Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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92
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336 Reviews
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Reviews: 336
Hads: 529
rAvg: 4.13
pDev: 10.17%
Wants: 52
Gots: 30 | FT: 2
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Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".
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Photo of Gmann
3.18/5  rDev -23%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark brown color with a frothy khaki colored head that settled into a solid ring.

The aroma is of a lightly bready malt, milky and grainy. Some sterile roast notes and an overall tin like scent.

The malt is mostly grainy with a slight roast edge. Subtle metallic notes with an interesting lemon note. Some light caramel and toffee sweetness. Overall, a bit thin for a baltic porter.

The feel is light, though not watery, with some prickly carbonation. Grainy sweet on the palate with not much of a bitter offset. Drinks easy I guess.

Not super impressed with this beer. Basically a notch or two above a dark Euro lager. Definitely not a baltic porter in my eyes. (674 characters)

Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.02/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

2004 vintage with the Stark-Porter label.

Pours an almost opaque super dark crimson brown with a 1 inch foamy dark khaki head that settles to a thin cap. Small dots of lace slowly drip into the remaining beer on the drink down. Smell is of dark malt, dark fruit, dark sugar, vanilla, and some earthy tobacco-like aromas. Taste is of dark malt, dark dried fruit (prune/raisin), leather, smoke, tobacco, and slight cocoa nibs. There is a light roasty bitterness on the palate after each sip. This beer has a low level of carbonation with a medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good baltic porter and a rare treat that is around 8 years old. I am glad I picked one of these up to try. (689 characters)

Photo of EricCioe
4.14/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This pours a very deep brown with a sandy head that dies down but is easily stirred back up with agitation. On the nose there is licorice, vanilla, leather, tobacco, smoke and raisins. There is a whole lot going on in the nose on this one. In the mouth the licorice mixes with darker fruits that were hidden on the nose. The vanilla is still present but it's mostly through the nose. There is a whole lot going on here, too. The body is medium with relatively lower carbonation and a long finish, especially given the low abv.

Overall, this is one of the most complex brews I've ever had. There are so many flavors going on in both the nose and in the mouth. I had a great evening listening to Jaga Jazzist Live at the Cosmopolite and sipping on a glass of this stuff. It's not too often that I say I'm going to have to revisit a brew to see if I can figure it out more, but this is one of those. (898 characters)

Photo of Brushkanna
5/5  rDev +21.1%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

WOW that’s a great beer. We had a Porter & Stout beer tasting over New Years Eve and of the 12 beers we tried this was hands down #1. Some of the beers we had were bitter, or had chocolate and coffee flavors, too much going on in some of them. Carnegie Porter had the straight-up porter style that I look for, full flavored, smooth with a short creamy head, World Class. This is the first beer I felt compelled to review. (423 characters)

Photo of Reaper16
4.09/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

500mL bottle -- 2009 vintage -- served into a pint glass (thanks, bar)

Pours a dark brown color, as expected, with hints of like a grape Robitussin or something. But only in terms of color; cough syrup has a thicker body that this beer. It looks thin for the style. About one finger of head the color of sun-bleached sand forms.

This baltic porter may be on the lightest spectrum of the style, but it is not lacking at all for aroma. It has a huge nose full of raisins, dates, brown sugar, plum skin, and black cherry cola. It's a very lovely aroma.

While the aroma didn't give away this beer's sub-6% ABV, the taste does. It tastes somewhat muted relative to the Okocims or Olfabrikkens of the baltic porter world. It tastes like Baltic Porter Lite, though that description sounds more favorable in my head than it probably sounds in yours as you read this. I still think this a good beer; there's a place for beer's that try to delivery imperial-strength flavor in a more sessionable form.

The mouthfeel is the worst part of this beer by far. It's so thin, even for the style, that it comes across as watery. Like carbonated water, because the carbonation is very assertive here.

Overall, this doesn't blow me away, but it is far better than any 5.50% ABV attempt at a Blaltic Porter. In fact, I'm very impressed by the amount of aroma and flavor are in a beer this light. (1,381 characters)

Photo of Justin23060
3.75/5  rDev -9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A - Dark Cola black with red highlights. Small light beige head dissipated but laced the edge.

S - Caramel and chocolate.

T - Toffee, a little smoke. Pretty balance between sweet and dry from beginning to end. Not much of a linger.

M - Would have liked a little more carbonation. Some what thin.

