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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

501 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 501
Reviews: 332
rAvg: 4.11
pDev: 10.95%
Wants: 52
Gots: 22 | FT: 2
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001)
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Photo of metter98
4.18/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

A: The beer is nearly jet black in color (some traces of amber are visible at the edges of the glass when it is held up to the light) and poured with a thin creamy tan head that faded into a thin ring of bubbles around the edge of the glass and lacy patterns in the center.
S: The smell isn't that strong, but has aromas of chocolate, licorice, molasses and roasted malts.
T: The taste is complex, well balanced and similar to the smell. There is a mild amount of bitterness in the finish that contrasts with a slight amount of sweetness in the initial taste.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied and a bit thin on the palate with a low to moderate amount of carbonation.
D: Unlike many of the beers In the style, this beer is extremely easy to drink; it wouldn't be difficult to have several of these in an evening because it isn't very filling.

Note: 2004 vintage

Photo of BeerNinja007
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I got this squatty 500mL bottle a while ago at Manchester Wine & Spirits, Manchester CT, for $5.99. Stark-Porter label indicates date brewed as 2006 and best before January 2016. Served chilled in a standard pint glass.

Black-brown brew gives about 2" of thick mocha foam with great retention and ample lace. Smells of milk chocolate, yeast, molasses, bourbon, and straight vanilla extract on a thick starchy malty backbone. As it warms, the aroma develops some odd fruitiness, berry esters. Taste is mostly a mix of smooth milk chocolate and dry molasses sweetness, then vanilla extract, a bit of smoke, and berry esters. Finish is of bitter molasses, vanilla, and fruit. Feel is creamy and thick, mostly dry, with very light carbonation.

This is a tasty porter. Compared to others, this one is a bit too light on the carbo, almost flat. Hops are not detected. There's a lot of molasses and it's not as dry as a typical porter. The fruity stuff is a little odd and seems to be common in Nordic brews of many different styles.

Photo of berebrando
4.9/5  rDev +19.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

fantastic beer!!! I found this on the menu of cafe rouge in berkeley. served in a tall slender pint glass, poured from approx 22 oz bottle. the thick tan head of medium and small sized bubbles lasts long enough for the beer to reach optimal tasting temperature. once it warms, you can smell more of the chocolate malts. tastes like chocolate, coffee, burned, some spices and a slight boozy late favoring. I loved it... it was drinksble and tasted good in my mouth, as it was not quite a thick meal in a mug, nor too light, as little red says, it I'd just right, and fantastic at that.

Photo of thekoz
4.38/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Short brown bottle with årgång (vintage) 2004 on the label. Pour with almost no head and is jet black.

I get some licorice and molasses aromas. There is a little coffee in there as well. A lot going on with this beer.

The mouthfeel is pretty slick with very minimal carbonation. Since there are almost no bubble in the beer, I am surprised that I can feel the carbonation at all but it is actually pretty good for the flavor.

The beer is malty. Initially I got some licorice flavors, but this was likely implied by the aroma I was getting. As it warmed a bit I got more molasses, a little chocolate, and some other flavors that I can't quite identify.

The beer has a fairly medium body, very drinkable.

Overall a really nice beer. I picked this up on a whim, and was putting off drinking it. Now I want to get a few more bottles.

Photo of albern
4.38/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This is the best Baltic Porter I've had. This is due in part to the toned down ABV which lets the genuine flavors come through without getting washed up in intense booziness. This is a really good beer. It pours a nice inky black color with a nice brownish head that is creamy and thick. The head doesn't hang around that long but it is plenty creamy in the head for quite awhile. The beer laces well too. The nose is molasses and sweet malts. There is a touch of musty fruitiness too. It's all good.

The taste is complex, first and foremost. There is plenty of molasses and brown sugars. There are some roasted notes and sweetish malts. There are some raisiny flavors and maybe a slight touch of nut flavors. This is good stuff. The beer does have a bit of a beef steak taste to it as well. I can see pairing this with some bloody red meat, although that's not my fare. There is a touch of Rauchbier in this porter too. This is a complex, medium bodied, creamy, smooth, sweetish porter with lots of molasses flavors and brown malts. This is a winner. The mouthfeel is just right and there is no unpleasantness in the aftertaste. L'Chaim.

Photo of flagmantho
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 500mL bottle into a pint glass. This bottle is årgång 2004, so it's got some good age on it.

