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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

503 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 503
Reviews: 333
rAvg: 4.11
pDev: 10.95%
Wants: 52
Gots: 22 | FT: 2
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001)
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Photo of Sammy
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1997 edition. A very smooth porter, with some sourness. Very Black and very roasty and other herbs, including fennel aroma and possibly peppermint is very attractive. Chocolate malts Wee small bottle goes pretty quickly. Encourages trying other Swedish brews.

Photo of t0rin0
2.75/5  rDev -33.1%

Photo of spycow
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

2004 vintage with the Stark-Porter label.

Pours an almost opaque super dark crimson brown with a 1 inch foamy dark khaki head that settles to a thin cap. Small dots of lace slowly drip into the remaining beer on the drink down. Smell is of dark malt, dark fruit, dark sugar, vanilla, and some earthy tobacco-like aromas. Taste is of dark malt, dark dried fruit (prune/raisin), leather, smoke, tobacco, and slight cocoa nibs. There is a light roasty bitterness on the palate after each sip. This beer has a low level of carbonation with a medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good baltic porter and a rare treat that is around 8 years old. I am glad I picked one of these up to try.

Photo of djrn2
3.5/5  rDev -14.8%

Photo of zestar
4/5  rDev -2.7%

Photo of acurtis
3.5/5  rDev -14.8%

Photo of Texasfan549
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of metter98
4.18/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

A: The beer is nearly jet black in color (some traces of amber are visible at the edges of the glass when it is held up to the light) and poured with a thin creamy tan head that faded into a thin ring of bubbles around the edge of the glass and lacy patterns in the center.
S: The smell isn't that strong, but has aromas of chocolate, licorice, molasses and roasted malts.
T: The taste is complex, well balanced and similar to the smell. There is a mild amount of bitterness in the finish that contrasts with a slight amount of sweetness in the initial taste.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied and a bit thin on the palate with a low to moderate amount of carbonation.
D: Unlike many of the beers In the style, this beer is extremely easy to drink; it wouldn't be difficult to have several of these in an evening because it isn't very filling.

Note: 2004 vintage

Photo of olradetbalder
3.5/5  rDev -14.8%

Photo of kjkinsey
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of brentk56
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2004 bottling; tasted in 2010

Appearance: Pours a dark chocolate brown color with ruby highlights; the stout-like beige head turns rocky and does a decent job leaving some strands of lace behind

Smell: Chocolate and licorice, along with some dark fruit elements

Taste: Opens with an almost lactic chocolate flavor, with vanilla, licorice and dark fruit flavors developing by mid-palate; after the swallow, there is a little bit of hop balance that arrives, though the sweet, malty elements dominate from start to finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: Certainly surprised that this beer has held up for so long, though at this stage I wouldn't put it in the top tier for the style; would be interesting to contrast with a fresher version

Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Opaque mahogany, although far from a black hole, with orange and garnet accents. Atop the beer is a splendid looking cap of dense foam the color of chocolate chip cookie dough (sans chocolate chips). Too bad it doesn't last all that long and doesn't leave much lace.

The nose is a bit weaker than it should be. Come on, you're a Baltic porter man, smell like one! It's still pleasant, but the greats of the style have no need to worry. I smell roasted malt, a little chocolate and a minor burst of fruity hops. More power and more complexity would be nice, but it gets the job done.

Stark Porter is identifiable as a Baltic porter, although it doesn't clear the style bar by much. It's definitely on the lighter end of the spectrum and isn't really much bigger than the typical American porter in terms of flavor intensity and body. Having said all that, it is a rather tasty combination of chocolate liqueur and black coffee.

I also appreciate molasses notes with an accompanying fruitiness that must be due to hops. There's also a lactic sweetness attempting to fight through the moderate finishing bitterness. Perhaps this beer could be called a milk Baltic porter, akin to a milk stout. With warming, the mouthfeel (and the flavor) finds its mojo and, thence, respectability.

D.C. & C. SP is good beer, but it falls well short of the Perkuno's Hammers and Sinebrychoffs of the world. My penchant for more full-bodied beer means that I love the Baltic porter style. It also means that my praise of this one is something less than full-throated.

Photo of jaydoc
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of ygtbsm94
3.5/5  rDev -14.8%

Photo of womencantsail
3.5/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The pour is brown in color with a small tan head. Some roast malt, dark fruit, and a hint of coffee come through first on the nose. A bit dusty and oxidized. Quite a lot of dark fruit, especially prunes. The flavor is fairly simple. Some roasted malt, chocolate, and tons of dark fruit.

