Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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92
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336 Reviews
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Reviews: 336
Hads: 530
rAvg: 4.13
pDev: 10.17%
Wants: 52
Gots: 30 | FT: 2
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".
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Photo of JayQue
3.97/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

My first beer from Sweden. A winner! Purchased at Grape and Gourmet in Va Beach. Kevin has the Rate Beer scores taped under most shelves in the store. This one was rated super high...as it is on Beer Advocate as well. I can see why now. Poured from an 11.2 oz bottle into a pint glass, the light tan head is just average with less than average retention and some spotty lacing. The beer itself has a nice dark brown color with ruby highlights available around the sides and bottom of the glass. The aroma is powerful, as pleasantly strong as some RISs. The aroma is malty, plenty of coffee and a vinuous/ port wine aroma as well. Taste is similar, a strong malty presence, coffee as the next most powerful flavor, a vinuous quality is there too. The only flavor that does come through in the aroma is the finishing hops bitterness. Adds a "just right" balance.

Mouthfeel is rich,,,hops at the end provides a nice treat for the tongue. Alcohol presence is mild and appropriate.

A fine porter!!! (995 characters)

Photo of rarbring
4.27/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This bottle is from 2009.

A very dark brown beer, almost black. The head is tan and melts down leaving quite some lace.

The smell is like stepping into a storage room full of dried plums, dates, figs and raisins. And somebody poured a cask of sherry over them and smashed the cask leaving some woody aromas as well.

The beer is rather light to drink, the taste is vinous and sweet with dried fruits. The hops are noticeable - probably due to being quite young. Hints of chocolate and coffee.

A creamy nice mouth-feel, a medium light carbonation.

A beer to drink quietly after dinner. (588 characters)

Photo of mdagnew
4.2/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

500ml bottle bought from The Vineyard, Belfast...

Poured deep dark mahogany brown with a hint of red when held up to the light. Mocha tan head poured pretty thick and foamy with a bubbly top then faded quite quickly to decent coating with thick edging... some light patchy lacing...

Aroma - Lots of lightly roasted chocolate malts, toasted bread, dark sweet fruits (stewed plums, blackcurrents), dark brown sugar sweetness, roasted nuts, light burnt toffee, fresh vanilla, mocha coffee notes, light allspice, some treacle notes...

Taste - Lots of milk chocolate notes, toasted bready malts, nice treacle sweetness which is balanced by light spicy and peppery hop bitterness, prune and date fruitiness, toasted nuts, milky notes, coffee with brown sugar, cocoa powder...

Feel - Smooth and creamy with a little bite just coming through... a very sessionable brew especially at only 5.5%.

Overall - An incredibly well balanced and drinkable Porter but at £3.50 a bottle not something that i'd be buying all the time... definitely recommended though... (1,054 characters)

Photo of bditty187
3.95/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Clear, dark brown in hue with a mix of ruby and tan highlights; beige head, at the apex the foam was over two fingers tall. Head retention was impressive; while the foam had a pocked soda look the bubbles did hang together very well. A tight cap lasted the entire consumption. Lacing started before I took a sip but, overall, it wasn’t very widespread. I can’t complain about the appearance, so I won’t. This is an attractive beer.

The nose has lots of toffee and caramel aromas as well as a faint but noticeable chocolate smell. Hints of molasses, figs, and raisins… no alcohol notes which should be expected considering it clocks in at sub 6% ABV. Clean aromas, no ale fruitiness. Lager yeast maybe? Not the most complex Baltic Porter I’ve smelled but it fits the mold, IMO. Moderate potency; I’ll call the aromas inviting, if not a tad straightforward.

The palate has a wonderful charred taste along with black coffee notes. Dry… more roasted then the nose indicated. There are suggestions of figs and raisins but these flavors are much in the background. Chocolate finds a home in the middle, somewhere after the char and coffee but before the dark fruits. Right before the finish, at the swallow, there is a brief hint of vanilla. Quick, dry, roasted aftertaste. I really like it. Compact flavor profile with enough complexity to keep me interested. Overall, it is tasty.

