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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

Carnegie Porter 5,5%Carnegie Porter 5,5%

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

445 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 445
Reviews: 322
rAvg: 4.12
pDev: 10.92%


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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001)
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BeerBuilder

Minnesota

4.25/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours black with ruby highlights. It forms a thick, light brown head with excellent lacing. The aroma is roasty and chocolatey. It has a deep roasted malt flavor. It is expresso-like in flavor also. It is a full-bodied beer, which has a somewhat creamy texture. It was a very tasty porter; I would definitely sample this one again.

Serving type: bottle

04-10-2003 09:46:28 | More by BeerBuilder
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NeroFiddled

Pennsylvania

4.47/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2001. Pours a very deep mahogany brown with a reddish cast when held to the light; but appears black in the glass beneath a creamy light-tan head. The head holds fairly well at first but soon dissipates to just a thin collar and some whispy surface foam.The nose expresses a sweet vanilla-laced caramel maltiness and some light, yeasty fruitiness. The body is medium; and it combines with a fine, moderate carbonation to leave it creamy and smooth in the mouth. The flavor is bold; and displays a vanilla/butter/caramel maltiness up-front, and a bit of chocolate towards the swallow along with some earthy/herbal hop flavors and a dull bitterness. It finishes bready with some residual sugary maltiness (molasses, brown sugar, light milk chocolate) and a drying bitterness. Quite exceptional! A classic Baltic porter that's well worth trying.

Serving type: bottle

04-02-2003 18:13:57 | More by NeroFiddled
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BeerResearcher

Massachusetts

4.1/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This oddly named Swedish Export is a very interesting Baltic-style Porter. Black Coffee in color with a heavy to medium malty body. The hop content is fairly high, possessing a raw hop bite. Dry and crisp and lightly smoky with a hint of caramel sweetness. Pleasing hop and lightly smoky aroma. This is a well-made, easy to drink porter with a nice beige head...speaking of which, I’d like to experience this dark Swede with a Swedish blonde on a cold winter’s eve!

Serving type: bottle

03-25-2003 07:20:31 | More by BeerResearcher
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cokes

Wisconsin

4.4/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Condemned in 2001. No chance of salvation until April 2010.

The crimson blackness is ringed with a small brown foam.
Nose is ripped apart with winged plums, and malts singed with the fires of Hades.

Taste begins the descent:

At the First Gate, torturous black malts wail with a sizzling harsh sweetness.
The Second Gate beacons with undying Grapes wallowing in their Earthly sins.
Past the Third Gate, Roasted Barley screams for forgiveness.
The Forth Gate smolders with an unholy smokiness, strapped to its device of oaken, woody horror.
The Fifth Gate exibits chocolate malt contorted in an obscene manner, pleading for mercy, as the poker is jabbed to its ribs.
Gate #6 contains plums, too lustful in life to exist elsewhere.
Beyond the stone-hued Seventh Gate is a sulfurous surge of reduced coffee that emits fumes of pure decadence.
The buttery whimpering of diacetyl lie past the Eight Gate, Joined with an acidic bawl.
The final gate, Number 9, is a raisin-drenched screech of alcohol-drowned dark fruit pain and suffering.

The deliciousness of pure wickedness unfolds. But the malice is less full than expected.
Nevertheless, it is a vice that can be indulged en masse.

Truly devilish.

Serving type: bottle

03-18-2003 01:00:25 | More by cokes
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MJR

Missouri

4.4/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

1998 Vintage.

Appearance: Pours an opaque black body with lots of huge bubbles pretending to be a head. The bubbles don't last long and I'm left with what appears to be a glass of oil...in other words, it looks yummy!

Smell: Has a complex aroma of coffee, chocolate, roasted grains, and malted milk balls. There's the faintest scent of green hops.

Taste: Fairly sweet with a lot going on. Like the smell, the flavor is quite complex with the attention being shared by burnt, roasted grains, rich chocolate, mollasses, coffee that's been sitting for a while, and malted milk balls...that's right, Whoppers! Interesting! Finishes with a slight hop flavor, not bitterness really, but a distinct 'green' flavor.

