Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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92
outstanding

504 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 504
Reviews: 333
rAvg: 4.11
pDev: 10.95%
Wants: 52
Gots: 22 | FT: 2
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001)
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Photo of Bananaman
3.65/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Is this beer hyped? Yes, and no. Once upon a time until quite recent, maybe like until 10 years ago this might have been a world class porter. But since Carlsberg took over this has become a suprisingly thin, almost dark lager-ish-like porter. But here we go;

Looks quite nice, the bottle is lovely. But the beer poured up looks quite average. A thin black/brown colour, almost coca cola-like. The foam is white/grey-ish and dissapears very fast and makes a decent ring of foam.

The aroma might be one of the best things with this one. Full on rosted malts and sweet notes of coffee. Some hints of caramell and dark chocolate aswell. Quite nice actually.

The taste then? To start with the beer is a bit too thin for a porter. But there are lots of sweet malt notes and slight hints of coffee and chocolate. But there is a taste that reminds me slightly of cheap euro lager.

This is a fine porter, but it has been a great porter, but not anymore.

Photo of MADhombrewer
4.15/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This is the first time I have had this beer. I did not know it was considered a Baltic Porter. I picked up this bottle "blind".
I poured it into a pint glass.

A- Dark brown to black with brown around the edges.
nice tight head that went away rather quickly
but left lots of lacing behind.

S- Great aroma! Lots of chocolate and a little
smoke.

T- Wow! Very creamy with a tad bit of tang to it as it hits the back of your tongue. Great flavor! Again, lots of chocolate notes.

M- Great mouthfeel! It seams to "fill" your mouth even with a small sip. It coats your whole mouth and lingers after you swallow.

D- Very drinkable! I could have these all night if I could, alas I only have one (right now). I WILL get more next time I am at the beer store!

So with that, I will leave to enjoy this more.

Cheers!

Photo of riored4v
4.22/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reviewed on 1/25/08 in a SN Tulip glass.

Appearance had a creamy, tan 1 1/2 finger head. Black, slightly opaque body w/ hints of ruby.

Smell had sweet, roasted malts. Hints of licorice as well.

Taste had nice chocolate notes. Slightly grainy. Subtle roasted malt flavors. Very mild in bitterness along with a nice mild malt sweetness. A nice balance of flavors overall.

Mouthfeel was surprising light in body. Low in carbonation.

Drinkability was very good. Nice and light, well balanced.

Great tasting porter. Very well balanced.

Photo of tmoneyba
4.05/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle from River's Bend.

Poured a dark brown color with a large creamy brown head that was mostly lasting with excellent lacing. Solid roasted malt and dark fruit aroma. Medium body with smooth texture. Medium bittersweet roasted flavor with a medium smooth balanced finish of moderate duration.

Solid drinkable beer that did meet my expectations.

Photo of hopdog
3.58/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bottle labeled Argang 1997.

Poured a dark black color with almost no head - what head was there was an off white. Aromas of chocolate and licorice . Lighter tastes. Very light coffee on top of the chocolate. Some roastiness too.

Notes from: 12/30/04

Photo of farrago
4.68/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Blackish-brown with only a streak of orange to it, weak head upon the pour, what's there dissolves quickly. Energetic roasted nose of coffee bean, caramel, malt and prune, date fruit, furnishes orange peel, dough and cinnamon stick, doesn't really attack you, more of a marathon runner than sprinter. Light to medium-bodied, this makes it much easier to chug given the thicker flavors of caramel, toffee, coffee ice cream and orange peel. More white fruit than black fruit here. Nothing bitter about it, smooth and unrolls confidently across the tongue. Long finish, full possession of all its flavors. You could drink a considerable amount before noticing.

Photo of Bung
4.33/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Nearly black pour. Pretty roasty in the nose, coffee, burnt toast. Tastes of the same, with maybe some slight dark chocolate and molasses. Enough hops to even it out. Another very good Scandanavian porter, albeit a little different. Alcohol of a standard porter, flavors of a Baltic.

