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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

478 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 478
Reviews: 328
rAvg: 4.12
pDev: 10.92%
Wants: 47
Gots: 21 | FT: 2
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001)
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Photo of krunchie
4.38/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours an opaque black liquid with a nice tan, very thick and creamy head. Looks delicious! The head was almost entirely gone after 2 minutes...too bad, it looked great. Left a bit of nice lacing though.

S: Black malts and barley, I mean really you can really smell the raw grain! I like it, it smells fresh. Raisins and dark rye bread, some sweet milk chocolate and figs. Dried fruit and resin, no hop aroma. Estery and roasty.

T: Mmm, very roasty and toasty. Black malts, can really get the raw malt thing again. Malty and balanced, once again no hops (I don't want any hop flavor in this style of beer ethier, so that's a pro) and perfect bitterness. Less fruitiness in the flavor, much more raw roasted barley flavor and coffee. Get some more resin and a slight smoked wood flavor, quite grainy and hard caramelized like bread crust. Molasses and an "aged" character I like very much. Not very fruity in the flavor, very clean and refreshing which I think really makes this beer outstanding! A true winner

M/D: Easy to drink, medium body with perfect CO2 for the style. Smooth on the palate and crisp on the tongue, creamy but not too thick. Goes down easily!

I was surprised, this is a mighty fine beer! Great flavor and a clean roastiness, but still refreshing and leaving you wanting more. I should definitely go buy some more...

krunchie, Feb 14, 2010
Photo of unHipHopHead
4.58/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Should mention that the bottle I purchased was vintage 2004 and discounted from $7.99 to $5.99... there may have been some heavy moving involved.

a: a full head that resolved into a thin lace with medium bubbles attracted to one side. also, jet black color with caramelized bead and bubbles.

s: lots of molasses and a hint of chocolate. Like an aged scotch, I detect hints of woody and vanilla notes as well as a deep earthiness.

t: heavy roasted flavors with a bite of charcoal and sweetness around all. Flavors of espresso, molasses and dark chocolate.

m: smooth, thick and syrupy with a hint of carbonation.

d: an extremely solid porter that one could enjoy as a final wish.

As a Porter lover this was an enjoyable experience. All in all, this is one of the best Porters I have tried. I generally enjoy the Deschutes Black Butte (especially cask!) as well as the Alaskan Smoked. I wasn't expecting much from a Swedish brew but wow, this is a winner.

unHipHopHead, Feb 01, 2010
Photo of rarbring
4.25/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This bottle is from 2009.

A very dark brown beer, almost black. The head is tan and melts down leaving quite some lace.

The smell is like stepping into a storage room full of dried plums, dates, figs and raisins. And somebody poured a cask of sherry over them and smashed the cask leaving some woody aromas as well.

The beer is rather light to drink, the taste is vinous and sweet with dried fruits. The hops are noticeable - probably due to being quite young. Hints of chocolate and coffee.

A creamy nice mouth-feel, a medium light carbonation.

A beer to drink quietly after dinner.

rarbring, Jan 24, 2010
Photo of Jayli
4.1/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

consumed 1/16
2004 vintage picked up at Gordon's in Watertown
Thanks to speakorspasm for the recommendation

A: This beer pours a thin deep, dark, chocolate brown with a one finger of creamy offwhite head. Some spotty lacing is left on the glass.

S: Nose is heavy on the fruits, prune and raisins really dominate the nose, and hints of caramel malt.

T: Taste is rather sweet. Dark fruits really dominate at the initial step. Slight hint of raisins, but prune is the real dominant fruit flavoring. Chocolate and deep burnt malts fill out the middle. Finish is vanilla, some cherries, and a mild hop presence.

M: Medium body, low carbonation, clean and crisp with a dry finish.

D: This is a very nice take on a baltic porter. Not too filling and goes down easily. The sweetness in it lessens the drinkability for me, but is perfect to enjoy a pint or two.

Jayli, Jan 17, 2010
Photo of StJamesGate
3.98/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2007 vintage.

Pours dark ruby with webs and carpets of off white lace. Where's the nose? Very light aroma of bark. Roasty malts up front with ash, cold coffee, and milk chocolate. Sweet middle. Mint and herbal hops close. Dry, light, smooth, round.

All about balance. Perhaps a challenge to what some other brewers are putting out as a Baltic, which is basically an Imperial Porter. But this is understated, subtle and oh so drinkable.

StJamesGate, Dec 28, 2009
Photo of KTCamm
4.15/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Spotted at the Morton Williams in NYC. 500 ml (or so) bottle. Poured into a pint glass. 2004 vintage as identified on the bottle.

Pours jet black with low white foam. Jet black, compltely blocks out the light.

Very minor roasted smell.

