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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

458 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 458
Reviews: 325
rAvg: 4.12
pDev: 10.92%
Wants: 46
Gots: 19 | FT: 1
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001)
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vladtheimpaler

New Jersey

4.8/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Had a perfectly treated and conditioned bottle. This was yummy. The conditioning of this beer is outstanding. Smooth Chocolate/Coffee malt flavor. Hops have been reduced to the background (through conditioning). Aroma has that beautiful, fruity, toffee, oxidized note that makes every sip enjoyable. This beer stands out and is worth seeking. I must warn everyone about mistreated bottles, though...

Serving type: bottle

04-13-2004 20:12:17 | More by vladtheimpaler
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Rocko

Sweden

4.78/5  rDev +16%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Vintage 2002:

Wow this is a real baby. :) Pours pitch black with a small brown head that fades away after a few seconds. It smells very malty with hints of coffee and dark chocolate, I think it has a really pleasant smell.

The taste is very complex, nice and pleasantly bitter, there is also a bit of coffee and burnt sugar in the background. The aftertaste is very long, but not as bitter as one would think. Thumbs up from me.

I think I will buy a few and let them mature!

Quote from the back label: "Carnegie Porter was created in 1836 and the taste is the same today" Anyone happen to have a 1836 vintage? ;))

Serving type: bottle

02-02-2003 08:53:28 | More by Rocko
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BlitzShadow

Pennsylvania

4.75/5  rDev +15.3%

04-13-2013 20:57:48 | More by BlitzShadow
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gtown_operator


4.75/5  rDev +15.3%

03-14-2012 00:10:21 | More by gtown_operator
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pathman

Ohio

4.75/5  rDev +15.3%

07-15-2013 02:48:37 | More by pathman
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ktrillionaire

Florida

4.75/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Vintage 2004. Drank 2010.

Important: this Porter tastes like a proper Porter, and not like an alternate Stout. That is part of the reason why it is so dope. Many a purported Porter these days is suspiciously similar to a Stout. This one, as I said, differentiates itself definitively and definitely.

A – It pours as black as crude, with a moderate tan foam, and some decent lace action.

S – The aroma is not extravagant, but it is succinct and sublime, as is everything about this brew. It basically smells of dark malt, light oxidation and notes of cinnamon and smoke.

T – Again, it is not strongly flavored, but it is phenomenally smooth and balanced. I can't believe this beer is nearly six years old. The taste is full and richly malty, but not sweet, with subtle suggestions of dark fruit, plums, fig and a hint of roasty oxidation.

M – Very hearty. Exceptional.

D – Again, I am shocked that this brew is nearly six years old. At 5.5%, I wouldn't think it would keep so well. But it certainly does.

Serving type: bottle

03-08-2010 06:38:52 | More by ktrillionaire
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horndecker

New Jersey

4.75/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Vintage 2000. Curious to see if this is a bit long in the tooth, or if it has some longevity.

The color is inky black with the odd raspberry red highlight. A fine tan head flares and settles, leaving some sticky suds.

The smell is lots of chocolate, a faint grassy hop, a hint of cherries, all of it rather earthy and dark. Some espresso notes at the end.

The taste is chocolate, roasted malt, almost malted milk, slight burnt flavors, but not edgy, very smooth. There is a mild bitterness which tempers the chocolate center, and leads to a dusty cocoa aftertaste.

It seems to have a bit less fruit than younger bottles I have had. The coffee/espresso contribution seems to diminish as well. Still a great beer, and beautifully put together. Enjoyed for it's earthier character.

Serving type: bottle

07-09-2005 15:35:38 | More by horndecker
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Thomas_Picton

Florida

4.75/5  rDev +15.3%

01-12-2013 00:51:56 | More by Thomas_Picton
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nlmartin

Ohio

4.75/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer was purchased at Jungle Jims. The beer was served in a imperial pint glass. The beer was the 2004 vintage. The bottle says best by 2014. I just dont know if this is a realistic best by date.

Appearance: The beer pours a black coloration with ruby opaqueness to light. The beer had a thick creamed coffee colored head. The head resolved itself into a thin ring. Patches of lacing remain on my glass.

Smell: This beer is loaded with dark roasted and toasted malts. The beer produces wiffs of smokeyness. The beer is majorly loaded with dark fruityness perhaps figs, prunes and black currants. The beer has a bit of choco and coffee smells playing in the smell. I cant really pinpoint anything that is hoppy in origin but I dont care. This is a dam fine smelling beer.

Taste: The beer delivers on the smell big time. This is a malty beer treat. The beer never hits a cloying sweetness. I guess this is due to the roasted and smokey flavors.

