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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

520 Ratings
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Ratings: 520
Reviews: 337
rAvg: 4.11
pDev: 10.71%
Wants: 51
Gots: 27 | FT: 2
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".
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Photo of OtherShoe2
4.08/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours deep black with a slight partial ring of a tan head.

Scents of deep roast malt and dark raisin bread. Some herbal notes as well. Not an overpowering scent, though.

Dark roasted malt with a great balance between bitterness and sweet, with a bite of sweet fruit that reminded me of booze-filled cherries covered with dark chocolate. Seriously!

Nice consistency with some oily qualities.

Overall, this one went fast. Not overly boozy, and great balance, body, and strenght/complexity of flavor. A very good and interesting porter to try. From 2004 batch.

Photo of Evil_Pidde
4.08/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Black (with faint deep red notes), with a light brown large thick head that stays for some time before it dissipates leaving some lacings.

S: Heavy roasted sweet malt, faint raisin, some liqourish and some chocolate and faint coffee.

T: Sweet heavy roasted malt, with some dried dark fruit, chocolate and coffee. There is also hops, mostly bitter, but I can sence faint floral notes as well.

M: Body is medium, carbonation is moderate, the bewerage is creamy and smooth. The aftertaste is long and lingering with sweetness but also dryness and bitterness.

D: Well balanced. Nice and a bit complex. A very nice porter from Sweden.

Photo of bobsy
4.27/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle from Tucker's Maltings. Drank in a caravan.

Pours a deep mahogany with a finger of tan head that soon dissipates to a thin and patchy film. Only a few spots of lace are left behind. The nose has an extremely enticing mix of chocolate, roasted malt and very strong and sweet dark fruit. Once the beer is tasted it reveals a large treacle character, which is more than likely the result if waves of raisin, chocolate and brown sugar melding together. This is accompanied by a light coffee roast and moderate bitterness. Smooth, almost creamy mouthfeel with a hint of alcohol in the tail. This beer drinks bigger than it is, which is a great feat for a lower ABV Baltic porter, and probably makes it one of the few that could be sessioned.

Photo of jahfool
4.01/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

An unexpected treat, had never heard of the beer before- "Pripps Carnegie Porter." Dark black appearance, decent head. Mild aroma, rich malty taste with huge roast and chocolate flavor and a nice hoppy edge. Full mouthfeel, solid drinkability. Fantastic porter, almost stout-ish. Very well balanced, clean flavo. Would instantly order again if seen. Definitely recommended.

Photo of ricke
3.28/5  rDev -20.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

2009 vintage.

A: Dark brown with a tanned head that settles into some lacings.

S: Smooth malts, rye bread, caramel and notes of vinous fruits. A hint of coffee. The taste is somewhat mild and restrained, but rather good.

T: The taste is mostly sweet with bready malts to the fore. Notes of vinous fruits, wood and a hint of coffee. Faint note of chocolate. The finish is rather short with a minimal bitterness, mineral notes, wood and malty sweetness.

M: Medium body. The carbonation is of the sort you most often find in mass produced fizzy lagers.

D: This is a good beer, but no more. I like the vinous and fruity character it showcases. But it's kind of restrained, both in terms of aromas and flavors, and it lacks complexity, and in my opinion, its reputation as one of the best porters in the world is greatly exaggerated. Perhaps it once was, but the way the brewery has treated this classic beer during the last decade is embarrassing.

Photo of kylesobrien
4.3/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Pours a deep dark shade of black. The ale is somewhat translucent, revealing a slight shade of tawny red if the glass is introduced to some form of backlight.

Head is a frothy, creamy brown. Dissipates somewhat a few minutes after pouring, but leaves a bit of lacy fringe around the rim of the glass.

Smell: Aroma is of dark bitter chocolate with slight fruity overtones and a vaguely winey character. I can't detect any hop character in the nose. I smell a reasonable amount of roasted malt as well.

Mouthfeel: Creamy with moderate body. Carbonation is slight, but noticeable.

