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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

497 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 497
Reviews: 331
rAvg: 4.11
pDev: 10.95%
Wants: 52
Gots: 24 | FT: 2
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001)
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Photo of feloniousmonk
4.53/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A definitive ebony hue. Good, crackling tan head. As Fred Eckhart recommends, put this one to your ear and listen! Aroma is a blast of espresso, cocoa, anise and molasses. Rich and roasted, with loads of bitterness on the palate and a tenacious finish. Complex, if a bit gritty. Not a brew for novices or girly-men, this is stiff and substantial stuff. Label says best before August 2O1O, but who could wait that long? Unfortunately, the brewery has become bereft of their senses and is discontinuing this classic, so grab one if you can.

feloniousmonk, Dec 01, 2002
Photo of DrunkinYogi
4/5  rDev -2.7%

DrunkinYogi, Mar 21, 2014
Photo of WesWes
4.45/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

The beer pours a deep dark black color with a thick frothy tan head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is awesome! It has a very powerful and rich black malt aroma that is sweet and slightly coffeelike. It is creamy and highly complex. The taste is great. It has a creamy chocolate/coffee flavor that is rich and smooth finishing. It seems high in alcohol, but the label says it's only 5.5%. It has a slightly bitter hop flavor as well. This is a very well balanced porter. The mouthfeel is good. It is a full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is a terrific brew. It is so rich in black malts. It's a very smooth drinking porter.

WesWes, Mar 07, 2005
Photo of jwc215
4.72/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This was the 2004 Vintage.
Poured black with ruby highlights around the edges when held up to the light. The thin tan head soon became a bubbly, well-retained lacing.
The smell was reminiscent of that of robust coffee.
The taste had smoky, charcoal-like characteristics. It had the flavors of rich coffee and bitter chocolate.
The silky, smooth mouthfeel ended with a bitter-sweet aftertaste. There was a very subtle hint of an alcohol finish.
The smooth, delicious, rich taste, along with a low abv for this style, makes this an enjoyably drinkable "session" Baltic Porter.

jwc215, Apr 13, 2006
Photo of Rochefort10nh
5/5  rDev +21.7%

Rochefort10nh, Nov 26, 2011
Photo of smcolw
3.58/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Very dark with a deep tan head that leaves a generous amount of lace.

Sweet chocolate aroma with buttery caramel...the smell is rich, full and inviting. There is a presense of alcohol, but it doesn't detract.

This is a very sweet porter. The hop comes across strictly as a spice. The malt sugars are present thoughout the tasting, even in the aftertaste. The high level of sugars make for a thick consistency. The carbonation is equally high providing a slight contrast to the sweetness.

This is a little too sweet for my taste, even though I can appreciate the complexity of the beer.

smcolw, Mar 06, 2005
Photo of oriolesfan4
3.5/5  rDev -14.8%

oriolesfan4, Mar 15, 2013
Photo of kojevergas
3.3/5  rDev -19.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle into Westlveteren goblet in Stockholm, Sweden. Reviewed live.

A: One finger head of nice cream lacing, good thickness, and fair to bad retention. Colour is a solid black.

Sm: Raspberry fruit ester hops, cream, caramelized malt, and I assume barley. Me nose is broken; sorry lads.

T: Fruit estery body alongside nice cream, slight chocolate, and restrained caramelized malt. Complex enough. Built and balanced well, just not bold or inspired.

Mf: Smooth and wet, with adequate but not overdone coarseness and thickness. There is some strange dryness on the finish that isn't really welcome considering the dying ester flavour that accompanies it.

Dr: Average range ABV, very drinkable, and of a high price. The quality is nothing special.

kojevergas, Jul 14, 2011
Photo of Gueuzedude
3.7/5  rDev -10%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Best by April 2010, Sampled March 2007
As I pour this beer is shows a clear, dark chocolate brown color; it sits in my glass an opaque, black color though. It is topped by a frothy, initially two-finger thick dirtied brown, tan color. The aroma smells of dark aged malts; notes of chocolate, dusty burnt grain husks, some touches of dry cobwebs and toasted soda crackers mixes with notes of port, sherry and a rich, umami like, lightly concentrated meaty malt character.

The flavor is lightly sweet up front, yet moves to a soft roast driven acidity. The sweet malt notes are a mix of sweetened caramel, and sweet chocolate notes. The finish has a touch of coffee like, burnt bitterness to it as well as a chalky, almost tannic, husky burnt character. I really like the complexity that the slight oxidation notes bring to this beer, it adds a meaty richness to this brew, despite that it has quite a light body and mouth feel to it. I think that the roast character may have faded a bit with time as well, though it is still fairly noticeable, and the flavor profile is still largely driven by the dark malt notes.

In the end this is a fairly tasty brew, but I don't see how this is going to last until 2010. It is probably already just past its peak, and I could see this starting to develop cardboard-like oxidation notes pretty soon.

Gueuzedude, Apr 23, 2007
Photo of GClarkage
3.55/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

4/17/05- Purchased at a wine and spirits store in Sonoma, CA

Presentation- 8.8oz bottle, vintage 1997, poured into my Corsendonk tulip.

