, but is pleasant nonetheless. There is just a bit of acrid, smokey bite, as well as caramel, molasses, earthy oak, and a bit of rye bread crust. Bitterness is pretty low for the style, but the beer packs a little touch of pleasant, coffee-like acidity.

M-The feel is medium in heft with a chunky carbonation that is below average in volume.

O-This is a very nice beer. The aroma, in particular, just keeps revealing new flavors with each sniff and each new flavor just seems to fold into the rest in a really pleasing package. The taste is a bit simpler and the mouth is a touch lighter than I would like, but I would happily drink more of this.

Photo of rhoadsrage
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a nonic)

A- This beer pours a dense black body with no sign of carbonation or light getting through. There is a thick bubbly light tan head that last for a good bit.

S- The aroma of cream and dark roasted malt is well blended with some Munich malt qualities about it.

T- The soft black malt has a coffee hint without the bitterness and a smooth mellow tang to it. There is a mineral water taste to it as the beer warms but it is pleasant. The finish has a touch of roasted malt with a faint smoke quality to it.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a slightly slippery texture and no alcohol heat noticed.

O- The well-blended flavors of dark malt are smooth and very easy to drink but still have some nice depth. There were some grain and pot caramel qualities that are hard to describe in there. It is a great "recreation" of a historic beer and a lovely session beer.

Photo of Sammy
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1997 edition. A very smooth porter, with some sourness. Very Black and very roasty and other herbs, including fennel aroma and possibly peppermint is very attractive. Chocolate malts Wee small bottle goes pretty quickly. Encourages trying other Swedish brews.

Photo of JamnesCameron
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a snifter.

Pours a jet black with a finger or two of light mocha colored head that drops fairly quickly, with lacing evident.

Aromas of light roasty grain, with a hint of sourness. Caramel and chocolate.

Flavors of light chocolate, light roasted grains, a little sourness, very smooth and creamy natured. No hop flavors. Finish is short, with a sour and caramel malt note.

Mouthfeel is medium/light, with creamy carbonation.

Very drinkable. Very nice foreign style porter. Could a number of these in one sitting, very sessionable.

Photo of Rapax
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark reddish brown, almost black. Foam does not stay for long.

The smell is dark, sweet caramel. No detectable hop character, almost no fruitiness and very little of the roasted notes I would expect to find.

Tasting it, the roasted character that was so lacking in the smell finally arrive. And it is accompanied by even more caramel sweetness, and clear hints of liqorice. Bitterness is low from the start but grows to and appropriate level. A subtle hint of tobacco finishes.

Mouthfeel is a little on the thin side, for the type, but it works.

Overall a good rather than excellent beer. A little extra mouthfeel and definitely more complexity would have promoted it to great. Although I have never tasted the old top fermented version I can safely say that this beer would be ages better as a top fermented one.

Photo of RedHaze
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

årgång 2006.

Pours a very dark chocolaty brown with some ruby peeking through the edges. The head peaks at about one finger and fades fairly quickly to a thin soapy cap, leaving behind a thin bit of lacing.

Smell; dark roasted/toasted malts, chocolate, coffee and some mild hops. There's some dark fruits going on, and a little malty sweetness as well.

Taste; lots of roasted flavors up front with burnt toast and coffee, and there's a pretty strong chocolate presence. Some dark fruits and a bit of a hoppy bitterness round out the finish.

Mouthfeel is medium to full bodied and with a fairly smooth carbonation it has a pretty silky feel. The drinkability is really good, and add in the fact that, for a Baltic Porter the alcohol level is fairly low, I could easily enjoy a couple of these.

Photo of flagmantho
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 500mL bottle into a pint glass. This bottle is årgång 2004, so it's got some good age on it.

Appearance: rich, deep amber brown with one thick finger of creamy tan head. Body allows a hint of red light through.

Smell: very nice aroma which is lightly fruity with a roasty and chocolatey backdrop. Somewhat sweet and quite enjoyable.

Taste: like the aroma, there's a nice fruitiness here with a bit of roastiness and chocolate there for character. The flavor is not super strong; that is basically the only drawback.

Mouthfeel: body is on the lighter side of medium, but there's a well-integrated carbonation which yields a silky creaminess. Quite nice.

Drinkability: this beer is more than the sum of its parts. I like Baltic porters in general, and Carnegie is kind enough to clock in at a low enough ABV to basically be a session beer. Great stuff.

Photo of JoeyHotrod
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1997 bottle..... The beer poured to a dark brown almost black color with not much in the way of a head. There were hints of a good strong coffee as well as the chocolate you would expect in a nice porter. There was not much in the way of carbonation which is a good thing from my perspective.