Photo of Packforever1976
4.28/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured chilled into my british pint.
2006 vintage picked up from Four Firkins.

A: Pours a very dark brown, almost black. There is a slight reddish hue when held up to the light. About a one finger light tan head that receades quickly, leaving a slight film over the brew. Nice lacing.

S: Very interesting smells. Some tobacco, vanilla, a hint of dark fruit, a little cinnamon. Molasses too. Very nice, can't wait to taste it.

T: Wow. I've tasted nothing like this, ever. Sweet tobacco, vanilla, molasses=delicious! Dark fruit and cinnamon as well. This is fantastic!

M: Fairly light mouthfeel, proper carbonation. Dry finish. Nice.

D: Very drinkable. I'm wondering how this qualifies as a Baltic, as it comes in at 5.5%? Either way, it is a very tasty porter. A nice reccomendation from the clerk at Four Firkins. I'll be searching this out again for sure!

Photo of froghop
3.98/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

pours a dark brown with a red tint when held to the light, small khaki head, and okay lacing.

smell is of coffee, sweet chocolate, and vanilla.

taste is creamy, milk chocolate, coffee, and some roasted nuts, ends with just a touch of bitterness and a little dry.

Photo of timtim
4.38/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2006 vintage. nose could be stronger, but what is there is spot on. coffee, cocoa, vanilla laden caramel, hops and maybe a touch of tobacco. smoke? oak? dark fruit as well? in the finish for sure. extremely well balanced. medium body. lightly carbonated. very very food friendly. i would love to try a 10 year old bottle.

Photo of BretSikkink
3.93/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reasonably dark brown color with some accenting around the side - head is thick and pretty full. A smattering of lace, but not much going on.

Pleasant and mildly sweet aromas of fruit and roasted malt. I'm pretty unimpressed with how weak this nose is.

I expected a little more darkly roasted malts and strength of character, but what's there is nice of taste - I just want more of it. Lots of chocolate and more than a little coffee, but the complexity isn't too high.

More fullness is required in the end; for this style I would like a little more malt body and a more fleshed out beer in general. This is easy to drink in the sense that it's light bodied with some interesting flavors, but I'm ready for another beer and if I had any number of alternatives within this style I would take them.

Photo of djeucalyptus
4.5/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

1pt. 9oz bottle, 2004. Pours a rich caramel building to a near-black in the glass with a meringue-like pillowy head of a light cream color that took eons to dissipate. Beautiful caramel lacing follows down the glass. beautiful.

aroma is subtle, with some sweet malt, molasses, and a bit of toasted bread. as it warms, a bit more bittersweet chocolate, raisins, and cocoa come forth.

Taste of sweet malts, caramel, brewed sumatran coffee (no bitterness anywhere), brown cane sugar and light molasses. More earthy and nutty malts, as well as hints of bitter cocoa come through in the middle. The finish has just a hint of hops to keep this one from being too sweet. More complex than the average baltic... beautiful.

Mouthfeel is brilliant and rich with a light and creamy feel. It's not high abv and it's fairly middle of the road in terms of richness for a baltic, so the medium mouthfeel with moderate carbonation is perfect. Not syrupy, bitter, or astringent, this is one solid brew.

I wish I had more! This is an awesome Baltic Porter, and would definitely serve as a great introduction to the style if you can find it. Smooth drinking with some great flavors. Definitely worth tracking down.

Photo of echdk3
4.72/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 1pt, 9oz bottle into a mug, 2004 vintage

A_Gorgeous dark black color with caramel color one centimeter head with bubbles on top surface. Really a beautiful beer, and leaves a nice slight lace

S_Big time vinegar, molasses. Burnt toast and coffee, a very rich and complex aroma complete with a slight bit of very dark bittersweet chocolate bar

T_Saliva kicks in on the pallet pretty quickly once this brew hits. Primary flavor is dark Italian burnt coffee also with some of that same white vinegar from the aroma

M_Very chewy and lightly carbonated, feels like chewy young goude cheese, absolutely gorgeous

D_Really nice dark roast italian coffee aftertaste is present but absolutely unintrusive. The alcohol is hidden very well. I really could drink many of these, very very nice

I am rating this beer very higly. It is easily one of the best porters I've ever had - in all five categories. Please, please pick this beer up and enjoy all of its subtleties slowly and fully

Photo of kosmoraios
4.18/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a deep black with a 1-finger, creamy tan head that lingers and laces the glass nicely. Aroma is of good chocolate and ripe fig.