O - I was really looking forward to this based on its reviews and recommendations. It's pretty solid, but not my A+ Baltic porter. I'd drink it if offered, but probably won't seek it out. (490 characters)

Photo of dlello2
3.6/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A - Dark dark black/brown with burnt red/orange tinges. Nice finger of off-white head dissipate quickly. Ring of the stuff hangs on with large bubbles making islands.

S - Quite subtle with coffee and toffee notes. A roasted chocolate smell also appears. Yep, more chocolate as I'm smelling it.

T - Not super complex but a damn-well balanced porter. Not as thick as I'd have thought it to be. Super easy drinking. Sad that the hops are not coming through at all (maybe at the end). The larger the sip the tastier. Something in the beginning of the aftertaste that I don't like... maybe a salty/breadiness, but otherwise it's really good.

O - Really nice porter. For what it was supposed to be it did quite well. (713 characters)

Photo of LeoPanna
4.72/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

11.2oz bottle purchased at Joe Canal's in Woodbrige, NJ... on sale for 3.99 a bottle.... poured into a Unibruoe tulip.

A: Pitch black, smooth pour... little head, white, but a lot of bubbles stickin on the glass. looks beautiful.

S: Sooo rich... Molasses, malts, raisins, plums, dates, bright wood, a little like Coca-Cola, Dr. Pepper... a little cinnamon...reminds me of a Puerto Rican drink called Malta India... don't smell the alcohol. I can't stop smelling. I'm addicted...6 minutes later. It reminds me of the Celebrator Dopplebock or an Eisbock. I'm ready to try.

T. mmmm... deep and dark malts right away. Raisins, grapes and dates in the middle... malt and wood essence, alcohol lingering on the back of the tongue...the aftertaste swells on the tongue, a slow tremolo between the malts, dark fruits and alcohol...after a few sips, i get some vanilla tones, even a light vegetable bitterness like biting into a sweet onion seasoned w pepper... as it warms, the raisin flavor emerges along. I want to be drinking this on a boat under the moon.

M. medium carbonation... smooth as hell.. goes down well. exactly what you expect from a baltic porter... even with the 5% ABV i can feel the warmth in my chest..

O. The entire experience is perfect. From the price, the cool bottle, to the pour and the smell. The taste is a journey but subtle enough to drink more than one. I'm not eating anything but I can pair this with all kinds of foods, some grilled lamb with asparagus, for dessert some raisin pudding cake maybe a vanilla ice cream. I'm going to age my other bottle and let those flavors grow. (1,610 characters)

Photo of chicagoabbot
4.7/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

I was pretty close to giving this one a 5 on taste too...alas, it's only about four layers of flavor deep. Damn, this is a great porter. Deep rich color out of the bottle and into the glass. 2010 vintage. Baltic baby. Smell is super complex. There's a lot going on here and I inhale deeply with every sip. Lots of depth on the tongue. Malty. Well balanced. I almost should change that to a 5 on taste. This is a perfect Baltic porter. Mouthfeel is energetic but silky. Highly recommended. (488 characters)

Photo of johnnnniee
4.05/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle from 2010 sampled 9/30/2011
Pours the darkest of brown with faint ruby highlights when held to light. A good sized creamy off white head dissipates rather quickly, but leaves moderate lace in its wake. Smells of caramelized sugar and dark pitted fruit mostly but has hints of coffee and chocolate on the outer fringes. This one smells like a fine dopplebock honestly. Taste is moderately fruity with hints of chocolate and ash. Deep burnt sugars mix with dark fruit and a little bit of coffee. Medium body with a light level of carbonation and a creamy smooth mouthfeel. This is a very tasty beer. It really straddles the line between porter and dopplebock for me though. Maybe one day I can try a fresher example. (721 characters)

Photo of LeathChuinn
4.33/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - Poured from 330ml 'Argang 2010 Klass III' bottle into half pint pils glass. Deep reddish brown in colour when held to light. Dark brown otherwise with a smooth cream colored 2 finger head when initially poured. Good head retention with impressive lacing that ringed the glass on every sip.

S - Roasted barley, chocolate.

T - Roasted malts mostly, some sweetness, milk chocolate, licorice and coffee liqueur flavours also.
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M - Smooth, creamy feel, medium bodied with mild carbonation that works quite nicely with this beer.

O - Very good porter. Easily drinkable. Charming traditional look beer label. (610 characters)

Photo of gfreed
4.2/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

As Baltic porters go, this hardly qualifies: it lacks the weight, the density, the burn and the booze. As a straight porter, however, it's quite good. There's just enough vanilla, citrus and bubbly sting to make it a happy little beer. It's a tad smoky without being overly charred, and for once we have a porter that doesn't reek of coffee. You'll be able to have more than one (bring your wallet) and *still* be able to operate a power tool with a spinning blade. Maybe. (472 characters)

Photo of damndirtyape
4.42/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle (2010 date) poured into a tulip glass.