Mouthfeel/ Drinkability: The beer is a bit lighter than full bodied. The beer is lightly carbonated. The beer has a bit of buttery creamyness to the mouth. The beer never becomes cloyingly sweet. I would have liked this beer to be a bit thicker on the mouthfeel. The beer is a very drinkable malt bomb. I wish the cost of this was a bit cheaper because it would be a regular in my beer line up.

Serving type: bottle

07-19-2006 01:44:11 | More by nlmartin
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TheDarkestYouveGot

California

4.75/5  rDev +15.3%

01-01-2013 19:57:54 | More by TheDarkestYouveGot
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afsdan

Colorado

4.75/5  rDev +15.3%

03-23-2014 14:12:59 | More by afsdan
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jwc215

Wisconsin

4.72/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This was the 2004 Vintage.
Poured black with ruby highlights around the edges when held up to the light. The thin tan head soon became a bubbly, well-retained lacing.
The smell was reminiscent of that of robust coffee.
The taste had smoky, charcoal-like characteristics. It had the flavors of rich coffee and bitter chocolate.
The silky, smooth mouthfeel ended with a bitter-sweet aftertaste. There was a very subtle hint of an alcohol finish.
The smooth, delicious, rich taste, along with a low abv for this style, makes this an enjoyably drinkable "session" Baltic Porter.

Serving type: bottle

04-13-2006 22:38:57 | More by jwc215
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echdk3

Missouri

4.72/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 1pt, 9oz bottle into a mug, 2004 vintage

A_Gorgeous dark black color with caramel color one centimeter head with bubbles on top surface. Really a beautiful beer, and leaves a nice slight lace

S_Big time vinegar, molasses. Burnt toast and coffee, a very rich and complex aroma complete with a slight bit of very dark bittersweet chocolate bar

T_Saliva kicks in on the pallet pretty quickly once this brew hits. Primary flavor is dark Italian burnt coffee also with some of that same white vinegar from the aroma

M_Very chewy and lightly carbonated, feels like chewy young goude cheese, absolutely gorgeous

D_Really nice dark roast italian coffee aftertaste is present but absolutely unintrusive. The alcohol is hidden very well. I really could drink many of these, very very nice

I am rating this beer very higly. It is easily one of the best porters I've ever had - in all five categories. Please, please pick this beer up and enjoy all of its subtleties slowly and fully

Serving type: bottle

11-30-2008 02:23:46 | More by echdk3
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Wonka

Maryland

4.72/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

5,5%Alc/Vol.
1 Pint. 9 Fl. Oz.
2004

I had one at Ludwig’s Garten in Philly a few weeks back and I had to come back for a review after I found it locally.

Appearance – spot on color with the black core and the light barely sneaking by at the fringes; monumental, frothy mocha head that holds long; lace is respectable, but it could be better-bringing in down from perfect

Smell – chocolate, molasses, some vanilla and dark fruit; the least exciting portion of the package but I still almost stamped it a 4.5

Taste – big malts; molasses and dark chocolate straight from the Whitman’s Sampler; coffee; vanilla comes through which was a certain pleasantry; bitterness comes through in close but its not overpowering

Mouthfeel – incredibly lush to the close where the desert sets in; carbonation is perfect

Drinkability – turnover is so easy, but that dryness sets it back just a bit

Undeniably, D. Carnegie’s porter is top shelf.

Serving type: bottle

04-26-2005 23:21:25 | More by Wonka
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popery

California

4.72/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2006 Vintage.

A: Very good looking beer, particularly for a porter with a few years on it. Black liquid with a nice foamy head and plenty of lacing.

S: Interesting smell. It's probably a bit weaker but more complex now than it was fresh. There are notes of sweet stone fruit and roasted malt. It's interesting, but it doesn't have the punch of some porters.

T: The taste is incredible at this point. It's sweet, roasty and fruity. The flavor is exceptionally well-melded and balanced. It's an excellent porter that has aged incredibly. I like that there's still good bitterness. The hops have mostly dropped out, but it's never cloying or overly sweet.

M: Creamy and smooth.

D: Extremely easy to drink. You can't make a beer taste this way without the aid of time. The feel and flavor are just right. This beer has surprised me greatly. I was expecting disappointment but received just the opposite.

3/20/2010 - Still awesome.

Serving type: bottle

04-05-2009 05:51:35 | More by popery
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LeoPanna

New York

4.7/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

11.2oz bottle purchased at Joe Canal's in Woodbrige, NJ... on sale for 3.99 a bottle.... poured into a Unibruoe tulip.

A: Pitch black, smooth pour... little head, white, but a lot of bubbles stickin on the glass. looks beautiful.