Taste: The flavor is a delicious mix of chocolate, black coffee, and a smooth maltiness tinged with a slight and subtle hop bitterness. As the ale warms, the maltiness and chocolate character become more pronounced.

Drinkability: This porter is more full-bodied than some I've tried, but is surprisingly drinkable.

This is probably one of my favorite porters, and I attribute that to a good balance of tastes -- malty sweetness contrasted with a pleasant roasted bitterness. The coffee and chocolate flavors are agreeable because they remain mild in character. Unlike some stouts and porters, I could enjoy more than one of these and not feel overwhelmed by the flavor. I recommend this one to anyone looking for a tasty, drinkable porter to enjoy on a rainy autumn afternoon.

Photo of PartyBear
4.4/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pure black body, with a thick creamy head.

S - The first thing that hit me was an inviting warm liquorish smell, that seemed to linger. There was also a scent of sweet molasses, and a faint chocolate coming through.

T - The warm liquorish that dominated the smell comes through with authority in the taste. It's also somewhat creamy with a hint of chocolate.

M - This is without a doubt full bodied, and it has the taste to pull it off. There is a strong dry persistent aftertaste.

D - This is a heavy porter, with a powerful aftertaste. Put simply this is an awesome brew, and needs to be tried. I will definitely be stocking up a few of these to be drinking over winter.

Photo of qchic
4.29/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

carnegie stark porter 1997 8.82 oz. bottle

appearance: pours cola brown, smattering of head, even with an aggressive pour.

aroma: rich chocolate, nuts, rum, dark red fruits, wood

taste: dark chocolate, coffee, raspberry, toffee, vanilla

mouthfeel: oily, low carbonation (appropriate for the age)

drinkability: wouldn't throw back too many, but I could sip this indefinitely.

Photo of Cyberkedi
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Aroma is malty, smoky and slightly yeasty with a good undertone of fine coffee and molasses. It pours a dark chocolate brown with a thick pale beige head that is fine-bubbled and fairly persistent. Flavor is malty and mocha-ish with just a whisper of sweetness. Texture is smooth and lively though not as thick as that of some other stouts.

Photo of quinlin
3.6/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A - deep very dark amber color with a thin tan head

S - very sweet! molasses and maple syrup, sweet maltiness

T - the taste is much more settle compared to the nose. roasted malt,coffee candy

M - smoothish, med/high carbonation, med body and a bitter finish

D - this beer was a good experience overall, but i dont think i would buy it again.

Photo of avalon07
4.2/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a black color and a thick consistency. There was a large tan-colored, fairly long-lasting head and very good lacing.

S: Smelled of malt, coffee and a sweet element.

T: A nicely done taste of coffee, licorice and malt. Licorice had more of a role than I thought it would. Mild alcohol presence.

M: A good amount of carbonation and a generally smooth finish. Heavy-bodied.

D: Definitely a drinkable Baltic Porter. Sweeter than most, but goes down easy.

Photo of Rayek
4.44/5  rDev +8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

From a 2006 Vintage bottle.

A: Ultra deep mahogany colored beer that borders on black. Frothy tan head has above average retention and leaves small streaks of lace.

S: A heavy mass of licorice, molasses and strawberries greet the nose. A pepper tingle resides in the background to provide balance.

T: This beer is quite sweet, but in a dark way, if that makes any sense. Licorice and molasses from the nose start things out. Dark fruits creep in with a vinous quality to add more complexity. Bitterness comes on with a pepper bite. A mild alcohol presence makes the beer seem stronger than it is. Finishes warm, with a lingering licorice flavor.

M: The body has a good amount of heft to it. Carbonation level is right on.

D: I really, really liked this. It was a dreary day out side, and this beer served as a nice pick me up. I'm happy to have found this and will visit it again.

Photo of rkinsella
4.31/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Vintage on this bottle was 2006

Appearance - Color was pitch black with an off white pillowy head. Above average lacing down the glass.

Smell - Molasses notes and dried fruit. Perhaps a touch of oak.

