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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

517 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 517
Reviews: 337
rAvg: 4.11
pDev: 10.71%
Wants: 51
Gots: 25 | FT: 2
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".
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Photo of trancefishy
4.04/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

1997 vintage.

pours out thinnish looking, dark dark brown, nearly impermeable to light. zero head. a few largish bubbles, but they disappear and leave nothing save for the faintest ring around the edges.

aroma is a big kick in the olfactory pants. huge, tremendous malt character, yet very delicate. powerful smells of figs and plums, a bit vinous, some oak rambling around as well. cherries, grapes are there too. it doesn't smell fruity, but the elements are present. excellent aroma.

taste is the aroma, but in cool liquid form. malts are there again, but now the fruitiness is playing out a bit more. there is an nice grape taste and a bit of oak woodiness. nothing too distinctive, very mellow, with well married flavours. for whatever reason, this reminds me of balsamic vinegar. it doen't taste like vinegar in any way, but the flavours in balsamic are running around somewhere backstage. aftertaste is sweet and gentle.

mouthfeel is a bit thin, and certainly undercarbonated. i'm not sure if it would be bettter with more carbonation or not. this beer strikes me as delicate.

good stuff, interesting, and certainly the oldest beer i have ever drank. i am curious what the fresh, and in between fresh and 7 years tastes like.
good though, recommended.

Photo of sulldaddy
4.14/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I am drinking a 1997 vintage bottle. Room temp and in a snifter. The beer pours a pitch black color with a small tan head foams up a little even with a vigorous pour. The head fades quickly to an edge layer and then disappears completely within 2 minutes.
Aroma is chocolate and caramel with a light pine hop scent surprisingly coming through. SMooth creamy texture and average body are present in this brew. Very light and gentle carbonation, almost non-existent. Flavor is chocolate and roasted malts with some brown sugar sweetness appearing. the beer is silky smooth and very easy to drink. Not sure about other years, but this one is quite tasty. try this year 1997 or others.

Photo of gbontrag
4.42/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

50F. 97 Vintage, just like the picture.

Black, no head just a few tan bubbles. Looks a reflection of motor oil in a glass.
Smell a bit of yeast, vinous alcohol, and barley soda pop.
oh my god, that's beautiful. Melted bittersweet Callebaut chocolate with bubbles. A little prune syrup, a bit oily like blackstrap molasses. Leaves a puff of deisel smoke as it departs. A very economical beverage. Meaning it's not so layered, or thick and fruity, or hopped up that it jumps all over the palate as if it were a trampoline. This beer is smooth with a smoky bite, with easy barley fruitiness, balanced alcohol and carbonation that reminds me of the difference in ride between my HONDA civic and a towncar. Many beers are variations of a civic: Good rides with personal embellishments that make the civic unique. This Baltic porter gives a ride like a towncar, smooth. Loved it, and could drink buckets of it.

Photo of dauss
4.32/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2001 vintage
Presentation: 16.9 oz fat brown bottle with a yellow and black label, best before april 2010.

Smell: Intensely roasted malt, with a touch of expresso. Heavenly sweet aroma with a very light

Appearance: Pours a very dark ruby red that produces a medium fluffy tan head with fair retention. leaves a good amount of lacing on the glass.

Mouthfeel: light fizzy carbonation makes for a creamy mouthfeel, loads of coffee and chocolate. Light gentle bitterness and sweetness throughout the entire taste.

Notes: This is my first baltic porter and I like. Very taste and drinkable.

Photo of WOLFGANG
4.03/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

Bottle states that this beer cellars well. Best before April 2010.

Dark pitch coloring with hint of ruby red at the bottom of the glass. Beautiful billowing creamy head atop its light bending opaqueness. Head disapates leaving minimal lacing.

Incredible smells of roasted malt, coffee, dark chocolate, and dark fruits. Mmm.

Tastes like a chocolate latte. Add a smoky bitterness toward the end and there it is. Somewhat simple, but that doesn't detract from the great taste. Medium profile could be a little thicker, IMHO.


Easy drinking, low ABV beer which would be excellent for the months ahead. A good beer. Only one I had though. I'll have to replenish my supply.