Photo of Knapp85
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Ordered a bottle of this at the Allentown Brew Works once. I was shocked to see how much they were charging for this brew. I could have found it cheaper and which I would have let it in their cooler. Anyway, The beer poured out as a nice looking rich black color. The head was big and strong looking at first but settled down to just a thin tan creamy looking film over top of the brew. The lacing was light on the glass. The smell was full of roasted malts and just some minimal fruit elements shining through. The taste of the beer has a bold burnt bitterness up front, and some dark fruit sweetness which faded into a dark chocolate dry aftertaste. The mouthfeel of the beer had a decent thickness to it. Overall it was way too expensive at $15 a bottle. Should have been half that I think. But other than the price it was pretty good.

Photo of oberon
4.33/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a deep brown almost black with some ruby highlights with a creamy-like off -white head,aromas of chocolate xhip cookie dough and dark roast coffee really made me want to tear into this offering.Flavors as expected were malt dominated some dark roast coffee and bittersweet chocolate along with some raisin.Deeply flavorful and a nice creamy mouthfeel makes this porter one of the better I have had in quite awhile,I think my first Swedish beer that I have had.

Photo of emerge077
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2010 "Klass III" paper label on the front, blue B. United import label on back.

Very light bodied, roasted malt dominates the nose, coffee notes, light roasty bitterness in the taste. Not as robust as vintage versions it seemed. Smooth, coffee and bakers chocolate flavors. Fairly easy drinking, but one bottle satisfies the curiosity of the "Klass III" label, which wasn't too different from the original "Starkporter".

Thanks to Craig for this one!

11-15-2007

A- / 4.25 4/4/4.5/4/4.5

2001 on the label.

This is the 3rd bottle i've had, and xgabe's review convinced me to drink the one i've been cellaring. Cap makes a good pffft sound. Pours into a wide mouth chalice with a good finger of mocha foam. Color is black through the middle. It reduces itself to a skim quickly, but any head is impressive after 6 years in the bottle. A nice ring of foam remains.

Cola and dark fruit, some prune aroma. Almost doughy, it seems to have some yeast character left in it. No roast or boozy sweetness that's almost the norm in Baltic Porters.

Mellow mouthfeel with lower carbonation. It's lighter than some, but age is also a factor here. Much less sweetness than a fresher bottle.

Carob flavor is intertwined with prune, chocolate, tobacco leaf, and a somewhat musty character. A smooth sipper that has no trace of alcohol. It's more of a dessert/nightcap type of thing. Great way to end my Swedish session after a couple IPAs.

It's a #1 cellar candidate, keep several as long as you can, that's my advice.

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.16/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

was fortunate enough to find a 2000 vintage bottle of this for just 13 bucks. the label reads best before November 2010, but im thinking its not past its prime at all. it pours a surprisingly lively darkest of browns, without any light at all able to pass through. the head is made up of micro bubbles of a lighter brown color. the head doesn't last, but its easily reinvigorated with a swirl of my globe. the nose on this is heavy chocolate, burnt malt, ash, and a gentle toffee tickle. it has an aged mellowness to it, very earthy and organic, with roasted barley and cocoa powder dominating up front. the finish is like all the best features of dusty leather, my grandpas attic, mature compost, and smoked pork. its just so complex and delicious. there is a funny astringent bitterness towards the finish and the alcohol stands out more than it should in a beer so low in abv, but other than that its phenomenal. the mouthfeel makes it for me, so gentle on the carbonation, and curiously dry for the style. I love the cocoa powder flavor, it transforms into a cocoa powder feel of sorts, really cool. age has definitely done wonders for this beer, and while ive never had a fresh one, I can assure you that this is one special porter. perhaps also my first beer from Sweden. memorable.

Photo of JAHMUR
4/5  rDev -2.7%

Photo of NeroFiddled
4.47/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2001. Pours a very deep mahogany brown with a reddish cast when held to the light; but appears black in the glass beneath a creamy light-tan head. The head holds fairly well at first but soon dissipates to just a thin collar and some whispy surface foam.The nose expresses a sweet vanilla-laced caramel maltiness and some light, yeasty fruitiness. The body is medium; and it combines with a fine, moderate carbonation to leave it creamy and smooth in the mouth. The flavor is bold; and displays a vanilla/butter/caramel maltiness up-front, and a bit of chocolate towards the swallow along with some earthy/herbal hop flavors and a dull bitterness. It finishes bready with some residual sugary maltiness (molasses, brown sugar, light milk chocolate) and a drying bitterness. Quite exceptional! A classic Baltic porter that's well worth trying.