Taste - An incredible balance after 3 years in the bottle. Sweetness evened out with a bit of tart fruit, touch of smoke, and ending with very muted hops. Aftertaste is long and complex.

Mouthfeel - Lower carbonation, smooth and creamy.

Drinkability - Highly drinkable because of the great balance.

I've never tasted anything like this before. A porter that is really one of a kind. It seemed almost like a fine scotch.

Photo of popery
4.68/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2006 Vintage.

A: Very good looking beer, particularly for a porter with a few years on it. Black liquid with a nice foamy head and plenty of lacing.

S: Interesting smell. It's probably a bit weaker but more complex now than it was fresh. There are notes of sweet stone fruit and roasted malt. It's interesting, but it doesn't have the punch of some porters.

T: The taste is incredible at this point. It's sweet, roasty and fruity. The flavor is exceptionally well-melded and balanced. It's an excellent porter that has aged incredibly. I like that there's still good bitterness. The hops have mostly dropped out, but it's never cloying or overly sweet.

M: Creamy and smooth.

D: Extremely easy to drink. You can't make a beer taste this way without the aid of time. The feel and flavor are just right. This beer has surprised me greatly. I was expecting disappointment but received just the opposite.

3/20/2010 - Still awesome.

Photo of Phillyduke
4.79/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

2001 Vintage with a "Best Before" date of 2010. The second label on the back of the bottle covering the original one leads me to believe this might have been one of the last batches to roll off the Pripps Bryggerier line. Comparing my thoughts with current reviewers, I think this may in fact be the case. Beer is a dark sienna brown and ever so slightly translucent with a fizzy light head that quickly recedes leaving an oily residue on the surface. No lacing to speak of. Not a hint of oxidation after 8 years in the bottle is remarkable for a beer of only 5.5% ABV. Smell is deep, dark, rich and inviting, with hints of chocolate, caramel and coffee.

Taste is out of this world! Medium-bodied with a velvety carbonation that seems to dissolve instantly in the mouth. My palate is coated by rich caramel malts and chocolate, with a bitter coffee finish. Taste wanders between syrupy sweet and roasted/burnt grains. Finish is long and lingers on the tongue, inviting another sip. Before I know it I'm at the bottom of the glass. I can't imagine a porter tasting any better than this.

It's a shame that current reviews paint the newer product as not worthy of the hype the original got. I didn't have very high hopes for this beer (I thought it would have been well past its peak), but I was pleasantly surprised, and slightly disappointed that I may never have one again...at least not in this incarnation.

Photo of Richardberg
3.96/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A: poured from a bottle into a stemless wine glass. Thin cola-colored liquid. No head to speak of.

S: very interesting! Dark syrupy malts, prune, licorice, bitter orange.

T: similar notes from the aroma, but far more dominated by the malty flavors.

M: not bad but too thin for a porter. just enough carbonation to keep things interesting.

D: considering the thin body and low ABV, I found it surprisingly difficult to drink. enjoyable and all, but I'm not sure I'll pick up another.

Photo of Bananaman
3.67/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Is this beer hyped? Yes, and no. Once upon a time until quite recent, maybe like until 10 years ago this might have been a world class porter. But since Carlsberg took over this has become a suprisingly thin, almost dark lager-ish-like porter. But here we go;

Looks quite nice, the bottle is lovely. But the beer poured up looks quite average. A thin black/brown colour, almost coca cola-like. The foam is white/grey-ish and dissapears very fast and makes a decent ring of foam.

The aroma might be one of the best things with this one. Full on rosted malts and sweet notes of coffee. Some hints of caramell and dark chocolate aswell. Quite nice actually.

The taste then? To start with the beer is a bit too thin for a porter. But there are lots of sweet malt notes and slight hints of coffee and chocolate. But there is a taste that reminds me slightly of cheap euro lager.

This is a fine porter, but it has been a great porter, but not anymore.

Photo of MADhombrewer
4.15/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This is the first time I have had this beer. I did not know it was considered a Baltic Porter. I picked up this bottle "blind".
I poured it into a pint glass.

