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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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336 Reviews
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Reviews: 336
Hads: 533
rAvg: 4.13
pDev: 7.99%
Wants: 56
Gots: 31 | FT: 2
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".
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Reviews: 336 | Hads: 533
Photo of amherstdrew
4.29/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Opened my last bottle (16.9 oz) of the 2001 with great anticipation. Poured into a pint glass. I picked up this bottle along with one other at Spirit Haus in MA, but drew the wrath of a smart cashier who somehow knew that they were the last two bottles in the store. He told me he had a case waiting at home, and then it was my turn to give the glare. Sometimes you just wish there was more to go around...

quickly...
smell: deep and rich like a late night thunderstorm... strong like coffee bean with a hint of molasses.

pours: maroon and then dark in the glass, minimal tan head which diminishes after about 15 seconds.

taste: delicious. low carbonation, but evident enough that there is a little zing apparent underneath the initial creaminess. the creaminess is refreshing, kind of like the froth at the edge of a wave coming in, with a nice cool finish lying underneath. after taste is like a deep oak, or moist rye bread. leaves a little zing on the middle of the tongue that helps the flavor linger.

as the beer goes.... eases up a little bit. a slight sweetness creeps in, maybe figs or bittersweet chocolate. frankly I think this beer might need another two years to mature and even out a bit. a little less carbonation and a little smoother finish might help it out. that said, it's really a quite good experience. there aren't a lot of great porters out there -- or at least that are accessible -- but i think it's one of the better ones. that said, i'll still take the sinebrychoff over this one. that beer leaves you with a little more at the end of the night, whereas this is a great one to sit in front of the fireplace on a rainy evening and enjoy. hope to find more in the future... (1,713 characters)

Photo of lackenhauser
4.33/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2004 vintage-Pours a deep,deep ruby brown-borders on black but theres some great ruby highlights visible when held to the light. No real head to speak of. Low aroma-some roasted malt and a low level of yeastiness. Great big malty flavor-not overly astringent as some porters can be. Nice blend of chocolate and roasted malt. Mild bitterness. Lingering sweetness-somewhat trecle like in the finish. Wonderful body. An excellent beer and an even better porter-Baltic or otherwise. Very well balanced and rounded. At $5 a bottle I would like to see this in an affordable 6 or 4 pack. This could become a common occurance! (618 characters)

Photo of ypsifly
3.62/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

1997 vintage 8.82oz bottle poured into a goblet.

Almost black with so little carbonation there is no head, or anything on top.

Notes of molasses and chocolate malts. Smells very stout like. Slight oxidation noticable.

The taste is very mellow. Chocolate is the dominant flavor, but there isn't much body to this beer. The lack of carbonation and fading of any hops over time leave this brew with zero bite and a rather weak mouthfeel.

I think this one might be past prime. (484 characters)

Photo of MrSeth
3.45/5  rDev -16.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a tumbler a brown color, but ends up basically an opaque black color in the glass. Thin tan head, fizzles out quickly - no retention, carbonation is still apparent on the surface.

It smells like a porter right away. But not much of a nose.. just some rich coffeeish and molasses with just a hint of smoke and hops.

Light-medium bodied, but seems light for a porter.. lots of carbonation grabs the tongue. I like a porter that shows this much carbonation, but it is really strong this time around. Medium rich malt flavor, but not smokey or toasty.. kind of plain in that regard. As far as the hops, it's vaguely hoppy. Not foward like an American porter and not as subtle as a British.. Eh.. it is highly drinkable though. (741 characters)

Photo of Wonka
4.68/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

5,5%Alc/Vol.
1 Pint. 9 Fl. Oz.
2004

I had one at Ludwig’s Garten in Philly a few weeks back and I had to come back for a review after I found it locally.

Appearance – spot on color with the black core and the light barely sneaking by at the fringes; monumental, frothy mocha head that holds long; lace is respectable, but it could be better-bringing in down from perfect

Smell – chocolate, molasses, some vanilla and dark fruit; the least exciting portion of the package but I still almost stamped it a 4.5

Taste – big malts; molasses and dark chocolate straight from the Whitman’s Sampler; coffee; vanilla comes through which was a certain pleasantry; bitterness comes through in close but its not overpowering

Mouthfeel – incredibly lush to the close where the desert sets in; carbonation is perfect

Drinkability – turnover is so easy, but that dryness sets it back just a bit

Undeniably, D. Carnegie’s porter is top shelf. (957 characters)

Photo of Gagnonsux
4.01/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2004 vintage. Color is pitch black with a large, tan head. The aroma is rather light and has an earthy malt smell. The taste of of earthy malts with a roasted edge. Coffee and chocolate are noted. Finish is sweet and stays with you. A nice hop body provides complexity and balance. Very good porter here, definently would like this one in my fridge again. (355 characters)