S: Sooo rich... Molasses, malts, raisins, plums, dates, bright wood, a little like Coca-Cola, Dr. Pepper... a little cinnamon...reminds me of a Puerto Rican drink called Malta India... don't smell the alcohol. I can't stop smelling. I'm addicted...6 minutes later. It reminds me of the Celebrator Dopplebock or an Eisbock. I'm ready to try.

T. mmmm... deep and dark malts right away. Raisins, grapes and dates in the middle... malt and wood essence, alcohol lingering on the back of the tongue...the aftertaste swells on the tongue, a slow tremolo between the malts, dark fruits and alcohol...after a few sips, i get some vanilla tones, even a light vegetable bitterness like biting into a sweet onion seasoned w pepper... as it warms, the raisin flavor emerges along. I want to be drinking this on a boat under the moon.

M. medium carbonation... smooth as hell.. goes down well. exactly what you expect from a baltic porter... even with the 5% ABV i can feel the warmth in my chest..

O. The entire experience is perfect. From the price, the cool bottle, to the pour and the smell. The taste is a journey but subtle enough to drink more than one. I'm not eating anything but I can pair this with all kinds of foods, some grilled lamb with asparagus, for dessert some raisin pudding cake maybe a vanilla ice cream. I'm going to age my other bottle and let those flavors grow.

Serving type: bottle

11-27-2011 20:40:59 | More by LeoPanna
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DESTRO

Nevada

4.7/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

whoa nelly. 16.9oz bottle, 2001 vintage. pours dark, pretty damn close to pitch black. lovely lace and lively carbonation. one whiff of this and its heaven, big sweet aromas of raisins and maple syrup, molasses and chocolates with some coffee undertones. nice roasted flavors kick things off without being overkill and then comes the sweet candies and raisins, a touch of vanilla and a bit smoke all coming courtesy of a slick smooth mouthfeel and you cant help but get stoked. also, the more it warms the more the alcohol kick becomes evident. almost too drinkable. "THE" porter as far as i am concerned. oh snaps!

paid $1.99 for a 16.9oz bottle.

Serving type: bottle

12-08-2003 23:13:07 | More by DESTRO
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chicagoabbot

Illinois

4.68/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

I was pretty close to giving this one a 5 on taste too...alas, it's only about four layers of flavor deep. Damn, this is a great porter. Deep rich color out of the bottle and into the glass. 2010 vintage. Baltic baby. Smell is super complex. There's a lot going on here and I inhale deeply with every sip. Lots of depth on the tongue. Malty. Well balanced. I almost should change that to a 5 on taste. This is a perfect Baltic porter. Mouthfeel is energetic but silky. Highly recommended.

Serving type: bottle

11-04-2011 23:46:18 | More by chicagoabbot
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farrago

New Jersey

4.68/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Blackish-brown with only a streak of orange to it, weak head upon the pour, what's there dissolves quickly. Energetic roasted nose of coffee bean, caramel, malt and prune, date fruit, furnishes orange peel, dough and cinnamon stick, doesn't really attack you, more of a marathon runner than sprinter. Light to medium-bodied, this makes it much easier to chug given the thicker flavors of caramel, toffee, coffee ice cream and orange peel. More white fruit than black fruit here. Nothing bitter about it, smooth and unrolls confidently across the tongue. Long finish, full possession of all its flavors. You could drink a considerable amount before noticing.

Serving type: bottle

01-17-2009 23:08:05 | More by farrago
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maddamish

Tennessee

4.68/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Best beer that i had on the honeymoon.

Ap: thick and creamy head that laces nicely. Dark opal in color.

Taste: Coffee and chocolate notes. Nice hop background with a nice bite to it. I found this beer very enjoyable and complex. You have to sit and contemplate a porter like this.

Mouth: Perfect. Thick and creamy in the mouth.

Smell: Caramel, malt with a slight alcohol presence.

Notes: I love porters and this one is at the top of my list. It doesn't get much better than this.

Serving type: bottle

06-29-2006 22:02:35 | More by maddamish
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xgabe

California

4.68/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

16.9 fl. oz. bottle labeled "ÅRGÅNG 2001"

Appearance: Pours thick and dark... reddish hues with hints of brown at the thinnest edges when tilted and seen against light. Very little head on this... as expected from most beers I've had cellared this long. The head is negligible, fading to few large bubbles which is very unappealing.

Smell: Ahh... things take a turn for the better. Chocolate mocha sweetness really dominates the smell. No hop presence. Given the style, very appealing and inviting.

Taste: WOW... I think this is the only time I've given a beer a "5" (correction: I've given one other beer a "5" in the taste category)... given the style of beer, this one really tells me "thanks for letting me mature". The malt and smoked characters are balanced out by mocha sweetness as detected in the smell.