Photo of Jason
4.63/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Presentation: Short 8.82 oz brown bottle with the vintage date of 1998 on the label.

Appearance: Thin lace though it has neatly textured tiny bubbles that crop up every time you take a sip. Close to jet black, only holding it up to the light will it produce some ruby hues.

Smell: Big sugary molasses aroma with a figgy back, dark caramel all over though chocolaty enough to give off a suggestion of brownies. Faint acidity in the nose also.

Taste: Smooth low level of carbonation with a slick mouth feel and solid full to medium body. Roasted flavours are intense but simple with a bite of charcoal and sweetness around all. Flavours of mild espresso, molasses and dark chocolate engulf the taste buds. Vague signs of age show with a touch of wet paper, this seems to add more good than harm and enhances the rich roasted flavours. From the charcoal flavours are trace woody and vanilla notes as well as a deep earthiness. Vague and lost acidic twang barely makes a dent in the threshold of flavour. Fruitiness is hidden for the most part but glimpses of burnt raisins and prune come to mind. Stays sweet even through the finish and there the alcohol is fairly noticed.

Notes: After four years it has held up very well with little signs of damage. Oxidation is minimal and the acidic twang is far out of reach to be a nuance. Makes you wonder what another year or more will bring to this brew.
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1997: Nearly jet black with a very thin bubbly lace that keeps on coming back after each sip. Smell of dark bread similar to pumpernickel, good amount of sweetness in the nose to soften the roasted aroma. Mild charcoal with woody and bready flavours that want to come in at the same time, very low carbonation that lets the creaminess flow first then a quick yet small smoothness rolls in. Vague acidic twang that is very passive, malt flavours pass back and forth between roasted and bready. Hops are but a dream and seem to be the most faded trait this brew has, thankfully the roasted grain picks up a little of the slack. Hard to tell this brew is on it fifth year, malt is still very fresh on the palate.

Photo of TheManiacalOne
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2006 release, acquired from DrJay courtesy of the Birthday Club 2, so a big “Thank you” goes out to him. Poured from a 16.9oz. bottle into a mug glass.

A: The beer is a deep dark brown color with a short off-white head that fades very slowly and leaves a thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma is full of dark fruit, roasted malts and some chocolate with a touch of hops.

T: The taste starts out sweet and very fruity with flavors of raisins, cherries and chocolate. Then a little bit of smokiness and a hearty malt character provide a lot of substance. Next a mild hops presence comes in to give a good balance. Despite the sweet start, the after-taste is smoky and slightly bitter.

M: Crisp and smooth, medium-to-heavy body, light-to-medium carbonation, slightly sticky finish.

D: Tasty, goes down easily, slightly filling, excellent representation of style, this is a nice beer to sit and relax with, but even though it is got a mild kick, it does not like a beer that I would want to drink a bunch of. Nonetheless, it is a very good beer overall.

Photo of Slatetank
4.4/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I remember having this before when it was Pripps porter, and the flavor has remained true.
Decanted cool into a snifter, the 2004 bottling -best before May 2014.
A - A deep chocolate brown w/ a full 3 finger tan head. The body is almost black w/ a head comprised of tiny unevenly spaced bubbles.

S - Very aromatic with botanical scent w/ mineral qualities like seaweed. There is a tinge of metallic aromas, the smell has vinous and port notes w/ a tad of woodiness and vanilla.

M - A very luxurious, silky smooth and nutty, almost oily feel w/ lots of quickly fading carbonation. There is a spicy piney hop in the middle - a lot is goin' on, a very fine texture.

T - I think the shape of the bottle is important as the bubble in the neck really opens up the aroma and flavors. The taste is of dark malt, slightly toffee-like, and is delivered in a way that is rich, but not overly sweet. I imagine the minerals in the water add to the complexity of this porter. The roast in the start and dry finish w/ the graham cracker like crisp flavor just brings you back for more.
I consider the flavor to be subtle, but intriguing and full of flavor. The taste is the best part.

D - A great beer, session strength, but still one of the top examples of the style. I consider it one of the best. More than 1 pint is not enough, a class act.

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Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 503 ratings.