Appearance: rich, deep amber brown with one thick finger of creamy tan head. Body allows a hint of red light through.

Smell: very nice aroma which is lightly fruity with a roasty and chocolatey backdrop. Somewhat sweet and quite enjoyable.

Taste: like the aroma, there's a nice fruitiness here with a bit of roastiness and chocolate there for character. The flavor is not super strong; that is basically the only drawback.

Mouthfeel: body is on the lighter side of medium, but there's a well-integrated carbonation which yields a silky creaminess. Quite nice.

Drinkability: this beer is more than the sum of its parts. I like Baltic porters in general, and Carnegie is kind enough to clock in at a low enough ABV to basically be a session beer. Great stuff.

Photo of BikeChef
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2006 the bottle says. Pours a deep dark brown, with a lacy head. Smells of dried fruits and roasty-ness. Mmmmm... this is a very nice porter. Molasses mixed with more dried fruits and toast in a very drinkable beer. Tastes bigger than its 5.5%. Wish this was more affordable in the US-- I'd drink this all fall and into the winter.

Photo of Reagan1984
3.75/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Big thanks to Masterski for providing this in a recent trade. Alex is a good man.

Very creamy 2+ finger of beige head sits atop this beer. It slowly collapses but takes it's time and shows excellent retention. The beer is almost as black as an Imperial Stout. Help to a bright light you get some slight light coming through. Nice sheets of lacing.

Aroma is malty, caramel and a whiff of alcohol which is strange since it's only 5.5%.

Roasted malt and chocolate notes dominate here. A slight molasses flavor as well. Somewhat musty as well. Perhaps a little licorice here.

Fairly thick bodied and dry on your tongue. A slight dry or powder like feeling on your tongue. A little abv heat which again is strange at 5.5%.

The end of the flavor is slightly abrupt which cuts down on the drinkability for me. It's good and you can't say it's watery, but still the flavor ends quickly.

Photo of KarlHungus
4.47/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer pours a nearly opaque black color. The head is two inches in height, and recedes very slowly into a one inch cap of lacing. This is a very sexy looking beer. The aroma roasted malt, cream, and a lot of black licorice. The taste is mostly of black licorice, with hints of cream and black malt. There is a firm roasted malt bitterness in the finish. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with moderate carbonation, and a smooth texture. Overall, this is a very good beer that I will definitely drink again.

Photo of crossovert
3.33/5  rDev -19%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

500ml bottle, says Argang 2004, i doubt that is it's production year. The back has the date of 12 OKT 14 on it. Apparently it is from before 2009.

It pours a dark brown with hints of brownish red on the far edges. The head is sandy and tan and recedes with some lacing.

This one smells very fruity and alcoholic. It reminds me of a Belgian dark ale rather than a Baltic porter form the smell. There is a hint of chocolate that remains the only hint to the style.

The flavor is more porter-like but it seems a bit thin. There are strong hints of coffee and chocolate along with some dark fruits. Very, very chocolatey.

Overall it is a bit thin and watery for the style, not really worth the pickup imo.

Photo of Stunner97
4.85/5  rDev +18%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

2006 edition

Appearance-pitch dark black with very nice tan head, no carbonation to be seen what so ever, dark and ominous appearance great look

Smell- wow beautiful smell world class, roasted espresso, chocolate, roasted malts, just so appealing on the nose,

Taste- wow this is the epitome of complex, roasted malts, chocolate, hops on the finish, soft yet pleasant booze on the finish.very balance super complex and just such an amazing porter in terms flavor im blown away and such long lingering beautiful finish

Mouthfeel- smooth creamy and medium bodied, nice low carbonation and good feel

drinkability- just amazing, world class porter here, i got if for 99 cents cuz the place thought it was distressed and discontinued, but wow, cant believe that at 5.5 a beer can be this great 4 years later, amazing and probably best porter i have had privilege of having, if you see it get it you wont be sorry

Photo of MoreThanWine
2.68/5  rDev -34.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured a 1 tan head. To me this whole thing comes across as coffee just in slightly varying degrees - the appearance is black coffee, the bouquet is a weak iced coffee, and the flavor is a slightly sweet and mild coffee dessert - like maybe a cold coffee pie slice. Hey I still enjoyed it, there just wasn't a lot of complexity in my sample, and it cost me $8 for a 9 oz bottle so I was expecting more. Perhaps my sample sat on the shelf in Massachusetts too long and if I'd had a fresher sample in Sweden I'd be singing the praises?