Appearance- Dark and lightly sryupy pour, no head or lacing whatsoever.

Smell- Very sweet, almost like a prune juice scent. Alcohol fumes as well. Interesting.

Taste- Raisins, prunes, raosted malt in the background with maybe a light coffee grounds flavor. Maybe, just maybe a touch of super dark chocolate as well.

Mouthfeel- Pretty watery, almost like a watered down coffee liquor.

Drinkability- Not bad, but definitely not worth the $4.95 I paid for this not even 9oz of liquid. Worth a try if you can find it for cheaper, but still not a great baltic IMO.

GClarkage, Apr 18, 2005
Photo of duceswild
3.5/5  rDev -14.8%

duceswild, Mar 17, 2013
Photo of Georgiabeer
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours dark brown close to black with a head that quickly dissipates. The smell is typical Baltic porter, if a little lighter than some. Winey, slightly malty with notes of stewed cherries and prunes. The taste is similar to the smell, with vinous notes, prunes, and quite a bit of creamy vanilla on the finish. The mouthfeel is medium weight but fairly creamy and with nicely restrained carbonation. Very nice example and nicely complex especially given the relatively low alcohol.

Georgiabeer, Jan 17, 2007
Photo of wl0307
4.28/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Purchased at the Foreign Beer Bar, NWAF 2008, Manchester. "Argang 2007" says the label, BB 13 NOV 17 ("2017" it means?!), served chilled in a straight imperial pint glass.

A: very dark brown in colour, nearly black, coming with a creamy tan head with good retention and restrained carbonation.
S: a settled fruity aroma as of cherry skins and berry-liquor, plus sweet roastiness like coffee-syrup, black sugar, and sweet nuttiness, with a mildly alcoholic touch as well as a lager's refreshing acidity in the background. Very "quiet", yet also "deep"... and, have I just sensed a touch of banana-esters??
T: caramelised dates, roast nuts, chewy black malts with a hint of finely ground espresso blend approach upfront; in no time the more aromatic and powdery Munich malts (as of a Dunkel) develops, along with bitter-sweet burned sugar and moderate but deep-running herbal bitter hops at the back of the palate. The finish is rather clean (in line with a lager), while the roasty aroma and chewy bitter mouthfeel just linger beautifully (like a true stout)...
M&D: refreshing, with lovely creamy fizz soothing the palate; this Baltic Porter is the lowest-gravity one that I've tried, and yet it provides all the complexities and an even higher drinkability. A delicious, well-hopped, and well-made dark gem this is, really like a chocolate stout blended with a full-bodied and fruity Czech dark lager.

wl0307, Jan 23, 2008
Photo of DoubleJ
4.55/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This is from the 2004 batch. From the Wine Exchange in Orange, on to the beer:

The black/opaque color and light tan head make a great contrast with each other. Smells of smoky/roasted malts with a sweet banana flavor. The flavor is strong, yet mellow. The bitterness is a burnt one from the malts. Trace of chocolate. The beer sweetens as it warms up, adding a hinted fudge flavor. It was extremely smooth, probabaly from the aging, and was much too easy to consume. It's so easy, a caveman can do it. HA! HA! But seriously, try it out if you can get it.

DoubleJ, May 09, 2007
Photo of rhoadsrage
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a nonic)

A- This beer pours a dense black body with no sign of carbonation or light getting through. There is a thick bubbly light tan head that last for a good bit.

S- The aroma of cream and dark roasted malt is well blended with some Munich malt qualities about it.

T- The soft black malt has a coffee hint without the bitterness and a smooth mellow tang to it. There is a mineral water taste to it as the beer warms but it is pleasant. The finish has a touch of roasted malt with a faint smoke quality to it.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a slightly slippery texture and no alcohol heat noticed.

O- The well-blended flavors of dark malt are smooth and very easy to drink but still have some nice depth. There were some grain and pot caramel qualities that are hard to describe in there. It is a great "recreation" of a historic beer and a lovely session beer.

rhoadsrage, Jun 29, 2011
Photo of Zorro
4.38/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Retired? This bottle "Årgång 2004" and was delivered to the store just this week.

Pours a clear extremely dark brown beer with a nice brown head.

Smell is quite rich. Caramelized sugar and rye are the first things you smell. Fruit smell is mostly raisins, plums and figs. The last thing I can smell is a faint whiff of smoke.

Taste is very sweet and malty with a fairly strong hit of smoke and bitterness in the finish. A feisty porter that wants to argue with your tongue. "I am sweet and mild" and then it totally turns the tables "No I am smoky dark, and bitter" a Jekyll and Hyde flavor. Fairly fruity in the middle of the extremes in taste. Nice long lasting bitterness in the taste. Only one minor defect, there is a slight metallic flavor from the dark roasted malts used, just a hint but it is there.

Mouthfeel is thick.

A tasty drinkable beer here, too bad it is $5 a bottle. Full flavored Baltic porter that I can recommend.