Lightly sweet chocolate taste, some roasting in there. Hints of minor fruits - plums, raisins, etc. Dry finish. Oddly full in the mouthfeel, but watery at time as well. But very smooth. Notes of coffee taste.

A very well made porter, good drinkability.

KTCamm, Nov 27, 2009
Photo of brownbeer
3.95/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2004 vintage poured into a snifter.

A- Dark brown with a thin cream color head.

S- Malted milk balls, cocoa powder, with a certain fruitiness.

T- Yoo-hoo, a light fruity coffee note that's slighty bitter.

M- Light with very little carbonation, which defies all because the head retention is great.

D- Very drinkable due to the light body and lack of intensity.

brownbeer, Oct 16, 2009
Photo of augustgarage
4.45/5  rDev +8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

To celebrate the return of darkness and rain to Los Angeles (if not mudslides), I decided to have a Swedish themed Monday evening. So, I blasted Bathory, Watain, and Marduk while putting together a quick smörgåsbord of mustard herring, creamed chard, and risgrynspudding, consumed while re-watching Lilja 4-Ever.

To top things off, I found a suitable beer to begin (and round out) my evening.

Poured from a 500mL bottle into my Dogfish Head shaped pint glass. Bottled in 2006.

Dense seal brown body with a truly massive tan head. Mesmerizing tentacle-like lacing, suggestive of Jackson Pollock. Settles to a messy finger of foam with perpetual retention. No real legs, though not surprising as the ABV is on the low end of the scale for the style.

Potent aromatics - pumpernickel, coffee cake, toasted malt, licorice, along with lots of dark fruit esters.

Roast coffee, earth, figs, caramel, chocolate covered malt balls, and honey form the palate. Sweetness lasts for quite some time, but the finish becomes very toasty and slightly dry. Exceptional spice notes as well: clove, coriander, and hints of cardamom.

Not quite medium-bodied. Carbonation is pretty high, making this a very mouth-filling and creamy brew.

The most drinkable baltic porter I've ever had, without relinquishing much if any flavor despite the lower ABV. If not for the high price, I would choose this as a session ale over many English or American porters.

augustgarage, Oct 13, 2009
Photo of OtherShoe2
4.13/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours deep black with a slight partial ring of a tan head.

Scents of deep roast malt and dark raisin bread. Some herbal notes as well. Not an overpowering scent, though.

Dark roasted malt with a great balance between bitterness and sweet, with a bite of sweet fruit that reminded me of booze-filled cherries covered with dark chocolate. Seriously!

Nice consistency with some oily qualities.

Overall, this one went fast. Not overly boozy, and great balance, body, and strenght/complexity of flavor. A very good and interesting porter to try. From 2004 batch.

OtherShoe2, Oct 05, 2009
Photo of Evil_Pidde
4.08/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Black (with faint deep red notes), with a light brown large thick head that stays for some time before it dissipates leaving some lacings.

S: Heavy roasted sweet malt, faint raisin, some liqourish and some chocolate and faint coffee.

T: Sweet heavy roasted malt, with some dried dark fruit, chocolate and coffee. There is also hops, mostly bitter, but I can sence faint floral notes as well.

M: Body is medium, carbonation is moderate, the bewerage is creamy and smooth. The aftertaste is long and lingering with sweetness but also dryness and bitterness.

D: Well balanced. Nice and a bit complex. A very nice porter from Sweden.

Evil_Pidde, Sep 30, 2009
Photo of bobsy
4.3/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle from Tucker's Maltings. Drank in a caravan.

Pours a deep mahogany with a finger of tan head that soon dissipates to a thin and patchy film. Only a few spots of lace are left behind. The nose has an extremely enticing mix of chocolate, roasted malt and very strong and sweet dark fruit. Once the beer is tasted it reveals a large treacle character, which is more than likely the result if waves of raisin, chocolate and brown sugar melding together. This is accompanied by a light coffee roast and moderate bitterness. Smooth, almost creamy mouthfeel with a hint of alcohol in the tail. This beer drinks bigger than it is, which is a great feat for a lower ABV Baltic porter, and probably makes it one of the few that could be sessioned.

bobsy, Sep 08, 2009
Photo of jahfool
4.03/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

An unexpected treat, had never heard of the beer before- "Pripps Carnegie Porter." Dark black appearance, decent head. Mild aroma, rich malty taste with huge roast and chocolate flavor and a nice hoppy edge. Full mouthfeel, solid drinkability. Fantastic porter, almost stout-ish. Very well balanced, clean flavo. Would instantly order again if seen. Definitely recommended.

jahfool, Aug 22, 2009
Photo of ricke
3.25/5  rDev -21.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

2009 vintage.

A: Dark brown with a tanned head that settles into some lacings.

S: Smooth malts, rye bread, caramel and notes of vinous fruits. A hint of coffee. The taste is somewhat mild and restrained, but rather good.