Not my favorite porter and perhaps just a shade or two light, but overall a very nice beer to enjoy. Not easy to find from what I understand, but clearly worth the effort.

Photo of Jayli
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

consumed 1/16
2004 vintage picked up at Gordon's in Watertown
Thanks to speakorspasm for the recommendation

A: This beer pours a thin deep, dark, chocolate brown with a one finger of creamy offwhite head. Some spotty lacing is left on the glass.

S: Nose is heavy on the fruits, prune and raisins really dominate the nose, and hints of caramel malt.

T: Taste is rather sweet. Dark fruits really dominate at the initial step. Slight hint of raisins, but prune is the real dominant fruit flavoring. Chocolate and deep burnt malts fill out the middle. Finish is vanilla, some cherries, and a mild hop presence.

M: Medium body, low carbonation, clean and crisp with a dry finish.

D: This is a very nice take on a baltic porter. Not too filling and goes down easily. The sweetness in it lessens the drinkability for me, but is perfect to enjoy a pint or two.

Photo of Duff27
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2006 vintage.

Thin tan head atop a black/brown beer. Some head retention, no lacing.

Roasted malt, chocolate.

Dark malts. Slight metalic taste due to age. Slight cherry flavor came out as it warm, I like that a lot.

Medium mouthfeel, medium carbonation.

Enjoyed it, held up amazingly for how old/low ABV it was. Heard it was a relatively cheap one to aquire, will be on the lookout for older vintages in the future.

Photo of BeerResearcher
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This oddly named Swedish Export is a very interesting Baltic-style Porter. Black Coffee in color with a heavy to medium malty body. The hop content is fairly high, possessing a raw hop bite. Dry and crisp and lightly smoky with a hint of caramel sweetness. Pleasing hop and lightly smoky aroma. This is a well-made, easy to drink porter with a nice beige head...speaking of which, I’d like to experience this dark Swede with a Swedish blonde on a cold winter’s eve!

Photo of jamie2dope
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This is another beer I always see sitting on the shelf, but am never too sure how long it's been there, so I tend to hold off. In this case however I figured it was a nice change of pace to have a strong Porter on a cold Winter night. It poured a nice dark brown, that was somewhat lighter when held up to the light. Smell was somewhat weak, but did have a nice milk chocolate nose. It was also pretty clean in the smell overall. Taste had lots of burnt coffee beans, bitter chocolate, and the aftertaste you get from a nice cigar. Mouthfeel was a notch above medium, and very nice on the palate. This ia a great beer. It would do well as a sipping beer or as a gulper. I personally found no problem in finishing the sample I had. A really well done effort for the Porter style. Usually I am let down by this style, but when it's right, it really hits the spot. Worth a shot for sure.

Photo of 100floods
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Vintage date says 2004. Pours coca-cola brown, with some half finger head. Smells a little sweet, a little roasty, some smokey hints in there too. First sip was good, second was a even better. Smokey, roasted, a little dark chocolate flavors, a little sweet aftertaste, similar to a rauchbier, but it also reminds me of zywiec's porter. I had this beer years ago when I first started getting into beer and I found it again, and I'm glad I did. Such a refreshing difference from most american porters (this one is swedish). The smokey flavors are a nice touch, just enough presence that I won't complain. Nice light beer, nice rich flavors. I'd love to have this on cask sometime.

Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Opaque mahogany, although far from a black hole, with orange and garnet accents. Atop the beer is a splendid looking cap of dense foam the color of chocolate chip cookie dough (sans chocolate chips). Too bad it doesn't last all that long and doesn't leave much lace.

The nose is a bit weaker than it should be. Come on, you're a Baltic porter man, smell like one! It's still pleasant, but the greats of the style have no need to worry. I smell roasted malt, a little chocolate and a minor burst of fruity hops. More power and more complexity would be nice, but it gets the job done.

Stark Porter is identifiable as a Baltic porter, although it doesn't clear the style bar by much. It's definitely on the lighter end of the spectrum and isn't really much bigger than the typical American porter in terms of flavor intensity and body. Having said all that, it is a rather tasty combination of chocolate liqueur and black coffee.

I also appreciate molasses notes with an accompanying fruitiness that must be due to hops. There's also a lactic sweetness attempting to fight through the moderate finishing bitterness. Perhaps this beer could be called a milk Baltic porter, akin to a milk stout. With warming, the mouthfeel (and the flavor) finds its mojo and, thence, respectability.

D.C. & C. SP is good beer, but it falls well short of the Perkuno's Hammers and Sinebrychoffs of the world. My penchant for more full-bodied beer means that I love the Baltic porter style. It also means that my praise of this one is something less than full-throated.

Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 505 ratings.