Photo of STEG
3.95/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Room temperature pour into a Mikasa widemouth glass

Creates a pitch black mass in my glass with a two finger fluffy dark khaki head extruding from the abyss that dissipates into layer of fine bubbles.

Some agitation reveals some interesting smells. Smells that can be described as dank darkfruits and muskiness and old beer, and a salty briney character as well with the expected coffee and chocolate flavors taking a backseat as mere undertones.

Taste reveals more of the same initially you're hit with a dank musky taste that has some dark fruits like plum and raisin in there as well. At the back are some light coffee notes

Mouthfeel is very light and watery surprising given the style but its still smooth. I was hoping for something a bit thicker and more chewy.

The taste causes this musky beer to take a hit in the drinkability category but it was worth a shot, I'd be willing to give it a second chance on tap.

Photo of yeahnatenelson
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Årgång 2004

Thrown in as an extra by Jwiss22 - what a great guy!

Appearance -- Pours a dark brown, black in the glass, with an abundance of dark khaki head.

Smell -- Roast malt, raisin, figs, cocoa powder, malted milk, and red wine.

Taste -- Vibrant malt sweetness up front: raisin, cabernet grapes, and figs. There's also some pleasant smokey/roast flavors, like cocoa powder, char, molasses. There's a little bit of wet cardboard-y oxidation, but it hardly detracts from all of the benefits that aging has brought.

Mouthfeel -- Medium to full in body with mild carbonation. Smooth.

Drinkability -- If you told me a 5.5% beer would maintain this well over the course of six years, I wouldn't have believed you. Great stuff.

Photo of Mjoepp
4.18/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Black liquid with a quite big light browish head. Medium and small bubbles, leaves some lacing on the glass.

S: Roasted (sweet) malt, coffee, lil' bit of choclate.

T: Roasted, coffee, choclate. Watery when swallowed, leaves a bitter roasted taste as aftertaste.

O: Quite impressed, deserves to have survied all these years.

Photo of 100floods
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Vintage date says 2004. Pours coca-cola brown, with some half finger head. Smells a little sweet, a little roasty, some smokey hints in there too. First sip was good, second was a even better. Smokey, roasted, a little dark chocolate flavors, a little sweet aftertaste, similar to a rauchbier, but it also reminds me of zywiec's porter. I had this beer years ago when I first started getting into beer and I found it again, and I'm glad I did. Such a refreshing difference from most american porters (this one is swedish). The smokey flavors are a nice touch, just enough presence that I won't complain. Nice light beer, nice rich flavors. I'd love to have this on cask sometime.

Photo of brentk56
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2004 bottling; tasted in 2010

Appearance: Pours a dark chocolate brown color with ruby highlights; the stout-like beige head turns rocky and does a decent job leaving some strands of lace behind

Smell: Chocolate and licorice, along with some dark fruit elements

Taste: Opens with an almost lactic chocolate flavor, with vanilla, licorice and dark fruit flavors developing by mid-palate; after the swallow, there is a little bit of hop balance that arrives, though the sweet, malty elements dominate from start to finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: Certainly surprised that this beer has held up for so long, though at this stage I wouldn't put it in the top tier for the style; would be interesting to contrast with a fresher version

Photo of biglite351
3.38/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

My bottle was a 2004, so it was a 6 year old brew.

A - a bit of red showing around the edges. Light tan tight head that leaves basically no lacing.

S - a little bit of a wine scent at the start. After that there are malts and caramel or chocolate.

T - fruit, probably raisin, malts, butterscotch,synergy a little coffee.

M - very smooth. Nice thickness, but not much coating nor tingle or other feeling.

D - very tasty and smooth, but the sweet raisin taste would get a little old after glass number two.

Photo of matty
3.98/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pitch black colored beer with a rapidly fading head.Aroma is very pleasant with dark fruit and cocoa powder.Taste is dark fruit,caramel,butterscotch and chocolate.A very flavorful and good beer.I would highly recommend and definetly purchase again in the near future.

Photo of mfaulk
4.6/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

33cl bottle from a systembolaget in Stockholm.

A: rich and dark. Small head, leaves some lacing.

S: smells like a doppelbock. Some raisin bread.

T: Great. Chocolate, raisins. Well-balanced subtle flavors, a tad sweet, then fades to a faint bitterness, like walnuts or baking cocoa.

