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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

476 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 476
Reviews: 328
rAvg: 4.12
pDev: 10.92%
Wants: 47
Gots: 21 | FT: 2
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001)
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Photo of Suds
4.43/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

This is simply an wonderful beer. Thick, velvety, chewy and portraying a wide range of roast malt flavors.
Color is solid black. Not really an impressive head, but what there is does dissolve into whispy, lace-producing clumps.
The aroma really doesn't match up with the extraordinary taste. Slight smoky, burnt/roast grain aroma, but it's not an in-your-face smell. The flavors do, however, come on strong with the first sip.
Full, impressive mouthfeel.
There's a background of a nice-hop bitterness that doesn't quite match the sweet malt, but the do play off one another nicely.
The bottom line is that this is one very good beer.

Suds, May 11, 2003
Photo of jlervine
4.33/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2001 cintage. Pours a thick dark brown with red-amber hues on the edge of the glass. Has the smell of roasted malts and molasses. This is probably the third bottle of this vintage that I've had in as many months, and I've loved it every time. The taste is a smooth roasted malt with a balanced hop finish fading to a coffee-like aftertaste. This beer is a sipper that I could drink morning, noon, and night.

jlervine, Apr 28, 2003
Photo of brakspear
4.65/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

1998 Vintage...perhaps just a bit past its peak flavor.

This Baltic porter slides from its tiny 8.8 oz bottle with all kinds of dark ebony goodness...deep pitch in color --only the brightest light can penetrate...a very slight tan head forms but fades quickly like a morning fog.

The aroma is nothing short of inspired...deep rich roasted malt aromas rise to the fore with raisins and fruits far in the distance...wow.

The taste is complex, roasted malts, vinous peaks and valleys, and a slight tang. Ages well as the flavors seem to have both ripened and mellowed over time. Very easy to drink as well. A beer to be savored and enjoyed whilst dreaming of the finer things in life.

brakspear, Apr 24, 2003
Photo of mickeymac
4.63/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This is 2001 vintage. It comes it a bottle that looks like it means business. I can picture this thing sitting on a bar on the Barbary Coast with a crowd of drunken prospectors brawling over it. It pours a scary inky-black with a tan head that starts off like gangbusters but settles down a bit after sitting in the glass for a few minutes. The smell is just crazy complex, with hazelnut, roasted barley, prunes, and roadkill.

Topping out the roasty and ripe fruit flavors is a hint of mint and a slight medicinal taste. The mouthfeel is nice and chunky. The drinkability is good for the style; even so, it's not the type of beer you'll want to devote an entire night to drinking. I'm not sure exactly what it is about this beer, but it gave me an overwhelming urge go grab a sledgehammer out of the garage and starting smashing shit. I'm going to start looking for other vintages. Skol.

mickeymac, Apr 20, 2003
Photo of BeerBuilder
4.25/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours black with ruby highlights. It forms a thick, light brown head with excellent lacing. The aroma is roasty and chocolatey. It has a deep roasted malt flavor. It is expresso-like in flavor also. It is a full-bodied beer, which has a somewhat creamy texture. It was a very tasty porter; I would definitely sample this one again.

BeerBuilder, Apr 10, 2003
Photo of NeroFiddled
4.47/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2001. Pours a very deep mahogany brown with a reddish cast when held to the light; but appears black in the glass beneath a creamy light-tan head. The head holds fairly well at first but soon dissipates to just a thin collar and some whispy surface foam.The nose expresses a sweet vanilla-laced caramel maltiness and some light, yeasty fruitiness. The body is medium; and it combines with a fine, moderate carbonation to leave it creamy and smooth in the mouth. The flavor is bold; and displays a vanilla/butter/caramel maltiness up-front, and a bit of chocolate towards the swallow along with some earthy/herbal hop flavors and a dull bitterness. It finishes bready with some residual sugary maltiness (molasses, brown sugar, light milk chocolate) and a drying bitterness. Quite exceptional! A classic Baltic porter that's well worth trying.