IMO, the mouthfeel is a tad thin and watery; about medium in body… maybe this is fitting for the size of this beer. Even so, I want more heft. Low but natural carbonation; on the whole the mouthfeel is okay. While I have complaints, this aspect of the beer doesn’t ruin the overall experience.

A session Baltic Porter? I think so. Should there be such a thing? Carnegie is not better than Gonzo or Ockocim but I like it all the same. Some crackers and cheddar cheese would rock with it. Maybe even a black bean burrito or a burger. I purchased a couple bottles in Council Bluffs, IA for $3.29. It was worth it.


“årgång 2006” (2,033 characters)

Photo of PorterLambic
4.6/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

A beautiful pitch black brew with a 1 1/2" tan head that drops to 1/2" smoothly. Some scattered, coarse lace.
Smell was of roasted malt, oak, coffee with a hint of toastiness to it.
Taste was wonderfully complex, with roasted malt and a coffee tinged oakiness, a bit of dark chocolate & a hint of vanilla (?) this was just perfectly balanced.
Mouthfeel was very nice, creamy, full-bodied and smooth with just the right amount of carbonation.
This brew is supremely drinkable, in fact, the only thing I can possibly knock it on: I would have liked a little smoky flovor to it. I would have gone almost all 5's then. A tremendous beer.
For the record, mine was a 2001 on the label (the picture on the site shows 1997) and I noticed at the bottom of the back label was printed "Best before April 2010. Yes, 2010. A three year old beer with 7 more to go. I'll be looking for more of this.

April, 2007

I found more! A 2004 vintage. The appearance score drops slightly due to minimal head retention but the taste and smell increase due to finding the previously sought smoke character which was all over the nose, mouth and aftertaste that just lingered forever (with vanilla) at the back of the throat. Buy it, drink it, want more. (1,237 characters)

Photo of CuriousMonk
3.26/5  rDev -21.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Very dark brown, average and mostly diminishing light brown head. Moderate, malty and sweetish aroma, fruitiness - dark fruits, some coffee and roasted malt. Body is medium, malty and sweetish flavor, some fruitiness and coffee,light roasted malt. Finish is average, malty and sweetish, coffee and some roasted malt, light fruitiness and hoppyness. Overall, this porter was a bit too flattish for me, but had a nice vinous fruitiness to it. (440 characters)

Photo of Offa
4.97/5  rDev +20.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This is an outstanding, complex, yet highly drinkable baltic porter. Despite being at the low abv end for the style, it does not lack character.

Almost black, it has a medium tan head very slowly shrinking to foamy ring & wisps, some lace.

Aroma is rich anisy prunes, dark sweet toast, dried dark fruits, chocolate.

Taste is wonderful toasted dark brown bread, singed prunes, anisy-woody elements, roastiness, wood. It has firm sweetness, light engaging bitterness. Finish is roasty and woody with dry cocoa. It is engaging and lively but the feel, though not oily, is full.

It is an outstanding balance between rich, full character, complexity, and easy drinkability. (673 characters)

Photo of lackenhauser
4.33/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2004 vintage-Pours a deep,deep ruby brown-borders on black but theres some great ruby highlights visible when held to the light. No real head to speak of. Low aroma-some roasted malt and a low level of yeastiness. Great big malty flavor-not overly astringent as some porters can be. Nice blend of chocolate and roasted malt. Mild bitterness. Lingering sweetness-somewhat trecle like in the finish. Wonderful body. An excellent beer and an even better porter-Baltic or otherwise. Very well balanced and rounded. At $5 a bottle I would like to see this in an affordable 6 or 4 pack. This could become a common occurance! (618 characters)

Photo of OtherShoe2
4.08/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours deep black with a slight partial ring of a tan head.

Scents of deep roast malt and dark raisin bread. Some herbal notes as well. Not an overpowering scent, though.

Dark roasted malt with a great balance between bitterness and sweet, with a bite of sweet fruit that reminded me of booze-filled cherries covered with dark chocolate. Seriously!

Nice consistency with some oily qualities.

