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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

474 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 474
Reviews: 327
rAvg: 4.12
pDev: 10.92%
Wants: 47
Gots: 22 | FT: 2
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001)
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Photo of morimech
3.83/5  rDev -7%

Stark-Porter 2006 Vintage with a best by date of January 2016.

Very dark brown that appears black in the glass. One inch of head forms but quickly settles to a thin cap. Moderate amount of spotty lacing is left on the glass.

Has that European lager aroma going on. As the beer opens up there comes some added complexity. Subtle hints of chocolate, dark malt, coffee, and the slightest touch of cherries.

The taste is a little more impressive. Slightly bitter chocolate, a little roasted malt, and a faint fruitiness melds nicely into a good flavor. There is also some earthiness. Not as bigged flavored as American brewers intrepertation of the style but more of a traditional beer. I am also surprised by the decade long aging ability. I cannot see aging helping this beer at all.

The body is not very large. In fact it feels a bit watery. Considering the low ABV, I am not that surprised. Just enough carbonation to give some life to the beer.

As I worked my way through the bottle, I came to appreciate the beer more. Not my favorite Baltic Porter but nice considering its historic significance.

morimech, Jan 16, 2011
Photo of merlin48
3.83/5  rDev -7%

2001 vintage with "best before 2010" on label. Pours an opaque, almost pitch black with a tan head that quickly drops into patchy and collar lacing. Aroma of burnt coffee, smoke, licorice, and a hint of chocolate. Mouthfeel is medium bodied, creamy, and has a mild peppery bite. Taste is similar to the nose, with burnt coffee, smokiness, licorice, and spicy, dry, bittering hops. Very drinkable, and a nice Porter, but nothing outstanding at this stage. I was surprised by the "best before" date being a several years down the road. This one will probably be much better in a couple of years.

merlin48, Feb 16, 2004
Photo of Vancer
4.18/5  rDev +1.5%

Best before May 2014 – holy crap! And I found it in a close-out bin for only $2 a 500ml. Only 2 bottles in there, damn.

Coal black pour, massive ivory head, good lacing – this brew is off on the right foot! Semi-stoutish aroma of chocolate, coffee, and the infamous sour ale.

Dry quaff works the above notes into the taste quite well. Just a small pop of chalkyness, and this processes a nice hop balance to qwell any cloying sweetness. Creamy like a milk stout, the 5 and a half % alcohol makes this close to a real session drinker.

Vancer, Jan 18, 2008
Photo of msubulldog25
4.2/5  rDev +1.9%

A 16.9 oz bottle, with a simple label almost all written in Swedish - årgång 2004. Not my first Swedish beer ever (thanks to a 1999 trip to Stockholm/Västerås for my brother's wedding, where plenty of Pripps Blå was consumed), but my first in a long time. Label reads: "Carnegie Porter was brewed for the first time in 1836 and tastes the same today as it did then."

A: Deep, dark brown with amber at the edges. Hardly any head; what there is appears stark white, surrounding the glass with a small ring and capping it with a star-shaped film. A little sticking lace, in thin bands.

S: Sweet & malty, to be expected of a Baltic Porter. Toasted grain and mild fruit. Pleasant, though a little subtle.

T: Malty sweetness with lots of spice and caramel, but with more bittering, grain huskiness, a little smoke. Slightly medicinal, citrus-y finish. Cocoa and darker chocolate in the finish. Dark roasted and some lactic sourness in the finish. Very tasty and nicely balanced.

M: Actively carbonated mouthfeel on a medium body. Grainy/sweet finish with some lingering spice. Infinitely smooth, lightly creamy, nice mouthfeel overall.

D: Very easy to drink, flavors aren't conducive to lots of drinking but good for a bottle. Worth a try, a good Baltic Porter.

msubulldog25, Jun 30, 2007
Photo of st9647v3
4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

st9647v3, Apr 30, 2012
Photo of MSandahl23
4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

MSandahl23, Sep 09, 2014
Photo of GCBrewingCo
3.25/5  rDev -21.1%

The beer poured into the glass translucent clear and yet pitch black with a frothy yet low tan head which coated the glass from top to bottom.

The aroma was strong chocolate with dark caramel and a licorice note thrown in for good measure. The aroma had some distinct roastiness.

The flavor was chocolate, but dry dark chocolate. Caramel was present, but it wasn't a sweet and malty contribution. The flavor was roasty and the bittering from the roasty grains was harsh. That bitter harshness was not well done at all.

The finish was dry with lasting bitter expresso and chocolate flavors that lasted just a bit too long into the aftertaste. The body was medium and well achieved. The bittering from the roasted grains really detracted from the enjoyment of this beer. The flavors and finish were harsh and not the stuff of world class beer.

