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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

520 Ratings
THE BROS
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world-class

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Ratings: 520
Reviews: 337
rAvg: 4.11
pDev: 10.71%
Wants: 51
Gots: 27 | FT: 2
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".
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Photo of biegaman
3.57/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Carnegie Porter looks like a liquid raspberry truffle: it's a melted chocolate brown colour for the most part but has remnants of ruby throughout. All the colour is concealed within its dark exterior and only illuminated when held right up against the light. Its head is scattered but manages to coat most of the surface and some parts of the glass.

Truthfully, there isn't much to distinguish Carnegie Porter. The aroma has only entry-level amounts of chocolate and roasted malt, not really enough even to emulate coffee or licorice flavours. There's traces of dark fruits - whether the influence of malt, yeast, or alcohol who knows - but they, too, make only a minimal contribution.

Those unaccustomed to dark beers will find this surprisingly, pleasantly easy to drink; those expecting a true Scandinavian Baltic Porter will be entirely disappointed. This has neither an especially roasted nor hopped presence, with virtually no coffee, chocolate, caramel, toffee, nutty, or molasses complexity and only the most brief taste of dark fruits. Boring.

The label on the back states that "storage helps the flavour mature and helps enhance its harmony"; there's no production or best before date on this bottle but I doubt it's all that fresh. Already the beer tastes oxidized and considerably thinned out. Given this thin a malt bill - and especially at a mild 5.5% - I'd ignore the brewery's recommendations and drink it now.

Carnegie Porter is a dark beer likely to appeal to those most afraid of them; I should have expected such a watered-down product from Carlsberg. There's nothing bold or intimating about this supposed Baltic Porter - it's as much a caricature as the Swedish chef from the Muppets. Scandinavians do much bolder (and better) than this. Don't waste your time on it.

Photo of plaid75
3.88/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Argang 2004.

Poured a deep black hue with a one finger foamy tan head. There was good retention and lacing.

The smell featured a soft cocoa aroma with hints of coffee and mild caramel.

The taste consisted of an upfront lactose sweetness that gradually blended with the roasted coffee element The sweetness prevented the flavor from drying out. I was a bit suprised by this.

The mouthfeel was full and chewy, with a bit of an uncomfortable heavy sweetness.

Overall a nice and flavorful porter. Not as dry as I would have hoped however.

Photo of PEIhop
4.5/5  rDev +9.5%

Photo of liamt07
3.86/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of Latarnik
4/5  rDev -2.7%

Photo of beerthulhu
4.38/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Poured a dark, cola color with plum highlights around the edges when held up to the light. The head was compact and creamy, a dark khaki color that quickly settled to a sparse layering but left a beautiful near solid film lacing. Even with its dark nature you can still see the rapid steady jet streams of carbonation bustling to the surface.

S: The nose was dark roasted malts with deep chocolate and fresh coffee.

T: The initial flavor was rich bitter sweet chocolate with dark coffee grains and some lactose/creamer notes adding some sweetness. There was some cocoa and vanilla bean, fresh ripe fruit (plums, raisins) adding to the complex and well balanced profile. There was a noticeable creamy chocolate nature to the drink as well.

M: creamy, rich, and aerated(fluffy) in the mouth with semi-bitter chocolate and fresh coffee for a lacing and fade.

D: Drinkability was simply beautiful, Did not want to sit my glass down for this one and was sad to see it go so quickly. Amazing and worthy of a high recommend.

Photo of johnnnniee
4.05/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle from 2010 sampled 9/30/2011
Pours the darkest of brown with faint ruby highlights when held to light. A good sized creamy off white head dissipates rather quickly, but leaves moderate lace in its wake. Smells of caramelized sugar and dark pitted fruit mostly but has hints of coffee and chocolate on the outer fringes. This one smells like a fine dopplebock honestly. Taste is moderately fruity with hints of chocolate and ash. Deep burnt sugars mix with dark fruit and a little bit of coffee. Medium body with a light level of carbonation and a creamy smooth mouthfeel. This is a very tasty beer. It really straddles the line between porter and dopplebock for me though. Maybe one day I can try a fresher example.

Photo of DrJay
4.6/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2004 vintage. This one poured a clear, very dark brown with purplish highlights and a dense, tan cap. Great head retention and the foam produced plenty of thick, clumpy lacing. A grainy malt and dry cocoa aroma hit my nose first, followed by a light roastiness, dates, and nuts. Very malty with a clean yeast character in the nose. Mild bitterness that sits just underneath the malt notes. Fairly sweet, very malty, with ripe fruit, prunes, and nuts filling out the middle. It finished with a bittersweet chocolate/cocoa flavour. Chewy, malty body with creamy carbonation. Very smooth with a refined texture. Great balance, seems a bit mellowed with some graceful aging. This is a superb baltic porter, highly recommended.