Photo of rugger
3.82/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This guy poured a very deep black that you would expect to see with a stout. There was a very small head, even when trying to build a big one with a vigorous pour. The little head that there was quickly left the building. The smell was of a caramel/roasty/nutty mixture that was very interesting and exciting. The taste had a very cabonated twang to it that never went away, however underneath that was a very complex carmel, molasses nutty mixture that was very nice and unexpected along with a thick molasses like mouthfeel, I also figure that there was some lactose in there as well. I wish I knew what the rest of the label says. I would drink seveal of these on a nice cool evening.

Photo of RedBaron
4.43/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Never had this Swedish legend before. Glad I finally got around to trying one!

Appearance: Poured jet black. Quickly disappating off-white head. Nice, lite collar throughout, however.
Smell: Pleasantly roasty and toasty. Not much by way of aromatic hops.
Taste: Although delightfully roasty up front, there is a very complex malt character to this beer that really satisfies the palatte. There may be a slight lactose component, with a little sourness, also. There is also a bittering hop character in the finish, and a slight, pleasant yeastiness, too. Outstanding.
Mouthfeel: Wonderfully balanced; left an alcoholic trace after the bittering hop, which was much appreciated.
Drinkability: An outstanding beer, one to sip easy on a cool evening.

This beer sort of reminds me of the classic bottled Guinness, circa 1994, before pasteurization (or at least when their was a nice sourness, and hoppier character to it). The difference, however, is that this Stark-Porter is a stronger brew, and would probably hold up well over many years.

Photo of shippos
4.18/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2001 vintage

poured with a dark brown-black color with some brown ruby highlights in the bottom of the glass and a cream tan pillowy head.
complex aromas but I can pick out sweet milk with a earthy peated character and some chocolate. very smooth and rich mouthfeel when tasted cold but thins up a bit when it warms up. very balanced in it's flavors, it has a black malty bitterness that in the aftertaste. a very well brewed easily drinkable example.

Photo of OldFrothingSlosh
4.47/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2000 edition.

Porters have made a strong comback in my book, following the disappointment that was the Polygamy Porter that kept me away for so long. This one was stellar.

Appearance: Poured a near pitch-black in color. Hold it up to the light and nothing passes through it (cue the Dark Knight from "MP and the Quest for the Holy Grail: "None shall pass!"). Creamy smooth and thick layer of toffee-colored head stands upon the body of the beer. There's a fair amount of spotty lace that sticks to the glass as I consumed this.

Smell: In a word...lovely. Chocolate, caramel latte' from Starbucks, raisins.

Taste: Very toffee-like. Heath bar flavor with some smoky flavor showing up at the end. Some dark fruit notes and fresh espresso coffee as well. Milk-chocolate flavor brings a close to this flavorful porter.

Mouthfeel and Drinkability: Nearly top-notch. Low levels of carbonation really enhances the "full" mouthfeel that this has. Creamy smooth. Highly quaffable.

Notes: Sadly, this is no longer brewed and I raise my empty pint glass to AKSmokedPorter for supplying me with this gem. I would love to get me mitts on a few more of these. Well-done.

Photo of craftbrewer
5/5  rDev +21.7%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Hands down the best porter I've ever had, Baltic or otherwise.

Brown/choclate and patent malt notes in the nose, some maltiness.
Flavor is a wonderfully complex mix of smooth chocolate and roasty flavors, with a hint of crystal/caramel. Body is smooth and mellow. Low bitterness gives a slightly sweet character. Finishes with a pleasant grainy dryness that lingers with a great complex toasty character.

I have tried over 500 commercial beers and this is my all time favorite

Photo of PorterLambic
4.6/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A beautiful pitch black brew with a 1 1/2" tan head that drops to 1/2" smoothly. Some scattered, coarse lace.
Smell was of roasted malt, oak, coffee with a hint of toastiness to it.
Taste was wonderfully complex, with roasted malt and a coffee tinged oakiness, a bit of dark chocolate & a hint of vanilla (?) this was just perfectly balanced.
Mouthfeel was very nice, creamy, full-bodied and smooth with just the right amount of carbonation.
This brew is supremely drinkable, in fact, the only thing I can possibly knock it on: I would have liked a little smoky flovor to it. I would have gone almost all 5's then. A tremendous beer.
For the record, mine was a 2001 on the label (the picture on the site shows 1997) and I noticed at the bottom of the back label was printed "Best before April 2010. Yes, 2010. A three year old beer with 7 more to go. I'll be looking for more of this.