16.9 ounce bottle. Best before April 2010 (April 2010...5 years and I certainly did not purchase this yesterday! Perhaps if I had it would have been better, or perhaps I should have waited till 2010!)

GCBrewingCo, Jun 21, 2005
Photo of StJamesGate
3.98/5  rDev -3.4%

2007 vintage.

Pours dark ruby with webs and carpets of off white lace. Where's the nose? Very light aroma of bark. Roasty malts up front with ash, cold coffee, and milk chocolate. Sweet middle. Mint and herbal hops close. Dry, light, smooth, round.

All about balance. Perhaps a challenge to what some other brewers are putting out as a Baltic, which is basically an Imperial Porter. But this is understated, subtle and oh so drinkable.

StJamesGate, Dec 28, 2009
Photo of jmdrpi
4.5/5  rDev +9.2%

jmdrpi, Nov 22, 2011
Photo of bigred89
4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

bigred89, Jan 05, 2014
Photo of Metalmonk
4.38/5  rDev +6.3%

I never think about Swedish beer, but I suppose if I did, I wouldn't think "porter". Let's see...

Poured a big head, though it didn't stay around, reducing to a thin layer and a more substantial tan crown. The black color is a beautiful thing, and bubbles show ample carbonation within the abyss.

Big juicy aroma, bursting with chocolate, coffee, and dark fruits, with just a little smoke giving a nice edge.

Flavor brings on some big, upfront flavors: coffee, caramel, chocolate, dates, cola, and a balancing citric sweetness in the finish. Slightly mineral aftertaste, and an earthy overall bitterness that makes sure this doesn't become too overbearing one way or another.

Mouthfeel is mildly sticky, giving some character to the medium body. Stickiness lets a variety of flavors ride out on the tongue, I still taste smoke, toffee and chocolate long after I've put the glass down.

This was immensely enjoyable. I look forward to hunting it down again. [I'm assuming "Argang 2004" on the bottle means it was brewed in 2004. Best Before date is May 2014]

Metalmonk, Jul 03, 2007
Photo of Bung
4.33/5  rDev +5.1%

Nearly black pour. Pretty roasty in the nose, coffee, burnt toast. Tastes of the same, with maybe some slight dark chocolate and molasses. Enough hops to even it out. Another very good Scandanavian porter, albeit a little different. Alcohol of a standard porter, flavors of a Baltic.

Bung, Jan 09, 2009
Photo of Boto
4.03/5  rDev -2.2%

500ml bottle: Mine was marked "ARGANG 2006", although I bought it recently. This one pours an inky very dark brown color. Mine had about no head on it whatsoever. A little bit of a sweeter aroma. Caramel and toffee, with just a faint roastiness in there also. A bit of sweetness in the taste. Coffee, chocolate, caramel, toffee and a hint of roastiness dominate the taste. A touch of slickness on the tongue. Nice!

Boto, Jun 21, 2011
Photo of Mitchster
4.85/5  rDev +17.7%

Pours out to a very dark brown with mahogany accents, near black. Forms a thin tan head with poor retention and sparse lacing despite a heavy handed pour. Carbonation is mild. Aroma is very nice, with suggestions of fruits, dates, prunes, chocolate, vanilla, coffee. Clean ferment. Mouthfeel is full and soft with a dense body and luxurious finish. Taste is wonderful...a capitulation of the aroma with the addition of tobacco, a suggestion of woody dryness towards the finish, and a brisk, clean twangy finish. There is a hint of metal towards the middle, but tends to disappear over time. There is a very nice roasted character with a hint of chalk in the mix. Alcohol is imperceptable, and there are absolutely no off-flavors. Bert Grant...eat your heart out. "Perfect Porter" my ass...

This is an amazing porter, besting many stouts. Very pleasantly surprised by this, and I would highly recommend it to my porter loving friends. The drinkability is amazing. I could easily put away 3 of these 17 oz bottles back without noticing. Complex, yet extremely satisfying without fatigue on the tastebuds. My last gulp was as good or better than the last. Wow.

Mitchster, Jan 27, 2004
Photo of bobsy
4.3/5  rDev +4.4%

Bottle from Tucker's Maltings. Drank in a caravan.

Pours a deep mahogany with a finger of tan head that soon dissipates to a thin and patchy film. Only a few spots of lace are left behind. The nose has an extremely enticing mix of chocolate, roasted malt and very strong and sweet dark fruit. Once the beer is tasted it reveals a large treacle character, which is more than likely the result if waves of raisin, chocolate and brown sugar melding together. This is accompanied by a light coffee roast and moderate bitterness. Smooth, almost creamy mouthfeel with a hint of alcohol in the tail. This beer drinks bigger than it is, which is a great feat for a lower ABV Baltic porter, and probably makes it one of the few that could be sessioned.

bobsy, Sep 08, 2009
Photo of threedaggers
3.75/5  rDev -9%

threedaggers, Feb 06, 2014
Photo of NJpadreFan
3.95/5  rDev -4.1%

D. Carnegie & Co. Argang 2001

My first Swedish beer!

appearance- Dark red/ black with a nice creamy tan head.

smell- Coffee!

taste- smooth coffee and a light chocolate flavor.

mouthfeel- a hint of alcohol and a slight bitterness.

overall- a nice porter that goes down well. Simple review- beer wasn't too complex.

