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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

495 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 495
Reviews: 330
rAvg: 4.11
pDev: 10.95%
Wants: 52
Gots: 23 | FT: 2
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001)
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Photo of BikeChef
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2006 the bottle says. Pours a deep dark brown, with a lacy head. Smells of dried fruits and roasty-ness. Mmmmm... this is a very nice porter. Molasses mixed with more dried fruits and toast in a very drinkable beer. Tastes bigger than its 5.5%. Wish this was more affordable in the US-- I'd drink this all fall and into the winter.

BikeChef, Nov 03, 2010
Photo of Reagan1984
3.75/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Big thanks to Masterski for providing this in a recent trade. Alex is a good man.

Very creamy 2+ finger of beige head sits atop this beer. It slowly collapses but takes it's time and shows excellent retention. The beer is almost as black as an Imperial Stout. Help to a bright light you get some slight light coming through. Nice sheets of lacing.

Aroma is malty, caramel and a whiff of alcohol which is strange since it's only 5.5%.

Roasted malt and chocolate notes dominate here. A slight molasses flavor as well. Somewhat musty as well. Perhaps a little licorice here.

Fairly thick bodied and dry on your tongue. A slight dry or powder like feeling on your tongue. A little abv heat which again is strange at 5.5%.

The end of the flavor is slightly abrupt which cuts down on the drinkability for me. It's good and you can't say it's watery, but still the flavor ends quickly.

Reagan1984, Oct 24, 2010
Photo of KarlHungus
4.47/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer pours a nearly opaque black color. The head is two inches in height, and recedes very slowly into a one inch cap of lacing. This is a very sexy looking beer. The aroma roasted malt, cream, and a lot of black licorice. The taste is mostly of black licorice, with hints of cream and black malt. There is a firm roasted malt bitterness in the finish. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with moderate carbonation, and a smooth texture. Overall, this is a very good beer that I will definitely drink again.

KarlHungus, Oct 21, 2010
Photo of crossovert
3.33/5  rDev -19%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

500ml bottle, says Argang 2004, i doubt that is it's production year. The back has the date of 12 OKT 14 on it. Apparently it is from before 2009.

It pours a dark brown with hints of brownish red on the far edges. The head is sandy and tan and recedes with some lacing.

This one smells very fruity and alcoholic. It reminds me of a Belgian dark ale rather than a Baltic porter form the smell. There is a hint of chocolate that remains the only hint to the style.

The flavor is more porter-like but it seems a bit thin. There are strong hints of coffee and chocolate along with some dark fruits. Very, very chocolatey.

Overall it is a bit thin and watery for the style, not really worth the pickup imo.

crossovert, Oct 05, 2010
Photo of Stunner97
4.85/5  rDev +18%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

2006 edition

Appearance-pitch dark black with very nice tan head, no carbonation to be seen what so ever, dark and ominous appearance great look

Smell- wow beautiful smell world class, roasted espresso, chocolate, roasted malts, just so appealing on the nose,

Taste- wow this is the epitome of complex, roasted malts, chocolate, hops on the finish, soft yet pleasant booze on the finish.very balance super complex and just such an amazing porter in terms flavor im blown away and such long lingering beautiful finish

Mouthfeel- smooth creamy and medium bodied, nice low carbonation and good feel

drinkability- just amazing, world class porter here, i got if for 99 cents cuz the place thought it was distressed and discontinued, but wow, cant believe that at 5.5 a beer can be this great 4 years later, amazing and probably best porter i have had privilege of having, if you see it get it you wont be sorry

Stunner97, Sep 26, 2010
Photo of MoreThanWine
2.68/5  rDev -34.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured a 1 tan head. To me this whole thing comes across as coffee just in slightly varying degrees - the appearance is black coffee, the bouquet is a weak iced coffee, and the flavor is a slightly sweet and mild coffee dessert - like maybe a cold coffee pie slice. Hey I still enjoyed it, there just wasn't a lot of complexity in my sample, and it cost me $8 for a 9 oz bottle so I was expecting more. Perhaps my sample sat on the shelf in Massachusetts too long and if I'd had a fresher sample in Sweden I'd be singing the praises?

MoreThanWine, Sep 18, 2010
Photo of STEG
3.95/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Room temperature pour into a Mikasa widemouth glass

Creates a pitch black mass in my glass with a two finger fluffy dark khaki head extruding from the abyss that dissipates into layer of fine bubbles.