Mouthfeel: Well, the carbonation's mostly gone, but it's doesn't really feel flat. It's got a medium thickness body with an oily, wet mouthfeel.

Drinkability: Give me a newer bottle with all of it's full carbonation and I could drink this all night. This is a fantastic porter, but not so complex as to limit the drinker to one or two.

Serving type: bottle

02-04-2003 15:57:45 | More by MJR
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Rocko

Sweden

4.78/5  rDev +16%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Vintage 2002:

Wow this is a real baby. :) Pours pitch black with a small brown head that fades away after a few seconds. It smells very malty with hints of coffee and dark chocolate, I think it has a really pleasant smell.

The taste is very complex, nice and pleasantly bitter, there is also a bit of coffee and burnt sugar in the background. The aftertaste is very long, but not as bitter as one would think. Thumbs up from me.

I think I will buy a few and let them mature!

Quote from the back label: "Carnegie Porter was created in 1836 and the taste is the same today" Anyone happen to have a 1836 vintage? ;))

Serving type: bottle

02-02-2003 08:53:28 | More by Rocko
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stegmakk

New York

4.15/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2001 bottle
Color is DARK brown almost black. Head was a nice tan but dissapeared quickly. Smelled a little coffe flavor but it was too metallic to give it a higher rating. The taset was great. There wasn't much of the metal flavor. It is a nicely blended porter. Not too coffee like, but just enough. It had a smooth slightly thick feel. Definately a good porter. Definately worth getting again.

Serving type: bottle

01-28-2003 20:00:41 | More by stegmakk
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JoeyHotrod

Missouri

4.1/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1997 bottle..... The beer poured to a dark brown almost black color with not much in the way of a head. There were hints of a good strong coffee as well as the chocolate you would expect in a nice porter. There was not much in the way of carbonation which is a good thing from my perspective.

Not my favorite porter and perhaps just a shade or two light, but overall a very nice beer to enjoy. Not easy to find from what I understand, but clearly worth the effort.

Serving type: bottle

01-01-2003 18:20:44 | More by JoeyHotrod
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JISurfer

South Carolina

4.47/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Damn! This beer totally rocks! The dude from the Vintage Cellar in Blacksburg told me that this beer is one of his best Porters, so I took his advice and gave it a shot. I had high expectations for it, and it totally blew those out of the water. This beer has a nice thick malty taste to it and finishes off with a chocolate flavor. Even my girlfriend, who loves to drink Natty(don't worry, I am working on her), totally digged this stuff. I totally recommend this beer to anyone who is looking for a change for the better.

Serving type: bottle

12-25-2002 00:18:00 | More by JISurfer
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Realale

Missouri

4.18/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

1998 version, but purchased in 2002.

Deep reddish brown, with definite black overtones. No head at all - just little wisps of foam.

Nose is licorice, but the really good yeasty, bready kind of licorice. Supporting date and raisin notes as well.

Very malty on the palate. Lots of licorice again, but nice acidity and bitterness add complexity and keep the residual sweetness from becoming cloying. An interesting take on a Porter.

Serving type: bottle

12-12-2002 18:47:21 | More by Realale
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feloniousmonk

Minnesota

4.53/5  rDev +10%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A definitive ebony hue. Good, crackling tan head. As Fred Eckhart recommends, put this one to your ear and listen! Aroma is a blast of espresso, cocoa, anise and molasses. Rich and roasted, with loads of bitterness on the palate and a tenacious finish. Complex, if a bit gritty. Not a brew for novices or girly-men, this is stiff and substantial stuff. Label says best before August 2O1O, but who could wait that long? Unfortunately, the brewery has become bereft of their senses and is discontinuing this classic, so grab one if you can.