April, 2007

I found more! A 2004 vintage. The appearance score drops slightly due to minimal head retention but the taste and smell increase due to finding the previously sought smoke character which was all over the nose, mouth and aftertaste that just lingered forever (with vanilla) at the back of the throat. Buy it, drink it, want more.

Photo of rkhaze
4.77/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Poured a really dark chestnut color. Small, quickly disappating tan head.
Deep classic aromas of sweet roasted malt, coffee and dark chocolate.
Big complex rich flavors of earthy, heavily roasted malt, coffee, bittersweet chocolate and smidges of cola and licorice. It had a tangy sweetness and finished mildly acidic with a pleasant hop bitterness and a whisper of tobacco. Good stuff! Let this one warm up a bit.
Medium bodied with a full, creamy and chewy mouthfeel. Good amount of carbonation.
Excellent beer and supreme drinkability!

Photo of Naerhu
4.6/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Deep opaque balck body with a tight rich tan head.

Roasted malt dominates the aroma with vanilla coming in strong. I am get fruit, but not anything more specific.

Relatively mild, with medium body. Chocolate covered espresso beans. Charcoal and kampoyaku (chinese traditional medicine). The berry that was on the nose is no longer apparent.

This is slick and the super fine bubbles make this a masterpiece.

Photo of beergeek279
4.17/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

2001 vintage, served in a 500 mL bottle, into a pint glass. The color is nearly black, with a bubbly beige head. The smell is a chocolatey roastiness. The taste is very chocolate sweet, with just the slightest bit of hops to it. Mouthfeel seems a bit thin. As for drinkability, could have real sessionability and no offputting flavors, so could have quite a few of these.

Well, I don't know if I'd consider this a Baltic porter, but it is solid. Though the mouthfeel is a tad thin, the flavor is quite good, with a rich chocolate to it. Quite good, and I'd love to try some of the other vintages.

Photo of mschofield
4.02/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Pours a dark brown/black, well carbonated with a one finger dark tan head that quickly dissipated.
Strong coffee aroma and taste, if it was a blind taste I'd pick it as a Coffee stout. Sweet malt pervades, with notes of raisin, chocolate, plum. Earty hop. Very similar in taste and aroma, more roasted quality in the taste.
Body was too thin, it should have been fuller for a Baltic Porter.

Photo of vladtheimpaler
4.78/5  rDev +16.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Had a perfectly treated and conditioned bottle. This was yummy. The conditioning of this beer is outstanding. Smooth Chocolate/Coffee malt flavor. Hops have been reduced to the background (through conditioning). Aroma has that beautiful, fruity, toffee, oxidized note that makes every sip enjoyable. This beer stands out and is worth seeking. I must warn everyone about mistreated bottles, though...

Photo of Wildman
4.07/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This beer poured a deep amber, almost black color and formed a nice light tan bubbly head that left trace lace as it subsided. An aroma of malt, coffee, and caramel. A flavor of malt, coffee and a touch of chocolate. The body was fairly light for the style and the finish was slightly bitter. Not a bad porter for the style.

Photo of CRJMellor
4.22/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours black with red highlights, thin light tan head with very minor lace.
Aroma of chocolate, brown sugar, roasted malt, some butterscotch, peat and a wheat bread note.
Flavor of heavy chocolate, some smoky roasted malt and a yeasty quality and very minor herbal bitterness.
Mouthfeel is semi-sweet moving to a very sweet and somewhat vinous middle that is cut short by a relatively tasteless bitterness.
Drinkability is very high. Probably defines the style as well as any beer.

Photo of NJpadreFan
3.95/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

D. Carnegie & Co. Argang 2001

My first Swedish beer!

appearance- Dark red/ black with a nice creamy tan head.

smell- Coffee!

taste- smooth coffee and a light chocolate flavor.

mouthfeel- a hint of alcohol and a slight bitterness.

overall- a nice porter that goes down well. Simple review- beer wasn't too complex.

