Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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Reviews: 337
Hads: 537
Avg: 4.12
pDev: 13.59%
Wants: 57
Gots: 33 | FT: 2
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Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".
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Photo of templar316
5/5  rDev +21.4%

2004 vintage in my I Believe snifter. Still has a surprising carbonation herringbone head falls back quickly but clings softly to the side of the glass. All the rough edges have been smoothed of this, leaving polished obsidian. Madagascar vanilla, cocoa and the hint of black currant roll past. Evaporating into a dry licorice finish. A dark pleasure!

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Photo of ryan1788a5
4.2/5  rDev +1.9%

11.2oz bottle poured into a pint glass.

A: Very dark brown in color, near black. Beige head settles soon. Small spots of lacing.

S: Molasses, plum, rum raisin, caramel, bready. Faint whiffs of brown cocoa and grassy hops.

T: Brown and black cocoa, caramel and molasses, some yeast, plum, faint grassy hops. Medium sweet. Oak? Very subtle licorice sort of taste. Brown sugar and hints of roasted coffee beans and smoke on the finish.

M: Medium bodied. Some sense of weight and heft in the mouth, but it stops just short of being sticky. Carbonation is very fine-bubbled and scrubs gently. Silky and texturally pleasant.

O: A nice true to style, old school Baltic porter. One of the style benchmarks.

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Photo of BillRoth
4.5/5  rDev +9.2%

Popped a 10yo bottle of Carnegie Stark Porter in anticipation of trip to Sweden. Cheers to Bark!
Happily no significant oxidation. Have had this many times, but this time worthy writing about. Beer was a soft wash of roasted coffee and bitter chocolate. Excellent mouth feel, which is delightful considering the rather low abv. My 61 yo old nose doesn't pick up much these days, but there is still a nice roasted grain scent and a hint of fruity sweetness. This is just a great porter. May possibly be my favorite ever. As a lover of Porter...No small praise.

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Photo of GreesyFizeek
3.94/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle purchased at Beers of the World in Rochester, NY. '04 vintage.

Pours an inky black, with a small filmy head, less than 1/4 inch, and no lacing.

Smells like sherry, port, chocolate, dark fruits, and roasted malt.

I am dumbfounded that a porter of this low of an ABV could last a decade, but it has. It seems a bit thin, and slightly watery, but there are some really nice flavors here. There's vanilla, chocolate, roasted malt, slight oxidation, sherry, port, and lots of dark fruit flavors. Pretty swell.

This one is fairly light bodied for the Baltic Porter style, but with that, it's still very drinkable, and tasty. There is a very low level of carbonation.

This one was impressive because it lasted so long and remained drinkable- it also helps that it tasted pretty good!

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Photo of Tsar_Riga
4.31/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A - Dark brown, nearly black brew, opaque with brown highlights, and a light tan head that reduces to a ring, with mild lacing.

S - Delicious nose of malts and burnt sugars, molasses, with a slight boozy character.

T - Delivers on the nose, but in a quiet, restrained manner. The flavor showcases caramelized sugar and molasses, with a slight hint of smokiness. Very little bitterness.

M - Smooth and surprising light on the tongue, with a mild acidity.

O - The smells from this beer are robust, and while the beer is more restrained when it hits the palate, the overall result is a top-notch porter.

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Photo of spoony
4.14/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From a 330 ml bottle (best by October 10, 2015) into a snifter.

A-The beer is a nice-looking ebony brown/black color with about one finger of tan head. I get some lacing on the glass as I drink, but the head retention is on the shorter side.

S-The aroma is simple at first, but reveals more complexity with each new sniff. I get some roasted flavors, but overall bitterness and smokiness are moderate. The malts are earthy with aromas of tobacco, prunes, and molasses. There is some caramel sweetness and dark fruit, too.

T-The taste is not quite as intriguing as the smell, but is pleasant nonetheless. There is just a bit of acrid, smokey bite, as well as caramel, molasses, earthy oak, and a bit of rye bread crust. Bitterness is pretty low for the style, but the beer packs a little touch of pleasant, coffee-like acidity.

M-The feel is medium in heft with a chunky carbonation that is below average in volume.

O-This is a very nice beer. The aroma, in particular, just keeps revealing new flavors with each sniff and each new flavor just seems to fold into the rest in a really pleasing package. The taste is a bit simpler and the mouth is a touch lighter than I would like, but I would happily drink more of this.

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Photo of mikeg67
3.89/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Bottle 2013, Klass III. Pours black with small, creamy, beige head and nice lacing. Aroma is of floral hops, toasted malt, dark fruit and coffee. Body is full and slightly crisp. Taste is of toasted malt, coffee, vanilla, brown sugar, dark fruit and floral hops. Finish is long and bittersweet. Very nice porter.

