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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

459 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 459
Reviews: 325
rAvg: 4.12
pDev: 10.92%
Wants: 46
Gots: 19 | FT: 1
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001)
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tavernjef

Minnesota

4.63/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Feloniousmonk was nice enough to break out his last bottle of the 2001 vintage, thanks - this was quite worth it.

Color is dark brown with deep amber highlights with a pinky-finger high head of bumpy, lumpy dark ivory crown, no real lace qualities. Smell is of dark fruits - banana, starfruit, and mixes well with some real quaility darkened caramel sweetness from malts with a notes in toffeeness. Taste is soooo smooth of caramel, lots of maltyness, some great small bitterness of dark citrusy hops noting on banana and orange, notes of toffee, maple syrup, and a even a touch of chocolate lightly making an appearance in there, quite a nice subtle mixing in this offering. Very full bodied with an enormous amount of exceptional creamyness that just slides down making a home in every area of your senses. Wow, this was one great little amount of fun, so sad to see the last sip go.
Thanks again FM!

Serving type: bottle

06-09-2003 20:17:35 | More by tavernjef
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mickeymac

California

4.63/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This is 2001 vintage. It comes it a bottle that looks like it means business. I can picture this thing sitting on a bar on the Barbary Coast with a crowd of drunken prospectors brawling over it. It pours a scary inky-black with a tan head that starts off like gangbusters but settles down a bit after sitting in the glass for a few minutes. The smell is just crazy complex, with hazelnut, roasted barley, prunes, and roadkill.

Topping out the roasty and ripe fruit flavors is a hint of mint and a slight medicinal taste. The mouthfeel is nice and chunky. The drinkability is good for the style; even so, it's not the type of beer you'll want to devote an entire night to drinking. I'm not sure exactly what it is about this beer, but it gave me an overwhelming urge go grab a sledgehammer out of the garage and starting smashing shit. I'm going to start looking for other vintages. Skol.

Serving type: bottle

04-20-2003 22:22:33 | More by mickeymac
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cjgator3

Florida

4.6/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

2004 vintage.

Pours a dark black color with a small fizzy head that quickly dissapears. The nose features molasses, chocolate, roasted coffee, and caramel. The taste features much of the same flavors as present in the nose. Overall, this is an extremely well balanced and highly drinkable porter that stands out as one of my favorites.

Serving type: bottle

04-17-2007 03:18:01 | More by cjgator3
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ProfessorHops

Illinois

4.6/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance- black with a beige head. Looks like Guinness

Smell- bitter, and light. Many different avenues are present in the scent. But the most surprising is that in a way, some of the aroma is similar to an American pilsner giant. (Miller, Bud, or Coors) Weird?

Taste- complex and truly delicious. It has a burnt wood start that thins fast. Water malt then starts over and as well mellows out fast.

Mouthfeel- starts thick, then thins out. Sharp feel, but I like that.

Drinkability- medium ease. But to be honest when the beer is drank fast, details and outlines of the pallet or taste were emphasized, which is normal. But also a sweetness came to be present. A truly good brew that takes you on a small voyage. Exploring taste buds you never knew you had.


An interesting great tasting brew. Complex and intricate. I liked mine extremely cold.

Serving type: bottle

04-03-2006 22:45:26 | More by ProfessorHops
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TripelJ

Florida

4.6/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

WOW! I hate to be trite, but WOW! This is an excellent porter! When I arrived at my usual spot this evening I was enticed into this by my publican. I was a bit skeptical at first, because he described it as 'tangy'. As I take my first sip, I am forced to agree, but not to the extreme I was expecting. This porter starts and ends on the sweet side and does have a very uniqe and very subtle sweet/sour characteristic--hence the 'tang'. I was befuddled to hear that this was only 5.5%, it has far more character than would be expected from such a low ABV beer (rates RIGHT up there with Stepin Razin, although a little sweeter and thus, different) I recommend letting this beer warm up a bit before imbibing, it is far more balanced when warmer.

Serving type: bottle

07-03-2003 23:04:09 | More by TripelJ
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DrJay

Massachusetts

4.6/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2004 vintage. This one poured a clear, very dark brown with purplish highlights and a dense, tan cap. Great head retention and the foam produced plenty of thick, clumpy lacing. A grainy malt and dry cocoa aroma hit my nose first, followed by a light roastiness, dates, and nuts. Very malty with a clean yeast character in the nose. Mild bitterness that sits just underneath the malt notes. Fairly sweet, very malty, with ripe fruit, prunes, and nuts filling out the middle. It finished with a bittersweet chocolate/cocoa flavour. Chewy, malty body with creamy carbonation. Very smooth with a refined texture. Great balance, seems a bit mellowed with some graceful aging. This is a superb baltic porter, highly recommended.

