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Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
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347 Reviews
BEER STATS
Reviews:
347
Ratings:
563
Avg:
4.12
pDev:
13.59%
 
 
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Carnegie Porter 5,5%Carnegie Porter 5,5%
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB
Sweden | website

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

Added by BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

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Reviews: 347 | Ratings: 563
Photo of puboflyons
4.37/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

From the 12 fl. oz. bottle that has a 2014 date but not clear to me if it as old as that. Sampled on May 22, 2016. My 2,700th rating.

Dark brown to near black pour with a short-lived tan head.

Aroma of caramel malts, sweetness, toffee, dark roasted malts, and a low earthy hop presence. Really inviting.

Medium to bold body but incredibly smooth and creamy.

Very forward sweet roasted malt character with dark malts, a little chocolate, and a mild bitter finish. This was said to be one of Beer Connoisseur Michael Jackson's favorite beers and I can see why.

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Photo of Libeertarian
3.74/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

From notes taken 05/01/16:

Dark brown, either very dark or barely clear. Tan, fluffy head of moderate to good retention. Patchy lace ringlets. Roasted grain and dark fruit esters to nose. Roasty, dark fruity, smokey-tart palate, in that order. Also, earthy to tobacco-like hopping, throughout but most prominent in finish. Medium to full in body, sloshy and sudsy, but syrupy

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Photo of WoodBrew
3.85/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

The Carnegie Porter is solid.....middle of the road light English like porter. It poured an deep mahogany with white head that left some lace. The scent was roast and peat. The taste had earth, roast and a touch of grenadine. The mouthfeel was lighter in body with decent carbonation. Overall it was good.

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Photo of Beginner2
4.43/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This has become an old friend. (And is better than a few of them, too.)
I am very close to the Alstrom Bros on this rating. I see no need to repeat.
When American porters get this subtle in blending sweet and bitter, we will have arrived.

Reviewed in Roger Protz' " 300 Beers To Try Before You Die!"
Also on the bucket-list of "1001". Definitely do not miss this one.

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Photo of BeerWithMike
4.52/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Sampled back on 2/5/16. Comes in a single 330ml (11.2 ounce) bottle for $3.50 from Spirit World in Omaha. Bottle chilled down to 36 degrees F in my beer cooler and poured in to a snifter glass.

Brew pours pitch-black in color with close to a 1-finger foamy beige head. A decent amount of sticky lacing was seen when sipped that stayed in place on the glass. Aroma is of dark roasted malts, dark fruits (cherry) with a hint of chocolate and coffee even. Bit more going on with the taste was there is a hint of caramel malt and maybe molasses as well. Very smooth and so very good. No bitterness is noted. Medium+-bodied with perfect carbonation. A fantastic brew from Sweden which is probably my first from that country. Worth trying for sure if you can find it.

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Photo of Ninjakillzu
4.71/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

L: Poured into a Pint Defiance tulip. Body is a very dark brown with a thin tan ring around the glass.

S: Smells like a Belgian strong dark or a scotch ale. Caramel malt, dark fruits, roasted coffee, and dark chocolate.

T: Same as the nose. The roastiness is more apparent.

F: Medium light bodied with mild carbonation. Body is a bit watery on the finish.

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Photo of woodychandler
4.41/5  rDev +7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

It is not often that I get excited about the prospect of reducing to Beer Backlog here as Chez Woody, but this one has me jazzed! I so rarely get to try Swedish beers & the double-plus bonus of a Baltic Porter really revs my engine.

From the bottle: "Carnegie Porter was brewed for the first time in 1836 and tastes the same today as it did then. Carnegie Porter has a creamy head with a scent of coffee. Its sweet and wellrounded [sic] flavor is balanced by the bitterness of the hops. Storage helps the flavor mature and enhances its harmony."