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Photo of 57md
4.04/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a dark brown color with ruby edges. The beige head was less than full finger and it dissipated down to a thin film rather quickly. The nose had mild roasty notes. The flavor is a well balanced combination of dry roast and hop bitterness. The hop presence appears to be slightly above the norm for the style, but it makes for a terrific finish alongside the dryness of the roast profile.

This offering is hard to rate in comparison with other Baltics. It seems to be more in the vein of a classic Baltic while most contemporary beers of the style are heavier in body and roasted malt. I'll just say that this is a unique and very tasty offering.

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Photo of chinchill
3.52/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Undated 330ml bottle served in a Belgian snifter.

Pours very dark reddish-brown, clear with a tan head of moderate size and retention. Spotty lacing.

Aroma: dark and smoked malts with a hint of dried dark fruits.

Flavor: dark fruits, dark bread, light smoke and a hint of coffee.

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Photo of biegaman
3.57/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Carnegie Porter looks like a liquid raspberry truffle: it's a melted chocolate brown colour for the most part but has remnants of ruby throughout. All the colour is concealed within its dark exterior and only illuminated when held right up against the light. Its head is scattered but manages to coat most of the surface and some parts of the glass.

Truthfully, there isn't much to distinguish Carnegie Porter. The aroma has only entry-level amounts of chocolate and roasted malt, not really enough even to emulate coffee or licorice flavours. There's traces of dark fruits - whether the influence of malt, yeast, or alcohol who knows - but they, too, make only a minimal contribution.

Those unaccustomed to dark beers will find this surprisingly, pleasantly easy to drink; those expecting a true Scandinavian Baltic Porter will be entirely disappointed. This has neither an especially roasted nor hopped presence, with virtually no coffee, chocolate, caramel, toffee, nutty, or molasses complexity and only the most brief taste of dark fruits. Boring.

The label on the back states that "storage helps the flavour mature and helps enhance its harmony"; there's no production or best before date on this bottle but I doubt it's all that fresh. Already the beer tastes oxidized and considerably thinned out. Given this thin a malt bill - and especially at a mild 5.5% - I'd ignore the brewery's recommendations and drink it now.

Carnegie Porter is a dark beer likely to appeal to those most afraid of them; I should have expected such a watered-down product from Carlsberg. There's nothing bold or intimating about this supposed Baltic Porter - it's as much a caricature as the Swedish chef from the Muppets. Scandinavians do much bolder (and better) than this. Don't waste your time on it.

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Photo of BeerFMAndy
3.53/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

11.2 oz bottle poured into a snifter.
5.5% ABV, "Årgång 2013"

A - Clarity is hard to come by in this black beer, but when held to the light, ruby mahogany shines through. The loose, soapy head disappears to clusters of spore-like bubbles sporadically dotted around the surface of the beer and on the glass.

S - Burnt cheap coffee, burnt toast, and oak give the aroma a charred, metallic scent that finally opens up as it warms up, allowing some dark fruit and fig nuances and a touch of mocha in on the finish.

T - The charred profile continues into the flavor with tons of black roasted malts imparting earthiness, burnt toast, peppery notes, and thin, dry cocoa.

M - Thin-bodied, this light porter is crisp and clean like a lager but without any malt sweetness or body leaving this reviewer wanting more.

O - Roasted and bitter with out backbone, this light (in every sense of the word) Baltic Porter has flimsy, lopsided flavor and the makings of a nice Baltic but little body to back it up.

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Photo of rixcat
4.03/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

I went into my local well-stocked beer store and cruised for eye-candy as neither my memory nor my heart could come up with an otherwise specific reference. I saw the label, the color, the unique bottle shape and I was at the register faster than I could change my mind. I came home, started heating up the kitchen cooking and anticipating what my mind was computing my heart's eye's whim came up with at the beer shop and I could stand it no longer. I popped my stellar bottled "firmament" anxiously pouring it into a handy pint glass to find a most satisfying cooking companion to prepare my palate for the delicious spicy peppers and pasta meal I was preparing. Round, brown, sweet, and smooth. A lucky privileged guy am I. Some of the elements I find in this drink I also look for in my morning espresso, my other main hobby. This is now a permanent inclusion to my short go-to list, awesome everytime brew.

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Photo of bennetj17
4.3/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Black appearance, but not very dense or thick. You can see through the edges a bit in the light. The head is thin, with a tan foam that settles leaving a pencil thin ring. The nose has a faint roastiness, with suggestions of caramel and toffee.

