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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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338 Reviews

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Reviews: 338
Hads: 543
Avg: 4.12
pDev: 13.59%
Wants: 59
Gots: 38 | FT: 3
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Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".
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Reviews: 338 | Hads: 543
Photo of MoreThanWine
2.68/5  rDev -35%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured a 1 tan head. To me this whole thing comes across as coffee just in slightly varying degrees - the appearance is black coffee, the bouquet is a weak iced coffee, and the flavor is a slightly sweet and mild coffee dessert - like maybe a cold coffee pie slice. Hey I still enjoyed it, there just wasn't a lot of complexity in my sample, and it cost me $8 for a 9 oz bottle so I was expecting more. Perhaps my sample sat on the shelf in Massachusetts too long and if I'd had a fresher sample in Sweden I'd be singing the praises?

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Photo of STEG
3.94/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Room temperature pour into a Mikasa widemouth glass

Creates a pitch black mass in my glass with a two finger fluffy dark khaki head extruding from the abyss that dissipates into layer of fine bubbles.

Some agitation reveals some interesting smells. Smells that can be described as dank darkfruits and muskiness and old beer, and a salty briney character as well with the expected coffee and chocolate flavors taking a backseat as mere undertones.

Taste reveals more of the same initially you're hit with a dank musky taste that has some dark fruits like plum and raisin in there as well. At the back are some light coffee notes

Mouthfeel is very light and watery surprising given the style but its still smooth. I was hoping for something a bit thicker and more chewy.

The taste causes this musky beer to take a hit in the drinkability category but it was worth a shot, I'd be willing to give it a second chance on tap.

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Photo of yeahnatenelson
4.13/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Årgång 2004

Thrown in as an extra by Jwiss22 - what a great guy!

Appearance -- Pours a dark brown, black in the glass, with an abundance of dark khaki head.

Smell -- Roast malt, raisin, figs, cocoa powder, malted milk, and red wine.

Taste -- Vibrant malt sweetness up front: raisin, cabernet grapes, and figs. There's also some pleasant smokey/roast flavors, like cocoa powder, char, molasses. There's a little bit of wet cardboard-y oxidation, but it hardly detracts from all of the benefits that aging has brought.

Mouthfeel -- Medium to full in body with mild carbonation. Smooth.

Drinkability -- If you told me a 5.5% beer would maintain this well over the course of six years, I wouldn't have believed you. Great stuff.

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Photo of Mjoepp
4.18/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Black liquid with a quite big light browish head. Medium and small bubbles, leaves some lacing on the glass.

S: Roasted (sweet) malt, coffee, lil' bit of choclate.

T: Roasted, coffee, choclate. Watery when swallowed, leaves a bitter roasted taste as aftertaste.

O: Quite impressed, deserves to have survied all these years.

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Photo of 100floods
4.12/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Vintage date says 2004. Pours coca-cola brown, with some half finger head. Smells a little sweet, a little roasty, some smokey hints in there too. First sip was good, second was a even better. Smokey, roasted, a little dark chocolate flavors, a little sweet aftertaste, similar to a rauchbier, but it also reminds me of zywiec's porter. I had this beer years ago when I first started getting into beer and I found it again, and I'm glad I did. Such a refreshing difference from most american porters (this one is swedish). The smokey flavors are a nice touch, just enough presence that I won't complain. Nice light beer, nice rich flavors. I'd love to have this on cask sometime.

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Photo of brentk56
4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2004 bottling; tasted in 2010

Appearance: Pours a dark chocolate brown color with ruby highlights; the stout-like beige head turns rocky and does a decent job leaving some strands of lace behind

Smell: Chocolate and licorice, along with some dark fruit elements

Taste: Opens with an almost lactic chocolate flavor, with vanilla, licorice and dark fruit flavors developing by mid-palate; after the swallow, there is a little bit of hop balance that arrives, though the sweet, malty elements dominate from start to finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: Certainly surprised that this beer has held up for so long, though at this stage I wouldn't put it in the top tier for the style; would be interesting to contrast with a fresher version

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Photo of biglite351
3.38/5  rDev -18%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

My bottle was a 2004, so it was a 6 year old brew.

A - a bit of red showing around the edges. Light tan tight head that leaves basically no lacing.