I Pop!ped the cap and gave it a pretty solid pour, resulting in a finger of fizzy, light-tan head with moderate retention, falling away to a skim of wisps. Color was Dark Brown to Very Dark Brown (SRM = > 27, < 34) with NE-quality clarity and garnet highlights. Nose was redolent with notes of: smoke; caramel; dark chocolate; dried, dark cherries and molasses. Yow! Mouthfeel was medium-to-full, not quite creamy, but near it. The taste was great - leathery with a cherry flavor, followed by a dark chocolate richness. I find 5.5% VERY hard to believe, Mr. Smart! Would you believe that the entire building is surrounded by a troop of angry Boy Scouts, each one armed with a loaded slingshot? Enough of this tomfoolery! Finish was semi-sweet, close to semi-dry, but not quite there. Jeez, Louise, I really like this beer!

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Photo of stevoj
3.37/5  rDev -18.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Bottle from Boise Coop. Right in the wheelhouse for a classic porter. Dark, sweet and malty, pour has nice fluffy head which leaves streaky lacing. Nose is sweet malt, leading into flavors of molasses, peat and sweet malts. Classic porter.

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Photo of smakawhat
4.24/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured from the bottle into a nonic pint glass.

Deep walnut brown, with a very nice ruby edge for the body color. Head manages only about a finger tall on the pour, no lacing, but a fine milky tan color head and mixed soapy to creamy top. A bit of ring lace manages to stick around in places.

Really interesting nose. Mild clove notes and sticky almost licorice like qualities. Hints more to molasses but not as strong, with a real thick sensation. Bakery like almost pumpernickel and thick dough, a real dark unleavened bread sensation permeates throughout. Very neat and inviting but also quite unexpected. Almost a bit of meat jerky like quality aromas as well.

Palate brings much of the same and a good amount of pleasure. Light bodied simple classic roast qualities, but hints of mild molasses and licorice in the mid palate not unlike the the expected nose. A real nice controlled sweetness that comes somewhere between sweet milk and molasses. Creamy light finish with a mouthfeel and flavor that hints at a much bigger brew than the abv would indicate as well. Chewy, with a distinct palate for a porter. Bit of a prickly carbonation finish that also kicks in amongst the thick body too.

Very interesting classic unique brew. Hard to nail this one down, it's in it's own little space for sure.

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Photo of jzlyo
3.51/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Aroma is dark malts, toffee and, annoying, cola. The flavor is dark malts, toffee/caramel, the same annoying slight cola, mild chocolate and an acidic/slightly sweet finish. Definitely could've done without the cola, although it did fade thankfully.

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Photo of Jwale73
3.66/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

12oz. bottle served in a can glass. Best before 30 October 15 printed on the back label. Pours the color and clarity of cola with a loose, 1/8th inch, khaki-colored head the quickly disperses into an oily slick and a thin tight band around the shoulders. Nose is slightly vinous, but I also get dark fruits and carob. Taste consistent with nose - fairly dull and subdued with a slight, wet cardboard presence. Mouthfeel is light in body with a mild, even carbonation. All and all, decent but perhaps past its prime. I'll have to try to procure a fresher bottle and update my notes. Not recommended for extended cellaring.

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Photo of pat61
4.75/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

L: Pours brilliant deep dark brown with a thin, clingy tan cap.
S: Chocolate, light coffee.
T: Starts slight sweet and ends dry, some dried fruit – mostly prune, no burnt or harsh roast flavors, moderately bitter. Light tartness on the finish.
F: Creamy, clean and smooth with above average carbonation and medium body.
O: Clean, smooth, easy to drink Baltic Porter.

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Photo of Darkmagus82
4.05/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured from bottle into a pint glass

Appearance – The beer pours a dark brown color with two fingers of a cream colored head. The head has a good level of retention, slowly fading to leave a great level of foamy lace on the sides of the glass.

Smell – The aroma of the beer is quite heavy of a sweeter molasses and caramel smell along with some other nice roasty notes. Along with these smells comes some darker fruit aromas of prune and plum as well as some other aromas of chocolate and a little bit of a grainy smell.

Taste – The taste begins with a smooth and sweet taste with lots of caramel and chocolate mixed with a little bit of a dark fruit flavors of plum and prune. Other notes of a roasted malt taste are also present upfront, creating a nice smooth base flavor for the brew. As the taste advances the fruit fades a little bit all while more and more caramel and chocolate as well as some molasses comes to the tongue. With a hint of vanilla and a tiny bit of an herbal flavor coming at the very end, one is left with a sweet and smooth, roasty flavor to linger on the tongue.