NeroFiddled, Apr 02, 2003
Photo of BeerResearcher
4.1/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This oddly named Swedish Export is a very interesting Baltic-style Porter. Black Coffee in color with a heavy to medium malty body. The hop content is fairly high, possessing a raw hop bite. Dry and crisp and lightly smoky with a hint of caramel sweetness. Pleasing hop and lightly smoky aroma. This is a well-made, easy to drink porter with a nice beige head...speaking of which, I’d like to experience this dark Swede with a Swedish blonde on a cold winter’s eve!

BeerResearcher, Mar 25, 2003
Photo of cokes
4.4/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Condemned in 2001. No chance of salvation until April 2010.

The crimson blackness is ringed with a small brown foam.
Nose is ripped apart with winged plums, and malts singed with the fires of Hades.

Taste begins the descent:

At the First Gate, torturous black malts wail with a sizzling harsh sweetness.
The Second Gate beacons with undying Grapes wallowing in their Earthly sins.
Past the Third Gate, Roasted Barley screams for forgiveness.
The Forth Gate smolders with an unholy smokiness, strapped to its device of oaken, woody horror.
The Fifth Gate exibits chocolate malt contorted in an obscene manner, pleading for mercy, as the poker is jabbed to its ribs.
Gate #6 contains plums, too lustful in life to exist elsewhere.
Beyond the stone-hued Seventh Gate is a sulfurous surge of reduced coffee that emits fumes of pure decadence.
The buttery whimpering of diacetyl lie past the Eight Gate, Joined with an acidic bawl.
The final gate, Number 9, is a raisin-drenched screech of alcohol-drowned dark fruit pain and suffering.

The deliciousness of pure wickedness unfolds. But the malice is less full than expected.
Nevertheless, it is a vice that can be indulged en masse.

Truly devilish.

cokes, Mar 18, 2003
Photo of MJR
4.4/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

1998 Vintage.

Appearance: Pours an opaque black body with lots of huge bubbles pretending to be a head. The bubbles don't last long and I'm left with what appears to be a glass of oil...in other words, it looks yummy!

Smell: Has a complex aroma of coffee, chocolate, roasted grains, and malted milk balls. There's the faintest scent of green hops.

Taste: Fairly sweet with a lot going on. Like the smell, the flavor is quite complex with the attention being shared by burnt, roasted grains, rich chocolate, mollasses, coffee that's been sitting for a while, and malted milk balls...that's right, Whoppers! Interesting! Finishes with a slight hop flavor, not bitterness really, but a distinct 'green' flavor.

Mouthfeel: Well, the carbonation's mostly gone, but it's doesn't really feel flat. It's got a medium thickness body with an oily, wet mouthfeel.

Drinkability: Give me a newer bottle with all of it's full carbonation and I could drink this all night. This is a fantastic porter, but not so complex as to limit the drinker to one or two.

MJR, Feb 04, 2003
Photo of Rocko
4.78/5  rDev +16%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Vintage 2002:

Wow this is a real baby. :) Pours pitch black with a small brown head that fades away after a few seconds. It smells very malty with hints of coffee and dark chocolate, I think it has a really pleasant smell.

The taste is very complex, nice and pleasantly bitter, there is also a bit of coffee and burnt sugar in the background. The aftertaste is very long, but not as bitter as one would think. Thumbs up from me.

I think I will buy a few and let them mature!

Quote from the back label: "Carnegie Porter was created in 1836 and the taste is the same today" Anyone happen to have a 1836 vintage? ;))

Rocko, Feb 02, 2003
Photo of stegmakk
4.15/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2001 bottle
Color is DARK brown almost black. Head was a nice tan but dissapeared quickly. Smelled a little coffe flavor but it was too metallic to give it a higher rating. The taset was great. There wasn't much of the metal flavor. It is a nicely blended porter. Not too coffee like, but just enough. It had a smooth slightly thick feel. Definately a good porter. Definately worth getting again.

stegmakk, Jan 28, 2003
Photo of JoeyHotrod
4.1/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1997 bottle..... The beer poured to a dark brown almost black color with not much in the way of a head. There were hints of a good strong coffee as well as the chocolate you would expect in a nice porter. There was not much in the way of carbonation which is a good thing from my perspective.