Taste is wonderfully complex, with dark chocolate, ripe plum, creamy caramel toffee. Some toasted dark bread as it warms. Very nice and light, but not too light, for a porter.

Mouthfeel is creamy and well textured with ample carbonation to aid the finish. Amazingly drinkable BP that I will be returning to.

Photo of Riverwarrior
4.15/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

2006 Vintage

S = Once the beer warmed a litte, I picked out some semi-sweet cocoa notes as well as roasted coffee.

T = The taste was tamed and restrained with no bitter edges anywhere. Semi-sweet chocolate mixed with roasted coffee flavors were upfront. A hint of caramel and toffee were also in the mix. The finish was like drinking a quality cocoa coffee.

MF = Medium body with moderate carbonation. Creamy and very easy to drink.

Overall, this was the most mellow Baltic Porter that I've tasted.

Photo of SammyDavisJrJrJr
4.15/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2006 Vintage, best by date January, 2016.

A - Good head, tan and full, with dark brown body.

S - Nice and mellow, chocolate, milk, and nutmeg, it almost reminds me of a hearty White Russian. Enjoyable.

T - Sweet cream, coffee, brown sugar, dark chocolate, and allspice (i think..) It's all mellow and restrained with complexity that suits it. The most mellow Baltic Porter I've had, and one I could see enjoying much of.

M - Creamy, fluffy almost mouthfeel, not a full as I'm used to.

D - In a style filled with high alcohol flavor bombs, this beer really stands out for it's mildness. The complexity is still impressive, with nice mild spice making this a very enjoyable after breakfast drink.

Photo of 51mmz0rz
4.65/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

2004 bottle, poured into a Hoegaarden glass, because that's all I had.

A: Pours with a frothy head, nice with a very dark red body when held up to the light.

S: Really inciting smell of sweet roastiness. Powerful and almost milky.

T: Same sweet roastiness, I love dark malt flavor, this is pretty complex on the finish.

M: Thinner than I would like, but good that it isn't too sweet. Carbonation might be a little high, not a deal killer though.

D: I have to give this a great rating for being pretty clean and refreshing for the style.

Baltic porters are my favorite style, and this is really delicious as I would expect. Lighter than most types of this style, but its a nice change.

Photo of jdhilt
3.48/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a one finger light tan head that fades slowly, leaving some lace. Totally black color. Light-medium carbonation and heavy bodied. Slight chocolate nose. Flavor is chocolate and roasted coffee, some bakers chocolate at finish. $4.20 for a 500ml bottle from Colonial Spirits Acton, Ma.

Photo of stulowitz
3.03/5  rDev -26.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A - Dark ruby with light tan, thick head.

Sm - Roasty, subdued, acidic, bread and toffee.

T - Has a sharp roastyness to it. Is pretty sweet. Hints of caugh syrup or cherries deep under.

M - Pretty light body, well carbonated.

D - Good but not balanced. Way too sweet.

Photo of vtfan77
3.65/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A- Very dark, but clearly not opaque, as some light does get through. A decent head forms upon pouring and dissipates at a moderate pace.

S- Dark fruits and minerals seem to be the hallmark flavors of authentic Baltic Porters, and this beer has both of them. A fig-like fruitiness is backed by a minerally, almost metallic aroma. Some sweet chocolate gives it some depth.

T- More emphasis on the malts here, with some raisiny fruit, chocolate syrup, and coffee. Hops lend a decent bitterness to the finish.