Serving type: bottle

12-18-2007 18:04:48 | More by DrJay
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mfaulk

California

4.6/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

33cl bottle from a systembolaget in Stockholm.

A: rich and dark. Small head, leaves some lacing.

S: smells like a doppelbock. Some raisin bread.

T: Great. Chocolate, raisins. Well-balanced subtle flavors, a tad sweet, then fades to a faint bitterness, like walnuts or baking cocoa.

M: Just right. Satisfyingly body, but it took will power to go through this bottle slowly. Very light carbonation. Smooth and creamy, then fades and makes me want more...

D: 33cl is just too small of a bottle.

Serving type: bottle

04-21-2010 17:37:15 | More by mfaulk
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Naerhu

Japan

4.6/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Deep opaque balck body with a tight rich tan head.

Roasted malt dominates the aroma with vanilla coming in strong. I am get fruit, but not anything more specific.

Relatively mild, with medium body. Chocolate covered espresso beans. Charcoal and kampoyaku (chinese traditional medicine). The berry that was on the nose is no longer apparent.

This is slick and the super fine bubbles make this a masterpiece.

Serving type: bottle

04-24-2004 05:38:11 | More by Naerhu
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PorterLambic

Florida

4.6/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A beautiful pitch black brew with a 1 1/2" tan head that drops to 1/2" smoothly. Some scattered, coarse lace.
Smell was of roasted malt, oak, coffee with a hint of toastiness to it.
Taste was wonderfully complex, with roasted malt and a coffee tinged oakiness, a bit of dark chocolate & a hint of vanilla (?) this was just perfectly balanced.
Mouthfeel was very nice, creamy, full-bodied and smooth with just the right amount of carbonation.
This brew is supremely drinkable, in fact, the only thing I can possibly knock it on: I would have liked a little smoky flovor to it. I would have gone almost all 5's then. A tremendous beer.
For the record, mine was a 2001 on the label (the picture on the site shows 1997) and I noticed at the bottom of the back label was printed "Best before April 2010. Yes, 2010. A three year old beer with 7 more to go. I'll be looking for more of this.

April, 2007

I found more! A 2004 vintage. The appearance score drops slightly due to minimal head retention but the taste and smell increase due to finding the previously sought smoke character which was all over the nose, mouth and aftertaste that just lingered forever (with vanilla) at the back of the throat. Buy it, drink it, want more.

Serving type: bottle

07-07-2004 23:54:01 | More by PorterLambic
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unHipHopHead

Washington

4.58/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Should mention that the bottle I purchased was vintage 2004 and discounted from $7.99 to $5.99... there may have been some heavy moving involved.

a: a full head that resolved into a thin lace with medium bubbles attracted to one side. also, jet black color with caramelized bead and bubbles.

s: lots of molasses and a hint of chocolate. Like an aged scotch, I detect hints of woody and vanilla notes as well as a deep earthiness.

t: heavy roasted flavors with a bite of charcoal and sweetness around all. Flavors of espresso, molasses and dark chocolate.

m: smooth, thick and syrupy with a hint of carbonation.

d: an extremely solid porter that one could enjoy as a final wish.

As a Porter lover this was an enjoyable experience. All in all, this is one of the best Porters I have tried. I generally enjoy the Deschutes Black Butte (especially cask!) as well as the Alaskan Smoked. I wasn't expecting much from a Swedish brew but wow, this is a winner.

Serving type: bottle

02-01-2010 23:44:05 | More by unHipHopHead
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deBeers

California

4.58/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Argang 1997 8.82 fl. oz.

Smells rich like a baltic porter. Smells of sweet molasses out of the bottle in a subdued way. Also notes of chocolate, fig, brown sugar?, old leather...

Minimal carbonation with a small caramel head that disapates into swirls after one sip. Deep mahogany in color, opaque, and inviting in stature for a nine year old brew.

Taste is so smooth, almost creamy, and perfectly balanced. This is not your average Baltic porter. It has a lower abv and is very mature, aged to perfection, and begging to be sipped around a small fire with best friends/loved ones.

When setting a concentric ring of lace forms around the edge of the glass. I think the peak of this beer may have been a few years earlier but this is such high quality and so well kept that I find it a pleasure to have the opportunity to consume.

Definately let this warm up in your mouth for a bit and you'll be in for a treat. That's when the true complexity starts showing imho. Hints of chocolate and molasses come out when I swish the beer around in my mouth under pressure. Yum.

Worth seeking out for a special treat.