Photo of jahred
4.21/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Tried this at the Feb. Goose Island "Beer Academy."

Pours a dark black color with a medium white head. There's a slight, but very pleasant and medicinal coffee malt scent.

The taste, though, is quite strong and forward. A nice roasted malt taste up fromt, followed by thick, rich and creamy coffee flavors. The word tasty comes to mind. Perhaps the best description is that this is a coffee milk shake with caramel swirled in (and 5.5% ABV!)

As pointed out at the event, the beer is only 5.5% abv, but has a "best before" date of April 2010. Can a beer such as this age well? For so long? Only one way to find out...

Photo of merlin48
3.82/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2001 vintage with "best before 2010" on label. Pours an opaque, almost pitch black with a tan head that quickly drops into patchy and collar lacing. Aroma of burnt coffee, smoke, licorice, and a hint of chocolate. Mouthfeel is medium bodied, creamy, and has a mild peppery bite. Taste is similar to the nose, with burnt coffee, smokiness, licorice, and spicy, dry, bittering hops. Very drinkable, and a nice Porter, but nothing outstanding at this stage. I was surprised by the "best before" date being a several years down the road. This one will probably be much better in a couple of years.

Photo of RoyalT
3.77/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance – Very dark in color with a nice, tanned head that showed decent retention and left a little lacing.

Smell – This aroma is nice. There’s some good coffee and chocolate notes to go along with the classic roasted malts. I can also pick up small traces of cocoa, anise, molasses, and some kind of sugar (maybe pure cane).

Taste – The smaller notes from the nose came out bigger at the taste. The chocolate and anise were prominent, but the molasses all but disappeared. This is not a super-dark porter; it’s more of a lighter one in the classic sense.

Mouthfeel – This was medium-bodied. I thought the mouthfeel was the weak point of the porter. The flavors were kind of clumsy and could maybe benefit from cellaring.

Drinkability – This went great with my Stoned Bratwurst and sauerkraut.

Comments – I had the 2001 vintage. Even though it is going on three years old I would recommend cellaring this for another three. I’m not a big “cellaring” fan but I think the flavors here just need some more time to get to know each other.

Photo of aracauna
3.5/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The body is very dark reddish-brown with a head that starts to fizz but stops before dissipating, which it does, eventually. The aroma is light, mostly a bit of chocolate. The flavor is vinuous, a bit of raisin and chocolate followed by a faint bit of char.

Photo of Mitchster
4.82/5  rDev +17.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Pours out to a very dark brown with mahogany accents, near black. Forms a thin tan head with poor retention and sparse lacing despite a heavy handed pour. Carbonation is mild. Aroma is very nice, with suggestions of fruits, dates, prunes, chocolate, vanilla, coffee. Clean ferment. Mouthfeel is full and soft with a dense body and luxurious finish. Taste is wonderful...a capitulation of the aroma with the addition of tobacco, a suggestion of woody dryness towards the finish, and a brisk, clean twangy finish. There is a hint of metal towards the middle, but tends to disappear over time. There is a very nice roasted character with a hint of chalk in the mix. Alcohol is imperceptable, and there are absolutely no off-flavors. Bert Grant...eat your heart out. "Perfect Porter" my ass...

This is an amazing porter, besting many stouts. Very pleasantly surprised by this, and I would highly recommend it to my porter loving friends. The drinkability is amazing. I could easily put away 3 of these 17 oz bottles back without noticing. Complex, yet extremely satisfying without fatigue on the tastebuds. My last gulp was as good or better than the last. Wow.

Photo of drewbage
4.02/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Sampled from 16.9 fl oz brown bottle from the 2001 Vintage.

Beer is close to black, with enough transmittivity to allow ruby highlights. Head is down low and tan with a quickly disappiating head.

Aroma is dried cherries, raisins and the like and a caramel coffee tone to the finish.

The flavor starts with a good malt chew before being chased off by a blackstrap molasses and a spicy hop zing that lets the finish ride with a long coffee bite that lingers

Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 517 ratings.