Overall, this one went fast. Not overly boozy, and great balance, body, and strenght/complexity of flavor. A very good and interesting porter to try. From 2004 batch. (562 characters)

Photo of ummswimmin
4/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I had this as part of a beer experience program at my favorite tavern. If this wasn't part of the program, then I would have probably missed out on this beer.

The bar served this beer with a tulip style glass. The porter was dark with just a little bit of opaque brown at the edges of the glass. There wwas pretty minimal foam that dies down pretty quickly. It isn't a surprise that there wasn't lacing due to the style.

I picked up a lot of chocolate off the top of the Carnegie. There was also some coffee, but that comes way after the chocolate. The flavor follows the nose on this one. This is a pretty tasty beer. You continue to get the chocolate and lighter coffee. There is even some light hopping.

This is a pretty good porter overall. (747 characters)

Photo of BretSikkink
3.91/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reasonably dark brown color with some accenting around the side - head is thick and pretty full. A smattering of lace, but not much going on.

Pleasant and mildly sweet aromas of fruit and roasted malt. I'm pretty unimpressed with how weak this nose is.

I expected a little more darkly roasted malts and strength of character, but what's there is nice of taste - I just want more of it. Lots of chocolate and more than a little coffee, but the complexity isn't too high.

More fullness is required in the end; for this style I would like a little more malt body and a more fleshed out beer in general. This is easy to drink in the sense that it's light bodied with some interesting flavors, but I'm ready for another beer and if I had any number of alternatives within this style I would take them. (802 characters)

Photo of ktrillionaire
4.7/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Vintage 2004. Drank 2010.

Important: this Porter tastes like a proper Porter, and not like an alternate Stout. That is part of the reason why it is so dope. Many a purported Porter these days is suspiciously similar to a Stout. This one, as I said, differentiates itself definitively and definitely.

A – It pours as black as crude, with a moderate tan foam, and some decent lace action.

S – The aroma is not extravagant, but it is succinct and sublime, as is everything about this brew. It basically smells of dark malt, light oxidation and notes of cinnamon and smoke.

T – Again, it is not strongly flavored, but it is phenomenally smooth and balanced. I can't believe this beer is nearly six years old. The taste is full and richly malty, but not sweet, with subtle suggestions of dark fruit, plums, fig and a hint of roasty oxidation.

M – Very hearty. Exceptional.

D – Again, I am shocked that this brew is nearly six years old. At 5.5%, I wouldn't think it would keep so well. But it certainly does. (1,039 characters)

Photo of clvand0
4.13/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

1997 Vintage. Pours a very dark color with no head and leaves no lacing on the glass. The aroma has the character of a very sweet raisin with possibly some other fruits in there and a hint of soy sauce. The flavor has a lot of chocolate in it that sticks around, but it also has some dark fruit character and some other dark malts. It's dark tasty for an eight year old beer. Not much in the way of roastiness. Mouthfeel is kind of thin, but again, it's really old. The drinkability is really good. (498 characters)

Photo of Jayli
4.12/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

consumed 1/16
2004 vintage picked up at Gordon's in Watertown
Thanks to speakorspasm for the recommendation

A: This beer pours a thin deep, dark, chocolate brown with a one finger of creamy offwhite head. Some spotty lacing is left on the glass.

S: Nose is heavy on the fruits, prune and raisins really dominate the nose, and hints of caramel malt.

T: Taste is rather sweet. Dark fruits really dominate at the initial step. Slight hint of raisins, but prune is the real dominant fruit flavoring. Chocolate and deep burnt malts fill out the middle. Finish is vanilla, some cherries, and a mild hop presence.

M: Medium body, low carbonation, clean and crisp with a dry finish.

D: This is a very nice take on a baltic porter. Not too filling and goes down easily. The sweetness in it lessens the drinkability for me, but is perfect to enjoy a pint or two. (861 characters)

Photo of Rayek
4.44/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

From a 2006 Vintage bottle.

A: Ultra deep mahogany colored beer that borders on black. Frothy tan head has above average retention and leaves small streaks of lace.

S: A heavy mass of licorice, molasses and strawberries greet the nose. A pepper tingle resides in the background to provide balance.