Zorro, Oct 18, 2005
Photo of jdhilt
3.48/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a one finger light tan head that fades slowly, leaving some lace. Totally black color. Light-medium carbonation and heavy bodied. Slight chocolate nose. Flavor is chocolate and roasted coffee, some bakers chocolate at finish. $4.20 for a 500ml bottle from Colonial Spirits Acton, Ma.

jdhilt, Jul 29, 2008
Photo of afsdan
4.75/5  rDev +15.6%

afsdan, Mar 23, 2014
Photo of Stinkypuss
4.03/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Carnegie porter 5.5 Porter 2010 edition. They brew another, lighter version as well.

Pours brown with ruby highlights. A nice khaki colored head forms and has staying power. Lacing is abundant. Aroma of deeply roasted malts, bready, and a touch of sea salt. Develops of robust malty flavor, with just a faint notion of smoke used to dry the malts. There is a complimentary flavor of a mild tea like hop balance. Mildly fruity ale yeast is apparent in the finish as well as a
Iight herbal bitterness. Mouthfeel is smooth, delicate carbonation and very easy to drink. In fact, it took me longer to enter this than to drink it. A fine Sweedish export.

Stinkypuss, Aug 26, 2011
Photo of Mebuzzard
4.43/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

1997 argang vintage bottle, 8+oz. Found it at Falling Rock in Denver.
Pours a black, slick body with reddish tints around the edge. 1 finger tan head. Very clean; no residue or lacing along the glass.
Smells of sweet chocolate, roasted coffee, molasses, caramel and bbq sauce. Nothing overpowering, alcohol is vacant.
Taste; very nice blend of the chocolate and coffee. Sweetness of raisin and black plum. Molasses turns into a burnt caramel flavor.
Just when I think it's gonna pack an overwhelming punch, it disappears nicely. Good drinking brew, wish it were a bigger bottle.

Mebuzzard, Mar 26, 2007
Photo of BillRoth
4.5/5  rDev +9.5%

Popped a 10yo bottle of Carnegie Stark Porter in anticipation of trip to Sweden. Cheers to Bark!
Happily no significant oxidation. Have had this many times, but this time worthy writing about. Beer was a soft wash of roasted coffee and bitter chocolate. Excellent mouth feel, which is delightful considering the rather low abv. My 61 yo old nose doesn't pick up much these days, but there is still a nice roasted grain scent and a hint of fruity sweetness. This is just a great porter. May possibly be my favorite ever. As a lover of Porter...No small praise.

BillRoth, Aug 15, 2014
Photo of biegaman
3.56/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Carnegie Porter looks like a liquid raspberry truffle: it's a melted chocolate brown colour for the most part but has remnants of ruby throughout. All the colour is concealed within its dark exterior and only illuminated when held right up against the light. Its head is scattered but manages to coat most of the surface and some parts of the glass.

Truthfully, there isn't much to distinguish Carnegie Porter. The aroma has only entry-level amounts of chocolate and roasted malt, not really enough even to emulate coffee or licorice flavours. There's traces of dark fruits - whether the influence of malt, yeast, or alcohol who knows - but they, too, make only a minimal contribution.

Those unaccustomed to dark beers will find this surprisingly, pleasantly easy to drink; those expecting a true Scandinavian Baltic Porter will be entirely disappointed. This has neither an especially roasted nor hopped presence, with virtually no coffee, chocolate, caramel, toffee, nutty, or molasses complexity and only the most brief taste of dark fruits. Boring.

The label on the back states that "storage helps the flavour mature and helps enhance its harmony"; there's no production or best before date on this bottle but I doubt it's all that fresh. Already the beer tastes oxidized and considerably thinned out. Given this thin a malt bill - and especially at a mild 5.5% - I'd ignore the brewery's recommendations and drink it now.

Carnegie Porter is a dark beer likely to appeal to those most afraid of them; I should have expected such a watered-down product from Carlsberg. There's nothing bold or intimating about this supposed Baltic Porter - it's as much a caricature as the Swedish chef from the Muppets. Scandinavians do much bolder (and better) than this. Don't waste your time on it.

biegaman, Jan 23, 2014
Photo of chinchill
3.53/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Undated 330ml bottle served in a Belgian snifter.

Pours very dark reddish-brown, clear with a tan head of moderate size and retention. Spotty lacing.

Aroma: dark and smoked malts with a hint of dried dark fruits.

Flavor: dark fruits, dark bread, light smoke and a hint of coffee.

chinchill, Feb 06, 2014
Photo of plaid75
3.9/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Argang 2004.

Poured a deep black hue with a one finger foamy tan head. There was good retention and lacing.

The smell featured a soft cocoa aroma with hints of coffee and mild caramel.

The taste consisted of an upfront lactose sweetness that gradually blended with the roasted coffee element The sweetness prevented the flavor from drying out. I was a bit suprised by this.

The mouthfeel was full and chewy, with a bit of an uncomfortable heavy sweetness.

Overall a nice and flavorful porter. Not as dry as I would have hoped however.

plaid75, May 17, 2007
Photo of Latarnik
4/5  rDev -2.7%

Latarnik, May 25, 2014
Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 497 ratings.