Photo of Derek
4.31/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

2004 vintage.

A: Black with a creamy tan head. Great retention & lace.

S: Roasted coffee, brown sugar, dark fruit, floral hops.

T: Roasted grain has a light coffee flavour, brown sugar, dark fruit bread with nuts, slight mineral flavour, light smoke, some roasted acidity, assertive bitterness. Very impressive depth for its weight.

M: Modest body is quite creamy (impressive for its weight), slight chalky acidity.

D: Quite good.

Photo of LiquidAmber
3.97/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Review from 2/2010 notes. Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Pours a very dark brown with red tint at the edges with a light tan head with good retention and lacing. Aroma of toasted malt and light chocolate. Tasted kind of understated on opening, with dark roasted malt and dark fruit. On warming a bit, the cherry, chocolate, vanilla and molasses started coming out. Great flavoe. Medium bodied with some creaminess. A quite nice low ABV porter. I bought this on a whim without great expectations and was very pleasantly surprised, will buy again.

Photo of flagmantho
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 500mL bottle into a pint glass. This bottle is årgång 2004, so it's got some good age on it.

Appearance: rich, deep amber brown with one thick finger of creamy tan head. Body allows a hint of red light through.

Smell: very nice aroma which is lightly fruity with a roasty and chocolatey backdrop. Somewhat sweet and quite enjoyable.

Taste: like the aroma, there's a nice fruitiness here with a bit of roastiness and chocolate there for character. The flavor is not super strong; that is basically the only drawback.

Mouthfeel: body is on the lighter side of medium, but there's a well-integrated carbonation which yields a silky creaminess. Quite nice.

Drinkability: this beer is more than the sum of its parts. I like Baltic porters in general, and Carnegie is kind enough to clock in at a low enough ABV to basically be a session beer. Great stuff.

Photo of Bighuge
3.7/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

2001: This beer is a very dark ruby. Thin beige head disintegrates to nothing quickly. A coffee scent dominates with hints of mocha as well on the nose. Nice velvet like feel on the tongue. Smooth tastes of chocolate, cocoa and java. Very smooth porter. Very easy drinking. A nice faint bitterness. A solid porter in my book.

Photo of Evil_Pidde
4.08/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Black (with faint deep red notes), with a light brown large thick head that stays for some time before it dissipates leaving some lacings.

S: Heavy roasted sweet malt, faint raisin, some liqourish and some chocolate and faint coffee.

T: Sweet heavy roasted malt, with some dried dark fruit, chocolate and coffee. There is also hops, mostly bitter, but I can sence faint floral notes as well.

M: Body is medium, carbonation is moderate, the bewerage is creamy and smooth. The aftertaste is long and lingering with sweetness but also dryness and bitterness.

D: Well balanced. Nice and a bit complex. A very nice porter from Sweden.

Photo of Duff27
4.05/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2006 vintage.

Thin tan head atop a black/brown beer. Some head retention, no lacing.

Roasted malt, chocolate.

Dark malts. Slight metalic taste due to age. Slight cherry flavor came out as it warm, I like that a lot.

Medium mouthfeel, medium carbonation.

Enjoyed it, held up amazingly for how old/low ABV it was. Heard it was a relatively cheap one to aquire, will be on the lookout for older vintages in the future.

Photo of Gusler
4.08/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Upon its parole from the 500ml bottle 2006 vintage, the beer sets a deep brown to black with strong dark ruby highlights, the head is light chocolate brown, creamy in texture and piled high on the body, lace forms an obscuring sheet. Nose has a rich roasted grain aroma, sweet with a definite espresso tone, caramel, and a hint of semi-sweet chocolate, earthy. Start has a pleasing roasted grain presence, sweet, with a bit of bitterness at the back, light to moderate in feel. Finish has mild acidity, touch of hops, toasted grain semi-sweetness continues to the very aftertaste, quite nice actually, a pleasing beer, not to light, not to heavy.

Photo of bark
4.28/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Vintage 2004.

The colour is opaque black (although the liquid is clear); the large, firm semi-compact foam is brown.

The smell is generous and complex with tones of black coffee, burned malt, sour cream and hints of hops and smoke.

The carbonation is very fresh, but at the same time very soft.