Serving type: bottle

12-01-2002 16:57:34 | More by feloniousmonk
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comat0se

Colorado

4.13/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2001: Pours a nice dark ruby color with chocolate overtones with a smooth, tan head leaving behind a lacy cling. A whiff from the glass reveals big sweet, malty, dark fruity, raisin aromas. Big sweet malt flavor with a slight metallic twinge, some alcohol warming, medium fruitiness like plums or raisins, and a mild roasted malt contribution. A dry hops finish with some grain astringency keeps this beer under control. It has a smooth, medium-heavy body with medium carbonation, but has an almost syrupy consistency. This is a super malty porter... I didn't know they could be like this. Almost reminded me of some doppelbocks, but with some roast character added.

Serving type: bottle

11-12-2002 21:14:15 | More by comat0se
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yen157

New Jersey

4.22/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

2001: Black beer, only appears red nead the edges and bottom of the glass. Also, tan head goes away somewhat quickly. Nice toasted grain smell along with some caramel.
Hearty bodied beer, nice example of a heavy porter. Good use of dark malts. Charcoal burn grain flavor is present but very well intermingled with other tastes such as coffee and dark chocolate. Hops bitterness works closely with grain bitterness to keep beer from tasting sweet. Very smooth, creamy beer. Carbonation kept light so that it doesn't take attention away from this robust beer.

Serving type: bottle

11-11-2002 10:54:54 | More by yen157
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jackndan

Illinois

4.4/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

D. Carnegie & Co. Stark Porter 2001 from Sweden: In a big 16.9 oz. Bottle. The label says that the best by date is April of 2010! This is clearly a beer made for cellaring, but I have no time to lose. This beer pours an inky black with ruby tints. Thick full head, with Belgian lace all the way down. Clean light aroma, vaguely like a good Columbian coffee. Creamy mouthfeel, with some carbonation. Initial taste is licorice, which leads to a dark rye/ pumpernickel, and molasses. Very well done, with several layers of tastes. Excellent.

Serving type: bottle

07-25-2002 08:34:06 | More by jackndan
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Bighuge

Minnesota

3.7/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

2001: This beer is a very dark ruby. Thin beige head disintegrates to nothing quickly. A coffee scent dominates with hints of mocha as well on the nose. Nice velvet like feel on the tongue. Smooth tastes of chocolate, cocoa and java. Very smooth porter. Very easy drinking. A nice faint bitterness. A solid porter in my book.

Serving type: bottle

05-16-2002 21:47:16 | More by Bighuge
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ORM1

Russian Federation

3.98/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

2000: Deep black with a very good head. But... There is something I don't like. May be it's not enough deep in its' black. Caramel smell with a little touch of chocolate, not so vivid but very pleasant. What about taste? Well... taste is too hidden for porter. Very sweet, even much sweet. It tastes just like Nothern German schwarz-beers.
Too low abv and gravity for porter, but that's good indeed for drinkability. You can drink it much :)

And that's an only one Swedish porter I ever drank... Good beer.

Serving type: bottle

05-14-2002 00:12:20 | More by ORM1
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Jason

Massachusetts

4.63/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Presentation: Short 8.82 oz brown bottle with the vintage date of 1998 on the label.

Appearance: Thin lace though it has neatly textured tiny bubbles that crop up every time you take a sip. Close to jet black, only holding it up to the light will it produce some ruby hues.

Smell: Big sugary molasses aroma with a figgy back, dark caramel all over though chocolaty enough to give off a suggestion of brownies. Faint acidity in the nose also.

Taste: Smooth low level of carbonation with a slick mouth feel and solid full to medium body. Roasted flavours are intense but simple with a bite of charcoal and sweetness around all. Flavours of mild espresso, molasses and dark chocolate engulf the taste buds. Vague signs of age show with a touch of wet paper, this seems to add more good than harm and enhances the rich roasted flavours. From the charcoal flavours are trace woody and vanilla notes as well as a deep earthiness. Vague and lost acidic twang barely makes a dent in the threshold of flavour. Fruitiness is hidden for the most part but glimpses of burnt raisins and prune come to mind. Stays sweet even through the finish and there the alcohol is fairly noticed.