S - a little bit of a wine scent at the start. After that there are malts and caramel or chocolate.

T - fruit, probably raisin, malts, butterscotch,synergy a little coffee.

M - very smooth. Nice thickness, but not much coating nor tingle or other feeling.

D - very tasty and smooth, but the sweet raisin taste would get a little old after glass number two.

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Photo of matty
3.97/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pitch black colored beer with a rapidly fading head.Aroma is very pleasant with dark fruit and cocoa powder.Taste is dark fruit,caramel,butterscotch and chocolate.A very flavorful and good beer.I would highly recommend and definetly purchase again in the near future.

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Photo of mfaulk
4.6/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

33cl bottle from a systembolaget in Stockholm.

A: rich and dark. Small head, leaves some lacing.

S: smells like a doppelbock. Some raisin bread.

T: Great. Chocolate, raisins. Well-balanced subtle flavors, a tad sweet, then fades to a faint bitterness, like walnuts or baking cocoa.

M: Just right. Satisfyingly body, but it took will power to go through this bottle slowly. Very light carbonation. Smooth and creamy, then fades and makes me want more...

D: 33cl is just too small of a bottle.

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Photo of Aenema
3.95/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

(2006 Vintage)
Appearance - Pours deep black with a fluffy, tan head.
Smell - Dark, roasty malts.
Taste - Strong coffee grounds, cocoa; not much sweetness or bitterness, just intense roastiness.
Mouthfeel - Smooth feel with a light-medium body. Lifting, low carbonation.
Drinkability - Enjoyable beer that has much more flavor than the abv would suggest.

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Photo of BeerImmediately
4.23/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

2004 vintage into stout glass in the 45 degree range.

Pours with a healthy 3F of creamy, tan head over top of a deep brown body with burgundy edges. Nice amount of lacing present.

Powdery cocoa aroma, with butterscotch, molasses, and some bark in the back.

What a creamy, pleasant mouthfeel. Cocoa aroma transforms into milk chocolate with Kahlua, butterscotch becomes more pronounced with warming, and some roasted coffee bean finish throughout.

This goes down FAR too easily - thankfully, it's under 6%. Highly recommend that you pick this one up if you see it.

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Photo of ktrillionaire
4.7/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Vintage 2004. Drank 2010.

Important: this Porter tastes like a proper Porter, and not like an alternate Stout. That is part of the reason why it is so dope. Many a purported Porter these days is suspiciously similar to a Stout. This one, as I said, differentiates itself definitively and definitely.

A – It pours as black as crude, with a moderate tan foam, and some decent lace action.

S – The aroma is not extravagant, but it is succinct and sublime, as is everything about this brew. It basically smells of dark malt, light oxidation and notes of cinnamon and smoke.

T – Again, it is not strongly flavored, but it is phenomenally smooth and balanced. I can't believe this beer is nearly six years old. The taste is full and richly malty, but not sweet, with subtle suggestions of dark fruit, plums, fig and a hint of roasty oxidation.

M – Very hearty. Exceptional.

D – Again, I am shocked that this brew is nearly six years old. At 5.5%, I wouldn't think it would keep so well. But it certainly does.

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Photo of krunchie
4.35/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Pours an opaque black liquid with a nice tan, very thick and creamy head. Looks delicious! The head was almost entirely gone after 2 minutes...too bad, it looked great. Left a bit of nice lacing though.

S: Black malts and barley, I mean really you can really smell the raw grain! I like it, it smells fresh. Raisins and dark rye bread, some sweet milk chocolate and figs. Dried fruit and resin, no hop aroma. Estery and roasty.

T: Mmm, very roasty and toasty. Black malts, can really get the raw malt thing again. Malty and balanced, once again no hops (I don't want any hop flavor in this style of beer ethier, so that's a pro) and perfect bitterness. Less fruitiness in the flavor, much more raw roasted barley flavor and coffee. Get some more resin and a slight smoked wood flavor, quite grainy and hard caramelized like bread crust. Molasses and an "aged" character I like very much. Not very fruity in the flavor, very clean and refreshing which I think really makes this beer outstanding! A true winner

M/D: Easy to drink, medium body with perfect CO2 for the style. Smooth on the palate and crisp on the tongue, creamy but not too thick. Goes down easily!