The taste is also complex with a somewhat smoked start. There is a large and creamy body that develops into a passing almost metallic bitterness that is replaced with a soft sweet flavour of coffee and dark chocolate. The harmonic aftertaste got a creamy burned taste with some hints of bitter hops.

This is clearly a session beer that one should take some time to experience. I cannot really grasp how the large brewery of Carlsberg Sverige can produce such a unique and fine beer.

Great stuff, that makes me a little proud as a Swede.

Photo of scruffwhor
3.91/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Poured from a one pint .9 fluid oz bottle into a arlsberg Imperial Pint glass.

Appearance- The perfect pour into my Carlsberg imperial pint glass. A nice tan, two and a half finger head with good retention and film formage. The colro was a perfect mix of brown and black.

Smell- A pretty subdued baltic porter. Hints of walnuts, chocolate, and deep roasted malts.

Taste- Even though this is the weakest abv baltic porter I've tried, it was still very good. Starts out as a sweet nutty flavor, but leads into a chocolate chip muffin flavor. This finish is a light, but dark hop flavor profile with soem hnts at fresh ground coffee.

Mouthfeel- Pretty light for such a dark beer. This would a new session beer if it was more readily available at some Illinois bars.

Photo of avalon07
4.2/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a black color and a thick consistency. There was a large tan-colored, fairly long-lasting head and very good lacing.

S: Smelled of malt, coffee and a sweet element.

T: A nicely done taste of coffee, licorice and malt. Licorice had more of a role than I thought it would. Mild alcohol presence.

M: A good amount of carbonation and a generally smooth finish. Heavy-bodied.

D: Definitely a drinkable Baltic Porter. Sweeter than most, but goes down easy.

Photo of bluejacket74
4.22/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

11.2 ounce bottle, 2010 vintage. I haven't had this in a while (since 2006!), so I figured I would review this one again. Served in a pint glass, the beer pours dark brown with some ruby red tints, and a half inch tan head. The head didn't stay around for too long, and there's a decent amount of lacing. The brew smells like roasted malt, dark fruit, coffee and some bittersweet chocolate. It tastes like roasted malt, nuts, coffee, bittersweet chocolate, and a bit of dark fruit. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's slick and coating and very easy to drink. Just as I thought 6 years ago, this is a good brew that I would certainly have again.

Here's my first review of this beer from 8/19/2006:

This beer is a 2004 vintage. It pours dark brown with some ruby tints to it. I can smell roasted malt, coffee, chocolate and some dark fruit. It tastes pretty much like it smells, very good. The mouthfeel is a bit slick, but also smooth and creamy at the same time. The carbonation is low, and this is a very drinkable porter. This is a pretty good beer, I'd definitely drink it again.

Photo of Griffith
3.75/5  rDev -8.8%

Photo of eawolff99
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of BeerFMAndy
3.53/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

11.2 oz bottle poured into a snifter.
5.5% ABV, "Årgång 2013"

A - Clarity is hard to come by in this black beer, but when held to the light, ruby mahogany shines through. The loose, soapy head disappears to clusters of spore-like bubbles sporadically dotted around the surface of the beer and on the glass.

S - Burnt cheap coffee, burnt toast, and oak give the aroma a charred, metallic scent that finally opens up as it warms up, allowing some dark fruit and fig nuances and a touch of mocha in on the finish.

T - The charred profile continues into the flavor with tons of black roasted malts imparting earthiness, burnt toast, peppery notes, and thin, dry cocoa.

M - Thin-bodied, this light porter is crisp and clean like a lager but without any malt sweetness or body leaving this reviewer wanting more.

O - Roasted and bitter with out backbone, this light (in every sense of the word) Baltic Porter has flimsy, lopsided flavor and the makings of a nice Baltic but little body to back it up.

Photo of cjgator3
4.61/5  rDev +12.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

2004 vintage.

Pours a dark black color with a small fizzy head that quickly dissapears. The nose features molasses, chocolate, roasted coffee, and caramel. The taste features much of the same flavors as present in the nose. Overall, this is an extremely well balanced and highly drinkable porter that stands out as one of my favorites.

Photo of enelson
4/5  rDev -2.7%

Photo of Cyberkedi
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Aroma is malty, smoky and slightly yeasty with a good undertone of fine coffee and molasses. It pours a dark chocolate brown with a thick pale beige head that is fine-bubbled and fairly persistent. Flavor is malty and mocha-ish with just a whisper of sweetness. Texture is smooth and lively though not as thick as that of some other stouts.

Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 520 ratings.