Mouthfeel – The body of the beer is on the average side in terms of its thickness and creaminess with a carbonation level that is on the slightly lower side. For the porter style and the darker but sweet flavors of the brew, the feel is rather nice and makes for a flavorful, but easy drinking porter overall.

Overall – This is a very nice easy drinking porter at of only 5.5 %. A quite tasty brew overall and one to try if you have the opportunity.

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Photo of ArrogantB
3.36/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

11.2oz bottle $3.99. I remember reading this was a classic porter so why not. Black with a filmy head that laces the glass. Aroma is yeast and dough. Flavor is slightly smoky, roast malts, touch of chocolate. Not my favorite but not bad, worth a try.

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Photo of tillmac62
4.35/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

2010 vintage. Pours a clear dark amber with a rich dark ruby cast. Excellent head volume, lacing and retention. Complex nose of dark fruit (fig, plum), molasses and caramel over notes of chocolate and a hint of coffee. Light medium body with a bit of creaminess over a smooth texture. Normal carbonation with a bit of effervescence in the middle and a nice burst in the finish. The World Class flavor profile is reasonably intense, quite complex and masterfully balanced. It begins with a caramel sweet rush that soon flows into the dark fruits. In the middle, molasses comes to the forefront and fades into a mild roast and hop bitterness. As it approaches the finish, chocolate sweetness is evident and oak notes (oxidative aging) are present as is a subtle smokiness. The finish is a slow fade of sweetness into a mild hop bitterness with just a hint of dryness.

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Photo of WoodButcher
4.24/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

A: dark black/brown with only a hint of ruby color when held up to the light. Head is thick and creamy, slow to dissipate leaving lacing on the glass.

S: prunes/plums, with a bit of tobacco and chocolate. Smells of molasses.

T: similar to smell, there are lots of dark notes with prunes, molasses and a hint of chocolate and a bit of burnt character, but only slightly. This reminds me of a German double bock rather than a porter with the earthy, molasses finish. Plenty of malt character but not cloyingly sweet like some porters. A delayed, mildly bitter finish rounds out the palate.

Notes: served from an 11.2oz bottle into a pint, mouthfeel is a bit more sharply carbonated than I expected. That is the only thing I didn't care for, but it wasn't bad, merely unexpected. And once I adjusted to the more double bock taste than anticipated I was able to enjoy it. Not surprising given it is a Swede. In fact, it is nice to enjoy a beer from somewhere other than the usual suspects. At 5.5% and a bit rich I won't be quaffing pints, but this is a very enjoyable beer and worth seeking out. Throw some beer love Sweden's way.

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Photo of T-34-85
4.01/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

2013 Bottle - poured into a snifter glass.

L: Pours an inky black with a 1 finger light tan head that dissipates into a thin ring that leaves lacing around that glass as I consume.

S: Bready/biscuity aroma with a molasses sweetness .

T: A predominate taste of roasty sweetness with a moderate level of bitterness that lingers on the tongue, and a slight bite of sourness.

F: Nice carbonation for a smooth mouthfeel.

Overall: Very good porter. Nice malty sweet beer with a roasty effect.

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Photo of keithmurray
4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance - dark brown body with tan head

Smell - cocoa powder, chocolate, molasses, toffee

Taste - chocolate, molasses, cocoa, toffee, hint of tobacco on the end

Mouthfeel - medium bodied, medium carbonation, slight sweetness upfront, tobacco on the finish, thinner than other examples within the style

Overall - good beer that I've been waiting a while to try for a while, tasty beer at 5.5% ABV

price point - $3.50/11.2 oz single

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Photo of Immortale25
4.18/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured into a Funky Buddha Brewery snifter. Can't decipher the best before date, but the last two numbers are "15" so I'm going to assume it's good until 2015.

A- Pours a mostly opaque black color with a 1/4 inch tan head that retains a bit before becoming a thick ring around the edge of the glass and some sparse wisps of surface foam. Semi-resilient lacing leaves a thin, jagged ring behind.