Mouthfeel: Very full body, which is surprising considering my previous experiences with porters at this ABV. Very crisp and clean finish... the taste lingers in the palate for just about 10 seconds, letting you contemplate the complexities, before it disappears, beckoning you to take another sip.

Overall: Extremely enjoyable. I was expecting a dud. I was SO surprised by this one... I may have trouble waiting another year or two for the other bottles I have.

Serving type: bottle

08-28-2007 05:40:11 | More by xgabe
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brakspear

Wisconsin

4.65/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

1998 Vintage...perhaps just a bit past its peak flavor.

This Baltic porter slides from its tiny 8.8 oz bottle with all kinds of dark ebony goodness...deep pitch in color --only the brightest light can penetrate...a very slight tan head forms but fades quickly like a morning fog.

The aroma is nothing short of inspired...deep rich roasted malt aromas rise to the fore with raisins and fruits far in the distance...wow.

The taste is complex, roasted malts, vinous peaks and valleys, and a slight tang. Ages well as the flavors seem to have both ripened and mellowed over time. Very easy to drink as well. A beer to be savored and enjoyed whilst dreaming of the finer things in life.

Serving type: bottle

04-24-2003 16:20:52 | More by brakspear
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skynxnex

Virginia

4.65/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

2004 vintage. Says Best Before May 2014. So sampled a few years before then.

I poured the 25 oz bottle into an imperial pint glass. Brings up a decent tan head. The color is dark brown with ruby highlights--nearly black but not quite. Leaves little lacing.

The smell, wow. It's sweet with some fruit and maybe a touch of alcohol. The roasted malt rises up and plays in your nose.

It tastes just really balanced. Sweet creamy mouthfeel mixed with the bitterness of the coffee and roasted malt. A nice hop flavor lingers and there's good hint of the hop bitterness peaking through as well. The carbonation is mild and feels just right. I drank the 25 oz never feeling like it was at all too much. Goes really well with a nice dark chocolate as well. I was expecting this to be a good beer, but it goes beyond that. It doesn't amazing strong flavors but it just works.

Serving type: bottle

12-21-2005 01:43:02 | More by skynxnex
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51mmz0rz

New Jersey

4.65/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

2004 bottle, poured into a Hoegaarden glass, because that's all I had.

A: Pours with a frothy head, nice with a very dark red body when held up to the light.

S: Really inciting smell of sweet roastiness. Powerful and almost milky.

T: Same sweet roastiness, I love dark malt flavor, this is pretty complex on the finish.

M: Thinner than I would like, but good that it isn't too sweet. Carbonation might be a little high, not a deal killer though.

D: I have to give this a great rating for being pretty clean and refreshing for the style.

Baltic porters are my favorite style, and this is really delicious as I would expect. Lighter than most types of this style, but its a nice change.

Serving type: bottle

08-12-2008 02:22:34 | More by 51mmz0rz
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Jason

Massachusetts

4.63/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Presentation: Short 8.82 oz brown bottle with the vintage date of 1998 on the label.

Appearance: Thin lace though it has neatly textured tiny bubbles that crop up every time you take a sip. Close to jet black, only holding it up to the light will it produce some ruby hues.

Smell: Big sugary molasses aroma with a figgy back, dark caramel all over though chocolaty enough to give off a suggestion of brownies. Faint acidity in the nose also.

Taste: Smooth low level of carbonation with a slick mouth feel and solid full to medium body. Roasted flavours are intense but simple with a bite of charcoal and sweetness around all. Flavours of mild espresso, molasses and dark chocolate engulf the taste buds. Vague signs of age show with a touch of wet paper, this seems to add more good than harm and enhances the rich roasted flavours. From the charcoal flavours are trace woody and vanilla notes as well as a deep earthiness. Vague and lost acidic twang barely makes a dent in the threshold of flavour. Fruitiness is hidden for the most part but glimpses of burnt raisins and prune come to mind. Stays sweet even through the finish and there the alcohol is fairly noticed.

Notes: After four years it has held up very well with little signs of damage. Oxidation is minimal and the acidic twang is far out of reach to be a nuance. Makes you wonder what another year or more will bring to this brew.
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1997: Nearly jet black with a very thin bubbly lace that keeps on coming back after each sip. Smell of dark bread similar to pumpernickel, good amount of sweetness in the nose to soften the roasted aroma. Mild charcoal with woody and bready flavours that want to come in at the same time, very low carbonation that lets the creaminess flow first then a quick yet small smoothness rolls in. Vague acidic twang that is very passive, malt flavours pass back and forth between roasted and bready. Hops are but a dream and seem to be the most faded trait this brew has, thankfully the roasted grain picks up a little of the slack. Hard to tell this brew is on it fifth year, malt is still very fresh on the palate.

Serving type: bottle

04-26-2002 19:56:39 | More by Jason
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