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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

502 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 502
Reviews: 333
rAvg: 4.11
pDev: 10.95%
Wants: 52
Gots: 22 | FT: 2
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001)
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Photo of udubdawg
4.38/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

16.9 oz bottle of the 2004 vintage
Pours nearly black, with some reddish highlights where sunlight sneaks through near the edges. Noticeably thin compared to most everything I else I drink that is this color. A tan head formed slowly but eventually reached over an inch in height before fading to an uneven ring with only a couple spots of lacing left behind.

Nose is lighter than I remember it - perhaps it is fading with age though I remember it lasting longer than this before. Still, it is very nice, full of chocolate, dark fruit and molasses. A bit redolent of port wine. Not noticing any alcohol here. I've had other bottles that rated a 4.5 - at least - in this category.

Just as tasty as I remembered it. More of the same from the aroma - rich, carmelized, and a bit roasty, flavors blended about perfectly. Quite sweet, complex, and fruity. Molasses and chocolate lasts into the finish, which also features a pleasant bitterness not noticed before. Excellent.

Very low carbonation and a bit thin across the tongue - a bit surprisingly for how creamy it is. While I wouldn't have more than one very often, that one delicious bottle is extremely drinkable.

Photo of OldFrothingSlosh
4.47/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2000 edition.

Porters have made a strong comback in my book, following the disappointment that was the Polygamy Porter that kept me away for so long. This one was stellar.

Appearance: Poured a near pitch-black in color. Hold it up to the light and nothing passes through it (cue the Dark Knight from "MP and the Quest for the Holy Grail: "None shall pass!"). Creamy smooth and thick layer of toffee-colored head stands upon the body of the beer. There's a fair amount of spotty lace that sticks to the glass as I consumed this.

Smell: In a word...lovely. Chocolate, caramel latte' from Starbucks, raisins.

Taste: Very toffee-like. Heath bar flavor with some smoky flavor showing up at the end. Some dark fruit notes and fresh espresso coffee as well. Milk-chocolate flavor brings a close to this flavorful porter.

Mouthfeel and Drinkability: Nearly top-notch. Low levels of carbonation really enhances the "full" mouthfeel that this has. Creamy smooth. Highly quaffable.

Notes: Sadly, this is no longer brewed and I raise my empty pint glass to AKSmokedPorter for supplying me with this gem. I would love to get me mitts on a few more of these. Well-done.

Photo of yelterdow
4.55/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

16.9 oz. bottle, served at between cellar and fridge temperature in a Duvel tulip. Bottled in 2000, drink by date reads November 2010.

Appearance- Rich, chocolate brown goodness fills my glass supporting a finger-thick light tan head... Spotty lacing dots the surface as the head slowly breaks apart.

Aroma- Smells like a cross between a vintage old ale and a porter... the leather, mildew, and century-old hardbound book elements blend together in glorious fashion with Tootsie Roll chocolate, dark fudge, and dark fruit. No coffee in the aroma, surprisingly... but that's fine with me. Enough complexities here to go on for days.

Taste- Distinguished... Established... Accomplished... these three words come to mind after spending some time with this beer in my mouth. Mature and stately, it's grown up... a beverage with time and sophistication under its belt. The flavors, difficult to decipher individually because of the superb integration, are so cohesive that I marvel at its balance. Figs and plums dance in a molasses-soaked liquor of divinity.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability- Viscous but relatively light in the mouth, the smooth rise and fall is wonderfully complementary to the beer's texture. At 5.5%, it has subtleties and complexities that don't usually reveal themselves in a beer of this strength... and the European hop profile really seals the envelope in the superb finish. Fabulous beer, a gem worth seeking out.

Photo of Jredner
3.9/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Dark brown with a thin head. Smells of chocolate and mildly of molasses. Lightly roasted with sweet malt and more molasses and chocolate. Very mild, but also very compelling. You just want another sip. It almost has a Baltic Porter taste profile, but none of the BP alcohol.