I was surprised, this is a mighty fine beer! Great flavor and a clean roastiness, but still refreshing and leaving you wanting more. I should definitely go buy some more...

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Photo of unHipHopHead
4.54/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Should mention that the bottle I purchased was vintage 2004 and discounted from $7.99 to $5.99... there may have been some heavy moving involved.

a: a full head that resolved into a thin lace with medium bubbles attracted to one side. also, jet black color with caramelized bead and bubbles.

s: lots of molasses and a hint of chocolate. Like an aged scotch, I detect hints of woody and vanilla notes as well as a deep earthiness.

t: heavy roasted flavors with a bite of charcoal and sweetness around all. Flavors of espresso, molasses and dark chocolate.

m: smooth, thick and syrupy with a hint of carbonation.

d: an extremely solid porter that one could enjoy as a final wish.

As a Porter lover this was an enjoyable experience. All in all, this is one of the best Porters I have tried. I generally enjoy the Deschutes Black Butte (especially cask!) as well as the Alaskan Smoked. I wasn't expecting much from a Swedish brew but wow, this is a winner.

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Photo of rarbring
4.27/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This bottle is from 2009.

A very dark brown beer, almost black. The head is tan and melts down leaving quite some lace.

The smell is like stepping into a storage room full of dried plums, dates, figs and raisins. And somebody poured a cask of sherry over them and smashed the cask leaving some woody aromas as well.

The beer is rather light to drink, the taste is vinous and sweet with dried fruits. The hops are noticeable - probably due to being quite young. Hints of chocolate and coffee.

A creamy nice mouth-feel, a medium light carbonation.

A beer to drink quietly after dinner.

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Photo of Jayli
4.12/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

consumed 1/16
2004 vintage picked up at Gordon's in Watertown
Thanks to speakorspasm for the recommendation

A: This beer pours a thin deep, dark, chocolate brown with a one finger of creamy offwhite head. Some spotty lacing is left on the glass.

S: Nose is heavy on the fruits, prune and raisins really dominate the nose, and hints of caramel malt.

T: Taste is rather sweet. Dark fruits really dominate at the initial step. Slight hint of raisins, but prune is the real dominant fruit flavoring. Chocolate and deep burnt malts fill out the middle. Finish is vanilla, some cherries, and a mild hop presence.

M: Medium body, low carbonation, clean and crisp with a dry finish.

D: This is a very nice take on a baltic porter. Not too filling and goes down easily. The sweetness in it lessens the drinkability for me, but is perfect to enjoy a pint or two.

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Photo of StJamesGate
3.94/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2007 vintage.

Pours dark ruby with webs and carpets of off white lace. Where's the nose? Very light aroma of bark. Roasty malts up front with ash, cold coffee, and milk chocolate. Sweet middle. Mint and herbal hops close. Dry, light, smooth, round.

All about balance. Perhaps a challenge to what some other brewers are putting out as a Baltic, which is basically an Imperial Porter. But this is understated, subtle and oh so drinkable.

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Photo of KTCamm
4.11/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Spotted at the Morton Williams in NYC. 500 ml (or so) bottle. Poured into a pint glass. 2004 vintage as identified on the bottle.

Pours jet black with low white foam. Jet black, compltely blocks out the light.

Very minor roasted smell.

Lightly sweet chocolate taste, some roasting in there. Hints of minor fruits - plums, raisins, etc. Dry finish. Oddly full in the mouthfeel, but watery at time as well. But very smooth. Notes of coffee taste.

A very well made porter, good drinkability.

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Photo of brownbeer
3.95/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2004 vintage poured into a snifter.

A- Dark brown with a thin cream color head.

S- Malted milk balls, cocoa powder, with a certain fruitiness.

T- Yoo-hoo, a light fruity coffee note that's slighty bitter.

M- Light with very little carbonation, which defies all because the head retention is great.

D- Very drinkable due to the light body and lack of intensity.

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Photo of augustgarage
4.43/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

To celebrate the return of darkness and rain to Los Angeles (if not mudslides), I decided to have a Swedish themed Monday evening. So, I blasted Bathory, Watain, and Marduk while putting together a quick smörgåsbord of mustard herring, creamed chard, and risgrynspudding, consumed while re-watching Lilja 4-Ever.