Photo of canucklehead
3.65/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Picked up a 1997 bottle from Archer's Ale House in Bellingham. The beer was black as black with minimal head. The nose was winy and old fruity. The taste was aged and vinous with the burnt malts in the background. I felt that this bottle was maybe too old as the midbody seemed slightly hollow. I know that this beer can be cellared eventhough it is only 5.5% but I feel the low abv may have let some of the bigger flavours dissipate. I enjoyed this beer but wanted a bigger set of flavours. (491 characters)

Photo of oberon
4.32/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a deep brown almost black with some ruby highlights with a creamy-like off -white head,aromas of chocolate xhip cookie dough and dark roast coffee really made me want to tear into this offering.Flavors as expected were malt dominated some dark roast coffee and bittersweet chocolate along with some raisin.Deeply flavorful and a nice creamy mouthfeel makes this porter one of the better I have had in quite awhile,I think my first Swedish beer that I have had. (466 characters)

Photo of GClarkage
3.56/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

4/17/05- Purchased at a wine and spirits store in Sonoma, CA

Presentation- 8.8oz bottle, vintage 1997, poured into my Corsendonk tulip.

Appearance- Dark and lightly sryupy pour, no head or lacing whatsoever.

Smell- Very sweet, almost like a prune juice scent. Alcohol fumes as well. Interesting.

Taste- Raisins, prunes, raosted malt in the background with maybe a light coffee grounds flavor. Maybe, just maybe a touch of super dark chocolate as well.

Mouthfeel- Pretty watery, almost like a watered down coffee liquor.

Drinkability- Not bad, but definitely not worth the $4.95 I paid for this not even 9oz of liquid. Worth a try if you can find it for cheaper, but still not a great baltic IMO. (713 characters)

Photo of Sammy
4.12/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1997 edition. A very smooth porter, with some sourness. Very Black and very roasty and other herbs, including fennel aroma and possibly peppermint is very attractive. Chocolate malts Wee small bottle goes pretty quickly. Encourages trying other Swedish brews. (259 characters)

Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.1/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Opaque mahogany, although far from a black hole, with orange and garnet accents. Atop the beer is a splendid looking cap of dense foam the color of chocolate chip cookie dough (sans chocolate chips). Too bad it doesn't last all that long and doesn't leave much lace.

The nose is a bit weaker than it should be. Come on, you're a Baltic porter man, smell like one! It's still pleasant, but the greats of the style have no need to worry. I smell roasted malt, a little chocolate and a minor burst of fruity hops. More power and more complexity would be nice, but it gets the job done.

Stark Porter is identifiable as a Baltic porter, although it doesn't clear the style bar by much. It's definitely on the lighter end of the spectrum and isn't really much bigger than the typical American porter in terms of flavor intensity and body. Having said all that, it is a rather tasty combination of chocolate liqueur and black coffee.

I also appreciate molasses notes with an accompanying fruitiness that must be due to hops. There's also a lactic sweetness attempting to fight through the moderate finishing bitterness. Perhaps this beer could be called a milk Baltic porter, akin to a milk stout. With warming, the mouthfeel (and the flavor) finds its mojo and, thence, respectability.

D.C. & C. SP is good beer, but it falls well short of the Perkuno's Hammers and Sinebrychoffs of the world. My penchant for more full-bodied beer means that I love the Baltic porter style. It also means that my praise of this one is something less than full-throated. (1,559 characters)

Photo of WesWes
4.45/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

The beer pours a deep dark black color with a thick frothy tan head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is awesome! It has a very powerful and rich black malt aroma that is sweet and slightly coffeelike. It is creamy and highly complex. The taste is great. It has a creamy chocolate/coffee flavor that is rich and smooth finishing. It seems high in alcohol, but the label says it's only 5.5%. It has a slightly bitter hop flavor as well. This is a very well balanced porter. The mouthfeel is good. It is a full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is a terrific brew. It is so rich in black malts. It's a very smooth drinking porter. (643 characters)

Photo of smcolw
3.58/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Very dark with a deep tan head that leaves a generous amount of lace.

Sweet chocolate aroma with buttery caramel...the smell is rich, full and inviting. There is a presense of alcohol, but it doesn't detract.

This is a very sweet porter. The hop comes across strictly as a spice. The malt sugars are present thoughout the tasting, even in the aftertaste. The high level of sugars make for a thick consistency. The carbonation is equally high providing a slight contrast to the sweetness.

This is a little too sweet for my taste, even though I can appreciate the complexity of the beer. (594 characters)

Photo of Sixpoint
3.91/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

For some reason, I always put this beer in a head-to-head matchup with Okocim and Sinebrychoff. They're all considered Baltic Porters, but if you look at the ingredients and starting gravities, they're completely different approaches to what is considered the same style.