M- Pretty full-bodied for such a low-alcohol beer. Decent carbonation, too.

D- The alcohol isn't very high at all, but it seems like it should be higher due to the beer's full body and richness. I'd probably stop after one of these.

Another solid Baltic Porter from Sweden, not Eastern Europe as I had previously assumed. There's nothing that really stands out about this beer, but it's nice and flavorful. Also, when considering that it's only 5.5% alcohol, the amount of flavor is quite impressive. Recommended for fans of the style.

Photo of cvstrickland
4.28/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

25-ouncer from the 2006 bottling, sporting a best before date of 2016, poured into a pint glass yields a ruby-black body capped with a hefty chunk of light tan foam that retains at a thick sheet and decorates the glass with abstract tan whorls and rings of lacing.

Smells sweet and faintly malty with a roasty note.

Taste is robust and milky-sweet, with winey notes of espresso with gritty cocoa powder. Fruity flavors emerge as the drink warms, and are squashed by a gloriously dry roastiness and a solid bitter finish.

Photo of mully
3.35/5  rDev -18.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Black beer allow very little light in but some comes in around the edges. Dense khaki colored head creamy head

Minnerally nose sweetness was evident, some chocolate

tight, chaocolate clean tasting not heavy

light lacking not nearly as big as I had expected

good dark session beer not really strong in flavor

this was a decent beer but not outstanding.

Photo of beerthulhu
4.4/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Poured a dark, cola color with plum highlights around the edges when held up to the light. The head was compact and creamy, a dark khaki color that quickly settled to a sparse layering but left a beautiful near solid film lacing. Even with its dark nature you can still see the rapid steady jet streams of carbonation bustling to the surface.

S: The nose was dark roasted malts with deep chocolate and fresh coffee.

T: The initial flavor was rich bitter sweet chocolate with dark coffee grains and some lactose/creamer notes adding some sweetness. There was some cocoa and vanilla bean, fresh ripe fruit (plums, raisins) adding to the complex and well balanced profile. There was a noticeable creamy chocolate nature to the drink as well.

M: creamy, rich, and aerated(fluffy) in the mouth with semi-bitter chocolate and fresh coffee for a lacing and fade.

D: Drinkability was simply beautiful, Did not want to sit my glass down for this one and was sad to see it go so quickly. Amazing and worthy of a high recommend.

Photo of mdagnew
4.22/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

500ml bottle bought from The Vineyard, Belfast...

Poured deep dark mahogany brown with a hint of red when held up to the light. Mocha tan head poured pretty thick and foamy with a bubbly top then faded quite quickly to decent coating with thick edging... some light patchy lacing...

Aroma - Lots of lightly roasted chocolate malts, toasted bread, dark sweet fruits (stewed plums, blackcurrents), dark brown sugar sweetness, roasted nuts, light burnt toffee, fresh vanilla, mocha coffee notes, light allspice, some treacle notes...

Taste - Lots of milk chocolate notes, toasted bready malts, nice treacle sweetness which is balanced by light spicy and peppery hop bitterness, prune and date fruitiness, toasted nuts, milky notes, coffee with brown sugar, cocoa powder...

Feel - Smooth and creamy with a little bite just coming through... a very sessionable brew especially at only 5.5%.

Overall - An incredibly well balanced and drinkable Porter but at £3.50 a bottle not something that i'd be buying all the time... definitely recommended though...

Photo of Slats
3.6/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

2006 in 1p 9oz bottle

Appearance: Inky black with a good sticky lace. The lace hangs around to the last sip

Smell: For some reason stewed tomatoes is the first thing that comes to mind and I can't get past that enough to find more.

taste: Tastes like the tomatoes I smell but tamed by the malts. Roasted nut flavors with a touch of coffee. A bit sour on the back end.

Mouthfeel: silky and a touch thin, almost no alcohol warmth.

drinkability: Interesting beer but I find the flavors fatiguing. I can't imagine wanting more than one of these in a sitting. I would keep it to a rare diversion.

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