M: Just right. Satisfyingly body, but it took will power to go through this bottle slowly. Very light carbonation. Smooth and creamy, then fades and makes me want more...

D: 33cl is just too small of a bottle.

Photo of Aenema
3.95/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

3/26
(2006 Vintage)
Appearance - Pours deep black with a fluffy, tan head.
Smell - Dark, roasty malts.
Taste - Strong coffee grounds, cocoa; not much sweetness or bitterness, just intense roastiness.
Mouthfeel - Smooth feel with a light-medium body. Lifting, low carbonation.
Drinkability - Enjoyable beer that has much more flavor than the abv would suggest.

Photo of BeerImmediately
4.22/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

2004 vintage into stout glass in the 45 degree range.

Pours with a healthy 3F of creamy, tan head over top of a deep brown body with burgundy edges. Nice amount of lacing present.

Powdery cocoa aroma, with butterscotch, molasses, and some bark in the back.

What a creamy, pleasant mouthfeel. Cocoa aroma transforms into milk chocolate with Kahlua, butterscotch becomes more pronounced with warming, and some roasted coffee bean finish throughout.

This goes down FAR too easily - thankfully, it's under 6%. Highly recommend that you pick this one up if you see it.

Photo of ktrillionaire
4.75/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Vintage 2004. Drank 2010.

Important: this Porter tastes like a proper Porter, and not like an alternate Stout. That is part of the reason why it is so dope. Many a purported Porter these days is suspiciously similar to a Stout. This one, as I said, differentiates itself definitively and definitely.

A – It pours as black as crude, with a moderate tan foam, and some decent lace action.

S – The aroma is not extravagant, but it is succinct and sublime, as is everything about this brew. It basically smells of dark malt, light oxidation and notes of cinnamon and smoke.

T – Again, it is not strongly flavored, but it is phenomenally smooth and balanced. I can't believe this beer is nearly six years old. The taste is full and richly malty, but not sweet, with subtle suggestions of dark fruit, plums, fig and a hint of roasty oxidation.

M – Very hearty. Exceptional.

D – Again, I am shocked that this brew is nearly six years old. At 5.5%, I wouldn't think it would keep so well. But it certainly does.

Photo of krunchie
4.38/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours an opaque black liquid with a nice tan, very thick and creamy head. Looks delicious! The head was almost entirely gone after 2 minutes...too bad, it looked great. Left a bit of nice lacing though.

S: Black malts and barley, I mean really you can really smell the raw grain! I like it, it smells fresh. Raisins and dark rye bread, some sweet milk chocolate and figs. Dried fruit and resin, no hop aroma. Estery and roasty.

T: Mmm, very roasty and toasty. Black malts, can really get the raw malt thing again. Malty and balanced, once again no hops (I don't want any hop flavor in this style of beer ethier, so that's a pro) and perfect bitterness. Less fruitiness in the flavor, much more raw roasted barley flavor and coffee. Get some more resin and a slight smoked wood flavor, quite grainy and hard caramelized like bread crust. Molasses and an "aged" character I like very much. Not very fruity in the flavor, very clean and refreshing which I think really makes this beer outstanding! A true winner

M/D: Easy to drink, medium body with perfect CO2 for the style. Smooth on the palate and crisp on the tongue, creamy but not too thick. Goes down easily!

I was surprised, this is a mighty fine beer! Great flavor and a clean roastiness, but still refreshing and leaving you wanting more. I should definitely go buy some more...

Photo of unHipHopHead
4.58/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Should mention that the bottle I purchased was vintage 2004 and discounted from $7.99 to $5.99... there may have been some heavy moving involved.

a: a full head that resolved into a thin lace with medium bubbles attracted to one side. also, jet black color with caramelized bead and bubbles.

s: lots of molasses and a hint of chocolate. Like an aged scotch, I detect hints of woody and vanilla notes as well as a deep earthiness.

t: heavy roasted flavors with a bite of charcoal and sweetness around all. Flavors of espresso, molasses and dark chocolate.

m: smooth, thick and syrupy with a hint of carbonation.

d: an extremely solid porter that one could enjoy as a final wish.

As a Porter lover this was an enjoyable experience. All in all, this is one of the best Porters I have tried. I generally enjoy the Deschutes Black Butte (especially cask!) as well as the Alaskan Smoked. I wasn't expecting much from a Swedish brew but wow, this is a winner.

Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 501 ratings.