Some agitation reveals some interesting smells. Smells that can be described as dank darkfruits and muskiness and old beer, and a salty briney character as well with the expected coffee and chocolate flavors taking a backseat as mere undertones.

Taste reveals more of the same initially you're hit with a dank musky taste that has some dark fruits like plum and raisin in there as well. At the back are some light coffee notes

Mouthfeel is very light and watery surprising given the style but its still smooth. I was hoping for something a bit thicker and more chewy.

The taste causes this musky beer to take a hit in the drinkability category but it was worth a shot, I'd be willing to give it a second chance on tap.

STEG, Aug 26, 2010
Photo of yeahnatenelson
4.13/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Årgång 2004

Thrown in as an extra by Jwiss22 - what a great guy!

Appearance -- Pours a dark brown, black in the glass, with an abundance of dark khaki head.

Smell -- Roast malt, raisin, figs, cocoa powder, malted milk, and red wine.

Taste -- Vibrant malt sweetness up front: raisin, cabernet grapes, and figs. There's also some pleasant smokey/roast flavors, like cocoa powder, char, molasses. There's a little bit of wet cardboard-y oxidation, but it hardly detracts from all of the benefits that aging has brought.

Mouthfeel -- Medium to full in body with mild carbonation. Smooth.

Drinkability -- If you told me a 5.5% beer would maintain this well over the course of six years, I wouldn't have believed you. Great stuff.

yeahnatenelson, Aug 13, 2010
Photo of Mjoepp
4.18/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Black liquid with a quite big light browish head. Medium and small bubbles, leaves some lacing on the glass.

S: Roasted (sweet) malt, coffee, lil' bit of choclate.

T: Roasted, coffee, choclate. Watery when swallowed, leaves a bitter roasted taste as aftertaste.

O: Quite impressed, deserves to have survied all these years.

Mjoepp, Jul 23, 2010
Photo of 100floods
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Vintage date says 2004. Pours coca-cola brown, with some half finger head. Smells a little sweet, a little roasty, some smokey hints in there too. First sip was good, second was a even better. Smokey, roasted, a little dark chocolate flavors, a little sweet aftertaste, similar to a rauchbier, but it also reminds me of zywiec's porter. I had this beer years ago when I first started getting into beer and I found it again, and I'm glad I did. Such a refreshing difference from most american porters (this one is swedish). The smokey flavors are a nice touch, just enough presence that I won't complain. Nice light beer, nice rich flavors. I'd love to have this on cask sometime.

100floods, Jun 27, 2010
Photo of brentk56
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2004 bottling; tasted in 2010

Appearance: Pours a dark chocolate brown color with ruby highlights; the stout-like beige head turns rocky and does a decent job leaving some strands of lace behind

Smell: Chocolate and licorice, along with some dark fruit elements

Taste: Opens with an almost lactic chocolate flavor, with vanilla, licorice and dark fruit flavors developing by mid-palate; after the swallow, there is a little bit of hop balance that arrives, though the sweet, malty elements dominate from start to finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: Certainly surprised that this beer has held up for so long, though at this stage I wouldn't put it in the top tier for the style; would be interesting to contrast with a fresher version

brentk56, Jun 19, 2010
Photo of biglite351
3.38/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

My bottle was a 2004, so it was a 6 year old brew.

A - a bit of red showing around the edges. Light tan tight head that leaves basically no lacing.

S - a little bit of a wine scent at the start. After that there are malts and caramel or chocolate.

T - fruit, probably raisin, malts, butterscotch,synergy a little coffee.

M - very smooth. Nice thickness, but not much coating nor tingle or other feeling.

D - very tasty and smooth, but the sweet raisin taste would get a little old after glass number two.

biglite351, Jun 15, 2010
Photo of matty
3.98/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pitch black colored beer with a rapidly fading head.Aroma is very pleasant with dark fruit and cocoa powder.Taste is dark fruit,caramel,butterscotch and chocolate.A very flavorful and good beer.I would highly recommend and definetly purchase again in the near future.

matty, May 24, 2010
Photo of mfaulk
4.6/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

33cl bottle from a systembolaget in Stockholm.

A: rich and dark. Small head, leaves some lacing.

S: smells like a doppelbock. Some raisin bread.

T: Great. Chocolate, raisins. Well-balanced subtle flavors, a tad sweet, then fades to a faint bitterness, like walnuts or baking cocoa.

M: Just right. Satisfyingly body, but it took will power to go through this bottle slowly. Very light carbonation. Smooth and creamy, then fades and makes me want more...