T: This beer is quite sweet, but in a dark way, if that makes any sense. Licorice and molasses from the nose start things out. Dark fruits creep in with a vinous quality to add more complexity. Bitterness comes on with a pepper bite. A mild alcohol presence makes the beer seem stronger than it is. Finishes warm, with a lingering licorice flavor.

M: The body has a good amount of heft to it. Carbonation level is right on.

D: I really, really liked this. It was a dreary day out side, and this beer served as a nice pick me up. I'm happy to have found this and will visit it again. (885 characters)

Photo of DogFood11
3.57/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Gobbled this at Barney's Beanery in west hollywood, former stomping grounds of Janis Joplin and Mr Jim Morrison. Poured a dark brown without much sunlight able to penetrate this pup. lots of burnt type tones to it. Extremely smooth to the point of being watery. Coffee was evident but not prominent. Finished with some hops but not overly dry.

Overall I thought it was ok but for the price it was not a beer I'll pursue. I'll pay for a great brew but for an OK brew no.

Edit Feb 2006: Bottled 2004 version. Still not one I'd seek out but if this was the offering at my hotel in Ibiza I'd gobble it up and love it. As it stands, LA has enough options to where this brew is a passer by.

Edit Feb 2007: Had another bottle of the 2004 and I stand by my original scores. Its just OK fresh or with age. A bit of a cola feel starts to creep in as it gets older and not a bad thing really as this needs a bit more depth. (922 characters)

Photo of crossovert
3.33/5  rDev -19.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

500ml bottle, says Argang 2004, i doubt that is it's production year. The back has the date of 12 OKT 14 on it. Apparently it is from before 2009.

It pours a dark brown with hints of brownish red on the far edges. The head is sandy and tan and recedes with some lacing.

This one smells very fruity and alcoholic. It reminds me of a Belgian dark ale rather than a Baltic porter form the smell. There is a hint of chocolate that remains the only hint to the style.

The flavor is more porter-like but it seems a bit thin. There are strong hints of coffee and chocolate along with some dark fruits. Very, very chocolatey.

Overall it is a bit thin and watery for the style, not really worth the pickup imo. (705 characters)

Photo of woemad
4.82/5  rDev +16.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Had this last night at the Viking. 2001 vintage. Poured an inky black, with a head somewhere between tan and mud-color. Rich odor, I got elements of chocolate, rich, roasted black coffee, dark fruits, and a beguiling smokiness. The taste was exquisite, silky smooth. Velvety chocolate and premium coffee, wrapped in a thin sheen of smoked malt. Truly a pleasure to drink. If this being axed, as I've heard other BAs say, I'm going to buy up as many of these as my resources will allow. (485 characters)

Photo of budgood1
4.5/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

2001 vintage.
pours out a nearly opaque, dark crimson colour. thin wispy head and slight wisps of lace. sweet sugary aroma...raisins and molasses come to mind...hints of chocolate and caramel. upon first taste, the first thing to hit me was the extremely silky smooth and velvety mouthfeel...leading to swirling flavours of semi-sweet chocolate and slightly bitter espresso. a magnificent combination. a sweet but dry finish; lingering bitterness on the tongue. supremely drinkable and down right delicious. one of the best beers i have ever had the pleasure of drinking. i will be getting a stash of these for sure! excellent tonic for a blustery and cold day in north dakota/northern minnesota. (697 characters)

Photo of JISurfer
4.46/5  rDev +8%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Damn! This beer totally rocks! The dude from the Vintage Cellar in Blacksburg told me that this beer is one of his best Porters, so I took his advice and gave it a shot. I had high expectations for it, and it totally blew those out of the water. This beer has a nice thick malty taste to it and finishes off with a chocolate flavor. Even my girlfriend, who loves to drink Natty(don't worry, I am working on her), totally digged this stuff. I totally recommend this beer to anyone who is looking for a change for the better. (523 characters)

Photo of marc77
2.89/5  rDev -30%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