T: The taste is mostly sweet with bready malts to the fore. Notes of vinous fruits, wood and a hint of coffee. Faint note of chocolate. The finish is rather short with a minimal bitterness, mineral notes, wood and malty sweetness.

M: Medium body. The carbonation is of the sort you most often find in mass produced fizzy lagers.

D: This is a good beer, but no more. I like the vinous and fruity character it showcases. But it's kind of restrained, both in terms of aromas and flavors, and it lacks complexity, and in my opinion, its reputation as one of the best porters in the world is greatly exaggerated. Perhaps it once was, but the way the brewery has treated this classic beer during the last decade is embarrassing.

ricke, Aug 15, 2009
Photo of kylesobrien
4.33/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Pours a deep dark shade of black. The ale is somewhat translucent, revealing a slight shade of tawny red if the glass is introduced to some form of backlight.

Head is a frothy, creamy brown. Dissipates somewhat a few minutes after pouring, but leaves a bit of lacy fringe around the rim of the glass.

Smell: Aroma is of dark bitter chocolate with slight fruity overtones and a vaguely winey character. I can't detect any hop character in the nose. I smell a reasonable amount of roasted malt as well.

Mouthfeel: Creamy with moderate body. Carbonation is slight, but noticeable.

Taste: The flavor is a delicious mix of chocolate, black coffee, and a smooth maltiness tinged with a slight and subtle hop bitterness. As the ale warms, the maltiness and chocolate character become more pronounced.

Drinkability: This porter is more full-bodied than some I've tried, but is surprisingly drinkable.

This is probably one of my favorite porters, and I attribute that to a good balance of tastes -- malty sweetness contrasted with a pleasant roasted bitterness. The coffee and chocolate flavors are agreeable because they remain mild in character. Unlike some stouts and porters, I could enjoy more than one of these and not feel overwhelmed by the flavor. I recommend this one to anyone looking for a tasty, drinkable porter to enjoy on a rainy autumn afternoon.

kylesobrien, Aug 14, 2009
Photo of PartyBear
4.45/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pure black body, with a thick creamy head.

S - The first thing that hit me was an inviting warm liquorish smell, that seemed to linger. There was also a scent of sweet molasses, and a faint chocolate coming through.

T - The warm liquorish that dominated the smell comes through with authority in the taste. It's also somewhat creamy with a hint of chocolate.

M - This is without a doubt full bodied, and it has the taste to pull it off. There is a strong dry persistent aftertaste.

D - This is a heavy porter, with a powerful aftertaste. Put simply this is an awesome brew, and needs to be tried. I will definitely be stocking up a few of these to be drinking over winter.

PartyBear, Jul 21, 2009
Photo of qchic
4.3/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

carnegie stark porter 1997 8.82 oz. bottle

appearance: pours cola brown, smattering of head, even with an aggressive pour.

aroma: rich chocolate, nuts, rum, dark red fruits, wood

taste: dark chocolate, coffee, raspberry, toffee, vanilla

mouthfeel: oily, low carbonation (appropriate for the age)

drinkability: wouldn't throw back too many, but I could sip this indefinitely.

qchic, Jul 14, 2009
Photo of Cyberkedi
4.08/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Aroma is malty, smoky and slightly yeasty with a good undertone of fine coffee and molasses. It pours a dark chocolate brown with a thick pale beige head that is fine-bubbled and fairly persistent. Flavor is malty and mocha-ish with just a whisper of sweetness. Texture is smooth and lively though not as thick as that of some other stouts.

Cyberkedi, Jun 28, 2009
Photo of quinlin
3.63/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A - deep very dark amber color with a thin tan head

S - very sweet! molasses and maple syrup, sweet maltiness

T - the taste is much more settle compared to the nose. roasted malt,coffee candy

M - smoothish, med/high carbonation, med body and a bitter finish

D - this beer was a good experience overall, but i dont think i would buy it again.

quinlin, Jun 13, 2009
Photo of avalon07
4.18/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a black color and a thick consistency. There was a large tan-colored, fairly long-lasting head and very good lacing.

S: Smelled of malt, coffee and a sweet element.

T: A nicely done taste of coffee, licorice and malt. Licorice had more of a role than I thought it would. Mild alcohol presence.

M: A good amount of carbonation and a generally smooth finish. Heavy-bodied.

D: Definitely a drinkable Baltic Porter. Sweeter than most, but goes down easy.

avalon07, Jun 08, 2009
Photo of Rayek
4.45/5  rDev +8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

From a 2006 Vintage bottle.

A: Ultra deep mahogany colored beer that borders on black. Frothy tan head has above average retention and leaves small streaks of lace.

S: A heavy mass of licorice, molasses and strawberries greet the nose. A pepper tingle resides in the background to provide balance.