D: 33cl is just too small of a bottle.

mfaulk, Apr 21, 2010
Photo of Aenema
3.95/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

3/26
(2006 Vintage)
Appearance - Pours deep black with a fluffy, tan head.
Smell - Dark, roasty malts.
Taste - Strong coffee grounds, cocoa; not much sweetness or bitterness, just intense roastiness.
Mouthfeel - Smooth feel with a light-medium body. Lifting, low carbonation.
Drinkability - Enjoyable beer that has much more flavor than the abv would suggest.

Aenema, Mar 31, 2010
Photo of BeerImmediately
4.22/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

2004 vintage into stout glass in the 45 degree range.

Pours with a healthy 3F of creamy, tan head over top of a deep brown body with burgundy edges. Nice amount of lacing present.

Powdery cocoa aroma, with butterscotch, molasses, and some bark in the back.

What a creamy, pleasant mouthfeel. Cocoa aroma transforms into milk chocolate with Kahlua, butterscotch becomes more pronounced with warming, and some roasted coffee bean finish throughout.

This goes down FAR too easily - thankfully, it's under 6%. Highly recommend that you pick this one up if you see it.

BeerImmediately, Mar 13, 2010
Photo of ktrillionaire
4.75/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Vintage 2004. Drank 2010.

Important: this Porter tastes like a proper Porter, and not like an alternate Stout. That is part of the reason why it is so dope. Many a purported Porter these days is suspiciously similar to a Stout. This one, as I said, differentiates itself definitively and definitely.

A – It pours as black as crude, with a moderate tan foam, and some decent lace action.

S – The aroma is not extravagant, but it is succinct and sublime, as is everything about this brew. It basically smells of dark malt, light oxidation and notes of cinnamon and smoke.

T – Again, it is not strongly flavored, but it is phenomenally smooth and balanced. I can't believe this beer is nearly six years old. The taste is full and richly malty, but not sweet, with subtle suggestions of dark fruit, plums, fig and a hint of roasty oxidation.

M – Very hearty. Exceptional.

D – Again, I am shocked that this brew is nearly six years old. At 5.5%, I wouldn't think it would keep so well. But it certainly does.

ktrillionaire, Mar 08, 2010
Photo of krunchie
4.38/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours an opaque black liquid with a nice tan, very thick and creamy head. Looks delicious! The head was almost entirely gone after 2 minutes...too bad, it looked great. Left a bit of nice lacing though.

S: Black malts and barley, I mean really you can really smell the raw grain! I like it, it smells fresh. Raisins and dark rye bread, some sweet milk chocolate and figs. Dried fruit and resin, no hop aroma. Estery and roasty.

T: Mmm, very roasty and toasty. Black malts, can really get the raw malt thing again. Malty and balanced, once again no hops (I don't want any hop flavor in this style of beer ethier, so that's a pro) and perfect bitterness. Less fruitiness in the flavor, much more raw roasted barley flavor and coffee. Get some more resin and a slight smoked wood flavor, quite grainy and hard caramelized like bread crust. Molasses and an "aged" character I like very much. Not very fruity in the flavor, very clean and refreshing which I think really makes this beer outstanding! A true winner

M/D: Easy to drink, medium body with perfect CO2 for the style. Smooth on the palate and crisp on the tongue, creamy but not too thick. Goes down easily!

I was surprised, this is a mighty fine beer! Great flavor and a clean roastiness, but still refreshing and leaving you wanting more. I should definitely go buy some more...

krunchie, Feb 14, 2010
Photo of unHipHopHead
4.58/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Should mention that the bottle I purchased was vintage 2004 and discounted from $7.99 to $5.99... there may have been some heavy moving involved.

a: a full head that resolved into a thin lace with medium bubbles attracted to one side. also, jet black color with caramelized bead and bubbles.

s: lots of molasses and a hint of chocolate. Like an aged scotch, I detect hints of woody and vanilla notes as well as a deep earthiness.

t: heavy roasted flavors with a bite of charcoal and sweetness around all. Flavors of espresso, molasses and dark chocolate.

m: smooth, thick and syrupy with a hint of carbonation.

d: an extremely solid porter that one could enjoy as a final wish.

As a Porter lover this was an enjoyable experience. All in all, this is one of the best Porters I have tried. I generally enjoy the Deschutes Black Butte (especially cask!) as well as the Alaskan Smoked. I wasn't expecting much from a Swedish brew but wow, this is a winner.

unHipHopHead, Feb 01, 2010
Photo of rarbring
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This bottle is from 2009.