1998: The head formation is poor, and a only a thin rim of bubbles coats the inside of the glass. Like many porters, a deep garnet hue is noticeable when held up to light. The slightly sweetish, dark caramel malt and mocha - like chocolate malt is quite pleasant, but could be more assertive. Fairly thinly bodied for a porter, and there is nothing outstanding in the malt profile. A fairly one dimensional black patent and chocolate malt bitterness dominates the flavor, thus making this beer a bit unexciting. Hop bitterness has faded and is lost amongst the roasted grain bitterness. The finish is quite dry and too clean. Perhaps this beer has aged poorly, since the complex malt and hop character that comprises a good porter was sorely lacking in this brew. Nothing ventured nothing gained, I guess. (809 characters)

Photo of AleWatcher
4.2/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

This is a 2004 vintage, served in an imperial pint.

Dark blackish brown with a 1 finger tan head. No lacing, but decent retention.
Smells of rich, thick malt with notes of caramel, toffee, and chocolate.
The beer tastes just as I'd expect- roasty roasty malts with hints of cocoa and coffee. An acrid smoke character is warmly inviting.

The body is hefty, but creamy and sturdy. Good low carbonation level is spot on.

Overall-- this is nice. I'll be grabbing some more of this to sample at various stages of aging. (522 characters)

Photo of secondtooth
3.53/5  rDev -14.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Black as night, with a thick head of tan foam. Thin but attractive lace.

Nose says caramel and toffee.

Tasting reveals a really sweet porter. I get more toffee, caramel, and a little chocolate. Maybe this bottle was stored too long (or in improper conditions), but the bottle says best by 2016! Nonetheless, it seems something's off here.

Anyhow, I can envision a fresher bottle being a fine session porter, but this bottle didn't cut it. (442 characters)

Photo of spoony
4.14/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From a 330 ml bottle (best by October 10, 2015) into a snifter.

A-The beer is a nice-looking ebony brown/black color with about one finger of tan head. I get some lacing on the glass as I drink, but the head retention is on the shorter side.

S-The aroma is simple at first, but reveals more complexity with each new sniff. I get some roasted flavors, but overall bitterness and smokiness are moderate. The malts are earthy with aromas of tobacco, prunes, and molasses. There is some caramel sweetness and dark fruit, too.

T-The taste is not quite as intriguing as the smell, but is pleasant nonetheless. There is just a bit of acrid, smokey bite, as well as caramel, molasses, earthy oak, and a bit of rye bread crust. Bitterness is pretty low for the style, but the beer packs a little touch of pleasant, coffee-like acidity.

M-The feel is medium in heft with a chunky carbonation that is below average in volume.

O-This is a very nice beer. The aroma, in particular, just keeps revealing new flavors with each sniff and each new flavor just seems to fold into the rest in a really pleasing package. The taste is a bit simpler and the mouth is a touch lighter than I would like, but I would happily drink more of this. (1,226 characters)

Photo of nlmartin
4.74/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer was purchased at Jungle Jims. The beer was served in a imperial pint glass. The beer was the 2004 vintage. The bottle says best by 2014. I just dont know if this is a realistic best by date.

Appearance: The beer pours a black coloration with ruby opaqueness to light. The beer had a thick creamed coffee colored head. The head resolved itself into a thin ring. Patches of lacing remain on my glass.

Smell: This beer is loaded with dark roasted and toasted malts. The beer produces wiffs of smokeyness. The beer is majorly loaded with dark fruityness perhaps figs, prunes and black currants. The beer has a bit of choco and coffee smells playing in the smell. I cant really pinpoint anything that is hoppy in origin but I dont care. This is a dam fine smelling beer.

Taste: The beer delivers on the smell big time. This is a malty beer treat. The beer never hits a cloying sweetness. I guess this is due to the roasted and smokey flavors.

Mouthfeel/ Drinkability: The beer is a bit lighter than full bodied. The beer is lightly carbonated. The beer has a bit of buttery creamyness to the mouth. The beer never becomes cloyingly sweet. I would have liked this beer to be a bit thicker on the mouthfeel. The beer is a very drinkable malt bomb. I wish the cost of this was a bit cheaper because it would be a regular in my beer line up. (1,354 characters)

Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 336 ratings.