The flavor balances nicely between toffee sweetness and roasted chocolate malts. I'm getting a bit of vanilla as well, and the finish leaves a keen bitterness on the tongue. The alcohol seems quite mild, and I'm trying to figure out how this qualifies as a Baltic Porter. The mouthfeel has just the right degree of thickness, with a sharp carbonation that holds up well.

Overall I'm glad this was recommended to me. It's a fairly robust porter with good depth of flavor and supreme drinkability. Definitely a nice change from the typical American style porters that are so common. Highly recommended.

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Photo of cyclonece09
3.6/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 11.2 oz bottle into a mug. Pours pitch black with a foamy brown head. Smells of chocolate, a little coffee. Tastes of raisins, fruit, and candy, quite surprising. Beer lightly carbonated full body nice finish. Overall a slightly above average beer.

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Photo of pants678
4.29/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Nearly black with a brownish head.

Coffee on the nose.

Roasted malts and espresso but the mix of the two does not hide a rich chocolate/marshmallow tone. Not so much cacao as cocoa as it's a brighter, sweet flavor. But, really, the espresso pervades the palate and can seem almost like an iced coffee without the weirdly rough, twisted back end.

Looks stout but has a thinner, lighter feel though it seems too rich and smooth to be a porter.

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Photo of SeanDonahue
4.09/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

This is a beer from Sweden that you don't see everywhere. I have only seen it sold in a 12 fl. oz bottle so it's something that a browser might skip over at the beer store.

The appearance on this beer is exactly what I would want. It is a very dark brown with some light brown settling at the top. Very little head when poured.

The aroma I get from this beer contains a ton of malt. There are big bready notes in this beer, a ton of grain to be admired.

The taste on this beer is interesting. On the first taste, there are big malt notes that come through. Halfway through, there is a bitter quality that comes out. Mixed in with that, you get those big grains that come out and settle in your mouth.

Overall, this is a fantastic beer if you just want one quick brew with not too much alcohol and a big interesting taste. Sit on the back porch like I am now and enjoy your brew!

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Photo of FLima
3.9/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

This beer dates back to 1836, which was a surprise for a Swedish beer.
Deep black color with a thin head with low retention.
Grainy raw malt aroma with clear mocha notes.
Flavor of roasted and toasted malts, dark chocolate and earthy hops. Hints of licorice, raisins and figs.
Very dry aftertaste with a long lasting residual taste of dark malts, cocoa powder and hops.
Full body with low carbonation.
What a beautiful Baltic Porter. If you like dark beers, it is a must.

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Photo of Budinetz
5/5  rDev +21.4%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Poured feom the bottle vigorously into a goblet.

A- poured an opaque, jet black with a tan foamy head. Great retention and some of the most amazing lacing I've ever seen in a porter, hugging all sides of the glass with an extravagant display.

S- smells of sweet serendipity! Reminds me of funny cake almost...If you Pennsylvania Dutch-German background folks know what I'm talking a chocolate aroma with an ever so slight coffee smell.

T- tastes of slight diacetyl, but not over the top. Some sweet toffee/caramel flavors. Perhaps an ever so slight pumpernickel? Pretty awesome brew overall!

M- very slick on the tongue. Almost buttery but not over the top. Quite drinkable at 5.5% and does not tarnish the palete.

O- a historic brew! One of the first original style porters I've had and one that will always be near and dear to me. This is the brew you should introduce yourself with when trying a porter for the first time.

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Photo of ThisWangsChung
4.11/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

I was surprised to see this in my Neighborhood Liquor Store™, so of course I had to bite the bullet. 11.2 oz bottle into a pint glass, 2010 vintage.

A: Pours a dark ruby color. It appears pitch black from a glance, however it shows ruby-red edges when held up to a good light. The head is a two finger light mocha shade. It doesn't retain itself well, unfortunately, but manages to leave behind good lacing.

S: Rich as hell, yet also quite sweet. Aside from mild (and expected) oxidation, there are also strong notes of dark fruits, along with a good helping of cocoa powder. It does a good job of coming across bigger than it really is.

T: The opening flavors, indeed, are sweet and fruity. After that, it gradually dries out. A midtaste full of luscious cocoa powder becomes lightly ashy on the finish and aftertaste. However, it remains plummy throughout the flavor profile, and even shows some good depth.

M: It's got a lighter body, with a mild finishing dryness helping to keep some of the sweeter flavors in check. Carbonation is low as expected, but not quite flat. It's quite easy to drink given its relative rich flavor.

