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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

481 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 481
Reviews: 328
rAvg: 4.12
pDev: 10.92%
Wants: 48
Gots: 23 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB visit their website
Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001)
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Photo of MikeCactusGordon
4/5  rDev -2.9%

MikeCactusGordon, Feb 02, 2014
Photo of osuskin
2.75/5  rDev -33.3%

osuskin, Jan 30, 2014
Photo of biegaman
3.56/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Carnegie Porter looks like a liquid raspberry truffle: it's a melted chocolate brown colour for the most part but has remnants of ruby throughout. All the colour is concealed within its dark exterior and only illuminated when held right up against the light. Its head is scattered but manages to coat most of the surface and some parts of the glass.

Truthfully, there isn't much to distinguish Carnegie Porter. The aroma has only entry-level amounts of chocolate and roasted malt, not really enough even to emulate coffee or licorice flavours. There's traces of dark fruits - whether the influence of malt, yeast, or alcohol who knows - but they, too, make only a minimal contribution.

Those unaccustomed to dark beers will find this surprisingly, pleasantly easy to drink; those expecting a true Scandinavian Baltic Porter will be entirely disappointed. This has neither an especially roasted nor hopped presence, with virtually no coffee, chocolate, caramel, toffee, nutty, or molasses complexity and only the most brief taste of dark fruits. Boring.

The label on the back states that "storage helps the flavour mature and helps enhance its harmony"; there's no production or best before date on this bottle but I doubt it's all that fresh. Already the beer tastes oxidized and considerably thinned out. Given this thin a malt bill - and especially at a mild 5.5% - I'd ignore the brewery's recommendations and drink it now.

Carnegie Porter is a dark beer likely to appeal to those most afraid of them; I should have expected such a watered-down product from Carlsberg. There's nothing bold or intimating about this supposed Baltic Porter - it's as much a caricature as the Swedish chef from the Muppets. Scandinavians do much bolder (and better) than this. Don't waste your time on it.

biegaman, Jan 23, 2014
Photo of M1A2
4/5  rDev -2.9%

M1A2, Jan 18, 2014
Photo of BigOldOaf
3.25/5  rDev -21.1%

BigOldOaf, Jan 15, 2014
Photo of bigred89
4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

bigred89, Jan 05, 2014
Photo of kodt
4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

kodt, Jan 04, 2014
Photo of DrinkSlurm
3.75/5  rDev -9%

DrinkSlurm, Dec 28, 2013
Photo of Saksis
5/5  rDev +21.4%

Saksis, Dec 27, 2013
Photo of Proclarush
4/5  rDev -2.9%

Proclarush, Dec 22, 2013
Photo of oldedog
4/5  rDev -2.9%

oldedog, Nov 27, 2013
Photo of hockeypuck
4/5  rDev -2.9%

hockeypuck, Nov 27, 2013
Photo of pipinmalikonj
3.75/5  rDev -9%

pipinmalikonj, Nov 20, 2013
Photo of jaydoc
4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

jaydoc, Nov 13, 2013
Photo of BeerFMAndy
3.51/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

11.2 oz bottle poured into a snifter.
5.5% ABV, "Årgång 2013"

A - Clarity is hard to come by in this black beer, but when held to the light, ruby mahogany shines through. The loose, soapy head disappears to clusters of spore-like bubbles sporadically dotted around the surface of the beer and on the glass.

S - Burnt cheap coffee, burnt toast, and oak give the aroma a charred, metallic scent that finally opens up as it warms up, allowing some dark fruit and fig nuances and a touch of mocha in on the finish.

T - The charred profile continues into the flavor with tons of black roasted malts imparting earthiness, burnt toast, peppery notes, and thin, dry cocoa.

M - Thin-bodied, this light porter is crisp and clean like a lager but without any malt sweetness or body leaving this reviewer wanting more.

O - Roasted and bitter with out backbone, this light (in every sense of the word) Baltic Porter has flimsy, lopsided flavor and the makings of a nice Baltic but little body to back it up.

BeerFMAndy, Nov 07, 2013
Photo of Kuongming
3.75/5  rDev -9%

Kuongming, Nov 06, 2013
Photo of drop6301
4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

drop6301, Oct 31, 2013
Photo of ERRL710
4.5/5  rDev +9.2%

ERRL710, Oct 20, 2013
Photo of rixcat
4.03/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

I went into my local well-stocked beer store and cruised for eye-candy as neither my memory nor my heart could come up with an otherwise specific reference. I saw the label, the color, the unique bottle shape and I was at the register faster than I could change my mind. I came home, started heating up the kitchen cooking and anticipating what my mind was computing my heart's eye's whim came up with at the beer shop and I could stand it no longer. I popped my stellar bottled "firmament" anxiously pouring it into a handy pint glass to find a most satisfying cooking companion to prepare my palate for the delicious spicy peppers and pasta meal I was preparing. Round, brown, sweet, and smooth. A lucky privileged guy am I. Some of the elements I find in this drink I also look for in my morning espresso, my other main hobby. This is now a permanent inclusion to my short go-to list, awesome everytime brew.

rixcat, Oct 05, 2013
Photo of MickeyMonk
4.5/5  rDev +9.2%

MickeyMonk, Oct 02, 2013
Photo of bennetj17
4.33/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Black appearance, but not very dense or thick. You can see through the edges a bit in the light. The head is thin, with a tan foam that settles leaving a pencil thin ring. The nose has a faint roastiness, with suggestions of caramel and toffee.

The flavor balances nicely between toffee sweetness and roasted chocolate malts. I'm getting a bit of vanilla as well, and the finish leaves a keen bitterness on the tongue. The alcohol seems quite mild, and I'm trying to figure out how this qualifies as a Baltic Porter. The mouthfeel has just the right degree of thickness, with a sharp carbonation that holds up well.

Overall I'm glad this was recommended to me. It's a fairly robust porter with good depth of flavor and supreme drinkability. Definitely a nice change from the typical American style porters that are so common. Highly recommended.

bennetj17, Sep 26, 2013
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4/5  rDev -2.9%

DangerDawg, Sep 20, 2013
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4/5  rDev -2.9%

smartassboiler, Sep 12, 2013
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3/5  rDev -27.2%

Pumilio, Sep 10, 2013
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3.5/5  rDev -15%

Reappropriated, Aug 30, 2013
Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 481 ratings.