T: This beer is quite sweet, but in a dark way, if that makes any sense. Licorice and molasses from the nose start things out. Dark fruits creep in with a vinous quality to add more complexity. Bitterness comes on with a pepper bite. A mild alcohol presence makes the beer seem stronger than it is. Finishes warm, with a lingering licorice flavor.

M: The body has a good amount of heft to it. Carbonation level is right on.

D: I really, really liked this. It was a dreary day out side, and this beer served as a nice pick me up. I'm happy to have found this and will visit it again.

Rayek, May 03, 2009
Photo of rkinsella
4.4/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Vintage on this bottle was 2006

Appearance - Color was pitch black with an off white pillowy head. Above average lacing down the glass.

Smell - Molasses notes and dried fruit. Perhaps a touch of oak.

Taste - An incredible balance after 3 years in the bottle. Sweetness evened out with a bit of tart fruit, touch of smoke, and ending with very muted hops. Aftertaste is long and complex.

Mouthfeel - Lower carbonation, smooth and creamy.

Drinkability - Highly drinkable because of the great balance.

I've never tasted anything like this before. A porter that is really one of a kind. It seemed almost like a fine scotch.

rkinsella, Apr 07, 2009
Photo of popery
4.72/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2006 Vintage.

A: Very good looking beer, particularly for a porter with a few years on it. Black liquid with a nice foamy head and plenty of lacing.

S: Interesting smell. It's probably a bit weaker but more complex now than it was fresh. There are notes of sweet stone fruit and roasted malt. It's interesting, but it doesn't have the punch of some porters.

T: The taste is incredible at this point. It's sweet, roasty and fruity. The flavor is exceptionally well-melded and balanced. It's an excellent porter that has aged incredibly. I like that there's still good bitterness. The hops have mostly dropped out, but it's never cloying or overly sweet.

M: Creamy and smooth.

D: Extremely easy to drink. You can't make a beer taste this way without the aid of time. The feel and flavor are just right. This beer has surprised me greatly. I was expecting disappointment but received just the opposite.

3/20/2010 - Still awesome.

popery, Apr 05, 2009
Photo of Phillyduke
4.83/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

2001 Vintage with a "Best Before" date of 2010. The second label on the back of the bottle covering the original one leads me to believe this might have been one of the last batches to roll off the Pripps Bryggerier line. Comparing my thoughts with current reviewers, I think this may in fact be the case. Beer is a dark sienna brown and ever so slightly translucent with a fizzy light head that quickly recedes leaving an oily residue on the surface. No lacing to speak of. Not a hint of oxidation after 8 years in the bottle is remarkable for a beer of only 5.5% ABV. Smell is deep, dark, rich and inviting, with hints of chocolate, caramel and coffee.

Taste is out of this world! Medium-bodied with a velvety carbonation that seems to dissolve instantly in the mouth. My palate is coated by rich caramel malts and chocolate, with a bitter coffee finish. Taste wanders between syrupy sweet and roasted/burnt grains. Finish is long and lingers on the tongue, inviting another sip. Before I know it I'm at the bottom of the glass. I can't imagine a porter tasting any better than this.

It's a shame that current reviews paint the newer product as not worthy of the hype the original got. I didn't have very high hopes for this beer (I thought it would have been well past its peak), but I was pleasantly surprised, and slightly disappointed that I may never have one again...at least not in this incarnation.

Phillyduke, Mar 31, 2009
Photo of Richardberg
3.95/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A: poured from a bottle into a stemless wine glass. Thin cola-colored liquid. No head to speak of.

S: very interesting! Dark syrupy malts, prune, licorice, bitter orange.

T: similar notes from the aroma, but far more dominated by the malty flavors.

M: not bad but too thin for a porter. just enough carbonation to keep things interesting.

D: considering the thin body and low ABV, I found it surprisingly difficult to drink. enjoyable and all, but I'm not sure I'll pick up another.

Richardberg, Mar 30, 2009
Photo of Bananaman
3.65/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Is this beer hyped? Yes, and no. Once upon a time until quite recent, maybe like until 10 years ago this might have been a world class porter. But since Carlsberg took over this has become a suprisingly thin, almost dark lager-ish-like porter. But here we go;

Looks quite nice, the bottle is lovely. But the beer poured up looks quite average. A thin black/brown colour, almost coca cola-like. The foam is white/grey-ish and dissapears very fast and makes a decent ring of foam.

The aroma might be one of the best things with this one. Full on rosted malts and sweet notes of coffee. Some hints of caramell and dark chocolate aswell. Quite nice actually.

The taste then? To start with the beer is a bit too thin for a porter. But there are lots of sweet malt notes and slight hints of coffee and chocolate. But there is a taste that reminds me slightly of cheap euro lager.

This is a fine porter, but it has been a great porter, but not anymore.

Bananaman, Mar 28, 2009
Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 478 ratings.