Serving type: bottle

10-27-2006 03:46:21 | More by deBeers
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neonbrown82

Nebraska

4.55/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This bottle is from 2001, and it's still kicking. This is a very good porter, and it's a shame that it has been discontinued. Still plenty of stock to burn through at work, however.

Pours very thin with a jet black color and a thin white head that recedes to a ring around the glass. Leaves a beautiful lacing that ever so slowly washes down the sides of the glass until ultimately rejoining the beer. Carbonation is still active after several years of dormancy.

The smell is quite sweet. Has a very mild roast to it. A bit of caramel. Not a whole lot to add. Smells quite typical of an English porter even though it's a baltic porter from Sweden.

The taste is great. One of my favorite porters. Very mild with a nice chocolate and caramel backing along with a very slight roast. Very refreshing. Some interesting yeasty esters follow the initial taste.

The mouthfeel is a bit on the thin and watery side, which does not detract from the enjoyability of beverage but merely serves to make it more easily drinkable. It's a sure winner in that department. I am somewhat curious as to how this beer got the classification of a baltic porter (other than the geography, obviously) since this seems to be more of a mild English porter more than anything. I am not a stickler for style guidelines however, as long as your stout doesn't taste like a pale, for instance. This is definitely a good beer whatever you call it.

Serving type: bottle

10-29-2005 07:52:16 | More by neonbrown82
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DoubleJ

California

4.55/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This is from the 2004 batch. From the Wine Exchange in Orange, on to the beer:

The black/opaque color and light tan head make a great contrast with each other. Smells of smoky/roasted malts with a sweet banana flavor. The flavor is strong, yet mellow. The bitterness is a burnt one from the malts. Trace of chocolate. The beer sweetens as it warms up, adding a hinted fudge flavor. It was extremely smooth, probabaly from the aging, and was much too easy to consume. It's so easy, a caveman can do it. HA! HA! But seriously, try it out if you can get it.

Serving type: bottle

05-09-2007 06:02:16 | More by DoubleJ
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yelterdow

New Jersey

4.55/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

16.9 oz. bottle, served at between cellar and fridge temperature in a Duvel tulip. Bottled in 2000, drink by date reads November 2010.

Appearance- Rich, chocolate brown goodness fills my glass supporting a finger-thick light tan head... Spotty lacing dots the surface as the head slowly breaks apart.

Aroma- Smells like a cross between a vintage old ale and a porter... the leather, mildew, and century-old hardbound book elements blend together in glorious fashion with Tootsie Roll chocolate, dark fudge, and dark fruit. No coffee in the aroma, surprisingly... but that's fine with me. Enough complexities here to go on for days.

Taste- Distinguished... Established... Accomplished... these three words come to mind after spending some time with this beer in my mouth. Mature and stately, it's grown up... a beverage with time and sophistication under its belt. The flavors, difficult to decipher individually because of the superb integration, are so cohesive that I marvel at its balance. Figs and plums dance in a molasses-soaked liquor of divinity.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability- Viscous but relatively light in the mouth, the smooth rise and fall is wonderfully complementary to the beer's texture. At 5.5%, it has subtleties and complexities that don't usually reveal themselves in a beer of this strength... and the European hop profile really seals the envelope in the superb finish. Fabulous beer, a gem worth seeking out.

Serving type: bottle

10-03-2006 04:42:43 | More by yelterdow
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fretlessman71

Colorado

4.53/5  rDev +10%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pertinent Preliminary Comments: This is a bottle from 2001. Heard glowing comments about this from at least 2 people; had a bottle months ago and wasn’t too impressed. But I’m willing to give it a 2nd chance; hey, I’m Swedish, and people gave ME a 2nd chance, so why not?

APPEARANCE: Dr. Pepper brown with cherry highlights. Tan head, not too dense, not too big. Only a little bit of lacing.

AROMA: Fig, chocolate, espresso, black currant, bubblegum, banana even. Not much in the way of hops.

FLAVOR: Hearty roasted malt character; not quite burnt, but almost. Not too sweet, but just enough; smooth like a good Schwarz might be as well. Chocolate and coffee are strongest. Anise, charcoal, and pepper aren’t so strong but still detectable. A subtle metallic sourness as well – might be the hops poking through a bit. Much better than the first bottle I had – must have been mishandled.

MOUTHFEEL: Good weight to it; somewhat slick. Carbonation just right.

DRINKABILITY: VERY good. Hard to get bored of these, and at a whole 5.5% ABV (some Baltic!) you’ll have plenty of room for one more.

OVERALL COMMENTS: A big improvement over the first time. This is a really well balanced beer, with just enough to keep me interested over the long haul. Nice to see a brew with a lower ABV for lightweights like me, too. Now, if these only came in 6ers at a decent price...