Notes: After four years it has held up very well with little signs of damage. Oxidation is minimal and the acidic twang is far out of reach to be a nuance. Makes you wonder what another year or more will bring to this brew.
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1997: Nearly jet black with a very thin bubbly lace that keeps on coming back after each sip. Smell of dark bread similar to pumpernickel, good amount of sweetness in the nose to soften the roasted aroma. Mild charcoal with woody and bready flavours that want to come in at the same time, very low carbonation that lets the creaminess flow first then a quick yet small smoothness rolls in. Vague acidic twang that is very passive, malt flavours pass back and forth between roasted and bready. Hops are but a dream and seem to be the most faded trait this brew has, thankfully the roasted grain picks up a little of the slack. Hard to tell this brew is on it fifth year, malt is still very fresh on the palate.

Serving type: bottle

04-26-2002 19:56:39 | More by Jason
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marc77

California

2.85/5  rDev -30.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

1998: The head formation is poor, and a only a thin rim of bubbles coats the inside of the glass. Like many porters, a deep garnet hue is noticeable when held up to light. The slightly sweetish, dark caramel malt and mocha - like chocolate malt is quite pleasant, but could be more assertive. Fairly thinly bodied for a porter, and there is nothing outstanding in the malt profile. A fairly one dimensional black patent and chocolate malt bitterness dominates the flavor, thus making this beer a bit unexciting. Hop bitterness has faded and is lost amongst the roasted grain bitterness. The finish is quite dry and too clean. Perhaps this beer has aged poorly, since the complex malt and hop character that comprises a good porter was sorely lacking in this brew. Nothing ventured nothing gained, I guess.

Serving type: bottle

04-07-2002 18:19:25 | More by marc77
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WilliamPhilaPa

Pennsylvania

4.83/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

(Argang 2000) Wow! This stuff is great! Starts by pouring a very dark black, with a very yummy looking dark tan head. The head sticks around for a good time also, the body is a medium to light- heavy with a very nice smooth mouthfeel. Very nice robust coffee notes and light caramel flavor, with just enough sweetness ( not over done ) to really enjoy this brew! This stuff is great to the last drop! Ends with a nice long finish!Overall a excellent Porter! I need more!

Serving type: bottle

04-06-2002 14:30:32 | More by WilliamPhilaPa
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rastaman

United Kingdom (England)

3.53/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

1998: A good porter, but perhaps a little sweet or something, still i can't believe Pripps brew this, that brewery really sucks.

Serving type: bottle

02-17-2002 20:32:32 | More by rastaman
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steorn

Minnesota

4.45/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1998: baltic porters are a style all their own.this one is one of the finest.try saving a bottle or two for acouple of years. they age beautifully.

Serving type: bottle

01-09-2002 21:52:21 | More by steorn
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Todd

Colorado

4.95/5  rDev +20.1%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Presentation: 8.82fl.oz. cute little brown bottle. "årgång 1997" states that it's their '97 vintage. "stark" is strong.

Appearance: Deep, dark brown/ruby red. Head pours weak at first with large bubbles, then it creates a 1/4" cream lace under the same. It dissipates to a patchy, creamy off-white lace. A gentle swirl will induce a more creamy head.

Smell: One of the best aromas that I have ever come across. Big malt aromas of dark fruits and sweet raw malts, touch of caramel malt, black liquorice, oak and vanilla. Esters and oxidation are noted. Very rich and complex nose.

Taste: Sweet malt profile of caramel (faint diacetyl/butter flavours), grape-like flavours, light molasses and chocolate. No real "roasted" type flavours, which makes it a very traditional Porter, however you can just pick up a faint smoked malt flavour. Body is medium to full, mouthfeel is a bit chewy and luscious. Towards the end you can taste some oxidation and cherry/oak notes, a by-product of its age. Finishes slighty dry and bready, with notes of grain husk and chocolate residuals.

Notes: This vintage has probably reached its peak, though I'd be interested in tasting it again in a few years. It's an amazing example of the style and ripe for the tasting. I implore everyone to try this magnificent Swedish beer.

Serving type: bottle

02-04-2001 09:48:26 | More by Todd
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Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 445 ratings.