Photo of ELECTRONICAnonymous
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of MoreThanWine
2.68/5  rDev -34.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured a 1 tan head. To me this whole thing comes across as coffee just in slightly varying degrees - the appearance is black coffee, the bouquet is a weak iced coffee, and the flavor is a slightly sweet and mild coffee dessert - like maybe a cold coffee pie slice. Hey I still enjoyed it, there just wasn't a lot of complexity in my sample, and it cost me $8 for a 9 oz bottle so I was expecting more. Perhaps my sample sat on the shelf in Massachusetts too long and if I'd had a fresher sample in Sweden I'd be singing the praises?

Photo of jamie2dope
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This is another beer I always see sitting on the shelf, but am never too sure how long it's been there, so I tend to hold off. In this case however I figured it was a nice change of pace to have a strong Porter on a cold Winter night. It poured a nice dark brown, that was somewhat lighter when held up to the light. Smell was somewhat weak, but did have a nice milk chocolate nose. It was also pretty clean in the smell overall. Taste had lots of burnt coffee beans, bitter chocolate, and the aftertaste you get from a nice cigar. Mouthfeel was a notch above medium, and very nice on the palate. This ia a great beer. It would do well as a sipping beer or as a gulper. I personally found no problem in finishing the sample I had. A really well done effort for the Porter style. Usually I am let down by this style, but when it's right, it really hits the spot. Worth a shot for sure.

Photo of davey101
4.15/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2009 vintage. 11.2 oz bottle with the larger style rectangular label and stick on rear label.

A - Dark brown body that allows a hint of light to penetrate around the edges. One finger light mocha head forms initially and dies down to some edging and a faint cap. Light lacing forms.

S - Initially its roasted malts and some coffee notes. Faint notes of port and red wine/fruits linger in the background.

T - Sweet malts, a bit of charred wood, and dark fruits. Theres also an almost citrus lightness to it. Some metallic and ash notes finish the beer off. Mouth feel is light and creamy with solid carbonation.

O - What an odd beer. It has some roasty tobacco malt notes, but it also has a surprisingly bright fruit element to it. Really delicious aged beer that I got for a bargain price.

Photo of damndirtyape
4.43/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle (2010 date) poured into a tulip glass.

Appearance: Black beer with persistent 1/8" tan head. When held up to the light some light gets around at the edges revealing a dark cola brown color. Little islands and delicate strands of lacing noted. Very nice looking beer.

Smell: With a swirl, cocoa liquor with a nice malt backbone, along with hints of coffee, burnt sugar, and smoke thrown in. Great smelling and very appealing beer. Once the head dies down a bit, fainter chocolate with some fruity (grape?) notes.

Taste: Cream, smooth toasted malt, a hint of chocolate, and a bitter finish that a definite smoky tone to it that lingers a bit after the swallow. Very tasty and well balanced.

Mouthfeel: Good carbonation, a little bit sticky but still very smooth.

Overall / Drinkability: Outstanding beer. Wonderful taste and if this truly is the same recipe as was brewed in 1836, then this is a beer recipe of perfection for the ages. If not, well it's still quite good and I could easily have another one or two. Very good by itself and would be good with a meal as well. I had this by itself but I could easily see having this with beef or a dessert.

Photo of marct
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of Bunuelian
3.75/5  rDev -8.8%

Photo of akttr
3/5  rDev -27%

Photo of BeerBuilder
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours black with ruby highlights. It forms a thick, light brown head with excellent lacing. The aroma is roasty and chocolatey. It has a deep roasted malt flavor. It is expresso-like in flavor also. It is a full-bodied beer, which has a somewhat creamy texture. It was a very tasty porter; I would definitely sample this one again.

Photo of ajs4bd
3.75/5  rDev -8.8%

Photo of nomad
4.43/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2001 vintage - aged 2 years

This beer looked pretty much black, with a mocha-colored thin foam head and not much lace to speak of. Smell was smooth and complex, of malt, dark coffee, dark chocolate, but then some sweet corn-like smell that heavily malty beers sometimes exude.

Taste was thick, rich, and smooth, with some good sweet malt that was calm to the core. Very dark without ever being burdening on the palate, this beer had a very full and tasty roast flavor at the end. In fact, the toast and roast flavors continued to roll around my tongue, seeming to change but was actually just plain old captivating. Had a drying finish but just enough so.