I find this one to be the least complex of the three. I enjoy this one though; I think it has a number of redeeming qualities. First of all, consider the deep toffee and caramel aroma... it's impressive. Also, the yeast strain they use has a nice balance of dry crispness with fruity esters.

A couple of things I think this beer lacks is substance in body and enough character from the chocolate and patent malts. Perhaps this is different when the beer is tasted fresh? The sample I am using to assess was a bottle that had been aged for almost a year; it would be interesting to see what this beer tastes like at the brewery.

All in all, it's a great beer, but not one of the best Baltic Porters I've had. (989 characters)

Photo of blitz134
3.73/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured just like a Coke, except nearly opaque black. The head formed just as one on a Coke would and even elicited the same color. I find the smell weak overall and lacks that typical slightly toasted aroma. The smell that is there is slightly sweet from the malts with some slight chocolate hints . The taste is typical of porters that don’t try to imitate a stout. Coffee is picked up predominately and is balanced well with a non-toasted malt flavor. Right after draining this one from my mouth there is a sharp,crisp sensation. The mouthfeel is what makes this beer for me. It is extremely creamy and coats the mouth well. I could see myself having a couple of these if they weren’t 5 dollars a 16.9oz bottle.

Overall this is a decent beer. There are other porters out there which are stronger in flavor. If they could kick the flavor up a bit and keep the mouthfeel the same then I think I would like this one even more. Is it worth the price tag? It depends… (970 characters)

Photo of Quaffer
4.3/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

16.9 oz. bottle, vintage 2001.

Appearance: This was a very dark beer, almost black. Only when the glass was held up to the light could its true, deep red color be seen. A two-finger head rose up easily and settled very slowly. It became very dense, being comprised of tiny bubbles that ramped up the side of the glass. A nice amount of light lace was left behind.

Smell: Right after the pour, sharp, tart fruit assaulted the nose with an acidic bite. As the head settled, so did the aroma. The sour, dark fruits mellowed and were joined by dark, bitter chocolate and coffee. Some heavily roasted malt floated over the top. It still had quite an acidic bite to it, though.

Mouthfeel: On the heavy side of the medium-bodied scale and creamy smooth. A wonderful, mouth-filling buttery presence. Very nice.

Taste: Pretty straightforward from start to finish. Plums, dates, and raisins represented the dark fruit that was in the smell. This was countered nicely by sweet cream and dark chocolate. Some lighty sweet cherry came through on the finish. Nice deep, rich flavors.

This is a great porter. I just wish it was available here. Thanks for the bottle, Rob! (1,171 characters)

Photo of mzwolinski
4.09/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours thick and utterly black. Almost no head or carboation at all. Heady aroma of chocolate, molassess, plum and tobacco. Oddly, this beer looks and smells like it would feel a lot thicker than it actually does in the mouth. It's not thin, mind you, but can be deceptive especially given the Imperial-stoutish character of its appearance and aroma. The flavor, though, is quite rich. Chocolatey sweet with dark fruits at first, followed by roasty, roasty malts that linger well into the aftertaste. This isn't a stout. And it's refreshing that it doesn't pretend to be one. It is, however, a nicely robust porter. (614 characters)

Photo of Crotor
4.37/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Wee little nip bottle, 1997 vintage.

There's only the most minor hiss on opening. The beer pours exceedingly dark but thin, like an old pot of dorm-room coffee. There are some minor, tan bubble around the edge of my snifter, but really no head to speak of. It shows its age, but gracefully. It's like Sophia Loren - she looks old but she still provokes naughty thoughts.

Smells primarily of dark-roasted coffee and chocolate, with a hint of a deep and dank candied fruitiness. There is also a bit of *highly* caramelized malt, as well as perhaps a bit of bready malt.

Feels think and watery in the mouth after all these years. At 5.5%, it might never have been that bulky to begin with. Carbonation is low... almost feels like flat cola in the mouth. I'm not objecting to it, it's just another sign of its age.

In the mouth the roastiness is more subdude than would be expected, allowing a carmelized, candied fruit maltiness to shine through. At this age the flavors strike a nice balance.

An impressive beer, and one that has certainly held up well. I wish I could see what this one is like when fresh... (1,121 characters)

Photo of ghurux86
4.03/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 3.5

this bottle says 1998. pours a dark dark brown with no head and no lacing. almost looks like flat coke. the smell is great though malt and some chocolate. taste is the same as the smell with the malt lingering in the aftertaste. mouthfeel is somewhat thick and feels really smooth almost like milk or something. i'd probably drink some more if i had it, but if i had something else better, i'd take that. a pretty good brew overall. (432 characters)

Photo of wailingwench
4.15/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1997 vintage bottle, Premier Gourmet, Buffalo, $4.20

Eye Candy: Jet black, dark brown edges. Thick creamy 1 finger head. Swirling brings the character back. Some sticking to the sides of the glass. Superb retention.