Appearance: Black beer with persistent 1/8" tan head. When held up to the light some light gets around at the edges revealing a dark cola brown color. Little islands and delicate strands of lacing noted. Very nice looking beer.

Smell: With a swirl, cocoa liquor with a nice malt backbone, along with hints of coffee, burnt sugar, and smoke thrown in. Great smelling and very appealing beer. Once the head dies down a bit, fainter chocolate with some fruity (grape?) notes.

Taste: Cream, smooth toasted malt, a hint of chocolate, and a bitter finish that a definite smoky tone to it that lingers a bit after the swallow. Very tasty and well balanced.

Mouthfeel: Good carbonation, a little bit sticky but still very smooth.

Overall / Drinkability: Outstanding beer. Wonderful taste and if this truly is the same recipe as was brewed in 1836, then this is a beer recipe of perfection for the ages. If not, well it's still quite good and I could easily have another one or two. Very good by itself and would be good with a meal as well. I had this by itself but I could easily see having this with beef or a dessert. (1,165 characters)

Photo of Stinkypuss
4.03/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Carnegie porter 5.5 Porter 2010 edition. They brew another, lighter version as well.

Pours brown with ruby highlights. A nice khaki colored head forms and has staying power. Lacing is abundant. Aroma of deeply roasted malts, bready, and a touch of sea salt. Develops of robust malty flavor, with just a faint notion of smoke used to dry the malts. There is a complimentary flavor of a mild tea like hop balance. Mildly fruity ale yeast is apparent in the finish as well as a
Iight herbal bitterness. Mouthfeel is smooth, delicate carbonation and very easy to drink. In fact, it took me longer to enter this than to drink it. A fine Sweedish export. (650 characters)

Photo of Duff27
4.05/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2006 vintage.

Thin tan head atop a black/brown beer. Some head retention, no lacing.

Roasted malt, chocolate.

Dark malts. Slight metalic taste due to age. Slight cherry flavor came out as it warm, I like that a lot.

Medium mouthfeel, medium carbonation.

Enjoyed it, held up amazingly for how old/low ABV it was. Heard it was a relatively cheap one to aquire, will be on the lookout for older vintages in the future. (420 characters)

Photo of AleWatcher
4.2/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

This is a 2004 vintage, served in an imperial pint.

Dark blackish brown with a 1 finger tan head. No lacing, but decent retention.
Smells of rich, thick malt with notes of caramel, toffee, and chocolate.
The beer tastes just as I'd expect- roasty roasty malts with hints of cocoa and coffee. An acrid smoke character is warmly inviting.

The body is hefty, but creamy and sturdy. Good low carbonation level is spot on.

Overall-- this is nice. I'll be grabbing some more of this to sample at various stages of aging. (522 characters)

Photo of rudzud
4/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2010 bottle. Picked up on a whim from Julio's Liquors. Poured into my Duvel tulip.

A - Pours a deep dark almost black hue with a creamy almost two finger mocha head that fades to leave minimal side lacing but nice clouding.

S - Not bad aromas here. Predominantly roast malts and chocolate notes. Slight metalic aromas though.

T - Pretty good flavours. More subtle than usual, good deep rich roasted malts and light chocolate. Very smooth.

M - Quite smooth and creamy with just a little bit of carbonation. Feels slightly thin though.

O - Overall, this isnt a bad baltic porter. I wouldn't buy it again though as there are some great represenations of this style elsewhere. (677 characters)

Photo of Knapp85
4/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Ordered a bottle of this at the Allentown Brew Works once. I was shocked to see how much they were charging for this brew. I could have found it cheaper and which I would have let it in their cooler. Anyway, The beer poured out as a nice looking rich black color. The head was big and strong looking at first but settled down to just a thin tan creamy looking film over top of the brew. The lacing was light on the glass. The smell was full of roasted malts and just some minimal fruit elements shining through. The taste of the beer has a bold burnt bitterness up front, and some dark fruit sweetness which faded into a dark chocolate dry aftertaste. The mouthfeel of the beer had a decent thickness to it. Overall it was way too expensive at $15 a bottle. Should have been half that I think. But other than the price it was pretty good. (838 characters)

Photo of kojevergas
3.29/5  rDev -20.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle into Westlveteren goblet in Stockholm, Sweden. Reviewed live.