Wish it wasn’t so expensive. Also hard to believe you can age it even more because it was not terribly exciting but definitely better than average. Very easy to drink and drink much of.

Photo of beveragecaptain
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Absurdly small 8.3 ounce bottle. Carnegie porter pours out a black topped with an oily film. Big malty aroma that can be smelled from several feet away. Lots of cookie dough in the aroma, with some cocoa. Roasted malt flavor, followed by sweet dough, like that of a dopplebock. This beer actually makes me think of a stout crossed with a dopplebock. Very little hop flavor. Mouthfeel is a tad watery. This beer left me craving another, but then again it was only an 8.3 ounce bottle.

Photo of rallison
4.43/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Vintage 2004. Very cool retro style yellow and black label stood out to me while perusing HiTime. Despite the ~$6/bottle cost I picked one up. As a baltic porter, I was slightly skeptical of the 5.5% abv on this one. But hey, I figured it was only fair to give it a try.

Pour is a very nice dark ruby black with a 1 finger light tan head that leaves a ton of lacing on the glass. First smell is of molasses, dark fruits and roasted flavors. Nice - lots of aroma for such a low abv beer!

First taste surprises me. This is 5.5%? Lots of molasses and dark fruits. Some nice roasted flavors emerge with a touch of chocolate. Prunes. Delicious mix of flavors, and all in a very sessionable 5.5% abv! Nice.

Mouthfeel is surprisingly rich for the abv, but still a touch light for the style. However, this is a nice upside, as I would love to have a beer like this for evenings when I want a beer that is both flavorful and sessionable.

Drinkability is exceptional.

Recommended. Maybe a different take on the Baltic Porter category, but quite a nice take on it.

Photo of ypsifly
3.6/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

1997 vintage 8.82oz bottle poured into a goblet.

Almost black with so little carbonation there is no head, or anything on top.

Notes of molasses and chocolate malts. Smells very stout like. Slight oxidation noticable.

The taste is very mellow. Chocolate is the dominant flavor, but there isn't much body to this beer. The lack of carbonation and fading of any hops over time leave this brew with zero bite and a rather weak mouthfeel.

I think this one might be past prime.

Photo of Brushkanna
5/5  rDev +21.7%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

WOW that’s a great beer. We had a Porter & Stout beer tasting over New Years Eve and of the 12 beers we tried this was hands down #1. Some of the beers we had were bitter, or had chocolate and coffee flavors, too much going on in some of them. Carnegie Porter had the straight-up porter style that I look for, full flavored, smooth with a short creamy head, World Class. This is the first beer I felt compelled to review.

Photo of kornkid8600
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of SaisonRichBiere
4.5/5  rDev +9.5%

Photo of jackndan
4.4/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

D. Carnegie & Co. Stark Porter 2001 from Sweden: In a big 16.9 oz. Bottle. The label says that the best by date is April of 2010! This is clearly a beer made for cellaring, but I have no time to lose. This beer pours an inky black with ruby tints. Thick full head, with Belgian lace all the way down. Clean light aroma, vaguely like a good Columbian coffee. Creamy mouthfeel, with some carbonation. Initial taste is licorice, which leads to a dark rye/ pumpernickel, and molasses. Very well done, with several layers of tastes. Excellent.

Photo of RedHaze
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

årgång 2006.

Pours a very dark chocolaty brown with some ruby peeking through the edges. The head peaks at about one finger and fades fairly quickly to a thin soapy cap, leaving behind a thin bit of lacing.

Smell; dark roasted/toasted malts, chocolate, coffee and some mild hops. There's some dark fruits going on, and a little malty sweetness as well.

Taste; lots of roasted flavors up front with burnt toast and coffee, and there's a pretty strong chocolate presence. Some dark fruits and a bit of a hoppy bitterness round out the finish.

Mouthfeel is medium to full bodied and with a fairly smooth carbonation it has a pretty silky feel. The drinkability is really good, and add in the fact that, for a Baltic Porter the alcohol level is fairly low, I could easily enjoy a couple of these.

Photo of zenithberwyn
4/5  rDev -2.7%

Photo of Hootie159
3.9/5  rDev -5.1%

Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 502 ratings.