S- Milk chocolate aroma with some medium dark roast. Notes of vanilla and a touch of booze.

T- Straightforward porter flavor with more medium dark roast accompanied by notes of coffee, more vanilla and dark bread. Mild bitterness rounds things out making for a tasty drink.

M- Semi-creamy with medium-low carbonation and a full body.

O- A porter by the numbers but executed so well. Very drinkable as well as very flavorful. Now I see what all the hubbub's about.

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Photo of aleigator
3.5/5  rDev -15%

Bottle from rlgk, thanks Ronny!

Perfect beige head, brown-black color.

Aromas of bready, roasted malts and coffee.

Rich malts, going along with toffee, earthy notes, hints of chocolate, coffee and smoke. Sweet malts melt together with chocolate, supported by a perfect fitting carbonation, resulting in a smoky, warm finish. Malt goes through different stages on the palate, mingles up with coffee and later on chocolate, but keeps being the most defining ingredient of this beer the whole time. Oily, smooth mouthfeel, with a bitter finish.

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Photo of templar316
5/5  rDev +21.4%

2004 vintage in my I Believe snifter. Still has a surprising carbonation herringbone head falls back quickly but clings softly to the side of the glass. All the rough edges have been smoothed of this, leaving polished obsidian. Madagascar vanilla, cocoa and the hint of black currant roll past. Evaporating into a dry licorice finish. A dark pleasure!

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Photo of ryan1788a5
4.2/5  rDev +1.9%

11.2oz bottle poured into a pint glass.

A: Very dark brown in color, near black. Beige head settles soon. Small spots of lacing.

S: Molasses, plum, rum raisin, caramel, bready. Faint whiffs of brown cocoa and grassy hops.

T: Brown and black cocoa, caramel and molasses, some yeast, plum, faint grassy hops. Medium sweet. Oak? Very subtle licorice sort of taste. Brown sugar and hints of roasted coffee beans and smoke on the finish.

M: Medium bodied. Some sense of weight and heft in the mouth, but it stops just short of being sticky. Carbonation is very fine-bubbled and scrubs gently. Silky and texturally pleasant.

O: A nice true to style, old school Baltic porter. One of the style benchmarks.

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Photo of BillRoth
4.5/5  rDev +9.2%

Popped a 10yo bottle of Carnegie Stark Porter in anticipation of trip to Sweden. Cheers to Bark!
Happily no significant oxidation. Have had this many times, but this time worthy writing about. Beer was a soft wash of roasted coffee and bitter chocolate. Excellent mouth feel, which is delightful considering the rather low abv. My 61 yo old nose doesn't pick up much these days, but there is still a nice roasted grain scent and a hint of fruity sweetness. This is just a great porter. May possibly be my favorite ever. As a lover of Porter...No small praise.

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Photo of GreesyFizeek
3.94/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle purchased at Beers of the World in Rochester, NY. '04 vintage.

Pours an inky black, with a small filmy head, less than 1/4 inch, and no lacing.

Smells like sherry, port, chocolate, dark fruits, and roasted malt.

I am dumbfounded that a porter of this low of an ABV could last a decade, but it has. It seems a bit thin, and slightly watery, but there are some really nice flavors here. There's vanilla, chocolate, roasted malt, slight oxidation, sherry, port, and lots of dark fruit flavors. Pretty swell.

This one is fairly light bodied for the Baltic Porter style, but with that, it's still very drinkable, and tasty. There is a very low level of carbonation.

This one was impressive because it lasted so long and remained drinkable- it also helps that it tasted pretty good!

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Photo of Tsar_Riga
4.31/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A - Dark brown, nearly black brew, opaque with brown highlights, and a light tan head that reduces to a ring, with mild lacing.

S - Delicious nose of malts and burnt sugars, molasses, with a slight boozy character.

T - Delivers on the nose, but in a quiet, restrained manner. The flavor showcases caramelized sugar and molasses, with a slight hint of smokiness. Very little bitterness.

M - Smooth and surprising light on the tongue, with a mild acidity.

O - The smells from this beer are robust, and while the beer is more restrained when it hits the palate, the overall result is a top-notch porter.

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Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 347 ratings.