O: Lowish carbonation aside, this has aged like a champ. A shame I'll likely never be able to find this again (barring a trade) because this is really excellent stuff. And hey, I didn't have to drink a crappy Carlsberg lager or sell my soul for a bottle of Kaggen! Stormakstporter just so I could tick a Swedish brew!

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Photo of BeerZack
4.14/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Dark brown with ruby highlights and generous foamy tan head that crowns the beer. Very subtle nose, nothings jumping right out. Hints of caramel, roast and chocolate, with even a bit of alcohol as it warms, but its all very much in balance. Mild coffee and hint of Burgundy wine, even a bit tannic mouthfeel, but only serves to balance the malt sweetness.

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Photo of StonedTrippin
4.18/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

was fortunate enough to find a 2000 vintage bottle of this for just 13 bucks. the label reads best before November 2010, but im thinking its not past its prime at all. it pours a surprisingly lively darkest of browns, without any light at all able to pass through. the head is made up of micro bubbles of a lighter brown color. the head doesn't last, but its easily reinvigorated with a swirl of my globe. the nose on this is heavy chocolate, burnt malt, ash, and a gentle toffee tickle. it has an aged mellowness to it, very earthy and organic, with roasted barley and cocoa powder dominating up front. the finish is like all the best features of dusty leather, my grandpas attic, mature compost, and smoked pork. its just so complex and delicious. there is a funny astringent bitterness towards the finish and the alcohol stands out more than it should in a beer so low in abv, but other than that its phenomenal. the mouthfeel makes it for me, so gentle on the carbonation, and curiously dry for the style. I love the cocoa powder flavor, it transforms into a cocoa powder feel of sorts, really cool. age has definitely done wonders for this beer, and while ive never had a fresh one, I can assure you that this is one special porter. perhaps also my first beer from Sweden. memorable.

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Photo of Ethanol4one
4.9/5  rDev +18.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

Very dark, with an average head, this beer sneaks up on you like base jumping Airborne Ranger delivering flowers that you forgot for your best girl as you walk up to her doorstep, with its mildly sweet, malty and perfectly balanced slight hopped aroma, and a just short of moderately thick mouth feel, like that of a stout. In fact, I'd bet a case that most people would identify it as a stout, if they were not told it's labeled a porter.

My first reaction right down to the last drop was that "this beer is perfect", so there's that. Although, the second one tasted more sweet to me, after pairings with some of the excellent olives Beer Table serves.

I had it at Beer Table, on tap in Brooklyn, where they really care about teh suds.

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Photo of ummswimmin
4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I had this as part of a beer experience program at my favorite tavern. If this wasn't part of the program, then I would have probably missed out on this beer.

The bar served this beer with a tulip style glass. The porter was dark with just a little bit of opaque brown at the edges of the glass. There wwas pretty minimal foam that dies down pretty quickly. It isn't a surprise that there wasn't lacing due to the style.

I picked up a lot of chocolate off the top of the Carnegie. There was also some coffee, but that comes way after the chocolate. The flavor follows the nose on this one. This is a pretty tasty beer. You continue to get the chocolate and lighter coffee. There is even some light hopping.

This is a pretty good porter overall.

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Photo of mralphabet
4.15/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 4

Bottle poured into Sam Adams Perfect Pint Glass....

A: Poured a deep dark brown with a red tint. Good fingers worth of head that settled to a thin layer with wonderful lacing from start to finish.

S: Big strong sweet aromas... lots of molasses, chocolate, licorice, and a little toast.

T: A lot like the smell.... All the sweetness is there right up front, then there is a hit of bitterness that balanced things out.... Starts sweet ends bitter.

M: Strange mix here... Somewhat light but medium bodied at the same time smooth but has a little sharpness from the cabonation.

O: Very interesting Porter here all the sweetness you want but there is a touch of bitterness that brings everything back. Great ABV that makes this a pretty damn good session beer. Worth looking for it you can find it.

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Photo of Offa
4.97/5  rDev +20.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This is an outstanding, complex, yet highly drinkable baltic porter. Despite being at the low abv end for the style, it does not lack character.

Almost black, it has a medium tan head very slowly shrinking to foamy ring & wisps, some lace.

Aroma is rich anisy prunes, dark sweet toast, dried dark fruits, chocolate.

Taste is wonderful toasted dark brown bread, singed prunes, anisy-woody elements, roastiness, wood. It has firm sweetness, light engaging bitterness. Finish is roasty and woody with dry cocoa. It is engaging and lively but the feel, though not oily, is full.

It is an outstanding balance between rich, full character, complexity, and easy drinkability.

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Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
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