A very dark brown beer, almost black. The head is tan and melts down leaving quite some lace.

The smell is like stepping into a storage room full of dried plums, dates, figs and raisins. And somebody poured a cask of sherry over them and smashed the cask leaving some woody aromas as well.

The beer is rather light to drink, the taste is vinous and sweet with dried fruits. The hops are noticeable - probably due to being quite young. Hints of chocolate and coffee.

A creamy nice mouth-feel, a medium light carbonation.

A beer to drink quietly after dinner.

rarbring, Jan 24, 2010
Photo of Jayli
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

consumed 1/16
2004 vintage picked up at Gordon's in Watertown
Thanks to speakorspasm for the recommendation

A: This beer pours a thin deep, dark, chocolate brown with a one finger of creamy offwhite head. Some spotty lacing is left on the glass.

S: Nose is heavy on the fruits, prune and raisins really dominate the nose, and hints of caramel malt.

T: Taste is rather sweet. Dark fruits really dominate at the initial step. Slight hint of raisins, but prune is the real dominant fruit flavoring. Chocolate and deep burnt malts fill out the middle. Finish is vanilla, some cherries, and a mild hop presence.

M: Medium body, low carbonation, clean and crisp with a dry finish.

D: This is a very nice take on a baltic porter. Not too filling and goes down easily. The sweetness in it lessens the drinkability for me, but is perfect to enjoy a pint or two.

Jayli, Jan 17, 2010
Photo of StJamesGate
3.98/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2007 vintage.

Pours dark ruby with webs and carpets of off white lace. Where's the nose? Very light aroma of bark. Roasty malts up front with ash, cold coffee, and milk chocolate. Sweet middle. Mint and herbal hops close. Dry, light, smooth, round.

All about balance. Perhaps a challenge to what some other brewers are putting out as a Baltic, which is basically an Imperial Porter. But this is understated, subtle and oh so drinkable.

StJamesGate, Dec 28, 2009
Photo of KTCamm
4.15/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Spotted at the Morton Williams in NYC. 500 ml (or so) bottle. Poured into a pint glass. 2004 vintage as identified on the bottle.

Pours jet black with low white foam. Jet black, compltely blocks out the light.

Very minor roasted smell.

Lightly sweet chocolate taste, some roasting in there. Hints of minor fruits - plums, raisins, etc. Dry finish. Oddly full in the mouthfeel, but watery at time as well. But very smooth. Notes of coffee taste.

A very well made porter, good drinkability.

KTCamm, Nov 27, 2009
Photo of brownbeer
3.95/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2004 vintage poured into a snifter.

A- Dark brown with a thin cream color head.

S- Malted milk balls, cocoa powder, with a certain fruitiness.

T- Yoo-hoo, a light fruity coffee note that's slighty bitter.

M- Light with very little carbonation, which defies all because the head retention is great.

D- Very drinkable due to the light body and lack of intensity.

brownbeer, Oct 16, 2009
Photo of augustgarage
4.45/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

To celebrate the return of darkness and rain to Los Angeles (if not mudslides), I decided to have a Swedish themed Monday evening. So, I blasted Bathory, Watain, and Marduk while putting together a quick smörgåsbord of mustard herring, creamed chard, and risgrynspudding, consumed while re-watching Lilja 4-Ever.

To top things off, I found a suitable beer to begin (and round out) my evening.

Poured from a 500mL bottle into my Dogfish Head shaped pint glass. Bottled in 2006.

Dense seal brown body with a truly massive tan head. Mesmerizing tentacle-like lacing, suggestive of Jackson Pollock. Settles to a messy finger of foam with perpetual retention. No real legs, though not surprising as the ABV is on the low end of the scale for the style.

Potent aromatics - pumpernickel, coffee cake, toasted malt, licorice, along with lots of dark fruit esters.

Roast coffee, earth, figs, caramel, chocolate covered malt balls, and honey form the palate. Sweetness lasts for quite some time, but the finish becomes very toasty and slightly dry. Exceptional spice notes as well: clove, coriander, and hints of cardamom.

Not quite medium-bodied. Carbonation is pretty high, making this a very mouth-filling and creamy brew.

The most drinkable baltic porter I've ever had, without relinquishing much if any flavor despite the lower ABV. If not for the high price, I would choose this as a session ale over many English or American porters.

augustgarage, Oct 13, 2009
Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 495 ratings.