The Nose Knows: Brown sugar sweetness, raisins, and light molasses.

Tongueland: A tad thinner than it looks and smells. Rich, deep brown sugar profile with dark fruit middle. Toffee and thin molasses finish. Lingering touch of cocoa. Warming alcohol at the end.

Bender Factor: This was a once in a lifetime. For $4.20, no. I was expecting someting better. Not to say that this was shyte, just didnt meet my 4 dollar expectations. Regarless, solid brew. Worth seeking out the newer, less expensive years. (731 characters)

Photo of bark
4.28/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Vintage 2004.

The colour is opaque black (although the liquid is clear); the large, firm semi-compact foam is brown.

The smell is generous and complex with tones of black coffee, burned malt, sour cream and hints of hops and smoke.

The carbonation is very fresh, but at the same time very soft.

The taste is also complex with a somewhat smoked start. There is a large and creamy body that develops into a passing almost metallic bitterness that is replaced with a soft sweet flavour of coffee and dark chocolate. The harmonic aftertaste got a creamy burned taste with some hints of bitter hops.

This is clearly a session beer that one should take some time to experience. I cannot really grasp how the large brewery of Carlsberg Sverige can produce such a unique and fine beer.

Great stuff, that makes me a little proud as a Swede. (850 characters)

Photo of trancefishy
4.04/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

1997 vintage.

pours out thinnish looking, dark dark brown, nearly impermeable to light. zero head. a few largish bubbles, but they disappear and leave nothing save for the faintest ring around the edges.

aroma is a big kick in the olfactory pants. huge, tremendous malt character, yet very delicate. powerful smells of figs and plums, a bit vinous, some oak rambling around as well. cherries, grapes are there too. it doesn't smell fruity, but the elements are present. excellent aroma.

taste is the aroma, but in cool liquid form. malts are there again, but now the fruitiness is playing out a bit more. there is an nice grape taste and a bit of oak woodiness. nothing too distinctive, very mellow, with well married flavours. for whatever reason, this reminds me of balsamic vinegar. it doen't taste like vinegar in any way, but the flavours in balsamic are running around somewhere backstage. aftertaste is sweet and gentle.

mouthfeel is a bit thin, and certainly undercarbonated. i'm not sure if it would be bettter with more carbonation or not. this beer strikes me as delicate.

good stuff, interesting, and certainly the oldest beer i have ever drank. i am curious what the fresh, and in between fresh and 7 years tastes like.
good though, recommended. (1,275 characters)

Photo of sulldaddy
4.14/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I am drinking a 1997 vintage bottle. Room temp and in a snifter. The beer pours a pitch black color with a small tan head foams up a little even with a vigorous pour. The head fades quickly to an edge layer and then disappears completely within 2 minutes.
Aroma is chocolate and caramel with a light pine hop scent surprisingly coming through. SMooth creamy texture and average body are present in this brew. Very light and gentle carbonation, almost non-existent. Flavor is chocolate and roasted malts with some brown sugar sweetness appearing. the beer is silky smooth and very easy to drink. Not sure about other years, but this one is quite tasty. try this year 1997 or others. (682 characters)

Photo of gbontrag
4.42/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

50F. 97 Vintage, just like the picture.

Black, no head just a few tan bubbles. Looks a reflection of motor oil in a glass.
Smell a bit of yeast, vinous alcohol, and barley soda pop.
oh my god, that's beautiful. Melted bittersweet Callebaut chocolate with bubbles. A little prune syrup, a bit oily like blackstrap molasses. Leaves a puff of deisel smoke as it departs. A very economical beverage. Meaning it's not so layered, or thick and fruity, or hopped up that it jumps all over the palate as if it were a trampoline. This beer is smooth with a smoky bite, with easy barley fruitiness, balanced alcohol and carbonation that reminds me of the difference in ride between my HONDA civic and a towncar. Many beers are variations of a civic: Good rides with personal embellishments that make the civic unique. This Baltic porter gives a ride like a towncar, smooth. Loved it, and could drink buckets of it. (910 characters)

Photo of dauss
4.32/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2001 vintage
Presentation: 16.9 oz fat brown bottle with a yellow and black label, best before april 2010.

Smell: Intensely roasted malt, with a touch of expresso. Heavenly sweet aroma with a very light

Appearance: Pours a very dark ruby red that produces a medium fluffy tan head with fair retention. leaves a good amount of lacing on the glass.

Mouthfeel: light fizzy carbonation makes for a creamy mouthfeel, loads of coffee and chocolate. Light gentle bitterness and sweetness throughout the entire taste.

Notes: This is my first baltic porter and I like. Very taste and drinkable. (599 characters)

Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 336 ratings.