Not my favorite porter and perhaps just a shade or two light, but overall a very nice beer to enjoy. Not easy to find from what I understand, but clearly worth the effort.

JoeyHotrod, Jan 01, 2003
Photo of JISurfer
4.47/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Damn! This beer totally rocks! The dude from the Vintage Cellar in Blacksburg told me that this beer is one of his best Porters, so I took his advice and gave it a shot. I had high expectations for it, and it totally blew those out of the water. This beer has a nice thick malty taste to it and finishes off with a chocolate flavor. Even my girlfriend, who loves to drink Natty(don't worry, I am working on her), totally digged this stuff. I totally recommend this beer to anyone who is looking for a change for the better.

JISurfer, Dec 25, 2002
Photo of Realale
4.18/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

1998 version, but purchased in 2002.

Deep reddish brown, with definite black overtones. No head at all - just little wisps of foam.

Nose is licorice, but the really good yeasty, bready kind of licorice. Supporting date and raisin notes as well.

Very malty on the palate. Lots of licorice again, but nice acidity and bitterness add complexity and keep the residual sweetness from becoming cloying. An interesting take on a Porter.

Realale, Dec 12, 2002
Photo of feloniousmonk
4.53/5  rDev +10%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A definitive ebony hue. Good, crackling tan head. As Fred Eckhart recommends, put this one to your ear and listen! Aroma is a blast of espresso, cocoa, anise and molasses. Rich and roasted, with loads of bitterness on the palate and a tenacious finish. Complex, if a bit gritty. Not a brew for novices or girly-men, this is stiff and substantial stuff. Label says best before August 2O1O, but who could wait that long? Unfortunately, the brewery has become bereft of their senses and is discontinuing this classic, so grab one if you can.

feloniousmonk, Dec 01, 2002
Photo of comat0se
4.13/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2001: Pours a nice dark ruby color with chocolate overtones with a smooth, tan head leaving behind a lacy cling. A whiff from the glass reveals big sweet, malty, dark fruity, raisin aromas. Big sweet malt flavor with a slight metallic twinge, some alcohol warming, medium fruitiness like plums or raisins, and a mild roasted malt contribution. A dry hops finish with some grain astringency keeps this beer under control. It has a smooth, medium-heavy body with medium carbonation, but has an almost syrupy consistency. This is a super malty porter... I didn't know they could be like this. Almost reminded me of some doppelbocks, but with some roast character added.

comat0se, Nov 12, 2002
Photo of yen157
4.22/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

2001: Black beer, only appears red nead the edges and bottom of the glass. Also, tan head goes away somewhat quickly. Nice toasted grain smell along with some caramel.
Hearty bodied beer, nice example of a heavy porter. Good use of dark malts. Charcoal burn grain flavor is present but very well intermingled with other tastes such as coffee and dark chocolate. Hops bitterness works closely with grain bitterness to keep beer from tasting sweet. Very smooth, creamy beer. Carbonation kept light so that it doesn't take attention away from this robust beer.

yen157, Nov 11, 2002
Photo of jackndan
4.4/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

D. Carnegie & Co. Stark Porter 2001 from Sweden: In a big 16.9 oz. Bottle. The label says that the best by date is April of 2010! This is clearly a beer made for cellaring, but I have no time to lose. This beer pours an inky black with ruby tints. Thick full head, with Belgian lace all the way down. Clean light aroma, vaguely like a good Columbian coffee. Creamy mouthfeel, with some carbonation. Initial taste is licorice, which leads to a dark rye/ pumpernickel, and molasses. Very well done, with several layers of tastes. Excellent.

jackndan, Jul 25, 2002
Photo of Bighuge
3.7/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

2001: This beer is a very dark ruby. Thin beige head disintegrates to nothing quickly. A coffee scent dominates with hints of mocha as well on the nose. Nice velvet like feel on the tongue. Smooth tastes of chocolate, cocoa and java. Very smooth porter. Very easy drinking. A nice faint bitterness. A solid porter in my book.