Serving type: bottle

05-26-2006 07:45:48 | More by fretlessman71
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budgood1

Minnesota

4.53/5  rDev +10%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

2001 vintage.
pours out a nearly opaque, dark crimson colour. thin wispy head and slight wisps of lace. sweet sugary aroma...raisins and molasses come to mind...hints of chocolate and caramel. upon first taste, the first thing to hit me was the extremely silky smooth and velvety mouthfeel...leading to swirling flavours of semi-sweet chocolate and slightly bitter espresso. a magnificent combination. a sweet but dry finish; lingering bitterness on the tongue. supremely drinkable and down right delicious. one of the best beers i have ever had the pleasure of drinking. i will be getting a stash of these for sure! excellent tonic for a blustery and cold day in north dakota/northern minnesota.

Serving type: bottle

09-18-2003 19:57:33 | More by budgood1
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feloniousmonk

Minnesota

4.53/5  rDev +10%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A definitive ebony hue. Good, crackling tan head. As Fred Eckhart recommends, put this one to your ear and listen! Aroma is a blast of espresso, cocoa, anise and molasses. Rich and roasted, with loads of bitterness on the palate and a tenacious finish. Complex, if a bit gritty. Not a brew for novices or girly-men, this is stiff and substantial stuff. Label says best before August 2O1O, but who could wait that long? Unfortunately, the brewery has become bereft of their senses and is discontinuing this classic, so grab one if you can.

Serving type: bottle

12-01-2002 16:57:34 | More by feloniousmonk
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tbryan5

Louisiana

4.5/5  rDev +9.2%

05-02-2014 01:31:55 | More by tbryan5
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renegadeburger

New Jersey

4.5/5  rDev +9.2%

02-21-2013 12:40:10 | More by renegadeburger
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djeucalyptus

Oregon

4.5/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

1pt. 9oz bottle, 2004. Pours a rich caramel building to a near-black in the glass with a meringue-like pillowy head of a light cream color that took eons to dissipate. Beautiful caramel lacing follows down the glass. beautiful.

aroma is subtle, with some sweet malt, molasses, and a bit of toasted bread. as it warms, a bit more bittersweet chocolate, raisins, and cocoa come forth.

Taste of sweet malts, caramel, brewed sumatran coffee (no bitterness anywhere), brown cane sugar and light molasses. More earthy and nutty malts, as well as hints of bitter cocoa come through in the middle. The finish has just a hint of hops to keep this one from being too sweet. More complex than the average baltic... beautiful.

Mouthfeel is brilliant and rich with a light and creamy feel. It's not high abv and it's fairly middle of the road in terms of richness for a baltic, so the medium mouthfeel with moderate carbonation is perfect. Not syrupy, bitter, or astringent, this is one solid brew.

I wish I had more! This is an awesome Baltic Porter, and would definitely serve as a great introduction to the style if you can find it. Smooth drinking with some great flavors. Definitely worth tracking down.

Serving type: bottle

12-01-2008 19:41:33 | More by djeucalyptus
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JohneHoodlum

Pennsylvania

4.5/5  rDev +9.2%

04-08-2012 23:45:03 | More by JohneHoodlum
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leagr

Missouri

4.5/5  rDev +9.2%

08-10-2012 15:11:40 | More by leagr
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jmdrpi

Pennsylvania

4.5/5  rDev +9.2%

11-22-2011 04:53:39 | More by jmdrpi
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ERRL710

Illinois

4.5/5  rDev +9.2%

10-20-2013 16:33:59 | More by ERRL710
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Zimbo

United Kingdom (Scotland)

4.5/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2009 Vintage

Ingmar Bergman, Strindberg, Peter Forsberg, Michael Thelvin and Abba use to come to mind when I thought of Sweden's contribution to civilization. Now I have to include the astounding Carnegie Porter as well having just polished off a bottle in short work.

Poured partially into an ISO tasting glass with the lion's share in a high tumbler.

Lovely soft dark chocolately roasty nose. Pours a dark brown black which while perhaps not a crystal clear in colour as I might have expected but gives a deep brown shine at the bottom of the glass. Slick slightly rocky tan head.

Beautiful smooth roasty chocolate-like taste to start. Velvety suave medium firm body. Effortlessly luscious but controlled chocolate and wonderfully succulent. Classy, firm, restrained, luxurious, complete.

Undoubtedly benchmark porter. Class in a glass. Let the prostrating begin.

Serving type: bottle

03-09-2011 19:33:26 | More by Zimbo
Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 459 ratings.