NJpadreFan, Mar 01, 2004
Photo of kmpitz2
4.33/5  rDev +5.1%

1997 vintage.

Pours a deep brown to black color with no head over top. Not even a puff when the cap was popped. The nose is light fig, and soy sauce. A very nice combination. I'd like a little more force in there, but I can live with it. The flavor is nice. Mellowed chocolate covered fig, touched with a soy, but not biting, flavor. Almost a light smokeyness in there as well. No hint of oxidation. Incredibly tasty. The feel is a light moderate, with no carbonation. Overall, an incredibly drinkable brew. Easily a session beer for me. I'm sad this is the only one I have.

kmpitz2, Aug 11, 2005
Photo of aztraz
4/5  rDev -2.9%

aztraz, Apr 05, 2012
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3.75/5  rDev -9%

DrinkSlurm, Dec 28, 2013
Photo of dsa7783
4/5  rDev -2.9%

Single, 1 Pint, .9 fl oz bottle copped from Livingston for $4.99...
Pours a deep, dark, chocolate-brown color with a modest head that soon receded and left a copious amount of lacing around the head of the glass...
Thick, rich, creamy, malt aroma with obvious cocoa powder and chocolate nuances...
Taste was creamy and heavy on the malts, with a noticeable presence of dehydrated malts, dark latte, mocha, and bittersweet chocolate nuances...
Creamy, thick mouthfeel with a slightly bittersweet finish...
Certainly not the sweetest or best Baltic Porter I've sampled, but a solid serving nonetheless...
Easily drinkable, without any cloying factors and a good level of drinkability due to the modest 5.5% ABV...
Worth a try...

dsa7783, Apr 01, 2008
Photo of sulldaddy
4.18/5  rDev +1.5%

I am drinking a 1997 vintage bottle. Room temp and in a snifter. The beer pours a pitch black color with a small tan head foams up a little even with a vigorous pour. The head fades quickly to an edge layer and then disappears completely within 2 minutes.
Aroma is chocolate and caramel with a light pine hop scent surprisingly coming through. SMooth creamy texture and average body are present in this brew. Very light and gentle carbonation, almost non-existent. Flavor is chocolate and roasted malts with some brown sugar sweetness appearing. the beer is silky smooth and very easy to drink. Not sure about other years, but this one is quite tasty. try this year 1997 or others.

sulldaddy, Nov 17, 2004
Photo of rarbring
4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

This bottle is from 2009.

A very dark brown beer, almost black. The head is tan and melts down leaving quite some lace.

The smell is like stepping into a storage room full of dried plums, dates, figs and raisins. And somebody poured a cask of sherry over them and smashed the cask leaving some woody aromas as well.

The beer is rather light to drink, the taste is vinous and sweet with dried fruits. The hops are noticeable - probably due to being quite young. Hints of chocolate and coffee.

A creamy nice mouth-feel, a medium light carbonation.

A beer to drink quietly after dinner.

rarbring, Jan 24, 2010
Photo of wedge
3.78/5  rDev -8.3%

2010

Pitch black with a fluffy, beige head that reduces to a creamy ring around the edge of the glass. Some sediment left in the bottle. Interesting aroma - along with a fresh chocolate grain richness, there is a good amount of toffee, nuts, prune, and port. Dark malt and fruit flavor exhibiting some tartness and a dry roasty edge. Dark fruit, berries, and molasses. Not as rich as many Baltic Porters, but then it is unusually light in alcohol. Medium bodied and pretty clean, but seems to fall a little flat. I'd be interested to see what this would be like properly cellared for a couple more years.

wedge, Mar 11, 2012
Photo of CRJMellor
4.2/5  rDev +1.9%

Pours black with red highlights, thin light tan head with very minor lace.
Aroma of chocolate, brown sugar, roasted malt, some butterscotch, peat and a wheat bread note.
Flavor of heavy chocolate, some smoky roasted malt and a yeasty quality and very minor herbal bitterness.
Mouthfeel is semi-sweet moving to a very sweet and somewhat vinous middle that is cut short by a relatively tasteless bitterness.
Drinkability is very high. Probably defines the style as well as any beer.

CRJMellor, Apr 06, 2004
Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 474 ratings.