Bighuge, May 16, 2002
Photo of ORM1
3.98/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

2000: Deep black with a very good head. But... There is something I don't like. May be it's not enough deep in its' black. Caramel smell with a little touch of chocolate, not so vivid but very pleasant. What about taste? Well... taste is too hidden for porter. Very sweet, even much sweet. It tastes just like Nothern German schwarz-beers.
Too low abv and gravity for porter, but that's good indeed for drinkability. You can drink it much :)

And that's an only one Swedish porter I ever drank... Good beer.

ORM1, May 14, 2002
Photo of Jason
4.63/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Presentation: Short 8.82 oz brown bottle with the vintage date of 1998 on the label.

Appearance: Thin lace though it has neatly textured tiny bubbles that crop up every time you take a sip. Close to jet black, only holding it up to the light will it produce some ruby hues.

Smell: Big sugary molasses aroma with a figgy back, dark caramel all over though chocolaty enough to give off a suggestion of brownies. Faint acidity in the nose also.

Taste: Smooth low level of carbonation with a slick mouth feel and solid full to medium body. Roasted flavours are intense but simple with a bite of charcoal and sweetness around all. Flavours of mild espresso, molasses and dark chocolate engulf the taste buds. Vague signs of age show with a touch of wet paper, this seems to add more good than harm and enhances the rich roasted flavours. From the charcoal flavours are trace woody and vanilla notes as well as a deep earthiness. Vague and lost acidic twang barely makes a dent in the threshold of flavour. Fruitiness is hidden for the most part but glimpses of burnt raisins and prune come to mind. Stays sweet even through the finish and there the alcohol is fairly noticed.

Notes: After four years it has held up very well with little signs of damage. Oxidation is minimal and the acidic twang is far out of reach to be a nuance. Makes you wonder what another year or more will bring to this brew.
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1997: Nearly jet black with a very thin bubbly lace that keeps on coming back after each sip. Smell of dark bread similar to pumpernickel, good amount of sweetness in the nose to soften the roasted aroma. Mild charcoal with woody and bready flavours that want to come in at the same time, very low carbonation that lets the creaminess flow first then a quick yet small smoothness rolls in. Vague acidic twang that is very passive, malt flavours pass back and forth between roasted and bready. Hops are but a dream and seem to be the most faded trait this brew has, thankfully the roasted grain picks up a little of the slack. Hard to tell this brew is on it fifth year, malt is still very fresh on the palate.

Jason, Apr 26, 2002
Photo of marc77
2.85/5  rDev -30.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

1998: The head formation is poor, and a only a thin rim of bubbles coats the inside of the glass. Like many porters, a deep garnet hue is noticeable when held up to light. The slightly sweetish, dark caramel malt and mocha - like chocolate malt is quite pleasant, but could be more assertive. Fairly thinly bodied for a porter, and there is nothing outstanding in the malt profile. A fairly one dimensional black patent and chocolate malt bitterness dominates the flavor, thus making this beer a bit unexciting. Hop bitterness has faded and is lost amongst the roasted grain bitterness. The finish is quite dry and too clean. Perhaps this beer has aged poorly, since the complex malt and hop character that comprises a good porter was sorely lacking in this brew. Nothing ventured nothing gained, I guess.

marc77, Apr 07, 2002
Photo of WilliamPhilaPa
4.83/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

(Argang 2000) Wow! This stuff is great! Starts by pouring a very dark black, with a very yummy looking dark tan head. The head sticks around for a good time also, the body is a medium to light- heavy with a very nice smooth mouthfeel. Very nice robust coffee notes and light caramel flavor, with just enough sweetness ( not over done ) to really enjoy this brew! This stuff is great to the last drop! Ends with a nice long finish!Overall a excellent Porter! I need more!

WilliamPhilaPa, Apr 06, 2002
Photo of rastaman
3.53/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

1998: A good porter, but perhaps a little sweet or something, still i can't believe Pripps brew this, that brewery really sucks.

rastaman, Feb 17, 2002
Photo of steorn
4.45/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1998: baltic porters are a style all their own.this one is one of the finest.try saving a bottle or two for acouple of years. they age beautifully.

steorn, Jan 09, 2002
Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 476 ratings.