To top things off, I found a suitable beer to begin (and round out) my evening.

Poured from a 500mL bottle into my Dogfish Head shaped pint glass. Bottled in 2006.

Dense seal brown body with a truly massive tan head. Mesmerizing tentacle-like lacing, suggestive of Jackson Pollock. Settles to a messy finger of foam with perpetual retention. No real legs, though not surprising as the ABV is on the low end of the scale for the style.

Potent aromatics - pumpernickel, coffee cake, toasted malt, licorice, along with lots of dark fruit esters.

Roast coffee, earth, figs, caramel, chocolate covered malt balls, and honey form the palate. Sweetness lasts for quite some time, but the finish becomes very toasty and slightly dry. Exceptional spice notes as well: clove, coriander, and hints of cardamom.

Not quite medium-bodied. Carbonation is pretty high, making this a very mouth-filling and creamy brew.

The most drinkable baltic porter I've ever had, without relinquishing much if any flavor despite the lower ABV. If not for the high price, I would choose this as a session ale over many English or American porters.

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Photo of OtherShoe2
4.08/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours deep black with a slight partial ring of a tan head.

Scents of deep roast malt and dark raisin bread. Some herbal notes as well. Not an overpowering scent, though.

Dark roasted malt with a great balance between bitterness and sweet, with a bite of sweet fruit that reminded me of booze-filled cherries covered with dark chocolate. Seriously!

Nice consistency with some oily qualities.

Overall, this one went fast. Not overly boozy, and great balance, body, and strenght/complexity of flavor. A very good and interesting porter to try. From 2004 batch.

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Photo of Evil_Pidde
4.08/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Black (with faint deep red notes), with a light brown large thick head that stays for some time before it dissipates leaving some lacings.

S: Heavy roasted sweet malt, faint raisin, some liqourish and some chocolate and faint coffee.

T: Sweet heavy roasted malt, with some dried dark fruit, chocolate and coffee. There is also hops, mostly bitter, but I can sence faint floral notes as well.

M: Body is medium, carbonation is moderate, the bewerage is creamy and smooth. The aftertaste is long and lingering with sweetness but also dryness and bitterness.

D: Well balanced. Nice and a bit complex. A very nice porter from Sweden.

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Photo of bobsy
4.27/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle from Tucker's Maltings. Drank in a caravan.

Pours a deep mahogany with a finger of tan head that soon dissipates to a thin and patchy film. Only a few spots of lace are left behind. The nose has an extremely enticing mix of chocolate, roasted malt and very strong and sweet dark fruit. Once the beer is tasted it reveals a large treacle character, which is more than likely the result if waves of raisin, chocolate and brown sugar melding together. This is accompanied by a light coffee roast and moderate bitterness. Smooth, almost creamy mouthfeel with a hint of alcohol in the tail. This beer drinks bigger than it is, which is a great feat for a lower ABV Baltic porter, and probably makes it one of the few that could be sessioned.

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Photo of jahfool
4.01/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

An unexpected treat, had never heard of the beer before- "Pripps Carnegie Porter." Dark black appearance, decent head. Mild aroma, rich malty taste with huge roast and chocolate flavor and a nice hoppy edge. Full mouthfeel, solid drinkability. Fantastic porter, almost stout-ish. Very well balanced, clean flavo. Would instantly order again if seen. Definitely recommended.

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Photo of ricke
3.28/5  rDev -20.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

2009 vintage.

A: Dark brown with a tanned head that settles into some lacings.

S: Smooth malts, rye bread, caramel and notes of vinous fruits. A hint of coffee. The taste is somewhat mild and restrained, but rather good.

T: The taste is mostly sweet with bready malts to the fore. Notes of vinous fruits, wood and a hint of coffee. Faint note of chocolate. The finish is rather short with a minimal bitterness, mineral notes, wood and malty sweetness.

M: Medium body. The carbonation is of the sort you most often find in mass produced fizzy lagers.

D: This is a good beer, but no more. I like the vinous and fruity character it showcases. But it's kind of restrained, both in terms of aromas and flavors, and it lacks complexity, and in my opinion, its reputation as one of the best porters in the world is greatly exaggerated. Perhaps it once was, but the way the brewery has treated this classic beer during the last decade is embarrassing.

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Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 338 ratings.