A- Dark brown to black with brown around the edges.
nice tight head that went away rather quickly
but left lots of lacing behind.

S- Great aroma! Lots of chocolate and a little
smoke.

T- Wow! Very creamy with a tad bit of tang to it as it hits the back of your tongue. Great flavor! Again, lots of chocolate notes.

M- Great mouthfeel! It seams to "fill" your mouth even with a small sip. It coats your whole mouth and lingers after you swallow.

D- Very drinkable! I could have these all night if I could, alas I only have one (right now). I WILL get more next time I am at the beer store!

So with that, I will leave to enjoy this more.

Cheers!

Photo of riored4v
4.2/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reviewed on 1/25/08 in a SN Tulip glass.

Appearance had a creamy, tan 1 1/2 finger head. Black, slightly opaque body w/ hints of ruby.

Smell had sweet, roasted malts. Hints of licorice as well.

Taste had nice chocolate notes. Slightly grainy. Subtle roasted malt flavors. Very mild in bitterness along with a nice mild malt sweetness. A nice balance of flavors overall.

Mouthfeel was surprising light in body. Low in carbonation.

Drinkability was very good. Nice and light, well balanced.

Great tasting porter. Very well balanced.

Photo of tmoneyba
4.05/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle from River's Bend.

Poured a dark brown color with a large creamy brown head that was mostly lasting with excellent lacing. Solid roasted malt and dark fruit aroma. Medium body with smooth texture. Medium bittersweet roasted flavor with a medium smooth balanced finish of moderate duration.

Solid drinkable beer that did meet my expectations.

Photo of hopdog
3.6/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bottle labeled Argang 1997.

Poured a dark black color with almost no head - what head was there was an off white. Aromas of chocolate and licorice . Lighter tastes. Very light coffee on top of the chocolate. Some roastiness too.

Notes from: 12/30/04

Photo of farrago
4.66/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Blackish-brown with only a streak of orange to it, weak head upon the pour, what's there dissolves quickly. Energetic roasted nose of coffee bean, caramel, malt and prune, date fruit, furnishes orange peel, dough and cinnamon stick, doesn't really attack you, more of a marathon runner than sprinter. Light to medium-bodied, this makes it much easier to chug given the thicker flavors of caramel, toffee, coffee ice cream and orange peel. More white fruit than black fruit here. Nothing bitter about it, smooth and unrolls confidently across the tongue. Long finish, full possession of all its flavors. You could drink a considerable amount before noticing.

Photo of Bung
4.3/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Nearly black pour. Pretty roasty in the nose, coffee, burnt toast. Tastes of the same, with maybe some slight dark chocolate and molasses. Enough hops to even it out. Another very good Scandanavian porter, albeit a little different. Alcohol of a standard porter, flavors of a Baltic.

Photo of Packforever1976
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured chilled into my british pint.
2006 vintage picked up from Four Firkins.

A: Pours a very dark brown, almost black. There is a slight reddish hue when held up to the light. About a one finger light tan head that receades quickly, leaving a slight film over the brew. Nice lacing.

S: Very interesting smells. Some tobacco, vanilla, a hint of dark fruit, a little cinnamon. Molasses too. Very nice, can't wait to taste it.

T: Wow. I've tasted nothing like this, ever. Sweet tobacco, vanilla, molasses=delicious! Dark fruit and cinnamon as well. This is fantastic!

M: Fairly light mouthfeel, proper carbonation. Dry finish. Nice.

D: Very drinkable. I'm wondering how this qualifies as a Baltic, as it comes in at 5.5%? Either way, it is a very tasty porter. A nice reccomendation from the clerk at Four Firkins. I'll be searching this out again for sure!

Photo of froghop
3.97/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

pours a dark brown with a red tint when held to the light, small khaki head, and okay lacing.

smell is of coffee, sweet chocolate, and vanilla.

taste is creamy, milk chocolate, coffee, and some roasted nuts, ends with just a touch of bitterness and a little dry.

Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 520 ratings.