A: One finger head of nice cream lacing, good thickness, and fair to bad retention. Colour is a solid black.

Sm: Raspberry fruit ester hops, cream, caramelized malt, and I assume barley. Me nose is broken; sorry lads.

T: Fruit estery body alongside nice cream, slight chocolate, and restrained caramelized malt. Complex enough. Built and balanced well, just not bold or inspired.

Mf: Smooth and wet, with adequate but not overdone coarseness and thickness. There is some strange dryness on the finish that isn't really welcome considering the dying ester flavour that accompanies it.

Dr: Average range ABV, very drinkable, and of a high price. The quality is nothing special. (754 characters)

Photo of rhoadsrage
4.1/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a nonic)

A- This beer pours a dense black body with no sign of carbonation or light getting through. There is a thick bubbly light tan head that last for a good bit.

S- The aroma of cream and dark roasted malt is well blended with some Munich malt qualities about it.

T- The soft black malt has a coffee hint without the bitterness and a smooth mellow tang to it. There is a mineral water taste to it as the beer warms but it is pleasant. The finish has a touch of roasted malt with a faint smoke quality to it.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a slightly slippery texture and no alcohol heat noticed.

O- The well-blended flavors of dark malt are smooth and very easy to drink but still have some nice depth. There were some grain and pot caramel qualities that are hard to describe in there. It is a great "recreation" of a historic beer and a lovely session beer. (894 characters)

Photo of Boto
4.03/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

500ml bottle: Mine was marked "ARGANG 2006", although I bought it recently. This one pours an inky very dark brown color. Mine had about no head on it whatsoever. A little bit of a sweeter aroma. Caramel and toffee, with just a faint roastiness in there also. A bit of sweetness in the taste. Coffee, chocolate, caramel, toffee and a hint of roastiness dominate the taste. A touch of slickness on the tongue. Nice! (414 characters)

Photo of notchucknorris
4/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a slightly thin looking black color with about a 1/2 in tan head.

S: I picked up a ton of bitter coffee at first, but it mellowed as the beer warmed a bit. Chocolate and some roasted malt as well.

T: Much sweeter than I expected. Espresso, chocolate, chocolate cake, roasted malt and maybe a touch of hops towards the finish. Pretty tasty. Mouthfeel is slightly thin but has a nice creamy feel. (405 characters)

Photo of Rapax
4.05/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark reddish brown, almost black. Foam does not stay for long.

The smell is dark, sweet caramel. No detectable hop character, almost no fruitiness and very little of the roasted notes I would expect to find.

Tasting it, the roasted character that was so lacking in the smell finally arrive. And it is accompanied by even more caramel sweetness, and clear hints of liqorice. Bitterness is low from the start but grows to and appropriate level. A subtle hint of tobacco finishes.

Mouthfeel is a little on the thin side, for the type, but it works.

Overall a good rather than excellent beer. A little extra mouthfeel and definitely more complexity would have promoted it to great. Although I have never tasted the old top fermented version I can safely say that this beer would be ages better as a top fermented one. (817 characters)

Photo of secondtooth
3.53/5  rDev -14.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Black as night, with a thick head of tan foam. Thin but attractive lace.

Nose says caramel and toffee.

Tasting reveals a really sweet porter. I get more toffee, caramel, and a little chocolate. Maybe this bottle was stored too long (or in improper conditions), but the bottle says best by 2016! Nonetheless, it seems something's off here.

Anyhow, I can envision a fresher bottle being a fine session porter, but this bottle didn't cut it. (442 characters)

Photo of plfahey
4.37/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle poured into a tulip glass.

Appearance-Deep brown-black with nice ruby highlights and brilliant clarith. Moderate off-mocha head has pretty good retention and leaves some nice lacing.

Aroma-Bready, caramel, chocolatey, molasses, bread pudding, and lightly roasty, with hints of dark fruit. Sweet, with low to no hops. Very nice malt complexity on the aroma.

Flavor-Bread and chocolate with flavors of plum, prune, and grape. On the mid-palate, some sweet caramel and molasses shows through. Fades to a light roast flavor with some chocolate, toast, and fruits. Rather sweet, but dries out a bit as the roast asserts itself.

Mouthfeel-Medium to medium full body, with moderately low carbonation and a very smooth, creamy mouthfeel.

A very solid baltic porter, if on the low end of the alcohol spectrum. The flavor and aroma are quite good, though I do find it to be a little bit sweet for my taste. Still, fantastic. (934 characters)

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